i completely agree to what u said earlier sammy. nat left...now she has to face the consequences. i AM gonna keep watching though, 'cause i'm an otalia "addict" , no matter how good or bad things turn out to be.we just need to take a deep breath.i still have hope for that new day in Springfield; hopefully a sunny otalia day whenever that is,as long as it happens ;)
first of all...thank you so much for posting. second of all....GL just broke my heart again. i can't believe i'm crying. the writers screwed me over again (and i'm sure i'm not the only one here who's feeling like that) if there's gonna be a nat/frank wedding....i won't have the strength to watch it. i want OTALIAAAA
I don't blame Olivia for any of what she's doing right now, I even have to tip my hat for it. She's completely in love with Natalia, but still she's offering Frank to help him to get Natalia. That's just hard. And, you know, Natalia walking up after 6 weeks telling Olivia "Well, I'm pregnant with my ex-fiance's baby, and I want to raise it with you, because I love you so much, and I'm a good mother, you're a good mother. It would be perfect"... It's like getting hit by a train.
She's just thinking that Natalia still needs someone to take care for her and the baby, and she's washing her hands off of this. Because... well, it's like she said, Natalia broke her heart and she won't let it happen again. Maybe I'm thinking too far ahead with this storyling, and I even think they are re-cycling storylines (the wedding), but I think that this must be hard for her, just like the wedding. Well, anyways, I'm hoping for Natalia and Olivia. Of course it's no excuse to use someone
No just backwards thinking. Divorce rate in America is over 50%. Marriage to a Man is always preferred over the fact that you're in love with someone of the same sex. It's just one part of the Puritan legacy. Rafe misses one thing. His father had a nice heart and was looking out for Olivia when he died. Liv. will not be looking out for anyone but Natalia and the family. I think she is a better mate for Natalia with her single mindedness about things than Gus was being the good guy.
btw. CC did confirm otalia is endgame and that's for sure. i'm just wonering how long we've got to wait until we get to see any kind of otalia lovin and with the rate tthis summer glacial pace is going.. .. ..
See, this is why we need Dinah, or Alex or someone. To make the comment, "Olivia, I didn't know you were so talented" when someone says that Natalia's having a baby.... *sigh* They've sooo screwed up this storyline on so many levels....
Estoy tan decepcionada despues de ver este capitulo. Espero que vuelvan juntas pronto porque ya no queda tanto tiempo. Yo tambien he leido que por esta semana no hay mas Otalia, pues esperar hasta la proxima semana.
LOL!! I thought something like that too when Marina put her hands on her dad's shoulder. I'm really tired of that puppyface, he is sooo damn clueless that is something that will never change.
Concordo plenamente, a Natália voltou igual, não sendo firme no que quer. Ela tem que botar o pé e dizer que ama a Olivia, gostem ou não. Que droga, falta pouco para acabar e nada muda. Besos Cíntia (Brasil)
perhaps daisy ran into jane and left emma with her.. or maybe a random friend ended up at company and helped emma finish the cheese pie and afterwards decided to have a sleepover. we can only wonder i suppose. just like we are left to do and figure out what dimples' tactics are for the biggest grand gesture there ever was to winning olivia's heart heart and trust back
yes she could've. She could have said: ''well, were are actually not back together and not getting married, but we have both decided for the babies sake that it will have both its parents in its life''. Seriously, how hard can that be?! She is outing no one, and the decision to marry Frank is not dependant on her being with Liv, she's not marrying him because she doesn't love him. Two separate things.
ok Nat, this is the reason you left, to figure things out, to make decisions. you're back now, so NOW you need to be strong in your choices and tell Marina no, there wont be a wedding between Frank and i...EVER...Liv is who i want to be with...PERIOD! on a sidenote, Blake had me crackin up...actin like she JUST found out the news along with everyone else, lol
exatamente, cara! Foi embora um mes enteiro pra pensar. Na segunda-feira tava decidida e em paz com a situação mas hoje parece q alguém comeu a lingua dela. Não fala, não é firme com o rafe..fica com esse rosto de indecisão e medo..paciencia! o pior é q eu adoro ela, mas hoje eu queria dar uma bofetada na cara pra ela acordar. como é q a escritora q teve 1 mes pra resolver esse desastre não pensou num roteiro bem escrito.a garota não tem nem frases enteiras! fica no meio sempre.porra
If Frank really is a good man then its time to man up and do what he knows deep down is the right thing, and that's helping get Otalia back on track. I don't think he'll push Nat, he knows she doesn't love him and never will. And Nat needs to take Rafe down a peg or 2. I'm hoping Doris will come out to Ashlee and she will help Rafe get over himself. Talk about manning up. Rafe thinks that's what he's doing, can't man up till you quit acting like a 2 year old throwing a temper tantrum!
What I don't understand is this following: 1. We have only FOUR weeks left (now 3). 2. The writers KNOW how pissed off the fans were about Dimples leaving the way she did and KNEW we were demanding the freaking superhero with her old backbone back w/grand gestures. 3. They've had 6 WEEKS to write a proper ending and PROPER lines for Nat. So WTF is this? Why is she not speaking up? why is she trailing off not finishing sentences? why isn't she being firm? Again..WTF is this??!!
They are going to have a happy ending. It's just that... well... today's episode was awful. LOL. Argh. Looking forward to next week, now that the 'big reveal' is out of the way. Fight for your woman, Natalia! She wants it.
Okay, I need an explanation... When two exes find out that they're having a baby together, does the family of them always assume that they are going to get married, even though they haven't been together for 4 or 5 months (in Natalia's case, that time range is legitimate)... Is this an american thing?
HAHA...Oh, I'm telling ya, I'm so mad but your comment just made me laugh for the first time since I saw this horrible episode!! Don't burn your poor gf's TV!! LOL
creo q los ecritores se la fumaron verde!!! este es el peor episodio q he visto en mi vida. Parece q raptaron a Natalia y la reemplazaron con este zombie! No habla, no dice nada! qué demonios le pasa??!! y lo peor es que ella es mi favorita de las dos..no entiendo y estoy a punto de arrancarme el pelo de la cabeza...tan decepcionada...y olivia igual..q se deje de martirizar diciéndole eso a frank...q ostia es todo esto!!
ugh!! okay one more time (make that several) #SMACKRAFE #SMACKRAFE #SMACKRAFE and as for dimples.. oh my fkn gawd..we're running out of time and patience.. can you please stop with the whole --i think i'll just put on a smile and hide behind my dimples'-- charade just so you could delay splainin' / professing to everyone your love for olivia even more. you gotta work on this shit a tad bit faster ms. freakin' superhero
Tools??!!! The freaking HOME DEPOT in that case...the whole lot!!! Everyone is a major idiot, loser in this episode! What oh what have they done to the characters I love and my beautiful Otalia?? WHAT IS THIS???????
U are right. He was an amazing friend and a gentleman. He's the only one I loved today.
i completely agree to what u said earlier sammy. nat left...now she has to face the consequences.
i AM gonna keep watching though, 'cause i'm an otalia "addict" , no matter how good or bad things turn out to be.we just need to take a deep breath.i still have hope for that new day in Springfield; hopefully a sunny otalia day whenever that is,as long as it happens ;)
first of all...thank you so much for posting.
second of all....GL just broke my heart again. i can't believe i'm crying. the writers screwed me over again (and i'm sure i'm not the only one here who's feeling like that)
if there's gonna be a nat/frank wedding....i won't have the strength to watch it. i want OTALIAAAA
I don't blame Olivia for any of what she's doing right now, I even have to tip my hat for it. She's completely in love with Natalia, but still she's offering Frank to help him to get Natalia. That's just hard. And, you know, Natalia walking up after 6 weeks telling Olivia "Well, I'm pregnant with my ex-fiance's baby, and I want to raise it with you, because I love you so much, and I'm a good mother, you're a good mother. It would be perfect"... It's like getting hit by a train.
She's just thinking that Natalia still needs someone to take care for her and the baby, and she's washing her hands off of this. Because... well, it's like she said, Natalia broke her heart and she won't let it happen again.
Maybe I'm thinking too far ahead with this storyling, and I even think they are re-cycling storylines (the wedding), but I think that this must be hard for her, just like the wedding.
Well, anyways, I'm hoping for Natalia and Olivia. Of course it's no excuse to use someone
natalia lucha por lo que quieres no te dejes llevar mas por lo que dice nadie busca a olivia no le den mas largo conooooooo
No just backwards thinking. Divorce rate in America is over 50%. Marriage to a Man is always preferred over the fact that you're in love with someone of the same sex. It's just one part of the Puritan legacy. Rafe misses one thing. His father had a nice heart and was looking out for Olivia when he died. Liv. will not be looking out for anyone but Natalia and the family. I think she is a better mate for Natalia with her single mindedness about things than Gus was being the good guy.
btw. CC did confirm otalia is endgame and that's for sure.
i'm just wonering how long we've got to wait until we get to see any kind of otalia lovin and with the rate tthis summer glacial pace is going.. .. ..
See, this is why we need Dinah, or Alex or someone. To make the comment, "Olivia, I didn't know you were so talented" when someone says that Natalia's having a baby.... *sigh* They've sooo screwed up this storyline on so many levels....
ok does Frank even know how to knock im just sayin
Estoy tan decepcionada despues de ver este capitulo. Espero que vuelvan juntas pronto porque ya no queda tanto tiempo. Yo tambien he leido que por esta semana no hay mas Otalia, pues esperar hasta la proxima semana.
LOL!! I thought something like that too when Marina put her hands on her dad's shoulder. I'm really tired of that puppyface, he is sooo damn clueless that is something that will never change.
Concordo plenamente, a Natália voltou igual, não sendo firme no que quer. Ela tem que botar o pé e dizer que ama a Olivia, gostem ou não. Que droga, falta pouco para acabar e nada muda. Besos Cíntia (Brasil)
this episode has been erased from my brain forever.
perhaps daisy ran into jane and left emma with her.. or maybe a random friend ended up at company and helped emma finish the cheese pie and afterwards decided to have a sleepover. we can only wonder i suppose.
just like we are left to do and figure out what dimples' tactics are for the biggest grand gesture there ever was to winning olivia's heart heart and trust back
marina seemed worried with natalia's response. I hope she realized natalia doesn't want a wedding.
yes she could've. She could have said: ''well, were are actually not back together and not getting married, but we have both decided for the babies sake that it will have both its parents in its life''.
Seriously, how hard can that be?! She is outing no one, and the decision to marry Frank is not dependant on her being with Liv, she's not marrying him because she doesn't love him. Two separate things.
ok Nat, this is the reason you left, to figure things out, to make decisions. you're back now, so NOW you need to be strong in your choices and tell Marina no, there wont be a wedding between Frank and i...EVER...Liv is who i want to be with...PERIOD!
on a sidenote, Blake had me crackin up...actin like she JUST found out the news along with everyone else, lol
damn....now you got me thinking about that grand gesture too LoL i wonder....
no otalia tomorrow? is that true? :(
I'm not going through this SHIT again!!
exatamente, cara! Foi embora um mes enteiro pra pensar. Na segunda-feira tava decidida e em paz com a situação mas hoje parece q alguém comeu a lingua dela. Não fala, não é firme com o rafe..fica com esse rosto de indecisão e medo..paciencia! o pior é q eu adoro ela, mas hoje eu queria dar uma bofetada na cara pra ela acordar. como é q a escritora q teve 1 mes pra resolver esse desastre não pensou num roteiro bem escrito.a garota não tem nem frases enteiras! fica no meio sempre.porra
rafe is so hurtful. natalia needs to stop crying and discipline him.
Ok, imma throw my computer out the window...WTF is wrong with natalia..''we haven't planned anything' WHAT:::WHAT::WHAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If Frank really is a good man then its time to man up and do what he knows deep down is the right thing, and that's helping get Otalia back on track. I don't think he'll push Nat, he knows she doesn't love him and never will. And Nat needs to take Rafe down a peg or 2. I'm hoping Doris will come out to Ashlee and she will help Rafe get over himself. Talk about manning up. Rafe thinks that's what he's doing, can't man up till you quit acting like a 2 year old throwing a temper tantrum!
i would have pushed him off that bridge
What I don't understand is this following:
1. We have only FOUR weeks left (now 3).
2. The writers KNOW how pissed off the fans were about Dimples leaving the way she did and KNEW we were demanding the freaking superhero with her old backbone back w/grand gestures.
3. They've had 6 WEEKS to write a proper ending and PROPER lines for Nat.
So WTF is this? Why is she not speaking up? why is she trailing off not finishing sentences? why isn't she being firm? Again..WTF is this??!!
Agreed, except for Josh. He was pretty cool.
wait how does he have beer isn't he 19.
at this point I thought that Frank was still in love with Natalia?!?....
They are going to have a happy ending.
It's just that... well... today's episode was awful. LOL.
Argh. Looking forward to next week, now that the 'big reveal' is out of the way.
Fight for your woman, Natalia! She wants it.
Okay, I need an explanation... When two exes find out that they're having a baby together, does the family of them always assume that they are going to get married, even though they haven't been together for 4 or 5 months (in Natalia's case, that time range is legitimate)... Is this an american thing?
OMFG!!!! Rafe is such a... grrrrrrrrr!!!!
DEJA VU?
HAHA...Oh, I'm telling ya, I'm so mad but your comment just made me laugh for the first time since I saw this horrible episode!! Don't burn your poor gf's TV!! LOL
creo q los ecritores se la fumaron verde!!! este es el peor episodio q he visto en mi vida. Parece q raptaron a Natalia y la reemplazaron con este zombie! No habla, no dice nada! qué demonios le pasa??!! y lo peor es que ella es mi favorita de las dos..no entiendo y estoy a punto de arrancarme el pelo de la cabeza...tan decepcionada...y olivia igual..q se deje de martirizar diciéndole eso a frank...q ostia es todo esto!!
ugh!! okay one more time (make that several) #SMACKRAFE #SMACKRAFE #SMACKRAFE
and as for dimples.. oh my fkn gawd..we're running out of time and patience.. can you please stop with the whole --i think i'll just put on a smile and hide behind my dimples'-- charade just so you could delay splainin' / professing to everyone your love for olivia even more. you gotta work on this shit a tad bit faster ms. freakin' superhero
Tools??!!! The freaking HOME DEPOT in that case...the whole lot!!! Everyone is a major idiot, loser in this episode!
What oh what have they done to the characters I love and my beautiful Otalia?? WHAT IS THIS???????
ew....hairsniff...