A very important turning point of the history.If the Russians won,the war would be over for Germany before 1915.The battle of Tannenberg is the perfect example of how a small but trained army,lead by excellent commanders,could win against a biggest ennemy.
German warfare, it seems, stresses quick reaction, initiative and mobile aggressiveness. In WW1 the power of the machinegun stopped maneuver warfare in the west, but motorized infantry, tanks and airpower made such strategies available again in 1940.
Arguably the very last Napoleonic style battle in history. High level manoeuvring and great environments at the operational level, with troops in somewhat lines formations.
Two other interesting trivium. - The the Russians were sending all of their radio traffic completely unencrypted, the Germans were reading it all and following their movements exactly. - The battle actually took place closest to the town of Allenstein, but the German high command, on the recommendation of Hindenberg/Ludendorff/Hoffman, called at the Battle of Tannenberg as a reference to revenge for a medieval defeat the Teutonics had suffered, although ironically this didn't involve the Russians at all (Grunwald, 1410).
@@jeremyheintz1479I've seen this comment a number of times here, but Wikipedia is pretty thin on his exact contribution to the plan. Any recommendations for more reading?
Two battles of Tannenberg - two different stories. First (1410) : Germans vs Polish-Lithuanian Second (1914): Germans vs Russians. There is absolutely no coincidence between these two battles. Germans consider the second battle as "great revenge" defeating Russians, who were'nt involved in the first battle at significant scale
Clashing the French and British in the Western Front and the Russians in the East is very mighty satisfying for-knowing the superior military of Germany 🇩🇪
samsanov didnt go into the woods by himself to commit suicide, he fled with his general staff and when he couldnt keep up due to his heart problems he killed himself.
@@longyu9336 It’s not disgraceful….it was a way to regain some honour. He accepted he made a monumental blunder and in shame and despair took his own life to show he takes responsibility. Becoming a prisoner would’ve been more humiliating. The Germans would have treated him well and he would’ve been exchanged for German prisoners or most likely kept under house arrest in Germany. He had a relatively easy way out if he just surrendered but he clearly was a proud man who would rather die than give up, and I respect that.
@jwlc88 its theme from tchaikovsky`s ``slave march`` composed for serbian-russian soldiers who fought against Turks. The actual melody is taken from serbian folk song.
July 31st - Germany issues a 12 hour ultimatum to Russia in response to their mobilisation. On the same day, the German ambassador in Paris asks France's opinion on an Eastern European war. August 1st - The ambassador is told that the government "will work for France's best intrests." At 3:55 that same afternoon, France authorizes the mobilisation of the army against Germany. August 3rd - Germany declares war on France.
The entene MilitayPakt between RepublikFrance&Zar RussiaImperium, where from Beginning on against German KaiserReich based gerichtet.. The EnteneCordiale France ZarRussia and completly with England, makes the war for the GermanKaisereich to an not bad not kalkulierbar Adventure.. The war, where with this bad miltarys views for the GermanKaisereich, not to win.. The german Oberste HeeresletungOHL(Gerneralstab), ordner commanded short beginning from the Marnebattle, two corps on the Eastprussian Front, to fulled of the Trups in the battle aigainst the two grand russian armees.. This weak the german armees on the westernfront decisions, with the maining results, the losing the grand Marnebattle.. And so on the hole (gesamter) War..
Wrong numbers at 4:06. 30000 not 300000 killed or wounded. 30000 escaped. 90000 taken prisoners. Corps organisation in numbers were in all WWI armies the same. One regiment a 4000 men, two regiments form one brigade. Two brigades form one division. Two divisions form one Corps. Samsonovs second army consisted of 5 army Corps, that were around 150000 unsupplied and already starving men. VI Corps, I Corps and XXIII Corps lost around one division each, XIII Corps and XV Corps hardly anybody escaped. Big victory but not 300000 KIA, one tenth of that.
high command of germany was always best in world. german military was like a takt in a machine, they organized it along the cycle and then it was a machine system.. they used the cycling system of magnatism and the normal regulation. it was calculated whey they started and ended, they used a machanic system.
BS The German high command was as incompetent as any other. All of the European Generals had their heads back in the 19th century with ideas of glory and fortunes. All were full of hubris and overconfidence. Militarisation was one of the causes of WW1. The Germans in particularly over promised and under delivered - they gambled and the German nation paid the price.
You win a battle with good tactics and well-trained people. The Germans have shown that they know how to win. War in general sucks. That's why there should be no more war between Germany and Russia. Only we Germans must never forget who we are. And what our ancestors did and sacrificed for us.
Yeah, they technically did mobilise, if you can even call that mobilisation. Fact of the matter is, the Tsar stalled until France was involved. It was only when France was in the war that the Tsar's generals finally persuaded him to attack the Germans. Until then, he held back his armies and was in constant correspondence with the Kaiser, his cousin.
1:34 these coloured pictures are so interesting, i always thought that hindenburg's uniform was dark green when i saw the black-white pictures, but it actually was blue and red!!
This was before the front lines stabilised and the war of attrition started. So it's unsurprising that a decisive manoeuvering victory could be scored. The First Battle of the Marne was another decisive battle taking place on the Western Front not much later than this.
Your mobilisation against us (declared in the middle of the afternoon) was an act of war. Luxemburg was invaded on the 2nd, and even so, there was no resistance. The Joncherey incident is an isolated thing, occuring right on what was then the German border in a time of war.
Germany did not start WW1. It was orchestrated by the alliance system created by King Edward VII to encircle Germany England felt threatened by the rise of German military power, so, it was in the best interest of England to create a war in which Germany would be destroyed and a British balance of power would be restored
People will endlessly debate the causes of WW1 until the end of history. For sure Britain was uncomfortable with German ambitions to create a navy to match The Royal Navy and Germany's increasing interest in building colonies in Africa and Asia of its own, but your take on this is simplistic and one dimensional. It ignores so many other issues that fed into what happened in 1914. Not least the tensions between Russia and Germany and France and Germany due to German support of Austro Hungary and the Franco Prussian war of 1871.
In hindsight, would it not have been a good idea for the Russians in the South to cover its flanks with scout forces? Also, instead of committing suicide and leave his army alone, Samsonov could have retreated somewhat.
Samsonov had just had his entire army blindsided by a numerically inferior foe and at least 300,000 of his soldiers were slaughtered or taken prisoner. I don't think it's entirely unreasonable for him to have broken down and decided to off himself.
When you've just lost an army, how would you explain to the tsar? What face would you show to your countrymen, and even to your own family? Humiliation is a serious thing.
What was the name of the narrator? I could swear I recognize his voice from the British series hosted by Peter Ustinov, "The Mighty Continent". Childhood nostalgia for an age of nostalgia. Btw. WRONG FRIGGING TUNE.
August 1st we weren't even in France. By August 1st we weren't even in Belgien or Luxemburg yet. -At Joncherey, that skirmish between the two officers took place on August 2nd, 1914. -Did not find any evidence regarding the Suarce incident, but you didn't even provide a date so it could have happened during the invasion. -No evidence on this either, and again, no date. Uhlan patrols are kinda hard to achieve when you haven't even invaded the country in question yet. Your move.
Hoo boy, that canard is sure being passed around these days. While it's true that a lot of Americans had long overestimated America's contribution to the War, lately people are getting silly in pretending that it was insignificant. It wasn't. The Germans sure as hell knew that in 1918. It's particularly tragic and dishonorable to see Americans with no idea what the Doughboys accomplished. Maybe the Centennial will inspire some education.
It wasn’t any American virtue or quality in its soldiers that turned the tide, it was the sheer manpower and supplies America could bring to the field. American troops were worse than their more experienced French British and German counterparts, but still 250,000 men a month bolstering the entente lines is a huge contribution. Also the food, guns, ammo, trucks and money the US could muster was very important. Americans have a romantic notion that their extra cool badass soldiers were superior and turned the tide, this isn’t the case, they were just more men to throw into the war, and quantity had a huge quality of its own.
@@rhysnichols8608 Well, no. I didn't assert any of the things you're refuting here. In fact I point out that many Americans have long overestimated the contribution to the war and done the normal nationalistic thing of seeing our soldiers as particularly glorious. But you're just putting a bunch of stink on it and overlooking a lot of what actually happened. Yes, it was primarily American economic power translated to war that turned the tide of both world wars. And if not for just the expectation of America coming into the war, the French army, facing mutinies, may have collapsed. The Brits likely would have been open to negotiations in '17 because they knew there wasn't the manpower to face the million or so troops the Germans were freeing up from the Eastern front with the collapse of Russia. And while I said nothing about especially "cool badass soldiers" you have done the fashionable thing of crapping on them as inferior. Yeah, of course they came in green just as previous waves of European soldiers. But they were also thrown in much more aggressively at a time when most formations had become expert primarily in trying to stay alive. It was jarring in its own way. And as the months went on they, like the European armies that had been in the line for years, learned the ropes and became much more efficient and professional.
German soldiers were outnumbered and won the battle. And even with far fewer casualties than the Russians. It was a magnificent victory for the Germans. And we must never forget this victory. Our German soldiers at that time had sacrificed a lot. And they were heroes.
"which wanted to save the peace" If they really wanted peace (which is preposterous) they wouldn't have gotten involved at all, since there was no reason for them to in the first place. It was a war between Österreich-Ungarn and Srbija. It is doubtful that Germany and Russia would have fought, considering the Tsar really did not want to fight and the Kaiser was rather indifferent. It was only France's official involvement that finally pushed Russia to war.
Brilliant explanation of this battle for civilians. The German victory became possible because the orders from Samsonovs headquarter and other communications with Rennenkampfs army were not decoded but send in pure Russian language, an incredible mistake.
I'm reading Solshenitzyn's August 1914 right now and there is no mention here of the Corps commander Artamonov who unwisely ordered a retreat without any knowledge of the fighting on the First Army's left wing. This, according to Solshenitsyn, was on of the biggest factors that led to the encirclement of First Army. I googled Leonid Artamonov and found nothing. Wikipedia has some nonsense about some of his attache´ work in Ethiopia in 1895 but not a word about his retreat. Wierd, huh?
Whether we like it or not, the german generals were the best ever! They were in hands of mad statesmen who sent them to fight against absolutely evryone...That was the problem!
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You call Pan-Germanism aggressive? Well, for one thing, the basis of that ideology we got from you, the development of nationalism that arose during the French Revolution. Also, what's wrong with uniting all Germans together under one banner? Isn't France trying to do the same thing by making French the sole language of the Republic and thus unifying all of France? Also, thank you for the "Greatest army" comment, I appreciated that.
+Max Sewell what a disaster. "World War 2" just in case anyone thought the first one was a bad idea. "Western Civilization" on the brink...even today...yet again. I hate posting on this stuff...but we're doing this all over again in my view so "time to brush up on this crap." and indeed this is a VERY good video.
andrew absolutely i was just dicking around in the first, but with Britain being divided on the continuation of the EU, overall them being their own nation is a terrible idea due to it being an island nation. Merely the Rimland theory proves that this is a terrible idea,
You were at least invited to the peace conference that dictated your fate, and were able to get off with favourable terms considering what you did. We weren't even allowed to participate, or give our input. You wrote up the Versailles treaty with us (specifically making a clause that blamed us exclusively) and when we refused some of your terms, especially the blame clause, you threatened to engage the rest of Germany proper (we already allowed you to have bridgeheads on the Rhein).
@gtptubac However all of those were done before the 20th century which is why I think he means it is so amazing. No country with modern ammunition has ever done half of what they have done. it is admirable if you do not realize it you are a child.
There is nothing wrong or unworthy in using one's strength to its best advantage and for Russians it's their superior manpower. Germany, with smaller population and fewer resources, had better trained and equipped armies because it must, but this itself does not make the German army superior to its Russian counterpart, and if you thinks so then you completely missed the point of this video, which focused on Germany's' often superior mobility and military leadership.
Слава Русскому Солдату! Который, в конце концов, в 45 году поставил на колени великую и могучию Германию! Не только числом, но и умением! Под Танненбергом победили немцы, но войну выиграли русские. Потому что война по сути дела длилась от 14 года по 45 год, с перерывом в 15-20 лет.
The British remained atop the naval spending, and made sure they stayed that way. By 1914, the naval race was effectively won by the UK as Germany's economy was already pushed to the limit from the naval acts ten years earlier. By 1914 Russia and France had expanded their land forces to the effect that overwhelming superiority would be a fact within just a few years. Look at Germany's geopolitical position and you might see a bit why they were a bit anxious.
Sources for this "fact", please. Also, if the French nation really had wanted to stay out of the war, they would have told the German ambassador that a Russo-German War would cause no conflict with the French and they would've stayed the hell out of our war. Instead, they got involved because they saw the EWK as a way to "take back" Elsaß, a stupid notion because Elsaß is German anyway, and has been since the 1st century, long before Karl der Große and any concept of a French state.
"perhaps the German social-democrats would have stopped the military establishment which wanted a war "Now or never". " I highly doubt that, just look at the support for war in the government offices of France and Britain. You were just as eager to fight as we were.
and yes only 5 divicions took part in the battle of the marne but it doesn't mean that the army was only that, as i know the british army had about 37 divicions that fought all the way over the battle of the somme...
I agreed that Germany had the more advanced military in many ways, the only thing I disagreed with in your original comment was your attitude towards the Russians. Their lack of training or equipment doesn't make them less worthy as soldiers (their war crimes do), personally, I have great respect for the resilience shown by the Russians in WWII.
I don’t know if you will see my comment but I’m reading your comments 14 years since they were made and I agree with your points. You are knowledgeable
@thebritish25 Probably. They might not have won, but if they went on the defensive against Germany and focused on fighting her (much weaker) allies, they might have survived the war without a horrifying dictatorship that would later destroy Eastern Europe.
Then what the hell were your various plans for attack that had been conceptualized by the French General Staff since 1898? It was France's hope to "regain" Elsaß-Lothringen, it is the focal point of why they got involved in the EWK. Also, France was much larger than Germany, even with our now lost eastern territories, and economically on the Continent France was only second to the Germans, which isn't as poor as you'd make it out to be.
de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schlacht_bei_Tannenberg_(1914) According to Wikipedia, the Germans had 38,000 fewer soldiers. And yet they were victorious against the Russians. And they had hardly any losses, unlike the Russians. This day is a monument to the strength of the German. Nevertheless, war sucks. And best there is no more war in the world. I also wish the Russians no more war. Just as little as we Germans. War brings more suffering than good. Peace of The World.
Germany has forsaken war for good. When remembering War, the motto is "Nie wieder", Never again. Russia is a deeply nationalist nation. Every May 9th their motto is basically "We can do it again". And now they are at it again.
@HeiligesReich2 No. The only partitions that should be brought against Poland are the ones that would bring back Pomerania, Silesia, and East Prussia. Belarus and Ukraine should be partitioned to give back what the Soviet Union stole from Poland in 1939.
Germany was not dominated by the military until late in the war when Hindenburg and Ludendorff deemed it necessary to win the war. Until then, the Kaiser made all decisions. It was the same in Russia, except Nikolai was weak and listened to any suggestion. And no, your militaries were not and are not subordinate to the people. Who decided to go to war in Britain and France? The people, or the government?
Germany didn't start the war against France, it was France the country that declared war to Germany after Germany had declared war to Russa... At the begining of the war both sides thought it was going to be a quick war... France wanted to use the brute force to win... but germans had a plan, that was to invade Belgium and take the french out from both sides... that plan forced the british to act and take part of the war...
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You didn't answer my question as to why Pan-Germanism is a bad thing. You just changed the subject to blathering about France suffering for supposedly supporting the Saupreisn.
@mad4669 Acually Germany did in World War 1 under the treaty of Brest-Listrovk 1918 they gained Poland Ukraine Belurus Baltic states and with a large amount of demilitraised land and finlands independance But they lost to the Allies and the treaty was undone.
A very important turning point of the history.If the Russians won,the war would be over for Germany before 1915.The battle of Tannenberg is the perfect example of how a small but trained army,lead by excellent commanders,could win against a biggest ennemy.
I wonder if he will awnser if i reply to this comment, 11 years after its inception?
@@trulsslemmeli8134 Fortunately I still have a notification, so yes.
@@quebecois12345 Damn
@@quebecois12345
Yooo!!! Op is alive after 11 years!
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Très vrai
A staff officer, named Max Hoffman, did the planning for the Battle of Tannenberg, yet, he received no credit for his brilliant plan.
This is like Hannibal with railroad tracks.
ur a fucking genius ur comment is golden
@@joemamaobama6863 a military genius!
No it's not
Very good encirclement! Superior strategy!
Superior training and equipment
German speed and tactics caught the Russian bear before he could get on his feet.
*"Deutsche Qualität"*
German warfare, it seems, stresses quick reaction, initiative and mobile aggressiveness. In WW1 the power of the machinegun stopped maneuver warfare in the west, but motorized infantry, tanks and airpower made such strategies available again in 1940.
@@longyu9336 Check out Operation Compass
Very good for Beginners to learn about Tannenberg. No judgment , only the most important facts.
2:45 GUTEN TAG
Danek!
@Mithrandir Same here lol
Anschluss time!
Haha yes! I laughed when that flag stretched out like that!
Arguably the very last Napoleonic style battle in history. High level manoeuvring and great environments at the operational level, with troops in somewhat lines formations.
Two other interesting trivium.
- The the Russians were sending all of their radio traffic completely unencrypted, the Germans were reading it all and following their movements exactly.
- The battle actually took place closest to the town of Allenstein, but the German high command, on the recommendation of Hindenberg/Ludendorff/Hoffman, called at the Battle of Tannenberg as a reference to revenge for a medieval defeat the Teutonics had suffered, although ironically this didn't involve the Russians at all (Grunwald, 1410).
Very informative video. I always wanted to know more into detail of that battle!
Ludendorff was a genius
@A10 go brtt brtt the guy gave everything he had.Maybe grief overwhelmed him but Treaty of Versaille itself propagates that narrative.
Its easy to look like a genius when your opponent acts like a deaf, dumb and blind idiot.
This was more Max Hoffman's victory. As chief of staff he was very knowledgeable about their Russian adversary.
@@jeremyheintz1479I've seen this comment a number of times here, but Wikipedia is pretty thin on his exact contribution to the plan. Any recommendations for more reading?
@@Laotzu.Goldbug no recommendations but years ago I read about it. He did the majority of initial planning
I’m watching this for homework.
No, its from World War I in Color, more infos in the video info ;)
Two battles of Tannenberg - two different stories.
First (1410) : Germans vs Polish-Lithuanian
Second (1914): Germans vs Russians.
There is absolutely no coincidence between these two battles. Germans consider the second battle as "great revenge" defeating Russians, who were'nt involved in the first battle at significant scale
For music of video; Tchaikovsky, Marche Slave. Not at all :)
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Clashing the French and British in the Western Front and the Russians in the East is very mighty satisfying for-knowing the superior military of Germany 🇩🇪
samsanov didnt go into the woods by himself to commit suicide, he fled with his general staff and when he couldnt keep up due to his heart problems he killed himself.
What a disgraceful way to die
@@longyu9336
It’s not disgraceful….it was a way to regain some honour. He accepted he made a monumental blunder and in shame and despair took his own life to show he takes responsibility. Becoming a prisoner would’ve been more humiliating. The Germans would have treated him well and he would’ve been exchanged for German prisoners or most likely kept under house arrest in Germany. He had a relatively easy way out if he just surrendered but he clearly was a proud man who would rather die than give up, and I respect that.
German General Francois' heavy artillery was also decisive in winning that victory.
@jwlc88 its theme from tchaikovsky`s ``slave march`` composed for serbian-russian soldiers who fought against Turks. The actual melody is taken from serbian folk song.
July 31st - Germany issues a 12 hour ultimatum to Russia in response to their mobilisation. On the same day, the German ambassador in Paris asks France's opinion on an Eastern European war.
August 1st - The ambassador is told that the government "will work for France's best intrests." At 3:55 that same afternoon, France authorizes the mobilisation of the army against Germany.
August 3rd - Germany declares war on France.
The entene MilitayPakt between RepublikFrance&Zar RussiaImperium, where from Beginning on against German KaiserReich based gerichtet.. The EnteneCordiale France ZarRussia and completly with England, makes the war for the GermanKaisereich to an not bad not kalkulierbar Adventure.. The war, where with this bad miltarys views for the GermanKaisereich, not to win.. The german Oberste HeeresletungOHL(Gerneralstab), ordner commanded short beginning from the Marnebattle, two corps on the Eastprussian Front, to fulled of the Trups in the battle aigainst the two grand russian armees.. This weak the german armees on the westernfront decisions, with the maining results, the losing the grand Marnebattle.. And so on the hole (gesamter) War..
Important information. France was inevitably going to get involved. The entente with Russia and their desire for revenge against Germany for 1870
Wrong numbers at 4:06. 30000 not 300000 killed or wounded. 30000 escaped. 90000 taken prisoners. Corps organisation in numbers were in all WWI armies the same. One regiment a 4000 men, two regiments form one brigade. Two brigades form one division. Two divisions form one Corps. Samsonovs second army consisted of 5 army Corps, that were around 150000 unsupplied and already starving men. VI Corps, I Corps and XXIII Corps lost around one division each, XIII Corps and XV Corps hardly anybody escaped. Big victory but not 300000 KIA, one tenth of that.
high command of germany was always best in world. german military was like a takt in a machine, they organized it along the cycle and then it was a machine system.. they used the cycling system of magnatism and the normal regulation. it was calculated whey they started and ended, they used a machanic system.
Why they loose then.... twice in the 2 Big Ones
@@jimbo5458 do you not realize how many countries they were fighting
BS The German high command was as incompetent as any other. All of the European Generals had their heads back in the 19th century with ideas of glory and fortunes. All were full of hubris and overconfidence. Militarisation was one of the causes of WW1. The Germans in particularly over promised and under delivered - they gambled and the German nation paid the price.
@@dladdict6285 Failure in diplomacy is still a failure in war.
@@jimbo5458 just look at what they were fighting. The triple of their own economy and 10x the man power
Ludendorff
Napoleon
Lelouch
Such good tacticians
Only 1 can successfully beat Russia
Heinricci
You win a battle with good tactics and well-trained people. The Germans have shown that they know how to win. War in general sucks. That's why there should be no more war between Germany and Russia. Only we Germans must never forget who we are. And what our ancestors did and sacrificed for us.
Germany got bled dry twice in 40 years. Suicidal homicide is shit war-making.
Yeah, they technically did mobilise, if you can even call that mobilisation.
Fact of the matter is, the Tsar stalled until France was involved. It was only when France was in the war that the Tsar's generals finally persuaded him to attack the Germans. Until then, he held back his armies and was in constant correspondence with the Kaiser, his cousin.
1:34 these coloured pictures are so interesting, i always thought that hindenburg's uniform was dark green when i saw the black-white pictures, but it actually was blue and red!!
who would believe that such a crucial battle would be fought so early in the war...
That tends to be how it is! Most decisive movements and battles happen early on.
This was before the front lines stabilised and the war of attrition started. So it's unsurprising that a decisive manoeuvering victory could be scored.
The First Battle of the Marne was another decisive battle taking place on the Western Front not much later than this.
Your mobilisation against us (declared in the middle of the afternoon) was an act of war.
Luxemburg was invaded on the 2nd, and even so, there was no resistance.
The Joncherey incident is an isolated thing, occuring right on what was then the German border in a time of war.
the narrator sounds like the default robot voice lol
also very good video, this is clearer than most i watched
Germany did not start WW1. It was orchestrated by the alliance system created by King Edward VII to encircle Germany England felt threatened by the rise of German military power, so, it was in the best interest of England to create a war in which Germany would be destroyed and a British balance of power would be restored
People will endlessly debate the causes of WW1 until the end of history. For sure Britain was uncomfortable with German ambitions to create a navy to match The Royal Navy and Germany's increasing interest in building colonies in Africa and Asia of its own, but your take on this is simplistic and one dimensional. It ignores so many other issues that fed into what happened in 1914. Not least the tensions between Russia and Germany and France and Germany due to German support of Austro Hungary and the Franco Prussian war of 1871.
@MrJZchicago
You forget the fact that WW1 wasn´t started by Germany. It begain in Sarajrwo and the Austro-Hungarian crisiis.
In hindsight, would it not have been a good idea for the Russians in the South to cover its flanks with scout forces? Also, instead of committing suicide and leave his army alone, Samsonov could have retreated somewhat.
Samsonov had just had his entire army blindsided by a numerically inferior foe and at least 300,000 of his soldiers were slaughtered or taken prisoner. I don't think it's entirely unreasonable for him to have broken down and decided to off himself.
When you've just lost an army, how would you explain to the tsar? What face would you show to your countrymen, and even to your own family? Humiliation is a serious thing.
The russian generals hatred for each other became their own death.
This shows that it is extremely important to co-operate in war.
great battle. it's like Cannae in the 20th century.
A good comparison, but the Romans, even though they were defeated, weren't nearly as incompetent as the Russian high command in the Great War.
Russian high command was not nearly as incompetent. Brusilov was arguably the best general of the war.
Can you explain?
What was the name of the narrator? I could swear I recognize his voice from the British series hosted by Peter Ustinov, "The Mighty Continent". Childhood nostalgia for an age of nostalgia.
Btw. WRONG FRIGGING TUNE.
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Great footage.
I'm reminded of seeing Soldat Schweik/Swejk as a kid.
(German or Austrian televison series)
Thanks for sharing.
are you sure this is from Wold War One in Colour? I've got these documentaires on dvd, but i've never seen this part.
*Germany draws her trap card*
August 1st we weren't even in France. By August 1st we weren't even in Belgien or Luxemburg yet.
-At Joncherey, that skirmish between the two officers took place on August 2nd, 1914.
-Did not find any evidence regarding the Suarce incident, but you didn't even provide a date so it could have happened during the invasion.
-No evidence on this either, and again, no date.
Uhlan patrols are kinda hard to achieve when you haven't even invaded the country in question yet.
Your move.
Hoo boy, that canard is sure being passed around these days. While it's true that a lot of Americans had long overestimated America's contribution to the War, lately people are getting silly in pretending that it was insignificant. It wasn't. The Germans sure as hell knew that in 1918.
It's particularly tragic and dishonorable to see Americans with no idea what the Doughboys accomplished. Maybe the Centennial will inspire some education.
I hate you
@@maximofenn8681 why?
It wasn’t any American virtue or quality in its soldiers that turned the tide, it was the sheer manpower and supplies America could bring to the field. American troops were worse than their more experienced French British and German counterparts, but still 250,000 men a month bolstering the entente lines is a huge contribution. Also the food, guns, ammo, trucks and money the US could muster was very important. Americans have a romantic notion that their extra cool badass soldiers were superior and turned the tide, this isn’t the case, they were just more men to throw into the war, and quantity had a huge quality of its own.
@@rhysnichols8608 Well, no. I didn't assert any of the things you're refuting here. In fact I point out that many Americans have long overestimated the contribution to the war and done the normal nationalistic thing of seeing our soldiers as particularly glorious. But you're just putting a bunch of stink on it and overlooking a lot of what actually happened. Yes, it was primarily American economic power translated to war that turned the tide of both world wars. And if not for just the expectation of America coming into the war, the French army, facing mutinies, may have collapsed. The Brits likely would have been open to negotiations in '17 because they knew there wasn't the manpower to face the million or so troops the Germans were freeing up from the Eastern front with the collapse of Russia.
And while I said nothing about especially "cool badass soldiers" you have done the fashionable thing of crapping on them as inferior.
Yeah, of course they came in green just as previous waves of European soldiers. But they were also thrown in much more aggressively at a time when most formations had become expert primarily in trying to stay alive. It was jarring in its own way. And as the months went on they, like the European armies that had been in the line for years, learned the ropes and became much more efficient and professional.
great video
German soldiers were outnumbered and won the battle. And even with far fewer casualties than the Russians. It was a magnificent victory for the Germans. And we must never forget this victory. Our German soldiers at that time had sacrificed a lot. And they were heroes.
Alte Kampftaktik der Römer. Am Hadrianswall haben Archäologen in Vindolanda entsprechende Schriftstücke gefunden...😊
"which wanted to save the peace"
If they really wanted peace (which is preposterous) they wouldn't have gotten involved at all, since there was no reason for them to in the first place. It was a war between Österreich-Ungarn and Srbija. It is doubtful that Germany and Russia would have fought, considering the Tsar really did not want to fight and the Kaiser was rather indifferent. It was only France's official involvement that finally pushed Russia to war.
are those spikey hats for ramming into the enemy, or for placing a loaf of bread and cheese so they can eat on the march?
or should I say sausage?
Brilliant explanation of this battle for civilians. The German victory became possible because the orders from Samsonovs headquarter and other communications with Rennenkampfs army were not decoded but send in pure Russian language, an incredible mistake.
I'm reading Solshenitzyn's August 1914 right now and there is no mention here of the Corps commander Artamonov who unwisely ordered a retreat without any knowledge of the fighting on the First Army's left wing. This, according to Solshenitsyn, was on of the biggest factors that led to the encirclement of First Army. I googled Leonid Artamonov and found nothing. Wikipedia has some nonsense about some of his attache´ work in Ethiopia in 1895 but not a word about his retreat. Wierd, huh?
Whether we like it or not, the german generals were the best ever! They were in hands of mad statesmen who sent them to fight against absolutely evryone...That was the problem!
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You call Pan-Germanism aggressive? Well, for one thing, the basis of that ideology we got from you, the development of nationalism that arose during the French Revolution.
Also, what's wrong with uniting all Germans together under one banner? Isn't France trying to do the same thing by making French the sole language of the Republic and thus unifying all of France?
Also, thank you for the "Greatest army" comment, I appreciated that.
When you use maneuver warfare and encirclement tactics of ww2 on a 1910s enemy
More like Battle of Cannae, 3rd century BC encirclement tactics
Tannenberg is best victory on the world!Really,serious and precious victory of ww1 German Verhrmact army
It wasn’t called the Wehrmacht until the 1930s
@@dladdict6285 Ya right.I didn't notice that,though i knew it. 😅
@gtptubac why would you include almosts? thats just stupid sorry because almosts can go on forever
spot on video and one of the first of many dumb moves by Russia, France and Britain.
Italy should have known better too...
Lol, but they gave us pizza and spaghetti.
+Max Sewell what a disaster.
"World War 2" just in case anyone thought the first one was a bad idea.
"Western Civilization" on the brink...even today...yet again.
I hate posting on this stuff...but we're doing this all over again in my view so "time to brush up on this crap." and indeed this is a VERY good video.
andrew absolutely i was just dicking around in the first, but with Britain being divided on the continuation of the EU, overall them being their own nation is a terrible idea due to it being an island nation. Merely the Rimland theory proves that this is a terrible idea,
Well, every country did some dumb moove in this war, except maybe for San Marino. That nation won the war
Is this a documentary series? And also what is the narrators name?
Kenneth Branagh, link is in the info box
You were at least invited to the peace conference that dictated your fate, and were able to get off with favourable terms considering what you did.
We weren't even allowed to participate, or give our input. You wrote up the Versailles treaty with us (specifically making a clause that blamed us exclusively) and when we refused some of your terms, especially the blame clause, you threatened to engage the rest of Germany proper (we already allowed you to have bridgeheads on the Rhein).
Tannenberg. A German master class
@gtptubac However all of those were done before the 20th century which is why I think he means it is so amazing. No country with modern ammunition has ever done half of what they have done. it is admirable if you do not realize it you are a child.
There is nothing wrong or unworthy in using one's strength to its best advantage and for Russians it's their superior manpower. Germany, with smaller population and fewer resources, had better trained and equipped armies because it must, but this itself does not make the German army superior to its Russian counterpart, and if you thinks so then you completely missed the point of this video, which focused on Germany's' often superior mobility and military leadership.
if you compare the frontlines at the start and of early 1917 then who would you think was the superior force?
how nice the vid is in color. i love the pickelhaube.
Слава Русскому Солдату! Который, в конце концов, в 45 году поставил на колени великую и могучию Германию! Не только числом, но и умением! Под Танненбергом победили немцы, но войну выиграли русские. Потому что война по сути дела длилась от 14 года по 45 год, с перерывом в 15-20 лет.
The germans won at tannenberg and later kicked the russkie out of the war. Ww2 was a different war
very good
It is from a bonus disk or something but I am not sure
The British remained atop the naval spending, and made sure they stayed that way. By 1914, the naval race was effectively won by the UK as Germany's economy was already pushed to the limit from the naval acts ten years earlier. By 1914 Russia and France had expanded their land forces to the effect that overwhelming superiority would be a fact within just a few years. Look at Germany's geopolitical position and you might see a bit why they were a bit anxious.
2018?
@ChristiaanL14, sorry my bad it was directed to @qtptubac.
*30.000 not 300.000 casualties, please be accurate with the facts
Sources for this "fact", please.
Also, if the French nation really had wanted to stay out of the war, they would have told the German ambassador that a Russo-German War would cause no conflict with the French and they would've stayed the hell out of our war. Instead, they got involved because they saw the EWK as a way to "take back" Elsaß, a stupid notion because Elsaß is German anyway, and has been since the 1st century, long before Karl der Große and any concept of a French state.
"perhaps the German social-democrats would have stopped the military establishment which wanted a war "Now or never". "
I highly doubt that, just look at the support for war in the government offices of France and Britain. You were just as eager to fight as we were.
and yes only 5 divicions took part in the battle of the marne but it doesn't mean that the army was only that, as i know the british army had about 37 divicions that fought all the way over the battle of the somme...
I agreed that Germany had the more advanced military in many ways, the only thing I disagreed with in your original comment was your attitude towards the Russians. Their lack of training or equipment doesn't make them less worthy as soldiers (their war crimes do), personally, I have great respect for the resilience shown by the Russians in WWII.
My Relatives were from Gombin which was in Eastern Prussia
@Camerameister I think it is a bogus argument. The Tsar had no intentions to wage wars, whereas Germany was clearly a militarist state.
And, incidentally, it's France's whining over Elsaß being "stolen" that turned what was a general Eastern European war in to an all-out European war.
I don’t know if you will see my comment but I’m reading your comments 14 years since they were made and I agree with your points. You are knowledgeable
What is the title of the score playing at the start?
What is this video from?
See the video description
@@Kettch23 I checked it out but it doesn't seem to be the same series
@@brutusvonmanhammer The clip is from episode 7: Tactics & Strategy
What show is this
@thebritish25
Probably. They might not have won, but if they went on the defensive against Germany and focused on fighting her (much weaker) allies, they might have survived the war without a horrifying dictatorship that would later destroy Eastern Europe.
You are right we can compare the russians and the germans to the turks and poles in the battles of Chocim and Vienna.
Then what the hell were your various plans for attack that had been conceptualized by the French General Staff since 1898? It was France's hope to "regain" Elsaß-Lothringen, it is the focal point of why they got involved in the EWK. Also, France was much larger than Germany, even with our now lost eastern territories, and economically on the Continent France was only second to the Germans, which isn't as poor as you'd make it out to be.
@jwlc88 Thank you! It sounded familiar. :)
de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schlacht_bei_Tannenberg_(1914) According to Wikipedia, the Germans had 38,000 fewer soldiers. And yet they were victorious against the Russians. And they had hardly any losses, unlike the Russians. This day is a monument to the strength of the German. Nevertheless, war sucks. And best there is no more war in the world. I also wish the Russians no more war. Just as little as we Germans. War brings more suffering than good. Peace of The World.
Germany has forsaken war for good. When remembering War, the motto is "Nie wieder", Never again.
Russia is a deeply nationalist nation. Every May 9th their motto is basically "We can do it again". And now they are at it again.
This has obviously been digitally colorized.
@HeiligesReich2
No. The only partitions that should be brought against Poland are the ones that would bring back Pomerania, Silesia, and East Prussia. Belarus and Ukraine should be partitioned to give back what the Soviet Union stole from Poland in 1939.
This vid is older than me 💀
Wonder what would have happened if Russia invaded with more than two armies?
They are scared of france losing
@Yourand
How do you figure, exactly?
Germany was not dominated by the military until late in the war when Hindenburg and Ludendorff deemed it necessary to win the war. Until then, the Kaiser made all decisions. It was the same in Russia, except Nikolai was weak and listened to any suggestion.
And no, your militaries were not and are not subordinate to the people. Who decided to go to war in Britain and France? The people, or the government?
@Wolfen443 no problem man =) peace.
Germany didn't start the war against France, it was France the country that declared war to Germany after Germany had declared war to Russa... At the begining of the war both sides thought it was going to be a quick war... France wanted to use the brute force to win... but germans had a plan, that was to invade Belgium and take the french out from both sides... that plan forced the british to act and take part of the war...
@UltraNationalist88 actually, very well said :)
he went into the woods alone? could he have not hid up a tree?
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@bodunchar They were purely ornamental, to make the troops look taller and thus demoralize the enemy.
You didn't answer my question as to why Pan-Germanism is a bad thing. You just changed the subject to blathering about France suffering for supposedly supporting the Saupreisn.
Indeed, i think he means the London treaty of 1839.
where did it happen help I have 30 minutes
@mad4669 Acually Germany did in World War 1 under the treaty of Brest-Listrovk 1918 they gained Poland Ukraine Belurus Baltic states and with a large amount of demilitraised land and finlands independance But they lost to the Allies and the treaty was undone.
@XxxSakura101 Germany actually had less chance of winning both World Wars then you'd think. In fact Germany was truly lost once they entered Russia.