I wouldn't doubt BSG is allowing this because, in the end, it's more money in their pockets from all the extra copies of the game being sold. Pestily did some math in a recent video talking about this video and said something like "even if they buy the cheapest version of the game that could easily be up to 100k a day in extra sales".
Not really. This is the equivalent of 4-5% of the game's playerbase being cheaters this is not an abnormal metric fo a popular game, to some extent. When CS:GO came out, it had a cheater population of around 9% and it hovered on that level for ~4 years, untill valve implemented overwatch, 2FA and prime, which led to the cheater population goung down to around 5%, but between prime members, the population of cheaters went all the way down to 1-2% Overall, tarkov has about 30% more cheaters than any regular FPS, while that could be chucked up to "dev team bad", i personally beleive it is more nuanced than that, tarkov is a game where cheating is actually profitable monetarily, thus cheaters try more and dedicate more attention towards hacking, rather than just selling it to script kiddies that rage hack for 2 days off of their mom's credit card and get banned. It's definetely something that should get worked on more, ideally the cheaters going down in the low 3-2% would be great, but yeah by no means is this some earth shattering insane metric.
@@Birdsickle i cheated for about 4 weeks straight this wipe got banned ab 3 weeks ago personally his 60% is low. Theres at least 1 in almost every raid id say at least like 85%
@@Birdsickle I don't mean to sound arrogant but based on what numbers are you going off of? The guy has hard numbers and explained his method and everything (granted he hasn't published the stats yet) on how he came about the 60% figure. To me it sounds like you are just trying to downplay how bad it really is. Keep in mind not everyone blatantly cheats, there could just as easily be more that are cheating and hide the fact much better than others.
not only do cheaters cheat on legit players, they team up with other cheaters so they wont get killed to kill other legit players , like you cant get more into the gutter
@@RuLeZ1988 reminds me of mw2 back in the day when at a certain point everyone had unlimited uav, 1 shot stopping power, ac130/chopper gunner guaranteed care packages, etc before they banned mod lobby hacks.
@@RuLeZ1988 It becomes an even playing field which clearly they don't like so they just quit lol and completed their mission of destroying the game. So they move to the next one like the parasites they are
hello fellow rat I too understand why a lot of players ignored me bc im new and they probably going after the more looted players maybe thats a stretch idk
@@shneef4127 I watch series, make food and do other stuff during that time. Then just enjoy the rest of the raid with like 4 people and dozens of player scavs. This wipe I use red flares every raid possible and do quests mostly unterrupted. Don't knock it until you try it.
@@arcticwulf5796 I have a full time job and still run around labs while having 20 mill and a full stash with multiple cases I think you’re just shit at the game
probably wont do shit knowing how incompetent they are, wasted so much time and resources to add lightkeeper and 95% of players will never see him and they removed usefull crafts for midgame quests and locked them behind him even tho he is late game and you have already completed the missions you need his crafts for when you unlock the crafts..
well they banned the account that cheated but didnt ban his main account, they copy pasted the same ol same ol as a response from this video of "we know its a problem and we are working hard to improve the anti cheat"
Seeing these hacks makes me think tarkov would make a good kinda special tournament game where a spectator can see and observe all the players kinda like they do with R6
@@Thawne1338 Are you slow? Are you brain dead? Try to think for a second, it even said it in the video, if there were kill cams or spectating available (after your whole team dies of course, after raid or something too so there is 0 chance of ghosting) then it would be easier to find out who is cheating, and more reports on the account = more cheaters banned. It also helps people to know whether they died legit or to a hacker.
I remember the encounter where many of us uninstalled Tarkov. We were playing shoreline, moving around the outside of the map, someone charged through the Resort, killed several players with grenade spam, and before they could have even looted a body that same person had run all the way to the map's swamp edge to headshot our lead man. We booked it, he chased us with what seemed like infinite stamina and omnipotence, through several sections of forest, over hills, through a village all the way to the coastline, where he finally caught up to our second guy and killed him. I was last, but took cover behind a berm. He had no line of sight to me, and despite my repositioning, he would put rounds directly on my location without me even peeking. This was back in 2019. Haven't gone back since. It's several times harder for me to even gain access to an auction house than it was in 2018-19. The only reason I played knowing cheating was rampant was because I could spend a few minutes on the auction house and make it back. It's a shame, the gunplay was honestly satisfying, and the game could've been so much better.
Allowing players to speed up their scav times and heal times by spending time spectating lobbies would be a super cool system. No rewards for reporting or anything, but only for time spent spectating so people don't spam report. Then there would be more eyes on players, making it harder to cheat and get away with it. Food for thought.
The most annoying thing about cheating is, If I can turn WH on for ever 3 seconds, that's so much crucial information that I can probably end up winning. Who knows how many people do this, in CS for example, if you can turn WH on for 3 seconds and see the setup, you can execute the round perfectly
u can have your mouse inject cheats into any pc that runs the game u want to cheat on, undetected. who knows how many tournament players actually won because of that. this whole online multiplayer gaming stuff is just a big fucking clown show at this point. dont even get me started on twitch. id bet my ass that 80% of all twitch streamers who play shooters cheat for financial gain.
I had a friend who wanted to quit so he said fuck it and bought cheats to get banned. He could see peoples KD and there was literally 1-5 people per raid with 10-20kd. He was able to see how many people actually cheat.
I was hiding at nighttime shoreline in a house, it was pitch black. and some random guy just walked up to my position after I was afk for almost 20mins. just knew where I was prone and 1 tapped me..
Every raid has atleast 1 cheater, its easy to test by hiding in random bushes or places no one would ever go and every raid they find you especially if you go in raid with something worth a bit of cash
That's false. First of all most cheaters are not this dumb. If every cheater looked for people in bushes, they'd get reported to infinity and get banned. Even in goat's video, it is obvious that cheaters try to hide it as much as possible, interracting with players the fewest times possible, just trying to soak up all loot without being fought or seen so they don't get reported. Also it's closer to 60% of raids having a cheater. so 1/1,8 raids has a cheater...on some servers...on some maps...if you're solo
@@Birdsickle That's not false. It's actually true. This was tested 4 years ago by a small Greek youtuber. He would hide in inconspicuous spots on multiple different maps (closets, big bushes, that sort of thing). He would test it by having absolutely nothing of value, and then he would take out 3+ bitcoin from his secure container and do the same thing. Whenever he took out his bitcoins from his secure container, it was like sharks drawn to blood. He only did a bit of testing, but from what he could 100% confirm, was that in 300 raids, 70% of them had at least one cheater. And he wouldn't say that every single time he got caught and died was by a cheater, he had more criteria than just being found and dying that had to be met. 4 years ago. 70% chance of AT LEAST 1 cheater. Multiple maps were tested. Multiple different server regions were tested. 300 raids. He also made mention of every single time he died to a definite cheater, they had a unique name. So he didn't run into ANY repeat offenders, unless they changed their in game name. Again, that's 210 raids out 300 that had 1 confirmed cheater. That's a massive problem. That's not a 4-5 percentile. We're talking well into the double digits here. And that's also excluding labs, you know, the map with the most confirmed cheaters, confirmed by cheaters themselves. An average of 4 cheaters are in every single labs raid, regardless of ToD and server region. That's straight up unhealthy for any game.
Yeah not true. Unless ur mad stacked cheaters ain't gonna rage on a dude in a bush in the middle of no where. Like yall got some weird ideas..... Also it's more like 80%+ of raids have a cheater not every single one but pretty close
@@Birdsickleother cheaters have stated that playing with cheats for years (larger sample size, better at recognizing other cheaters) it's really like at least 1 cheater in every raid for most maps.
@@Versace_sheets yes but not enough for him to care if he they cheat or not type of thing you know even me I don't play it much either, like taking the example of him playing OW way back in the days he would of care if someone cheated on his game but if I was a guy that would hop into OW and touch the game twice or 3 times a month than I would not care if someone cheated in my lobby once but seeing it all the time is a problem you know because I only play the game a bit.
@@crimsonshin7002 I mean Tarkov is high risk high return game. Every loss gear game, it punished hard so it normal to care that even if you do a few runs per month. It ruined your game fs.
It's almost as cringe as all the comments on Adin Rosses videos all saying some generic "You've come a long way Adin you've grown Tate would be proud" type shit.
whats really sad is its been this way for the past 2 years and even longer thats just when i discovered the "wiggle" it was the patch before lighthouse. I think the saddest thing is most of these people never get ban LOLOLOLOLOL I can first hand confirm.
I used to be a mod in minecraft, and I learned a lot about detecting cheaters and the cheats they use, This is really no different, Its literally like 1 in 5 or 1 in 10 people are cheaters, and this game is no different, That's why I stopped playing a lot of fps games, games like tarkov, hunt showdown, even some cs:go games all have cheaters very commonly, most people think its not cheating if its not complete aimbot, but there are so many ways to cheat that give you such an advantage in the game, its insane. x ray cheats, like the one in this video are the most common way to give yourself a huge advantage.
Absolutely. I stopped playing competitive pvp games a long time ago due to this, even 20 years ago when I was playing early versions of CS people were cheating. I'm more surprised lately by how many people are surprised at the number of cheaters in these games.
I played shooter games since I was a kid from 1.6 Era. I have probably put close to 10k hours in shooters. My aim got really good that I even competed in tournaments. I couldn't count how many times I have been called a hacker/cheater. I was suprised why, yes I was top 0.1 % of players in any shooter I took seriously but then I realized how many of "good" players actually cheated after there was mass banning waves in those games. I have quit shooters for the most for good 8 years.
crazy thing, this info is not new. there was an interview with a cheater like 2 years ago and even then, he said there was a cheater in almost every raid. im honestly surprised that people still take tarkov seriously. i guess the whole monopoly of the genre.
60% chance to have at least one. That's the key. The chance also increases depending what map you play. Labs averages 4 cheaters per raid. Yes, that's right - PER RAID. There is practically a 100% chance that there is at least 1 cheater per lab raid. Shoreline and Lighthouse have an 85% chance that there is AT LEAST 1 cheater in a raid. 4% of the player base isn't cheating; that number is far too low. I mean not too long ago, BSG bragged on social media that they banned 35% of their concurrent player base in a single ban-wave. That's slightly over 1/3 of the entire player base that was banned for cheating, IN A SINGLE BAN-WAVE. That's just absurd.
someone make a game where "cheating mechanics" and like seeing through walls are already part of the game so players are not incentivized to cheat and you can actually make a good product and game off of that
You have that in space tarkov(the cycle). There is a chance to roll a perk on your helmet while forging which gives you like a thermal hunter vision and you see people through walls up to 60m i think.
There was a Playstation game where you put on a visor with an energy bar that gave you walls, blacklight retribution. Pretty cool game, f2p, got shuttered after a few years.
The problem with that is then it makes it easier for a cheater to get away with it because you could hide behind the game mechanics and say it’s because of that. No matter what a game has there will always be someone cheating.
Man, I'm really curious what it's like in a reality where game cheaters never existed; would games be harder cuz the average skill level would need to be higher, or would it be even more dumbed down to compensate the trash players? or would there even be trash players if it was all truely equal without degen cheaters ruining everything? it's real interesting to think about, but it's also equally sad that it'll never be possible anymore
it would probably be about the same as it is now with less frustrating encounters where you appear to die to bullshit. Only for the reality to be a cheater that was gunning for you. The average skill would seemingly drop a little bit as the assistance of tools would be removed, taking away some of the "higher skill" players.
I don't feel like I ever see cheaters in tarkov, but maybe some of the really good players I've died to have been cheaters in reality. If cheaters didn't exist, the average skill level would drop, since a large amount of the best players would disappear leaving only the legit ones. Anyone who wasn't cheating would start performing better in comparison to before
If cheaters never existed we would most likely never had sick montage vids of 360 noscope and multikills in early CoD games... Also online games like Overwatch or CoD multiplayer would not be dead after release cuz people would enjoy playing at their rank trynna improve and game companies would had more money... we can still do that... all the game studios need are cheat hunters that will browse google every day and start taking down them cheat providers, sueing them and much more... then people would be scared to even develop cheats for said games if that ever happened... Overwatch had this team first 2 years before smurfs came into place and then they just gave up... even console cheating is easy nowdays thanks to gamepad emulators that will emulate your controller inputs and aim for you (for example Nadia)...
@@ChongiFishing they run around like scavs and raiders I think wirh pmc spawns and gear. It feels pretty good ingame for me but it is easier than normal tarkov of course.
I'm not sure if you've watched the actual video but in the original, the guy mentions how one distinct thing he remembers from doing the tests is how whenever someone would aim-lock onto his head he would die the first or second hit but he would continue to hear the bullets whizzing by as if the cheater was still locked on. This made him recall how many times he's heard the same sound in the past when he's died in "mysterious" ways and how it likely was a cheater every time.
I don't think BSG is encouraging cheating, I just think that they are have been very incompetent in handling it. Some of Nikita's responses today via reddit regarding security were fairly good ideas but they need to be implemented. It's in a bad state man.
@@soulserrated I understand what you're saying but losing the majority playerbase vs losing cheaters is substantial. Community is long term revenue, cheater repurchases are short term, and even then they have to get banned to begin with to repurchase. A more permanent solution other than Battle Eye needs to be implemented and his ideas/plans were good in theory.
@@maybecole community generates no revenue at all though. They've already bought the game, and Nikita for some reason refuses to add monetization into the game.
@@ForOne814 It has and continues to get new players, right now they are in the fun phase of handling spaghetti code, bug fixing, changing mechanics, working through anti-cheat, etc. No new foreseeable content until its changed. Gonna feel like a drought but must be done. I understand the repurchasing of accounts, but what happens when the vast majority of regular players leave? Cheaters playing against each other in a tiny population that gets no streamer support, no marketing, extremely bad rep. Etc. I don't think this is what they want in the long run, but have been neglecting it. A lot of these new actions taken are steps in the right direction until more immediate or permanent solutions are implemented, eg: Lawsuits, hardware banning, kernel level protections, among others listed in the thread.
@@maybecole Nikita doesn't care about this project, he created it by accident, he wanted just another generic DayZ-clone without zombies. He still does. He wants to turn this masterpiece of a concept into another open world post-Soviet survival game.
This is a good video but there are videos of people catching cheaters with the wiggle test from years ago. Kind of sad it’s still as big of an issue with the game today.
@@tanyathorvilson There was a video in particular of a European guy I remember from at least 3 years ago where a guy had a esp and was going around unarmed and wiggling at people through ceilings and like bathroom stalls He narrated over the top discussing the cheating problem. I've tried to find it for you but it's really difficult these days finding old videos on youtube. I'm pretty sure it was before the BattlEye implementation where the amount of cheaters was even worse back then. These days you have to be invited to buy a cheat and on top of that it is very expensive usually, but the average Tarkov player has EoD edition so unfortunately a lot of people don't mind paying that much to cheat as well.
@Guanjyn Thanks for looking. Either way a video like this one or that one hits harder than just hearing a steamer say that there's more cheaters than people realize. I'm the type that needs to see it to believe it.
games need to make a waver you have to sign before playing where if you are caught cheating they have the right to take your hands from you aka hammer to the hands.
If you didn't know the PUBG 2d Shake, you're late as fuck to the party. Most people moved from cheating in PUBG to Tarkov. And the PUBG Shake, is setting your aimline directly in the direction of the enemy pushing you, and shaking it left and right, in a "No." position. They always stopped, and turned around for the next team.
@@Ebb0Productions PUBG refused to fix the Chi Chongs having about 8-12 entire hack teams every match at high MMR, so yes. Use a basic 2d radar to assist with outsmarting them, beating them with the mosty blatant teleporting, instant bullet travel, pseudo-magic bullets bypassing the server detection, aimbot, server priority, pak editing to giant models, flying cars... So yes. We did.
guys help me , i suddenly had this key strapped to my fingers and hand, and everytime i get reminded of how i have no friends irl i automatically press the key . the key will type like this green emote in the chat , i dont know what to do somebody pls help me
I had days when I had a wall hacker every first and or second game of the day. Shoreline is especially bad. These guys are so fucking bad at times, you can literally toy with them.
@@sepehrrezaee5505 I finished the video, and it's not as bad as I thought from the title thankfully. I already knew Tarkov had a lot of cheaters, and I saw a similar video to this of a guy exposing cheaters in labs a couple years ago. It doesn't really bother me because I usually still manage to do well and have fun. But it really does make me sad to see these cheaters hanging around low level areas like customs just to ruin peoples day, and turning away new players. It's a real shame.
@💖 Fun-Sized Femboy 💖 As a new player this didn't turn me away at all because I have no frame of reference. I rat so hard not even cheaters can find and kill me.
@@Snack-Sized-Femboy Would've been really interesting if he went to the maps where cheaters were at the most like lighthouse and reserve to see how bad it actually can be instead of customs where its going to be a lot of lower level engagement
If the game tarkov dies or takes a hit in player count, that effects the tarkov streamers and their income. The reason all the dedicated tarkov streamers criticize this video is because they see this video as a threat.
Let me break this down for any of you that dont understand this concept. From a “player” perspective and for someone that loves the game, and enjoys the game. We want the “cheaters” to be removed immediately. However in a “business” world that's not how this works. Here is a simple business concept for you. You own a game, now you know 3-5 big sites have cheats for your game and that 20-40% of that player base is “cheaters” Now if you LET them cheat for a certain amount of “playtime” like LEVEL 20-40 or lets say 3-6 months. You as a game owner KNOW a cheater will see the “PROFIT” of buying the game AND the cheat. Because it lasted for a decent period of time. So take 100 cheaters. Now the game about 40$ so 40$ X 100 = 4.000 now do the bigger number, 10.000 X 40 = 40.000$ free profit. IF you THINK that EA or Steam or any BIG company can't hire someone to download, cheat, and make an anticheat against their “public” cheats. You have lost the reality of game businesses and how it works. This guy proved nothing, it has been like this in all games for over 15 years. And will continue to do so.
This is a fine business model when the anti cheat makes cheaters play only cheaters until ban, but I doubt the unbanned cheaters are being lobbied with only cheaters
"why bother leaning" its because its like a secret handshake, or a wink to each other right in front of people who are oblivious. When you're in a "secret group" like that, its fun to do. its a way to say "we're the same" in front of other people who are clueless of anything even going on, if that makes sense. Its a very common concept in modern conspiracies about secret societs, and sht like that. the hand over the eye, 33, etc.
He means leaning to peek a corner when you're cheating. You are literally stupid for misunderstanding. The guy on woods WAS cheating, but didn't wiggle, he leaned around the corner. X was asking ''why even bother leaning'' as in why bother sweating game mechanics if you're cheating.
For all people asking:
He met cheaters at minimum 60% of the times while doing 125 raids.
That is a fucking lot.
I wouldn't doubt BSG is allowing this because, in the end, it's more money in their pockets from all the extra copies of the game being sold. Pestily did some math in a recent video talking about this video and said something like "even if they buy the cheapest version of the game that could easily be up to 100k a day in extra sales".
Yeah that means by goats numbers that 4% of players cheat in tarkov
Not really. This is the equivalent of 4-5% of the game's playerbase being cheaters
this is not an abnormal metric fo a popular game, to some extent. When CS:GO came out, it had a cheater population of around 9% and it hovered on that level for ~4 years, untill valve implemented overwatch, 2FA and prime, which led to the cheater population goung down to around 5%, but between prime members, the population of cheaters went all the way down to 1-2%
Overall, tarkov has about 30% more cheaters than any regular FPS, while that could be chucked up to "dev team bad", i personally beleive it is more nuanced than that, tarkov is a game where cheating is actually profitable monetarily, thus cheaters try more and dedicate more attention towards hacking, rather than just selling it to script kiddies that rage hack for 2 days off of their mom's credit card and get banned.
It's definetely something that should get worked on more, ideally the cheaters going down in the low 3-2% would be great, but yeah by no means is this some earth shattering insane metric.
@@Birdsickle i cheated for about 4 weeks straight this wipe got banned ab 3 weeks ago personally his 60% is low. Theres at least 1 in almost every raid id say at least like 85%
@@Birdsickle I don't mean to sound arrogant but based on what numbers are you going off of? The guy has hard numbers and explained his method and everything (granted he hasn't published the stats yet) on how he came about the 60% figure. To me it sounds like you are just trying to downplay how bad it really is. Keep in mind not everyone blatantly cheats, there could just as easily be more that are cheating and hide the fact much better than others.
not only do cheaters cheat on legit players, they team up with other cheaters so they wont get killed to kill other legit players , like you cant get more into the gutter
Until the time when only cheaters are left, and cheaters fight against cheaters. Congratulations, where is now the advantage of cheating?
@@RuLeZ1988 reminds me of mw2 back in the day when at a certain point everyone had unlimited uav, 1 shot stopping power, ac130/chopper gunner guaranteed care packages, etc before they banned mod lobby hacks.
@@RuLeZ1988 It becomes an even playing field which clearly they don't like so they just quit lol and completed their mission of destroying the game. So they move to the next one like the parasites they are
It could get worse. You could have voted for Biden.
sounds like my government saj
Explains how people find me hiding in obscure locations in labs when I have done literally nothing for 20 minutes.
Ah yes the rat strat
hello fellow rat I too understand why a lot of players ignored me bc im new and they probably going after the more looted players maybe thats a stretch idk
I’d rather die to a cheater running around labs then sit in a corner for 20 minutes to get one tapped stop crabbing on labs
@@shneef4127 I watch series, make food and do other stuff during that time. Then just enjoy the rest of the raid with like 4 people and dozens of player scavs. This wipe I use red flares every raid possible and do quests mostly unterrupted.
Don't knock it until you try it.
@@arcticwulf5796 I have a full time job and still run around labs while having 20 mill and a full stash with multiple cases I think you’re just shit at the game
As a tarkov player I am suprised it is now being viewed by this many channels, it is awesome. I cant wait to see what BSG does after this.
probably wont do shit knowing how incompetent they are, wasted so much time and resources to add lightkeeper and 95% of players will never see him and they removed usefull crafts for midgame quests and locked them behind him even tho he is late game and you have already completed the missions you need his crafts for when you unlock the crafts..
Well they already banned the guy who made the video lmao.
well they banned the account that cheated but didnt ban his main account, they copy pasted the same ol same ol as a response from this video of "we know its a problem and we are working hard to improve the anti cheat"
Their will always be cheaters in multiplayer PvP games. No matter how the developers patch it, people will make their cheats better
@LiL Bruh it's almost like the game is still in beta and they're testing things
Technically, every raid he went into had at least 1 cheater.
Good one lol not false
That's mind-blowing, especially the wiggle 💀
THANK YOU XQC FOR THE EXPOSURE.. BIG RESPECT FROM THE EFT COMMUNITY!
who df are you 💀
@@himsirantuyabluatunmansda3623 a person who is a part of the EFT community lol.
shoutout to the homies from EFT community! im the neighbor from the EDP community
@@AlhazerdVivi 😦
Xqc should show some black history month exposure #BLM
Seeing these hacks makes me think tarkov would make a good kinda special tournament game where a spectator can see and observe all the players kinda like they do with R6
@@Roberto-fg9oj get a life we got it you want attention
@@Roberto-fg9oj if you dislike him just don't watch... There is no reason to be rude 😂
@@Roberto-fg9oj i wish i was as cool as you bro, i wouldnt dare insult some one whos content i go out of my way to watch... id look dumb
@@Roberto-fg9oj you guys with that retarted pfp always try so hard to get reactions man😭
@@yardie6954 D taste good ?
It must be appetizing
This video has officially became the most forsenCD farmer of all time (2nd place Clara's clip)
forsenCD SO?
tarkov needs that spectator mode, I think it's much easier to get away with cheating currently because of there not being any way to spectate
@@Thawne1338 he literally said why.
That and kill cams
kill cams with squads, sounds good
@@Thawne1338 Are you slow? Are you brain dead? Try to think for a second, it even said it in the video, if there were kill cams or spectating available (after your whole team dies of course, after raid or something too so there is 0 chance of ghosting) then it would be easier to find out who is cheating, and more reports on the account = more cheaters banned. It also helps people to know whether they died legit or to a hacker.
@Thawne to see if they snaped on me, tracked me through walls, or if I just got shit on
I remember the encounter where many of us uninstalled Tarkov. We were playing shoreline, moving around the outside of the map, someone charged through the Resort, killed several players with grenade spam, and before they could have even looted a body that same person had run all the way to the map's swamp edge to headshot our lead man. We booked it, he chased us with what seemed like infinite stamina and omnipotence, through several sections of forest, over hills, through a village all the way to the coastline, where he finally caught up to our second guy and killed him. I was last, but took cover behind a berm. He had no line of sight to me, and despite my repositioning, he would put rounds directly on my location without me even peeking. This was back in 2019. Haven't gone back since. It's several times harder for me to even gain access to an auction house than it was in 2018-19. The only reason I played knowing cheating was rampant was because I could spend a few minutes on the auction house and make it back. It's a shame, the gunplay was honestly satisfying, and the game could've been so much better.
>gunplay was honestly satisfying
>the first bullet flies into the sky
i swear xqc face cam is getting bigger and bigger each video i watch. Next video going to be the magical 1/4 of the screen
Allowing players to speed up their scav times and heal times by spending time spectating lobbies would be a super cool system. No rewards for reporting or anything, but only for time spent spectating so people don't spam report. Then there would be more eyes on players, making it harder to cheat and get away with it. Food for thought.
good idea but that's way too much work for BSG, they keep it as it is
@@david-ek2bo That's exactly why I spent ten minutes googling how to uninstall XD
actually good idea, they def should implement this in some way, too bad theyre BSG
Hackers gonna be killing each other over wiggles now haha goat is a genius
I'm sure they already switched to tea bagging. Not a hard thing when they can literally see eachother.
The most annoying thing about cheating is, If I can turn WH on for ever 3 seconds, that's so much crucial information that I can probably end up winning.
Who knows how many people do this, in CS for example, if you can turn WH on for 3 seconds and see the setup, you can execute the round perfectly
u can have your mouse inject cheats into any pc that runs the game u want to cheat on, undetected. who knows how many tournament players actually won because of that. this whole online multiplayer gaming stuff is just a big fucking clown show at this point. dont even get me started on twitch. id bet my ass that 80% of all twitch streamers who play shooters cheat for financial gain.
I had a friend who wanted to quit so he said fuck it and bought cheats to get banned. He could see peoples KD and there was literally 1-5 people per raid with 10-20kd. He was able to see how many people actually cheat.
this is how you test cheats, not like that fortnite guy just abusing it as an "example/experiment"
Are you talking about Jarvis?
@@Stallzyx no, ninja
from now on I'll wiggle whenever I change positions
OCD Andy had 2 minutes left before the interview and couldn’t wait
Litterly has been every shooting game i can remember since 2007.
I was hiding at nighttime shoreline in a house, it was pitch black. and some random guy just walked up to my position after I was afk for almost 20mins. just knew where I was prone and 1 tapped me..
Holy shit even X is watching this!?!? God daaaaaamn
dude even xqc is watching this, jesus
Every raid has atleast 1 cheater, its easy to test by hiding in random bushes or places no one would ever go and every raid they find you especially if you go in raid with something worth a bit of cash
That's false. First of all most cheaters are not this dumb. If every cheater looked for people in bushes, they'd get reported to infinity and get banned.
Even in goat's video, it is obvious that cheaters try to hide it as much as possible, interracting with players the fewest times possible, just trying to soak up all loot without being fought or seen so they don't get reported.
Also it's closer to 60% of raids having a cheater. so 1/1,8 raids has a cheater...on some servers...on some maps...if you're solo
@@Birdsickle That's not false. It's actually true. This was tested 4 years ago by a small Greek youtuber. He would hide in inconspicuous spots on multiple different maps (closets, big bushes, that sort of thing). He would test it by having absolutely nothing of value, and then he would take out 3+ bitcoin from his secure container and do the same thing. Whenever he took out his bitcoins from his secure container, it was like sharks drawn to blood. He only did a bit of testing, but from what he could 100% confirm, was that in 300 raids, 70% of them had at least one cheater. And he wouldn't say that every single time he got caught and died was by a cheater, he had more criteria than just being found and dying that had to be met. 4 years ago. 70% chance of AT LEAST 1 cheater. Multiple maps were tested. Multiple different server regions were tested. 300 raids. He also made mention of every single time he died to a definite cheater, they had a unique name. So he didn't run into ANY repeat offenders, unless they changed their in game name. Again, that's 210 raids out 300 that had 1 confirmed cheater. That's a massive problem. That's not a 4-5 percentile. We're talking well into the double digits here. And that's also excluding labs, you know, the map with the most confirmed cheaters, confirmed by cheaters themselves. An average of 4 cheaters are in every single labs raid, regardless of ToD and server region. That's straight up unhealthy for any game.
Yeah not true. Unless ur mad stacked cheaters ain't gonna rage on a dude in a bush in the middle of no where.
Like yall got some weird ideas.....
Also it's more like 80%+ of raids have a cheater not every single one but pretty close
@@exposureArts The video from 4 years ago confirms it is true though.
@@Birdsickleother cheaters have stated that playing with cheats for years (larger sample size, better at recognizing other cheaters) it's really like at least 1 cheater in every raid for most maps.
Well farming scavs is a thing of the past now. Get a kd too high and your either getting targeted by cheaters or you get banned....... good times
Just keep kd below 4 if u don't want to get shlapppped by a cheater lol
they see pmc k/d not overall
"his lvl 40, how many raids have he ruined" haha some people have been using cheats since 3, 4 wipes ago haven't been banned until today
I can name 3 big time streamers that are cheaters. Off of first hand fights I had with them while cheating.
X talking like he knows Tarkov well.
i mean hes played a bit
@@Versace_sheets yes but not enough for him to care if he they cheat or not type of thing you know even me I don't play it much either, like taking the example of him playing OW way back in the days he would of care if someone cheated on his game but if I was a guy that would hop into OW and touch the game twice or 3 times a month than I would not care if someone cheated in my lobby once but seeing it all the time is a problem you know because I only play the game a bit.
@@crimsonshin7002 I mean Tarkov is high risk high return game. Every loss gear game, it punished hard so it normal to care that even if you do a few runs per month. It ruined your game fs.
@@oramisc90 true
@@crimsonshin7002plus it allows more attention get out towards stopping it, which will prob do nothing, BUT it MIGHT do something🤷♂️
That wiggle reminds me of "GET STICK BUGGED LOL" meme :D
I was so hoping he would review this lets go
huge exposure for the vid
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Need a replay sys for Apex ngl
its like that whole tiktok trend that started from ppl saying that monkey profile pic people were pedos
Unfunny random comment about making something out of nothing
It's almost as cringe as all the comments on Adin Rosses videos all saying some generic "You've come a long way Adin you've grown Tate would be proud" type shit.
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#BLM
@@konichiwawanochinese #BWC
This happens in Rust as well: ua-cam.com/users/shortsNz0sL3WOKdw?feature=share
Was class watching this, this was what I was like first watching the video then it hits you hard
Why don’t they just put in anticheat that whatever you put into the game folder you get insta banned? This game doesn’t have any mods
There it is, there's the emote
oh yeah, the wiggle is a legendary move amongst cheaters
Tarkov stocks after this video AINTNOWAY
whats really sad is its been this way for the past 2 years and even longer thats just when i discovered the "wiggle" it was the patch before lighthouse. I think the saddest thing is most of these people never get ban LOLOLOLOLOL I can first hand confirm.
its not 2 years... its past like 20 years or more but I get it, ur too young to remember first online MP games...
He's not being hyperbolic.
That guy said there is a cheater once in every 20 raids.
Queue Lab 1 time 😂
I used to be a mod in minecraft, and I learned a lot about detecting cheaters and the cheats they use, This is really no different, Its literally like 1 in 5 or 1 in 10 people are cheaters, and this game is no different, That's why I stopped playing a lot of fps games, games like tarkov, hunt showdown, even some cs:go games all have cheaters very commonly,
most people think its not cheating if its not complete aimbot, but there are so many ways to cheat that give you such an advantage in the game, its insane.
x ray cheats, like the one in this video are the most common way to give yourself a huge advantage.
Absolutely. I stopped playing competitive pvp games a long time ago due to this, even 20 years ago when I was playing early versions of CS people were cheating. I'm more surprised lately by how many people are surprised at the number of cheaters in these games.
@@stateazure couldn't agree more
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I played shooter games since I was a kid from 1.6 Era. I have probably put close to 10k hours in shooters. My aim got really good that I even competed in tournaments. I couldn't count how many times I have been called a hacker/cheater. I was suprised why, yes I was top 0.1 % of players in any shooter I took seriously but then I realized how many of "good" players actually cheated after there was mass banning waves in those games. I have quit shooters for the most for good 8 years.
@@cr0wN_ same. except I was also a mod and had experience using tools to catch cheaters.
dude at this point i only want something like vanguard for eft
crazy thing, this info is not new. there was an interview with a cheater like 2 years ago and even then, he said there was a cheater in almost every raid. im honestly surprised that people still take tarkov seriously. i guess the whole monopoly of the genre.
not to mention acting like a gamer like himself is unaware of the fps epidemic of hackers
With goats number saying any full lobby has 60% chance to have a cheater means 4% of the playerbase cheats on average on customs map
60% chance to have at least one. That's the key. The chance also increases depending what map you play. Labs averages 4 cheaters per raid. Yes, that's right - PER RAID. There is practically a 100% chance that there is at least 1 cheater per lab raid. Shoreline and Lighthouse have an 85% chance that there is AT LEAST 1 cheater in a raid. 4% of the player base isn't cheating; that number is far too low. I mean not too long ago, BSG bragged on social media that they banned 35% of their concurrent player base in a single ban-wave. That's slightly over 1/3 of the entire player base that was banned for cheating, IN A SINGLE BAN-WAVE. That's just absurd.
You have to be smoking crack if you even get more than 2-3 people per Labs raid if you queue 10 matches back to back@@mikerak6283
someone make a game where "cheating mechanics" and like seeing through walls are already part of the game so players are not incentivized to cheat and you can actually make a good product and game off of that
It already exists, It's called Escape from Tarkov!
You have that in space tarkov(the cycle). There is a chance to roll a perk on your helmet while forging which gives you like a thermal hunter vision and you see people through walls up to 60m i think.
There was a Playstation game where you put on a visor with an energy bar that gave you walls, blacklight retribution. Pretty cool game, f2p, got shuttered after a few years.
The problem with that is then it makes it easier for a cheater to get away with it because you could hide behind the game mechanics and say it’s because of that. No matter what a game has there will always be someone cheating.
apex still has cheaters
i never played tarkov, but how manny players are there in a game/raid?
does it end when everyone is dead?
i wiggle alot not even thinking about it
Holy shit this really is THE tarkov video of all time
why isn't the video src video linked??
watching at 1080p but xqc stream is like 240p
Man, I'm really curious what it's like in a reality where game cheaters never existed; would games be harder cuz the average skill level would need to be higher, or would it be even more dumbed down to compensate the trash players? or would there even be trash players if it was all truely equal without degen cheaters ruining everything?
it's real interesting to think about, but it's also equally sad that it'll never be possible anymore
it would probably be about the same as it is now with less frustrating encounters where you appear to die to bullshit. Only for the reality to be a cheater that was gunning for you.
The average skill would seemingly drop a little bit as the assistance of tools would be removed, taking away some of the "higher skill" players.
It would be the same lol you don’t even encounter cheaters that often
I don't feel like I ever see cheaters in tarkov, but maybe some of the really good players I've died to have been cheaters in reality. If cheaters didn't exist, the average skill level would drop, since a large amount of the best players would disappear leaving only the legit ones. Anyone who wasn't cheating would start performing better in comparison to before
If cheaters never existed we would most likely never had sick montage vids of 360 noscope and multikills in early CoD games... Also online games like Overwatch or CoD multiplayer would not be dead after release cuz people would enjoy playing at their rank trynna improve and game companies would had more money... we can still do that... all the game studios need are cheat hunters that will browse google every day and start taking down them cheat providers, sueing them and much more... then people would be scared to even develop cheats for said games if that ever happened... Overwatch had this team first 2 years before smurfs came into place and then they just gave up... even console cheating is easy nowdays thanks to gamepad emulators that will emulate your controller inputs and aim for you (for example Nadia)...
Man insightful commentary coming from the Omega Juicer Warlord King of the Cosmic Continuum
Same shit with wz2 u can find cheats so ez and devs still cant patch it lol
7:28 all us tarky players have been getting one guy’d all along😢
the wiggle monkerS
Thats why I only play tarkov with the singleplayer mod. It is still fun that way
How does the PMC AI work? Are they just reskinned scavs with scav war enabled?
L take tbh
@@ChongiFishing they run around like scavs and raiders I think wirh pmc spawns and gear. It feels pretty good ingame for me but it is easier than normal tarkov of course.
How does XQC reacts to a tarkov video better than LVNDMRK. That dudes reaction was soooooo sketchy 💀💀💀💀
landmark cheats himself probs
@@420Kitty He literally just did a stream with a webcam taped to head lol. He was shitting on kids as usual.
@@ZephraFPS that doesn't mean he doesn't cheat 🤦🤦 every other stream lmfao. You need better proof than that
PepeLaugh dont google wireframe lvndmark
@@ZephraFPS you can have an esp the size of a pixel and it wont be noticed by a webcam tbh
Man i used to love tarkov. Cheaters ruin it
Awesome xqc gives this problem exposure
Won't change a thing, tarkovs current changes actually make cheaters more money lol 😆
There is a hacker in 80+% of raids. On night raids its even higher.
Most night raid cheaters are just collecting rmt items or boosting an account off questing and scav kills.
9:43
You're a genius
Why we cheat in exam exactly
And thats why i dont play tarkov, its a good game but watching this confirms that most of my deaths are most likely by a cheater xD
I'm not sure if you've watched the actual video but in the original, the guy mentions how one distinct thing he remembers from doing the tests is how whenever someone would aim-lock onto his head he would die the first or second hit but he would continue to hear the bullets whizzing by as if the cheater was still locked on. This made him recall how many times he's heard the same sound in the past when he's died in "mysterious" ways and how it likely was a cheater every time.
Thank you for exposing this. This also applies to other videogames including COD!
bro no way this video is so viral xqc is watching it 💀
I don't think BSG is encouraging cheating, I just think that they are have been very incompetent in handling it. Some of Nikita's responses today via reddit regarding security were fairly good ideas but they need to be implemented. It's in a bad state man.
cheaters have to buy the game too.
bsg could give a shit less. on top of that, if a cheater gets banned.. they have to buy the game again.
@@soulserrated I understand what you're saying but losing the majority playerbase vs losing cheaters is substantial. Community is long term revenue, cheater repurchases are short term, and even then they have to get banned to begin with to repurchase. A more permanent solution other than Battle Eye needs to be implemented and his ideas/plans were good in theory.
@@maybecole community generates no revenue at all though. They've already bought the game, and Nikita for some reason refuses to add monetization into the game.
@@ForOne814 It has and continues to get new players, right now they are in the fun phase of handling spaghetti code, bug fixing, changing mechanics, working through anti-cheat, etc. No new foreseeable content until its changed. Gonna feel like a drought but must be done. I understand the repurchasing of accounts, but what happens when the vast majority of regular players leave? Cheaters playing against each other in a tiny population that gets no streamer support, no marketing, extremely bad rep. Etc. I don't think this is what they want in the long run, but have been neglecting it. A lot of these new actions taken are steps in the right direction until more immediate or permanent solutions are implemented, eg: Lawsuits, hardware banning, kernel level protections, among others listed in the thread.
@@maybecole Nikita doesn't care about this project, he created it by accident, he wanted just another generic DayZ-clone without zombies. He still does. He wants to turn this masterpiece of a concept into another open world post-Soviet survival game.
Is this Faze Jarvis part 2?
AMONGUS WIGGLE
As a tarkov hacker im glad this is starting to get some light
this knowledge is essential for survival . in a fight against zombie alien ai , qeqe will save dozens of lives🤣
This is a good video but there are videos of people catching cheaters with the wiggle test from years ago. Kind of sad it’s still as big of an issue with the game today.
Can you link it? I've never seen one and I've looked. So these people were using cheats to find cheaters too?
@@tanyathorvilson There was a video in particular of a European guy I remember from at least 3 years ago where a guy had a esp and was going around unarmed and wiggling at people through ceilings and like bathroom stalls He narrated over the top discussing the cheating problem. I've tried to find it for you but it's really difficult these days finding old videos on youtube.
I'm pretty sure it was before the BattlEye implementation where the amount of cheaters was even worse back then. These days you have to be invited to buy a cheat and on top of that it is very expensive usually, but the average Tarkov player has EoD edition so unfortunately a lot of people don't mind paying that much to cheat as well.
@Guanjyn Thanks for looking. Either way a video like this one or that one hits harder than just hearing a steamer say that there's more cheaters than people realize. I'm the type that needs to see it to believe it.
Glad to know i wasn't going crazy when i was getting domed from absolutely no where every few games
went to get a drink... bad cold.... hmmmmm
games need to make a waver you have to sign before playing where if you are caught cheating they have the right to take your hands from you aka hammer to the hands.
why was lil bro watching the button from cut play tarkov 💀
you need to calm down big bro
@@shrekjunior6144 I think they were talking about the voice changer used in the original video
@@liamhoffman I know lil bro, I was just telling big bro to calm down with the🔥 jokes on a stack no cap.
@@shrekjunior6144 👍
damn g0ats video is going viral
If you didn't know the PUBG 2d Shake, you're late as fuck to the party.
Most people moved from cheating in PUBG to Tarkov. And the PUBG Shake, is setting your aimline directly in the direction of the enemy pushing you, and shaking it left and right, in a "No." position. They always stopped, and turned around for the next team.
good thing this isnt shit G
So you're a cheater yourself? The worst cancer of video games?
@@Ebb0Productions PUBG refused to fix the Chi Chongs having about 8-12 entire hack teams every match at high MMR, so yes. Use a basic 2d radar to assist with outsmarting them, beating them with the mosty blatant teleporting, instant bullet travel, pseudo-magic bullets bypassing the server detection, aimbot, server priority, pak editing to giant models, flying cars... So yes. We did.
👍😂 xqc is quick to disagree, then agree
Among us ruines him xD
guys help me , i suddenly had this key strapped to my fingers and hand, and everytime i get reminded of how i have no friends irl i automatically press the key . the key will type like this green emote in the chat , i dont know what to do somebody pls help me
the 19kda on the hacker at 10:24 made me quit this wipe.. (its my 6th wipe.. im so disappointed in bsg)...
I had days when I had a wall hacker every first and or second game of the day. Shoreline is especially bad. These guys are so fucking bad at times, you can literally toy with them.
Tarkov is my all time favorite game. I'm scared for what this video will be about.
pepelaugh oh no no no ....
@@sepehrrezaee5505 I finished the video, and it's not as bad as I thought from the title thankfully. I already knew Tarkov had a lot of cheaters, and I saw a similar video to this of a guy exposing cheaters in labs a couple years ago.
It doesn't really bother me because I usually still manage to do well and have fun. But it really does make me sad to see these cheaters hanging around low level areas like customs just to ruin peoples day, and turning away new players. It's a real shame.
@💖 Fun-Sized Femboy 💖 As a new player this didn't turn me away at all because I have no frame of reference. I rat so hard not even cheaters can find and kill me.
@@Snack-Sized-Femboy Would've been really interesting if he went to the maps where cheaters were at the most like lighthouse and reserve to see how bad it actually can be instead of customs where its going to be a lot of lower level engagement
Landmark denying all...
LVNMARK said "This is dumb and this doesnt even mean that those guys are hacking, just means they are randomly doing a wiggle"
No one cares
Yeah I don't think all of the people shown wiggling were cheating but most of them obviously were
Yea, don't you see lvnmark's streams? He randomly wiggles all the time! /S
If the game tarkov dies or takes a hit in player count, that effects the tarkov streamers and their income. The reason all the dedicated tarkov streamers criticize this video is because they see this video as a threat.
Wtf did he say to chat at 1:55? Man was speaking pure gibberish.
I mean technically every raid he was in had at least 1 cheater
the wigle in the gaming community manly mean friendly
Let me break this down for any of you that dont understand this concept.
From a “player” perspective and for someone that loves the game, and enjoys the game. We want the “cheaters” to be removed immediately.
However in a “business” world that's not how this works.
Here is a simple business concept for you. You own a game, now you know 3-5 big sites have cheats for your game and that 20-40% of that player base is “cheaters” Now if you LET them cheat for a certain amount of “playtime” like LEVEL 20-40 or lets say 3-6 months.
You as a game owner KNOW a cheater will see the “PROFIT” of buying the game AND the cheat. Because it lasted for a decent period of time.
So take 100 cheaters. Now the game about 40$ so 40$ X 100 = 4.000 now do the bigger number,
10.000 X 40 = 40.000$ free profit.
IF you THINK that EA or Steam or any BIG company can't hire someone to download, cheat, and make an anticheat against their “public” cheats. You have lost the reality of game businesses and how it works.
This guy proved nothing, it has been like this in all games for over 15 years. And will continue to do so.
This is a fine business model when the anti cheat makes cheaters play only cheaters until ban, but I doubt the unbanned cheaters are being lobbied with only cheaters
Xqc plays tarkov...? I love that xqc's eeactions are pretty similar to i did
verybadscav pogu
Bro what are u even saying
Chesters in a fps game.nothing new
So. Did you break your pc over this?
Kid at 15:30 is HostilePuppy on yt and is still trying to play it off like hes not hacking
Rename video to: ‘bothering cheaters with social interaction’
Bothering cheaters? Huh
Wiggle, wiggle, wiggle
i only play SPT
"why bother leaning" its because its like a secret handshake, or a wink to each other right in front of people who are oblivious. When you're in a "secret group" like that, its fun to do. its a way to say "we're the same" in front of other people who are clueless of anything even going on, if that makes sense. Its a very common concept in modern conspiracies about secret societs, and sht like that. the hand over the eye, 33, etc.
He means leaning to peek a corner when you're cheating. You are literally stupid for misunderstanding. The guy on woods WAS cheating, but didn't wiggle, he leaned around the corner. X was asking ''why even bother leaning'' as in why bother sweating game mechanics if you're cheating.
suprised there isnt a cheat that deactivates all cheats in the lobby lmao