How Cheap can you really LS swap a BMW??
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- Опубліковано 19 жов 2020
- Today we'll break down the costs associated with LS swapping the E90 chassis from mild to wild and go over some of the options you have available to you
Common Terminator kits for the swap and GM Throttle body
Holley Terminator DBW with trans control - amzn.to/3ms9GmA
Holley Terminator DBW for manual trans - amzn.to/3uuPjs4
6 Pin GM DBW TB - amzn.to/2R4Ni7g
Split loom brand we use - amzn.to/2PGHxfN
walbro 450 pumps - amzn.to/3rWVUK6
fuel line kits - amzn.to/3fUj5Cx
Threaded IAT sensor - amzn.to/3dK9X0k
Fbody Water Pump - amzn.to/3uCcEYL
thermostat housing - amzn.to/39Xp4CL
Fbody a/c compressor - amzn.to/3fX6deI
Fbody a/c manifold - amzn.to/3uy8wJ6
T56 Slave adapter to AN - bit.ly/2PQx9lJ
Everything filmed on this GoPro
gopro camera - amzn.to/3g166Px
External Mic - amzn.to/3d2eZGm
GoPro Mic Adapter - amzn.to/3dILsk4 - Авто та транспорт
I appreciate the detail and breakdown of everything. Definitely helped dumb this stuff down for people like me that have never swapped an engine.
Even more detailed videos coming, breaking everything down into individual videos starting with the complete wiring guide on Mike’s 1 series swap. First video should be ready this weekend.
Awesome
That low range is very doable, man glad I found this channel 👌
Glad you enjoy it!
This is the cheapest way to make any BMW *reliable*
You are so funny kid
Bad idea to want to ls swap my reliable bmw in the name of more power?
As an N54 owner. Yes.
The 328i is probably one of the most reliable compared to the turbo or V8 ones
Lol easiest way to make a old Gm car stop in a short distance
best breakdown video by far
Sir Thank you for all the information. You are the best on UA-cam so far. Thank you
Great breakdown, thanks watching in Ireland 🇮🇪
I’m tempted to do this for project or just get CTSV 1st/2nd gen or C5 for about the same price by the time you finish with the mid level build + car cost. Only thing I hate about the CTSV is the interior. It’s be a fun project for sure.
Awesome video.. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME! very cool to share your knowledge
Damn been waiting for a video like this for years, thank you!
Keep it up, I really hope to see more videos from you in the near future.
More on the way just been a struggle the past few months with Mike in the hospital and Myself(Garrett) having a new baby. Hopefully have some Procharged 335 content out soon with Frank!
Have an E92 N54 FBO, E85 custom tune, for over 12 yrs now.
But I like learning about things like this. Thank you for sharing.
Maybe, reliability vs reliability could have been also discussed in this video or another.
I subscribed.
We’d love to discuss the reliability of both however we were never N54 guys so we’d have to bring in some buddies to help with that.
More content coming soon including a follow up on the pricing video as well as the FAQ video.
Appreciate the support!
nice nice i've been researching options away from the bmw heritage. this is a good swap.
All mounts for $600!? I’m sold.. very well drawn out for us to understand. Thanks!
Good stuff. Like the details. Thanks
been looking for this video. your channel is an awesome resource. im hopefully getting an 07 e92 rwd 328i with hopes to swap.
You get it ?
@@chiefsergee no, it was a salvage car and there was a reason they weren’t repairing it even though it was a “simple fix”. Id rather buy a car thats straight from the get go.
I’m around $25k into my M3. That’s a turbocharged, LS swap, car, fully modded everything all together cost.
Same here. These toys aint cheap! I'm at $30k over the last 6 years. 2'nd T56, 2'nd subframe and differential. On3 7875 huge meth kit with dual nozzles, 5.3 iron block has been rebuilt 2 times (bent connecting rods, popped pistons etc). 12psi totally reliable 480whp no intercooler with meth. 16psi feels good and has proven reliable 600whp. 18psi bent connecting rods 650whp intake temps were 300 degrees f. I need to cram an intercooler in there somewhere. Thinking of putting the rad in the trunk.
@@jsnyara hell yeah, that’s totally badass brother.
How much hp
@@frontspring1 all of it
@@CameronLegend probably on stock pistons
Thank you for this video it really helps me out
By far the most in depth video I’ve seen. Thank you so much for the information.
great video, just got a 530i e90 auto by chance and it needs bunch of work, was looking at swapping to manual, then found out about the ls swaps, ive been saving up for a r33 gtst but having this car sit in my driveway and seeing the 800hp one in mckinney has meet thinking of putting 10-20k into this swap, in up in allen tx, ill be researching more and might hit u guys up. thanks for the video
530i e90 huh interesting 😆
Thank you for this amazing video.
I love these videos, super excited about the possibilities. I do have a question though. How do you configure the ECU? Do the ones you listed come with the interface software, or would I need to get something like HP tuners?
You download the software for free from Holley.
Im looking a an e90 wagon with a shit motor for a swap and its gonna be my family weekend cruiser. May even do a Clark Griswold green/wood panel wrap to complete the thing 😂
*e91
Thanks now I’m gonna begin my swap
Planning on dropping a built and supercharged LS into my f10 535 I can’t wait 😩
Luv this I'm bout to do E36 5 series lsx sequential 6speed msd with Holly Digi dash etc
The ECU situation is where I get hung up on. The ecu kit that you speak of, it ties into the original electronics of the Beemer? I know its not a simple plug and play. I'm actually a working mechanic. But I just today heard that they were this swap. And I love 745. But I know the engine and trans has issues. So the thought of doing an ls swap just got me going. But where can I get detailed instructions for this swap? I really need to know.
I have a 2004 645cic, is there a way to keep all the original electrical components working after an LS 6 swap?
Good detail 👌
Thanks for the support!
I'm torn between T56 or 4L80E. I love manual but I kinda just wanna chill until it's time to go and stomp on it. My Tremor has spoiled me with auto but I also gots the maunal lyfe in me.
I have a 2010 e92 xdrive so I think the 4l80e will fit ok with out too much banging.
yes the x drive has extra room for the 80e
hey Mike, do you already have a solution for traction control?
Curious. Have you heard of anyone using the wiring specialties conversion harness kit? Haven’t heard anything about them, but looking into it for a full plug and play setup that retains factory interior electronics. Thoughts? Good video too by the way! Makes me feel a little better about starting in on my build.
Also, I’ll be doing an e46 if that changes anything...
E46 and E90 are two completely different platforms
I love LS Swaps, however, I just cannot get over wanting to swap a coyote or a voodoo motor in an e92. I have a buddy who has a spare 5.0 gen 2 with the T82 transmission, full wiring harness, etc. My biggest concern is the DME/CAN setup to allow the electronics to speak to each other. Do you think with me buying my buddies coyote (6k, 45k miles) and trans, I could have a running/driving coyote swapped e9x for around $12,000 total not including the cost of the car obviously.
Will fit in between the shock towers ? I thought the coyote is wide
Cool video thank you
Thanks for the support!
I have a 2007 bmw 750li. Can I use these steps for my ls swap?
Really interested in a Z3 swap. Would be a super fun daily.
The first videos on my page will be of Z3 & Genesis LS swaps! Gives us a follow for future content!
Which driveshaft do u recommend?
I'm thinking of doing a stock 5.3 on my 135i for 1k hp
I just picked up a dirt cheap 01 330ci and also was offered a ls1 w/ 40k miles from a buddy of mine for free. Bmw is currently auto debating on 4l80.
What engine and trans are you using on your car ? Thanks
Great breakdown. Any idea how much hp can the stock fuel pump support. will it be able to supply a cammed ls3 in the 550hp range?
Unsure on actual hp support of the stock pump but we do know that people are seeing pressure drop from the stock feed lines.
good swap bud.
*Thank you for this breakdown. I hope to be a customer in the near future.....*
You can do it!
Good stuff
Hello, I have a couple of questions (I have a F10 2012 550i, the engine died) can I leave the old transmission using an adapter, and leave the standard computer from BMW, reprogramming it for the LS6.0 engine, (I am most interested in reprogramming the computer from BMW to Chevrolet LS6.0???????
Thanks.
How would a gseries 8hp75 from the diesel 535 hold torque of a turbo ls swap? 700-800 whp
It's the trans I have in my 335d rn with my M57
I’m really surprised actually. An automatic set up is not bad.
Will those mounts work on an f30?
Hello do you have any kit that I can be able to do my 2014 Bmw 428 I swap into a LS
What if i have an awd e90 would it need to be a rwd?
How do you do it to make cluster work with LS engine
How do I get a full list of parts needed for the base/cheapest swap?
Really depends on to many factors including your skills
Could you guys do this to my e60? it looks like your in my area from previous videos
I’m debating doing a LS swap on a Z3, what LS motor would you suggest if I’m trying to do a mid range swap?
Do you have any info to swap a 07 e60?
Would the ecu kit work on an e39 525?
@HangMan Performance I'm doing a e36 sedan m3 ls swap I have headers and motor mounts. Really interested in getting a tr6060 transmission mount
Just seeing this comment, unfortunately Mike does not offer anything for the E36 or E46 chassis at this point in time.
Someone needs to get a twin turbo ls3 setup goin on a e63 coupe that’d be sick. Would prob be cheaper than buying a f13 and dealing with just the cooling lines alone lol
I have a 07 Z4 I want to swap a LS to it. How much will you charge me and are you in the United States?
All i want is engine mount and oil pan so i can drive the car bcus e30 sound bad so i can get a cheap 6.0 lq9 witch is capable of over 1000hp if strocked to 408
$5000 is enough... but I make everything myself. Just made a custom trans crossmember today for about $25
K 👌
I'm curious how the price would be effected by the pmc adapter kit
So you can an a swap for about five grand I have a BMW 335i would love to LS swap where can I find mount kit
I’m thinkin about doing something similar does everything work? Like all the cars features and functionality?
The only thing you lose is cruise control, and I believe it’s the adaptive traction control because it needs the DME to function, you’re left with 2 brake lights on the dash, which can be coded out. Other than that, the radio, a/c, interior functions, it all works like normal.
He boss I want to swap a 6.0 with a dct trans you have a kit for that ?
If using the factory bmw pedal and a holly terminator kit do you keep traction control?
You can build it into Holley, factory traction control does not work
can you ls swap with the dct trans
What is it and how do I put it in my 04 xi
Super nice wow 👌🏽👌🏽
About a swap z4 e85. ?
My 2012 f30 n26 328i engine blew and I have a 4.8 vortec engine laying around. Just for the the new engine for the n26 is around 4k used , how much should I expect to spend just to ls swap it ?
If you have the skill set, we’ve had guys do the complete swap for under 5k. In the end it all depends on what parts you buy, deals found, if you modify the engine, etc.
Post and sticky part #'s for those axles for your kit please.
www.seemslegitgarage.com/product-page/e82-e92-axle-upgrade
Can you use just like a standard cable throttle body or is it difficult to fit the different throttle pedal
You would have to build a custom pedal and run the cable through the floor, mikes original bmw was this way and it was not ideal at all, the DBW with a Holley and stock pedal is the best way to do it
What do you charge to do this swap? I have a 2008 535i with low compression and a 2000 Chevy Suburban with 5.3l that runs great thought about swapping it over
At some point Mike will be offering the parts for a 5 series swap but we will not be offering the swap service ourselves.
Can you LS swap a BMW...without going broke? 🤔
Only After the swap, it will get cheaper 😉
Do they make a adapter plate for the automatic BMW x5 4.4 transmission to bolt up to the LS motor. is your truck all wheel drive or just rear wheel drive
Unfortunately no, Iv been looking for the e70 better off swapping the trans
I know they make allwheel drive escalade 6.0 would fit in the 03 bmw x5 all wheel drive? I'm trying to keep my allwheel drive.
Or how can we get in contact to discuss business
Hey I got a 04 330ci I wanna ls swap it will your kit work?
So basically I need to just keep my e46 stock until I make salary $$$
Would you advise using a junkyard 8.8?
All we use are JY 8.8 pullouts, normally sourced from eBay or marketplace but absolutely nothing wrong with a JY center chunk, 9 out of 10 explorers never saw enough abuse to be trashed. If you want, a cheap upgrade is the Ford posi setup we have linked in our latest video covering the install of an 8.8 using Mikes mount kit.
What about using the pcm adapter and keeping the bmw drivetrain
Lots of info on that via the Facebook group, we don’t recommend it which is why it’s not covered.
facebook.com/groups/450961372349986/?ref=share_group_link
I’m sure you’ve mentioned this countless times but is there a specific year or model T 56 that is ideal for this swap? I’m being told that not all of them will fit
98-02 camaro or trans am
@@lse90garage - Thank you for the quick response!
How much do you charge for a ls2 swap on a 328i coupe as far as labor ,can you give like a ball park estimate .Im interested in putting more time and love into this project
You can email us at
hangmanenterprises@gmail.com
We can discuss doing a swap for you.
Will cruise control be able to work?
No you will lose cruise control.
What about the HP approximately between the 3 ranges?
If we broke it down I guess you could say...
Stock 4.8/5.3/6.0 - 280hp-320hp
Stock 5.7 LS1 - 320hp
Cam/intake/exhaust 4.8/5.3/6.0 - 350hp-450hp
Stock LS3 - 365hp
Cam/intake/exhaust LS3(6.2) - 500hp
Turbo build, depending on boost anywhere from 500wheel to 1000hp
The only items on the list that change hp would be cubic inches, and if you can afford to do say a cam, or nice FAST intake, run the CX Racing mid length headers, that sort of thing.
Were you able to use the bmw gauge cluster or did you go aftermarket?
Mikes can box allows the factory gauges to work in the E90/E80/E60 chassis
wouldn't just using the BMW ZF trans that's in the car so no worry about drive shaft etc?
Clutch options are trash, a T56 handles the tq much better
@@lse90garage ah ok, I have a 318ti she'll and trying to figure out what to do with it
I have a 330Xi anything I need to do with the transfer case?
Remove it
How would this swap work for a bmw e92 xi? Is there anything that has to be done different?
X drive chassis has a different subframe, which I have mounts for. There is a lot more info on our facebook group. facebook.com/groups/450961372349986/
@@lse90garage know anybody in Florida that does these swaps? In Tampa
What is the wait time to have you do a build for me?
Email us at hangmanenterprises@gmail.com with what you’re looking to do and we can discuss further.
Is it realistic to believe I’d be paying similar prices to engine swap my 2012 5 series?
f series doesnt have any kits yet i believe and you wont get one anytime soon. to have an easier time just buy an e series bmw which mostly all have ls kits even the e60 which got one recently by lse90
If you have xdrive can you set this up to work with the awd system? I have a 2011 328i xdrive and would really like to keep the awd functional, but it’s not a dead set requirement
Currently nobody has kept AWD, it would require way too much cutting and fab to make it all fit, most likely a Trailblazer SS awd driveline would be the best bet but so far no AWD swaps exist
@@lse90garage well. I guess it time to lose my mind and go into debt trying to figure it out.
I'm not seeing any aluminum block LS motors around me for less than $4k :(
Is it possible to do a 2013 328i
F30 is on the list but as of yet none have been swapped
I got a e90 I want to ls swap what ls gen do ya use??
Gen3 or gen4 LS, they’re all the same size physically, buy the biggest displacement you can afford, LS3 preferably for n/a, or if turbo get an iron 6.0
Would to have your contact information. I have a 745i would like to know if you have mount kits ?
That chassis is not supported
Ok huge question for you. Does the holley ecu have a data cable? If so can you wire an obd2 to it?
No, and no.
@@lse90garage thanks so I guess follow up to that is how can I keep it street legal? Like emissions? Any ideas I think you had mentioned something about it before in vids but can’t seem to find it
@@Grimmsguns Yeah what we mentioned was you could leave a stock GM ECU in the car and you could split the signal so that the pcm knew the engine was there, and off that you could run an OBD2 and make it pass emissions.
@@lse90garage awesome buddy so basically holley would be like installing a piggy back ecu?
@@Grimmsguns no the GM ECU is the piggy back, it would have no other function besides passing OBD2 tests.
So basically with 10k you can do a decent Ls swap? Where you located
If you do it yourself, we’re in Houston
Could I use your swap kits with an lt1 V?
The block mounting location is not the same
Wanted to pop back in and let you know that Gen5 mounts will be coming soon, as we are working on swapping a LT4 supercharged setup into a 128i
One day I will build wide body ls f30