Praying for the conversion of the Muslims and indeed a conversion of lukewarm Christian’s … placing it all in Jesus hands and in the immaculate heart of Our Blessed Lady .
There is still only one truth. I couldn’t agree more, when you highlight our priority as Christians. We are, after all citizens of Heaven, sojourners in a foreign land ourselves. May the Lord grant us the peace and grace to bring others to repentance and salvation in Jesus Christ.
Ther is a branch of eschatology full of prophecies of the west falling to islam. The signs of this will be islam in power in france before the great monarch
It has to be said, here in France the statistics for Mass attendance, first Communions, ordinations etc... absolutely nose dived in the sixties, particularly 1965, a mass exodus (no pun intended ) The French turned their backs on God so to speak, and in huge numbers embraced the sexual revolution, contraception etc. Certainly can't blame the Muslims there, are they simply filling a religious vacuum ? Last year in this country, the birth rate was 45000 babies lower, compared to 2022, which was apparently low also. And when I see my native Ireland jumping on the bandwagon...brave new modern Ireland. heart breaking.
Yes, the renunciation of God, or renunciation of the Church accelerated through the sixties. It was a fascinating thing to witness and much could be said but above all, there was practically no resistance, no dynamic response. Everybody (or 90+%) lay and clergy lost faith. I knew exactly nobody who was searching for God, or the meaning of life etc, look to the church or Christianity for the solution. There are very very few "learned" men, reflective and zealous, discerning and courageous. Even rarer is the holy man, the saint, penetrative, incorruptible and wise. Like Zadoc the learned and scrupulous high priest on the one hand, and Nathan the prophet on the other. The saints are the roots that carry nourishment from the silent world of dark damp earth to the tree swaying in sun, air and rain. It would seem that we the tree, are just leaning against something rather than standing on it's roots.
@@hazchemel Totally, and much could be said regarding the quality, or lack rather, of our Bishops, Europe and USA. But I won't start, I won't know when to stop....
It really makes me wonder if this if the great falling away spoken of in Thessalonians. I find it also interesting that is basically coincides with gathering of the Jews into the land.
Gavin, thank you for your moral and spiritual clarity, courage, and determination to uncover and declare the truth. Based on my five years experience of living and working in North West Pakistan, a very conservative muslim culture, all you say rings true. Post-modern relativism of our ruling elites renders us incapable of seeing Islam for what it really is and of understanding its incompatibility to our culture. And yes, Jesus will have us pray for Muslims, who, as you say, are like all humanity made in the image of God. But we need to express hard truths about Islam.
In 2 Chronicle's 14:11 when faced with an army of million Ethiopians, king Asa prays "Lord, there is no one beside Thee to help in the battle between the powerful and those who have no strength; so help us, O Lord our God, for we trust in Thee, and in Thy name have come against this multitude. O Lord, Thou art our God; let not man prevail against Thee." The rest is history. I must believe that, with the most faith one can muster and a simple, well-articulated prayer, miracles can happen. In the end, though, I don't know precisely where we are in the Biblical timeline. End times? Perhaps. If so, we as Christians may be subject to an ever-growing, unrelenting darkness until we're extricated. In the meantime, my chant is "Courage Christian ... Courage!" LOLOL
Thank you. Your reminder at the end made my day much better 🙏. You're right, of course, we'd like a comfortable life, but what matters ultimately is where we end up.
Dr Ashenden thank you for your outspokenness, positivity, and for pointing a way forward for us as Christians. I have for a long time recognised the growing power of Islam in our country together with the demise of Christianity, in fact Christianity is held in contempt with Christians being told to stop evangelising on our streets as they are upsetting people. Where are our Christian Church leaders - they are silent! This sends a strong message to me that they have given up! How depressing! You are right about God’s Spirit powerfully at work in the world, particularly in Iran where many mosques have closed. I have also listened to the witness of Muslim men and women who have had amazing dreams where Jesus came to them and they subsequently converted to Christianity even though their families rejected them for this. It reminds me of the prophecy from the prophet Joel “And afterward, I will pour out my Spirit on all people. Your sons and daughters will prophesy, your old men will will dream dreams, your young men will see visions”. I agree with you that we must pray. I believe God is almighty and He will work this out.
You are so right in linking Marx, and Mohammed. Communism, and Islam are 2 of the 3 great fundamental, anti-Catholic forces extant in the World today. Our third gravest threat has largely been responsible for propagating both of these ideologies throughout the West, and helping them gain a foothold. Most people, and especially those on the Left, believe that Marx was an atheist. He wasn't. He believed in God full well, and hated him because of some early experiences in his own life where he didn't get what he wanted. As Catholics, we understand the meaning, and need for suffering. Christ said for us to take up our crosses and join him. Marx, because he was denied the object of his affection decided to wage war on God. His poetry reveals an underlying desire to storm Heaven and dethrone God. As this would never be possible, he undertook a plan, like Satan before him, to deprive souls of their Heavenly reward. He invented a quixotic ideology that was never meant to be functional, or beneficial, but instead was entirely hedonistic, and materialistic, therefore seductive, and alluring. It required nothing other than surrender to our most base impulses, and contained a poison seed at its core. It was meant to sever our connection to our soul, and the institution that existed to preserve that aspect of ourselves, the Catholic Church. Is it any wonder then how thoroughly saturated our culture is in sexual perversion, and every anti-Christian, anti-Family, anti-Natal inclination is elevated as a new sacrament? Our world is so sensual, and imbued with luxury, and self gratification to the point where it has been able to penetrate the clergy itself, suiting Marx's ultimate agenda. He will never gain his revenge on God, but he and his ilk, again like Satan before him, will settle for robbing souls of their Heavenly reward.
Thank you Dr. Ashenden & may we all take prayer much more seriously for without it, we are depriving ourselves of the power to change human hearts of the Lord Jesus in our walk of faith.
Revelation 20:4 "I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for the testimony of Jesus and for the word of God, and those who had not worshipped the Beast or its image and had not received its mark on their foreheads or their hands." This is our future and Islam follows the false prophet and the Beast. Jesus said we would know them by their fruits.Look what they have done to Israeli women, children, babies, elderly people. They will do the same to all of us. The writing is on the wall and in the Book of Revelation. Stand firm with God and Jesus Christ and save your soul.
Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass. Yahweh is a warlord god too
Truth is like a set of spanners for which only one, and one only, will fit the nut. All the rest look similar and look as though they might do the job, but ultimately are useless, because they are not an exact match. The fallen world is the nut, and Jesus Christ is the spanner. He has loosened the nut of all humanity lost in Adam, and he individually loosens the nut of our own individual lives. Only he can loosen the grip of the essential darkness in our souls and free us for eternal life with him in heaven. All the other spanners are a waste of time picking up, unless, of course, you are going through each one in your search for truth in the hope of eventually finding Him!! Our western, European society has picked up almost every other spanner and attempted to justify its trust in them, whilst, in the face of reason, laying down, even throwing away, the only one that they really need.
@@robertsharonbonaretti2525 Exactly. Matthew 10:34-36 Peace is a particular spiritual by-product of faith in Christ, given by God. Moderns treat it like candy, wrapped up in rainbow coloured paper and handed out with an engaging smile to anyone from anywhere.
But Jesus had a fit at the Temple and threw out the sellers of goods. He did not wait, he did not pray for them to leave, nor asked them to leave. He took action at a grave time which is the times we're in.
Yes, this is entirely true. But I think the characteristic of this encounter in the temple is that it is our Lords justified rage at the process of making worship less accessible ordinary person in Jerusalem, and making money rapaciously on the back of it. I think the circumstances of the violence were unique. He overturned the tables he didn’t damage the merchants. I don’t think we can easily get from this moment of holy outrage to legitimisation of violence in other circumstances . I don’t think it means it self-defence against Islam is not legitimate . For that, I think we have to go to Aquinas. But I’m not sure we get it from the gospel here.
@@DrGAshenden Thank you for your reply. I personaaly doubt our Lord flew into that rage because the sellers made it harder to access the temple. One can suspect our shopping at Christmas being harder to access stores than trying to access the temple. I think people have trouble trying to reconcile that behavior with the others. However Jesus said he was bringing the sword, a surprising thing when first exposed to it. I am not at all advocating violence but for for clear thought of mind and very strong resolve which is lacking when it comes to IS Jesus also said my people perish for lack of knowledge. A perfect exemple here with too many deluded about IS, just assuming it's simply another faith not bothering to verify when a few hours of reading is enough to wake you, let alone doing a deep-dive.
@@MarinaLaroche - I'm very sympathetic to your view. Does DrGA honestly believe that the best way to defend the UK against aggressive Islamification is to simply evangelise to the Muslims? LOL! Good luck with that!
@@wiseonwords Unfortunately, there appears to be very unfertile ground into the world today for the Word of God atm. I pray we are doing our Lord's will and that it changes. But His will be done regardless.
I was following and agreeing with everything you said. THEN you said we should convert Muslims to the Catholic church. Jesus didn't come to earth to set up a church but a body of Holy Spirit filled believers in Him.
When faced with a people who's overarching desire is this violent, unquenchable Quest for Empire, what do you do? Evangelize them? Are you serious? That time came and went for our generation, only God can save them now. When they come for the children in the West, then what? Oh wait, there aren't many children in the West anymore, are there? Oh wait again, that makes the few there are more precious than ever. What wouldn't you do to protect them? There's your real answer. There isn't always time for evangelizing and we have a duty to protect our own vulnerable people. The Muslims who occupy the West have not assimilated by choice, and by virtue of their numbers and not so far flung allies, they are not a vulnerable population. Holy War is not sinful when it's waged under provocation. I have zero intention of becoming Dhimmi. I usually enjoy your videos but your idea of submitting to Sharia law all the while praying for muslims to experience a change of heart, en masse, does not sound like much of a plan to me.
It will be as effective as 'therapy' for gays. That is why much of the christian realm ceased to exist. Faced between reality and fantasy via following the philosohopy of the three monkeys, they chose fantasy and fiction over truth, and faced the very real dire consequences of that choice. This philosophy of the three monkeys has its origins on the early church. Truth is the only way and it is a straight and narrow path indeed, that gives no quarter, but simply is what it is. Redemption is not forgiveness. It is an opportunity to right that which is wrong and undo that which was done. Redeem: Gain or regain possession of something in exchange for payment. What is 'regained' and what 'payment' is made ?
@@jenyoung2473 Exactly how many cheeks do you have ? Offering the other cheek, is meant to let your opponent know that they have a choice to repeat the same mistake....or not. Hopefully, they choose more wisely, given a second chance.
@@jenyoung2473 It is very difficult for christians to preech christiantiy, when there are no chirtsians left to preech ? At which point, how did Peter obey the words of Jesus on preserving the chuch ?
" Lord, I knew thee that thou art a hard man, reaping where thou hast not sown, and gathering where thou hast not strawed: And I was afraid, and went and hid thy talent in the earth"
Your 2 videos on this subject are so moving Gavin, you are absolutely correct, we Christians have failed to defend the faith sinking into anodyne niceness and relativism. We need to pray that we are ready to fight not with violence but with truth. God bless you.
I cannot agree that we can just accept sharia law in any form. The informal courts that are already here should not be allowed. What to do about the worrying tread of Islam in the UK from a Christian perspective is a really tricky issue I am trying to work out personally. But I do know that Jesus told us to protect the weak and tell the truth and stand up against corruption (when he cleared the temple), which means the church should be apposing it with all their might. Islam is not true, in fact I think it might even be demonic if you study the quran, it is also a corruption in that they are presenting their allah as the same as our God which cannot be true based on my reading of the quran, what he commands and the behaviour of mohammed and a vast number or his most ardent followers in history all the way up to today. And it is our children who will suffer in the future, along with all other minority groups (study the current muslim dominated societies) and women if we don't do something robust about this now.
Great points about presenting Jesus to Muslims and letting them decide. I am reminded of JP II's common refrain when he was a priest. He is said to have counseled many people from all walks of life, but when talking about their problems he would never give them any preferred course of action. He would simply lay out all the facts and tell the person "You must decide. You can do this, or you can do that". This appears to have had a remarkable effect on the parishioners he was counseling, and once the matter was left in their hands, they invariably came to the right decision. (See George Weigel's Biography of JP II) His counsel had much more effect than it would have had Father Wojtyla told them what to do. We should have an active program to evangelize the Muslims in Britain. But just offer them the choice.
You need to bring back Christian assemblies in schools. That way Muslims get exposure to the difference. I imagine most Muslims don't know an accurate history of his violence in Medina. Think of the Tibetans, prayer didn't work for them.
I disagree that as a Christian, we cannot fight against evil. Maybe if evil is done to us ourselves individually, we should turn the other cheek. But if injustice and evil threatens to take over and hurt other people, I think we are called to defend those impacted by it. If necessary by force.
Evangelization is the answer because every human being is a sinner and cannot save himself or herself so everyone is in need of Jesus Christ who is the only Saviour of mankind. Evangelization happens when Christians witness their supernatural Faith in Jesus Christ who is present in His Church offering the grace of repentance, the gift of forgiveness and the reconciliation of everyone to God and to one another.
All of you fight-with-prayer-only Christians here are seriously misleading yourselves. By all means fight with prayer, but not with prayer alone! That's just like "faith alone", you need works, sometimes those works include physically battling your enemies. Is it really your view that it's loving our enemies if we support them in their tyrannical actions by our lack of forceful resistance? Wouldn't it be better if we remove that option from them before they commit such harm?
Thank you, though I have the usual concern about Catholicism, e.g. introduce moslem converts to the (Roman) Catholic church? No, not necessarily, the Church is wider and deeper and had many valid expressions, whether orthodox, established, a denomination a movement or stream.
Very interesting. I didn’t know about this phenomenon of many Muslims in closed countries experiencing dreams of Jesus. Coincidental to finding this video, I was curious as to why, to the best of my memory, I’ve never dreamt of Jesus, Mary, or any other Christian figure. Just… curious.
I appreciate the passionate and realistic prognosis and ideas for the future. However I do not believe there is no longer a hope of conservative culture returning, and I become very nervous when anyone resorts to primarily or wholly trust in prayer or hoping followers of a totalitarian religion whose gospel requires apostates to be slaughtered will convert. It just won't happen. You don't need to be aggressive or promote violent conflict to say that you will not change your country, your law, or tolerate the barbaric norms of Islam. And if the seemingly ever-increasing numbers of young Muslims who demand England change her laws are by definition unable to live in a country that will not, they are the ones who will be forced to violence or other crimes, or leave. That is what must happen and we must make more of a stand then prayer. Apologies if I sound like I am diminishing the civilized and noble instinct of doing that, however. God bless us all
It is not directly related to the content of this video. However over a year ago I made reference in a You tube comment to Dr Ashenden's resignation as Queen's Chaplin and an Epiphany service that had taken place at Glasgow cathedral. Anyway a few days ago I got a notification of a fresh comment response from someone saying 'As a priest in training I can assure you that that did not happen, the Quran was not read in church by a Muslim. A Muslim (the priminister) did read, but it was most definatley not from the Quran. Also this man did not resign, he changed denomination. Please get your facts right' I tried to respond to this by sending without comment the source links to several articles from the BBC, Telegraph, and Independent to show that my facts were right. But my responses just kept being removed. I think the channel admin at Premier Unbelievable deleted my response. I don't get why they would now desire to suppress the fact that Dr Ashenden and others were incensed that a verse from the Quran flatly refuting Gospel claims had been recited in a church. Other than to pretend that there's no conflict or that there's no binary irreducible choice between the two faiths. That it it doesn't matter and is not important if faith is expressed through Islam or Christianity. Whatever floats your personal boat as it were.
@@shortferalreally appreciate your insightful exegesis, but , with respect Dr Ashenden’s call for Christians to seek again that holiness without which no one can see God and which he uses to convert unbelievers might be seen as a call to rebuild a spiritual temple, might it not?
Son of God who rose from the dead.... or a dead false prophet . LOL That is not a choice it is God's judgement. Foregone conclusion. God is good....and Yeshua said...you will know them by their fruits. All true.
Praying for the conversion of the Muslims and indeed a conversion of lukewarm Christian’s … placing it all in Jesus hands and in the immaculate heart of Our Blessed Lady .
In Jesus name.
Well said. Our Lady's Immaculate Heart will triumph.
There is still only one truth. I couldn’t agree more, when you highlight our priority as Christians. We are, after all citizens of Heaven, sojourners in a foreign land ourselves. May the Lord grant us the peace and grace to bring others to repentance and salvation in Jesus Christ.
The first step in overcoming any problem,
is to recognise and accept that you have one.
Our journey has now begun.
Ther is a branch of eschatology full of prophecies of the west falling to islam. The signs of this will be islam in power in france before the great monarch
It has to be said, here in France the statistics for Mass attendance, first Communions, ordinations etc... absolutely nose dived in the sixties, particularly 1965, a mass exodus (no pun intended ) The French turned their backs on God so to speak, and in huge numbers embraced the sexual revolution, contraception etc. Certainly can't blame the Muslims there, are they simply filling a religious vacuum ? Last year in this country, the birth rate was 45000 babies lower, compared to 2022, which was apparently low also. And when I see my native Ireland jumping on the bandwagon...brave new modern Ireland. heart breaking.
Yes, the renunciation of God, or renunciation of the Church accelerated through the sixties. It was a fascinating thing to witness and much could be said but above all, there was practically no resistance, no dynamic response. Everybody (or 90+%) lay and clergy lost faith.
I knew exactly nobody who was searching for God, or the meaning of life etc, look to the church or Christianity for the solution.
There are very very few "learned" men, reflective and zealous, discerning and courageous. Even rarer is the holy man, the saint, penetrative, incorruptible and wise. Like Zadoc the learned and scrupulous high priest on the one hand, and Nathan the prophet on the other.
The saints are the roots that carry nourishment from the silent world of dark damp earth to the tree swaying in sun, air and rain. It would seem that we the tree, are just leaning against something rather than standing on it's roots.
@@hazchemel Totally, and much could be said regarding the quality, or lack rather, of our Bishops, Europe and USA. But I won't start, I won't know when to stop....
@@johnharkness6304 yeah hahaha
It really makes me wonder if this if the great falling away spoken of in Thessalonians. I find it also interesting that is basically coincides with gathering of the Jews into the land.
Train for the next Lepanto with sword (Rosary) in hand!
Great to listen to Dr Ashenden.
Amazing! Your commentary is so very insightful. You speak truth. God bless you.
Brilliant. Thank you.
Gavin, thank you for your moral and spiritual clarity, courage, and determination to uncover and declare the truth. Based on my five years experience of living and working in North West Pakistan, a very conservative muslim culture, all you say rings true. Post-modern relativism of our ruling elites renders us incapable of seeing Islam for what it really is and of understanding its incompatibility to our culture. And yes, Jesus will have us pray for Muslims, who, as you say, are like all humanity made in the image of God. But we need to express hard truths about Islam.
In 2 Chronicle's 14:11 when faced with an army of million Ethiopians, king Asa prays "Lord, there is no one beside Thee to help in the battle between the powerful and those who have no strength; so help us, O Lord our God, for we trust in Thee, and in Thy name have come against this multitude. O Lord, Thou art our God; let not man prevail against Thee." The rest is history. I must believe that, with the most faith one can muster and a simple, well-articulated prayer, miracles can happen. In the end, though, I don't know precisely where we are in the Biblical timeline. End times? Perhaps. If so, we as Christians may be subject to an ever-growing, unrelenting darkness until we're extricated. In the meantime, my chant is "Courage Christian ... Courage!" LOLOL
Yahweh behaves like allah and creates evil like allah and is a god of cruel conquest. Nothing lime Jesus.
Thank you. Your reminder at the end made my day much better 🙏. You're right, of course, we'd like a comfortable life, but what matters ultimately is where we end up.
Thanks for the gee-up, Dr Ashenden. Much appreciated.
Dr Ashenden thank you for your outspokenness, positivity, and for pointing a way forward for us as Christians. I have for a long time recognised the growing power of Islam in our country together with the demise of Christianity, in fact Christianity is held in contempt with Christians being told to stop evangelising on our streets as they are upsetting people. Where are our Christian Church leaders - they are silent! This sends a strong message to me that they have given up! How depressing! You are right about God’s Spirit powerfully at work in the world, particularly in Iran where many mosques have closed. I have also listened to the witness of Muslim men and women who have had amazing dreams where Jesus came to them and they subsequently converted to Christianity even though their families rejected them for this. It reminds me of the prophecy from the prophet Joel “And afterward, I will pour out my Spirit on all people. Your sons and daughters will prophesy, your old men will will dream dreams, your young men will see visions”. I agree with you that we must pray. I believe God is almighty and He will work this out.
Many thanks for your calm and spiritual response to what is oftentimes a terrifying prospect!
You are so right in linking Marx, and Mohammed. Communism, and Islam are 2 of the 3 great fundamental, anti-Catholic forces extant in the World today. Our third gravest threat has largely been responsible for propagating both of these ideologies throughout the West, and helping them gain a foothold. Most people, and especially those on the Left, believe that Marx was an atheist. He wasn't. He believed in God full well, and hated him because of some early experiences in his own life where he didn't get what he wanted. As Catholics, we understand the meaning, and need for suffering. Christ said for us to take up our crosses and join him. Marx, because he was denied the object of his affection decided to wage war on God. His poetry reveals an underlying desire to storm Heaven and dethrone God. As this would never be possible, he undertook a plan, like Satan before him, to deprive souls of their Heavenly reward. He invented a quixotic ideology that was never meant to be functional, or beneficial, but instead was entirely hedonistic, and materialistic, therefore seductive, and alluring. It required nothing other than surrender to our most base impulses, and contained a poison seed at its core. It was meant to sever our connection to our soul, and the institution that existed to preserve that aspect of ourselves, the Catholic Church. Is it any wonder then how thoroughly saturated our culture is in sexual perversion, and every anti-Christian, anti-Family, anti-Natal inclination is elevated as a new sacrament? Our world is so sensual, and imbued with luxury, and self gratification to the point where it has been able to penetrate the clergy itself, suiting Marx's ultimate agenda. He will never gain his revenge on God, but he and his ilk, again like Satan before him, will settle for robbing souls of their Heavenly reward.
Thanks from Ireland, We are next❤🙏🙏
Thank you Dr. Ashenden & may we all take prayer much more seriously for without it, we are depriving ourselves of the power to change human hearts of the Lord Jesus in our walk of faith.
Revelation 20:4 "I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for the testimony of Jesus and for the word of God, and those who had not worshipped the Beast or its image and had not received its mark on their foreheads or their hands."
This is our future and Islam follows the false prophet and the Beast. Jesus said we would know them by their fruits.Look what they have done to Israeli women, children, babies, elderly people. They will do the same to all of us. The writing is on the wall and in the Book of Revelation. Stand firm with God and Jesus Christ and save your soul.
Thank you Monsignor 🙏
Ashenden is a lay Catholic, not a Monsignor.
Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass.
Yahweh is a warlord god too
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Yes Dr Ashenden is such a gift to the Church 🙏
@@wendyfield7708Wish they would make him one and make use of all his priestly qualities and enormous experience.
Truth is like a set of spanners for which only one, and one only, will fit the nut. All the rest look similar and look as though they might do the job, but ultimately are useless, because they are not an exact match.
The fallen world is the nut, and Jesus Christ is the spanner. He has loosened the nut of all humanity lost in Adam, and he individually loosens the nut of our own individual lives. Only he can loosen the grip of the essential darkness in our souls and free us for eternal life with him in heaven. All the other spanners are a waste of time picking up, unless, of course, you are going through each one in your search for truth in the hope of eventually finding Him!!
Our western, European society has picked up almost every other spanner and attempted to justify its trust in them, whilst, in the face of reason, laying down, even throwing away, the only one that they really need.
Unfortunately they do it in the name of "peace "
@@robertsharonbonaretti2525 Exactly. Matthew 10:34-36 Peace is a particular spiritual by-product of faith in Christ, given by God. Moderns treat it like candy, wrapped up in rainbow coloured paper and handed out with an engaging smile to anyone from anywhere.
But Jesus had a fit at the Temple and threw out the sellers of goods. He did not wait, he did not pray for them to leave, nor asked them to leave. He took action at a grave time which is the times we're in.
Yes, this is entirely true. But I think the characteristic of this encounter in the temple is that it is our Lords justified rage at the process of making worship less accessible ordinary person in Jerusalem, and making money rapaciously on the back of it. I think the circumstances of the violence were unique. He overturned the tables he didn’t damage the merchants.
I don’t think we can easily get from this moment of holy outrage to legitimisation of violence in other circumstances .
I don’t think it means it self-defence against Islam is not legitimate . For that, I think we have to go to Aquinas. But I’m not sure we get it from the gospel here.
@@DrGAshenden Thank you for your reply. I personaaly doubt our Lord flew into that rage because the sellers made it harder to access the temple. One can suspect our shopping at Christmas being harder to access stores than trying to access the temple. I think people have trouble trying to reconcile that behavior with the others. However Jesus said he was bringing the sword, a surprising thing when first exposed to it. I am not at all advocating violence but for for clear thought of mind and very strong resolve which is lacking when it comes to IS Jesus also said my people perish for lack of knowledge. A perfect exemple here with too many deluded about IS, just assuming it's simply another faith not bothering to verify when a few hours of reading is enough to wake you, let alone doing a deep-dive.
@@MarinaLaroche - I'm very sympathetic to your view. Does DrGA honestly believe that the best way to defend the UK against aggressive Islamification is to simply evangelise to the Muslims? LOL! Good luck with that!
@@wiseonwords Unfortunately, there appears to be very unfertile ground into the world today for the Word of God atm. I pray we are doing our Lord's will and that it changes. But His will be done regardless.
I was following and agreeing with everything you said. THEN you said we should convert Muslims to the Catholic church. Jesus didn't come to earth to set up a church but a body of Holy Spirit filled believers in Him.
Remember North Africa!
Profoundly true. God bless you back.
Gavin, chat with Sam Shamounian he is a very entertaining fellow and most informative about Islam.
Ayaan Hirsi Ali would be a good guest to have on your podcast Dr Ashenden.
Whilst society is drip fed the new "rules" they won't realise they are losing their freedoms
A realistic and sobering analysis.
When faced with a people who's overarching desire is this violent, unquenchable Quest for Empire, what do you do? Evangelize them? Are you serious? That time came and went for our generation, only God can save them now. When they come for the children in the West, then what? Oh wait, there aren't many children in the West anymore, are there? Oh wait again, that makes the few there are more precious than ever. What wouldn't you do to protect them? There's your real answer. There isn't always time for evangelizing and we have a duty to protect our own vulnerable people. The Muslims who occupy the West have not assimilated by choice, and by virtue of their numbers and not so far flung allies, they are not a vulnerable population. Holy War is not sinful when it's waged under provocation. I have zero intention of becoming Dhimmi. I usually enjoy your videos but your idea of submitting to Sharia law all the while praying for muslims to experience a change of heart, en masse, does not sound like much of a plan to me.
It will be as effective as 'therapy' for gays.
That is why much of the christian realm ceased to exist.
Faced between reality and fantasy via following the philosohopy of the three monkeys, they chose fantasy and fiction over truth, and faced the very real dire consequences of that choice.
This philosophy of the three monkeys has its origins on the early church.
Truth is the only way and it is a straight and narrow path indeed, that gives no quarter, but simply is what it is.
Redemption is not forgiveness.
It is an opportunity to right that which is wrong and undo that which was done.
Redeem: Gain or regain possession of something in exchange for payment.
What is 'regained' and what 'payment' is made ?
@@RuneRelic "Truth is the only way and it is a straight and narrow path indeed, that gives no quarter, but simply is what it is." Very well-said.
I am very torn do we turn our ploughshares into swords or turn the other cheek?
@@jenyoung2473 Exactly how many cheeks do you have ?
Offering the other cheek, is meant to let your opponent know that they have a choice to repeat the same mistake....or not.
Hopefully, they choose more wisely, given a second chance.
@@jenyoung2473 It is very difficult for christians to preech christiantiy, when there are no chirtsians left to preech ?
At which point, how did Peter obey the words of Jesus on preserving the chuch ?
Thankyou for posting this❤
The squeaky door is a little distracting. But still it’s something the whole world needs to hear. ❤
This reminds me of Xavier Reyes-Ayral's book, 'Rwvelations'.
" Lord, I knew thee that thou art a hard man, reaping where thou hast not sown, and gathering where thou hast not strawed: And I was afraid, and went and hid thy talent in the earth"
Wow, that took a hard left around 14:40.
Your 2 videos on this subject are so moving Gavin, you are absolutely correct, we Christians have failed to defend the faith sinking into anodyne niceness and relativism. We need to pray that we are ready to fight not with violence but with truth. God bless you.
Laocedian Church. Revelation 3.15
Yes Truth & the Love of God!
I cannot agree that we can just accept sharia law in any form. The informal courts that are already here should not be allowed. What to do about the worrying tread of Islam in the UK from a Christian perspective is a really tricky issue I am trying to work out personally. But I do know that Jesus told us to protect the weak and tell the truth and stand up against corruption (when he cleared the temple), which means the church should be apposing it with all their might. Islam is not true, in fact I think it might even be demonic if you study the quran, it is also a corruption in that they are presenting their allah as the same as our God which cannot be true based on my reading of the quran, what he commands and the behaviour of mohammed and a vast number or his most ardent followers in history all the way up to today. And it is our children who will suffer in the future, along with all other minority groups (study the current muslim dominated societies) and women if we don't do something robust about this now.
Great points about presenting Jesus to Muslims and letting them decide. I am reminded of JP II's common refrain when he was a priest. He is said to have counseled many people from all walks of life, but when talking about their problems he would never give them any preferred course of action. He would simply lay out all the facts and tell the person "You must decide. You can do this, or you can do that". This appears to have had a remarkable effect on the parishioners he was counseling, and once the matter was left in their hands, they invariably came to the right decision. (See George Weigel's Biography of JP II) His counsel had much more effect than it would have had Father Wojtyla told them what to do. We should have an active program to evangelize the Muslims in Britain. But just offer them the choice.
You need to bring back Christian assemblies in schools. That way Muslims get exposure to the difference. I imagine most Muslims don't know an accurate history of his violence in Medina.
Think of the Tibetans, prayer didn't work for them.
I disagree that as a Christian, we cannot fight against evil. Maybe if evil is done to us ourselves individually, we should turn the other cheek. But if injustice and evil threatens to take over and hurt other people, I think we are called to defend those impacted by it. If necessary by force.
Evangelization is the answer because every human being is a sinner and cannot save himself or herself so everyone is in need of Jesus Christ who is the only Saviour of mankind. Evangelization happens when Christians witness their supernatural Faith in Jesus Christ who is present in His Church offering the grace of repentance, the gift of forgiveness and the reconciliation of everyone to God and to one another.
All of you fight-with-prayer-only Christians here are seriously misleading yourselves. By all means fight with prayer, but not with prayer alone! That's just like "faith alone", you need works, sometimes those works include physically battling your enemies. Is it really your view that it's loving our enemies if we support them in their tyrannical actions by our lack of forceful resistance? Wouldn't it be better if we remove that option from them before they commit such harm?
Thank you, though I have the usual concern about Catholicism, e.g. introduce moslem converts to the (Roman) Catholic church? No, not necessarily, the Church is wider and deeper and had many valid expressions, whether orthodox, established, a denomination a movement or stream.
Very interesting. I didn’t know about this phenomenon of many Muslims in closed countries experiencing dreams of Jesus. Coincidental to finding this video, I was curious as to why, to the best of my memory, I’ve never dreamt of Jesus, Mary, or any other Christian figure. Just… curious.
You don't need to.
Dr Ashenden,
How do you work through CCC 841?
I appreciate the passionate and realistic prognosis and ideas for the future. However I do not believe there is no longer a hope of conservative culture returning, and I become very nervous when anyone resorts to primarily or wholly trust in prayer or hoping followers of a totalitarian religion whose gospel requires apostates to be slaughtered will convert. It just won't happen.
You don't need to be aggressive or promote violent conflict to say that you will not change your country, your law, or tolerate the barbaric norms of Islam. And if the seemingly ever-increasing numbers of young Muslims who demand England change her laws are by definition unable to live in a country that will not, they are the ones who will be forced to violence or other crimes, or leave. That is what must happen and we must make more of a stand then prayer. Apologies if I sound like I am diminishing the civilized and noble instinct of doing that, however. God bless us all
It is not directly related to the content of this video. However over a year ago I made reference in a You tube comment to Dr Ashenden's resignation as Queen's Chaplin and an Epiphany service that had taken place at Glasgow cathedral.
Anyway a few days ago I got a notification of a fresh comment response from someone saying 'As a priest in training I can assure you that that did not happen, the Quran was not read in church by a Muslim. A Muslim (the priminister) did read, but it was most definatley not from the Quran.
Also this man did not resign, he changed denomination. Please get your facts right'
I tried to respond to this by sending without comment the source links to several articles from the BBC, Telegraph, and Independent to show that my facts were right. But my responses just kept being removed.
I think the channel admin at Premier Unbelievable deleted my response. I don't get why they would now desire to suppress the fact that Dr Ashenden and others were incensed that a verse from the Quran flatly refuting Gospel claims had been recited in a church. Other than to pretend that there's no conflict or that there's no binary irreducible choice between the two faiths. That it it doesn't matter and is not important if faith is expressed through Islam or Christianity. Whatever floats your personal boat as it were.
The comment removal is very insidious. A real way to invite disaster, to make it impossible for prescient ideas to be spoken.
Have you read the old testament? It makes Muhammad look like a saint by comparison.
Don’t vs they are written differently
Or neither, is that a third choice?
Portugal also conquered Islam.
‘Not by might or power, but by my Spirit , says the LORD Almighty’ (Zech 4.6).
That message refers to the rebuilding of a temple, not to the defense of a nation.
@@shortferalreally appreciate your insightful exegesis, but , with respect Dr Ashenden’s call for Christians to seek again that holiness without which no one can see God and which he uses to convert unbelievers might be seen as a call to rebuild a spiritual temple, might it not?
Add Buddha and minus one ☝️
Could all this be leading to or the start of CCC 675?
Son of God who rose from the dead.... or a dead false prophet . LOL That is not a choice it is God's judgement. Foregone conclusion. God is good....and Yeshua said...you will know them by their fruits. All true.