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  • @livingsimplyaustralia
    @livingsimplyaustralia  Рік тому +4

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    • @gurubalu6677
      @gurubalu6677 22 дні тому

      Living in sydney for 6 years any expensive suburbs in Melbourne is cheaper and way more affordable

  • @nickpapas1990
    @nickpapas1990 7 місяців тому +8

    LOVE CARLTON AND BRUNSWICK - in Melbourne's inner north . Wonderful and vibrant suburbs . SUPER COOL SUBURBS 😎🤩

  • @erickmoran4123
    @erickmoran4123 Рік тому +11

    Lovely video! I started following you when I was planing to move to Melbourne. Now I am in Australia and these videos are even more helpful now :)

    • @mce_AU
      @mce_AU Рік тому +1

      Welcome to Melbourne Erick. Your last name is the same as my mothers maiden name. She was from just outside Glasgow. Cheers mate.

  • @FionaEm
    @FionaEm Рік тому +18

    You've done a terrific job of showing inner Melbourne 😊 I love our city ❤

  • @SparkliOfficial
    @SparkliOfficial Рік тому +8

    Good to see her explore new ways of making these videos
    Really enjoyed this formate of irl exploration

  • @mateisweetspots
    @mateisweetspots Рік тому +14

    As a hobbyist photographer for some time I really did appreciate both the quality and the quantity of the many angles filmed! While I'm grateful to be living in London (and while the rain is not the problem) the lack of brightness in the air does start to be on my mind much more often 😭 Thank you for your work! 💛🧡

  • @martinberwanger4928
    @martinberwanger4928 Рік тому +4

    wonderful as always Martina! try to make a video about sports in Melbourne: tennis courts, sailing, swimming, rock climbing, fishing, flying, rowing, etc.

  • @laknirala8248
    @laknirala8248 9 місяців тому +5

    Beautiful inner suburbs of Melbourne are explained nicely, it would be nicer if you could mention few beautiful outer suburbs of Melbourne as well.

  • @victoridiodemise
    @victoridiodemise Рік тому +4

    Thank you for the amazing detailed review.. definitely do more on other suburbs

  • @malcolmwarner589
    @malcolmwarner589 8 місяців тому +2

    A well presented video of my home city. Just a few comments especially to respond to those already posted. Melbourne is not always grey, in fact this video was posted on a clear blue winters day it seems. Melbourne does have challenging weather, but it's mild with the exception of the occasional heat wave. No climate is perfect, in fact I live mostly in the Asian tropics and the 4 month long wet season is hideous with its off the scale humidity. Fact : Melbourne has much less annual rainfall than Sydney.
    This video was deliberately focused on the livability of CBD and inner suburbs (although sadly the west was committed)
    I used to live in Albert Park for 20+ years, so St Kilda was my playground. Currently I live in Fitzroy (on the Carlton border) and wouldn't live anywhere else. South Yarra has never been a favourite, I personally find it bland and homogenised (Richmond is much more interesting)
    All these places are blessed with huge parks and public spaces, well served by different modes of public transport.
    And yes it is expensive, the price you pay for all these conveniences.
    In summary, we all have different preferences and needs. As a retiree of 70, I would move back to Melbourne in a heartbeat.

  • @karlhoward2737
    @karlhoward2737 Рік тому +6

    If I could I’d move to Melbourne in a blink….plan to stay for the warm months there to escape the horrible wet winters in Europe…..

    • @stussysinglet
      @stussysinglet Рік тому

      Where are you from? England?

    • @karlhoward2737
      @karlhoward2737 Рік тому +2

      @@stussysinglet ….I live on a very storm battered island of Jersey…..winter storms all the time….hence why in a few years time I will spend my days down under, in Melbourne…..cheers

    • @Fellowtraveller2
      @Fellowtraveller2 Рік тому

      @@karlhoward2737I always thought Jersey was an ideal place,with warm Gulf Stream waters and an affluent population, and no unemployment etc.
      Why would you want to leave that. Also, isn’t it the case that it’s very hard to get residency to live in Jersey?
      Incidentally, I live in Melbourne.

    • @jjjddd231
      @jjjddd231 10 місяців тому

      If I could I'd move to Europe in a blink. There is no culture of note in Australia. There is no cuisine of note in Australia. The people are for the most part unsophisticated, uncivilised and many are extremely rough around the edges. There is increasing levels of crime everywhere and none of the main cities are safe after dark. The summer heat in many parts is absolutely brutal. In the southern states, swimming in the beaches means you are shark bait. Do yourself a huge favour and abandon any thought of moving to Australia. There are so many incredible and infinitely better European locations for you to consider, especially on the Mediterranean.

    • @karlhoward2737
      @karlhoward2737 10 місяців тому

      @@Fellowtraveller2 hi….my island is not too bad if I am honest, we do have unemployment, cost of living is very high, we have over 200,000 cars on the 9 by 5 mile island, so it’s busy….houses are utterly silly prices, £900,000 for a three bedroom semi….you have to qualify to buy here, used to be 25 years…now it’s 10 years residence in rental, also expensive…wish my island was less UK looking and more France looking, being so close to our Gallic friends….plus sides…great surf, great summer weather, great beaches, great walks…..worst thing, very personal, bloody horrible long cold stormy wet winters…..hence my yearning to spend time in Melbourne…..nowhere is perfect for sure….we are to be honest all lucky we do live without fear…..anyway, that’s my answer….nice place……but…….

  • @YogirajGraham
    @YogirajGraham 26 днів тому

    I don't think South Yarra could be beat in Melbourne. So central, lovely, green, welcoming, fun.

  • @abdulrhmanalosaimi855
    @abdulrhmanalosaimi855 2 місяці тому +2

    Residential area Carlton Was A greet for student or Famliy I Agree 🎉

  • @giathangbui2064
    @giathangbui2064 Рік тому +2

    Hi Martina,
    Love your video.
    Thanks so much for your great work.
    Cheers,
    Thang

  • @melsmithmel
    @melsmithmel Рік тому +3

    Brunswick is a vibe .. some people have an attitude as it keeps suburban people away …😂 I love it

  • @HuyNguyen-tk9iw
    @HuyNguyen-tk9iw Рік тому +2

    Great video! More suburbs please :D

  • @JordyJayHomer
    @JordyJayHomer Рік тому +2

    Nice XB Coupe at 16:13 😄

  • @Mr.G-z9t
    @Mr.G-z9t 2 місяці тому

    Next video: Bayside; Sandringham, Black Rock, Brighton, Highett, Mordialloc, Mentone, Beaumaris. And then, Mornington, Mt.Martha...

  • @tararevell
    @tararevell Рік тому +4

    Thank you so much for all the great information! I would love to see a video on Brighton, Hampton, and Elwood.

  • @catherineduc
    @catherineduc 9 місяців тому

    If you like living by the bay, a more cost effective alternative would be towards the west such as Altona or Mordialloc and beyond.

  • @samuelaraujo9959
    @samuelaraujo9959 3 місяці тому

    What a great video. Thank you so much for all of your hard work on this. I got curious: what neighborhood offers easy access to theaters, venues, and night clubs? I see St. Kilda has a lot of bars and venues, but I wonder it also has all of the night clubs.

  • @MichaelCardin7337
    @MichaelCardin7337 Місяць тому

    this was a great video and very informative

  • @honeybee2699
    @honeybee2699 Рік тому

    Great video! 👍🥰 Wonderful views, the movie is bursting with colours and interesting city sites. I really appreciate your outstanding work and lots of effort put to make it 👍🥰 Thank you 🥰🌷

  • @sandunimadushika2785
    @sandunimadushika2785 Рік тому +1

    Very important video.thank you very much

  • @enpofficial
    @enpofficial Рік тому

    Amazing video

  • @AnkosLoveSlave
    @AnkosLoveSlave 20 днів тому

    You say inner city Melbourne and throw in South Yarra, St Kilda and Southbank. What about suburbs like South Melbourne (which Southbank use to be apart of), Albert Park, Middle Park and Port Melbourne which are just as close to the CBD?

  • @nucleartux
    @nucleartux Рік тому

    Good job. I'm waiting for more videos!

  • @anuphanchuenchom2060
    @anuphanchuenchom2060 Рік тому

    Good video, if you increase narrative sound it will be lots better 😊

  • @jacandyoung
    @jacandyoung 10 місяців тому

    simply good video! well done!

  • @sandystockholm74
    @sandystockholm74 Рік тому +4

    Hello and thanks for another great video! I would really love to see a video on other more family friendly suburbs to consider, still offering good coffee spots, restaurants but also kid friendly places and parks. I’ve lived in Sydney for 8 years and am now back in Europe but would like to move to Melbourne with my 5 year old 😊 but we’re on a budget of max 500$ pw. I’ve considered areas such as Brunswick or because of school choice Caulfield and surrounding suburbs. Thanks in advance! 😊

    • @Michael-AUS
      @Michael-AUS Рік тому +1

      In my opion, Parkville is a great place. Lots of parks and kid friendly. It's next to Carlton and city CBD as well (which are featured in this video).

    • @mizmelbourne
      @mizmelbourne Рік тому

      All the suburbs shown here have a large number of 1 bedroom apartments. Australians typically don’t live in 1 bedroom apartments - this is aimed at people who are passing through Melbourne for a short period of time who haven’t put down roots (once you have a partner and/or children/pets you won’t fit in a 1 bedroom apartment any more)!

    • @bendavies6775
      @bendavies6775 Рік тому +1

      Have a look at Clifton Hill as well as Brunswick

  • @genkifd
    @genkifd 9 місяців тому +3

    i believe these suburbs are popular to though who actually visting Melbourne. Not for the people who actually live in Melbourne

  • @georgelykousis3109
    @georgelykousis3109 10 місяців тому +1

    😂hi yeah Melbourne is a great city I visit every year for the tennis 🎾 I have always gone to these , towns nice video good information

  • @BeFitWithAzad
    @BeFitWithAzad 11 місяців тому

    Please make a video on the suburbs easy to commute to CBD and safer for a family.

  • @alejandromuniz4162
    @alejandromuniz4162 7 місяців тому

    what kind of ASMR is this, i loved it

  • @ronthornton3466
    @ronthornton3466 9 місяців тому +1

    Melbourne is the best progressive place on the planet. It's visionary.

  • @exploreearth6275
    @exploreearth6275 10 місяців тому

    Really cool video

  • @gurubalu6677
    @gurubalu6677 22 дні тому

    Brighton
    Carlton
    South Yarra
    Richmond
    Yarraville seems nice ❤

  • @ADDICTb2st
    @ADDICTb2st Рік тому +1

    Can you also do regional areas??

  • @bhaskarkanchibhotla5672
    @bhaskarkanchibhotla5672 2 місяці тому

    very nice. thank you.

  • @melsmithmel
    @melsmithmel Рік тому +1

    Avoid Cranbourne- Pakenham!!!

  • @akashgjoshi
    @akashgjoshi Рік тому +2

    Lol. How is almost every image in this video so sunny? Melbourne weather is mostly grey.
    It doesn't seem to be an honest representation of Melbourne at all. Seems like a marketing video.

    • @TheLostProbe
      @TheLostProbe Рік тому +1

      maybe because it's a warmer and sunnier season

  • @sharonchau
    @sharonchau 6 місяців тому

    Melbourne, I am coming back soon!!

  • @mariomajoos547
    @mariomajoos547 10 місяців тому

    Hi my name is Mario from South Africa. I watch your very informative videos and it's a great guideline.
    How do I get in contact with you for more indepht infomation on Preston Area in Melbourne.
    I might move there soon and I would like more information on the surrounding areas.

  • @nolaj114
    @nolaj114 2 місяці тому

    What's the vibe in Maribyrnong /Braybrook areas?

  • @TanhaJinnatRima
    @TanhaJinnatRima Рік тому

    Can you please make a video like this in NSW?

  • @kitty-gr3eh
    @kitty-gr3eh Рік тому +4

    expensive suburbs not everyone has that budget

  • @MsBrownEyedGirl96
    @MsBrownEyedGirl96 Рік тому

    Would appreciate advice on suburbs for families with small children, activities/safety wise. Near work in Collingwood:)

    • @gillianwatt7421
      @gillianwatt7421 Рік тому +1

      I'd advise moving to a suburb along the either the Hurstbridge or Epping train lines which would give you public transport access to Collingwood. Macloed is a cute suburb with a village feel. Or further out there is Eltham which has a bush vibe but it is quite a long way out.

    • @judileeming1589
      @judileeming1589 Рік тому

      $ price for renting or buying doesn’t just depends on the property size. School zones can be a major factor. Good public (government) schools can save parents tens of thousands of dollars in private school fees. A lot of $smart parents rent or buy in a particular zone for the first four years of a child’s Secondary education and save their money to put their child into a top private school for the final two years to raise their chances of achieving a place at a preferred University. It’s a strategy some are prepared to take but still depends on the student achieving a good VCE score. University places depend on availability and overseas students, especially Asian students, pay a lot of money to attend Australian universities so competition for placement in some subjects is strong. Melbourne has over 280K students attending our 8 Universities spread out over many campuses. There are over 1K suburbs so research will be important if you have higher education expectations for your children. In conjunction with our Universities we also have TAFE colleges that provide vocational training and there are trade schools. I can’t speak to housing around Collingwood because I live in the outer Eastern suburbs. Each suburb will have play grounds, sporting facilities and parks and gardens. Child care and kindergarten placements are something I can’t tell you anything about as I have been the provider of childcare in my family of my grandchildren. I hope this info helps.

  • @wilbotgeek1999
    @wilbotgeek1999 Рік тому

    Thanks for the video.
    Hope to find out more about st Kilda.
    Do make more videos in Melbourne

  • @alexlanning712
    @alexlanning712 Рік тому

    welcoming background music

  • @chuckmaddison2924
    @chuckmaddison2924 9 місяців тому

    For a start I wouldn't live in Melbourne, Sydney and even Adelaide is doubtful.
    The best places in the country are Brisbane, Darwin and Perth..
    Clean , friendly and not pretentious.
    Adelaide is something else.

    • @chuckmaddison2924
      @chuckmaddison2924 9 місяців тому

      @@emmmy6007 I have suggested to the wife. Main reason in New Zealand there is no discrimination against the old people when it's pension age.
      In Australia if you have a few dollars you get nothing, not even a health card.

    • @AussieDave69
      @AussieDave69 3 місяці тому

      Just come back from Darwin it smells like urine so disappointing it used to be wonderfull

    • @chuckmaddison2924
      @chuckmaddison2924 3 місяці тому

      @AussieDave69 That's sad , dad was involved with the designing for rebuilding after Tracey.

  • @পথিক-ঘ৮য
    @পথিক-ঘ৮য 4 місяці тому

    Come to say hello at Noble Park

  • @manyuhahulisani2091
    @manyuhahulisani2091 10 місяців тому

    This is the state i want to relocate to from South Africa, hopefully next year my dream will come true💯💯😄😄....
    What are the requirements needed to migrate there and to obtain permanent residency.?

  • @zainabhussain9560
    @zainabhussain9560 Рік тому

    Great video! I’ll be arriving in Melbourne on a WHV in November, so this has really helped me understand the differences of suburbs, I love the look of south yarra and st Kilda, hope I can find accom in my budget 🥹

  • @Sdffffgd
    @Sdffffgd Рік тому

    From india 🇮🇳 ♥

  • @Mr.J_aust
    @Mr.J_aust 6 місяців тому

    Anyone please reply.. whats the difference between suburbs and regional areas? Thanks ❤

    • @PatracatsOtherPlace-js2wy
      @PatracatsOtherPlace-js2wy 5 місяців тому +1

      Suburbs are the 'towns' around the Melbourne Central Business district. People who work in the CBD usually commute from the surrounding suburbs. Regional areas are small cities or large towns in the countryside of Victoria that are not near Melbourne CBD.

    • @Mr.J_aust
      @Mr.J_aust 5 місяців тому +1

      @@PatracatsOtherPlace-js2wy thanks for the neat reply

    • @PatracatsOtherPlace-js2wy
      @PatracatsOtherPlace-js2wy 5 місяців тому

      @@Mr.J_aust You are very welcome! I did wonder if you would see it after a month with no replies!

    • @Mr.J_aust
      @Mr.J_aust 5 місяців тому

      @@PatracatsOtherPlace-js2wy lol.. you're reply is very useful.. thanks again

  • @bing5001
    @bing5001 Рік тому

    how cold does it get in melbourne and does it snow ?

    • @prisciiiii_
      @prisciiiii_ Рік тому

      Hello bing, Im from Singapore are you from Australia?

    • @Dave_Sisson
      @Dave_Sisson 10 місяців тому +3

      Winter days usually have a minimum of about 6 degrees and a maximum of about 12 or 14. It used to snow occasionally in Melbourne, but it does not any more, although there are ski resorts nearby that are an easy day trip.

    • @EyepopTheSailorMan
      @EyepopTheSailorMan 9 місяців тому +2

      Snow in metropolitan Melbourne is almost a once-in-a-lifetime freak event near sea level -- approximately never a thing. Though peaks on the city fringe (maybe 600m+ altitude) can get a light dusting a few times per winter. Australians like to complain about Melbourne winters but frankly you can get away with little more than a t-shirt a fair proportion of the time :).

  • @PeachythePicker
    @PeachythePicker Рік тому

    Would hate to live in any of those places. Would be a small tiny apartment, noise, smog, traffic and overpriced. Not sure why anyone besides a student would want to live there

  • @EdBarton31
    @EdBarton31 8 місяців тому

    No locals with family would stay in the CBD long term. Worst place to raise kids. Just for tourists, students and migrant workers.

  • @prisciiiii_
    @prisciiiii_ Рік тому

    Melbourne is very beautiful 😊 Nice environment ☺ thanks for sharing this beautiful vedio 😍

  • @RootedMate
    @RootedMate Рік тому +3

    Melbourne's weather absolutely sucks

    • @barnowl.
      @barnowl. Рік тому +2

      I love the VARIETY of it.

    • @RootedMate
      @RootedMate Рік тому

      @@barnowl. lived there for 35 years and never liked the worst weather in Australia

  • @pritu87
    @pritu87 Рік тому

    Very nice video..thanks for the info..would be great if you can share suburbs around Monash Clayton campus for family

  • @MichaelCardin7337
    @MichaelCardin7337 Місяць тому

    AUSSIE AUSSIE AUSSIE
    OY OY OY

  • @EstherSonya
    @EstherSonya Рік тому

    Anyone could advise me about housing in Aus. Does it high cost to spend?

  • @Aaron_Cross
    @Aaron_Cross Рік тому

    Doggo @ 15:44 :)

  • @cressida00
    @cressida00 Рік тому +2

    South Yarra all the way baby!

  • @russisland164
    @russisland164 11 місяців тому

    Nice Video BUT never play music whilst people are talking or narrating. The music competes with the spoken word for your brains' attention and makes it harder to concentrate and comprehend what is being said. It is simply a distraction. Music can still be used, just not when there is the spoken word. This is the number rule for all documentaries professional or casual.

  • @magorzatapacut6828
    @magorzatapacut6828 Рік тому +1

    To piękne miasto.Pozdrawiam mieszkańców i mojego kuzyna John P z rodziną.

  • @ShanakaBandara-tb7kd
    @ShanakaBandara-tb7kd Рік тому

    Hi mate, informative video as always, I really appreciate if you can make a video about NSW regional areas too. Like "Best top 5 choices from NSW Regional". I think Wollongong also will include in that list. You can consider House rent, Job opportunities, Available facilities, Public Transport, Entertainment options, Community (Modern Natives, Aboriginals, Asians, Europeans, etc....), Crime rate/Safety matters, Hospitals/Doctors, Child care and Schools, Expenses (Utility bills, Fuel, Data & Voice), Internet Speed, etc......... Thanks again and waiting for your next..

  • @stufromoz8164
    @stufromoz8164 Рік тому

    What Frankston didnt get a mention?????

  • @My.Adidas.Stripes
    @My.Adidas.Stripes Рік тому

    I thought electric scooters were banned in Melbourne

    • @TheLostProbe
      @TheLostProbe Рік тому +1

      there's hireable electric scooters everywhere, not sure what you're talking about

  • @junle5162
    @junle5162 Рік тому +4

    the city looks pretty dead quiet compared to 2018

    • @TheLostProbe
      @TheLostProbe Рік тому

      yeah, that's what COVID did. nowadays it can get really busy but it's never reached pre-COVID levels

  • @MichaelCardin7337
    @MichaelCardin7337 Місяць тому

    i like it

  • @manojbeniwal001
    @manojbeniwal001 Рік тому +1

  • @Susan-md6nd
    @Susan-md6nd Рік тому +2

    The modern buildings, have ruined Melbourne😢 They should have been designed, to fit in with our Victorian culture. I haven't walked around Melbourne, since 2002.

  • @InnocentMicheal20
    @InnocentMicheal20 Рік тому +2

    I heard Melbourne is so expensive 😮

    • @FionaEm
      @FionaEm Рік тому +3

      The inner suburbs are generally expensive. Property gets cheaper the further away you get from the CBD (downtown) but public transport isn't as good.

  • @dublo5376
    @dublo5376 Місяць тому

    I identify as a young professional

  • @gouravsapra8142
    @gouravsapra8142 9 місяців тому

    Australia overall very expensive. I lived in Dubai. Its better and cheaper.

  • @DavidSweetnam
    @DavidSweetnam Рік тому

    No please not this music…otherwise nice pictures

  • @mal1760
    @mal1760 9 місяців тому

    St Kilda’s No.1.

  • @priyasvlogs6889
    @priyasvlogs6889 Рік тому

    Hey I have a question in Sydney/Australia do we find more reptiles mostly snakes ??

    • @PatracatsOtherPlace-js2wy
      @PatracatsOtherPlace-js2wy 5 місяців тому

      Snakes are rarely seen in the suburban areas of the capital cities. They are around but not in great numbers, and they keep out of the way of humans.

  • @bilalmanzoor6559
    @bilalmanzoor6559 Рік тому

    Hi dear

    • @bilalmanzoor6559
      @bilalmanzoor6559 Рік тому

      I apply a student visa in australia on march the 20th
      Now am confuse,plzz.. help me in this regard.

    • @bilalmanzoor6559
      @bilalmanzoor6559 Рік тому

      Because visa refused in case of migration act

    • @bilalmanzoor6559
      @bilalmanzoor6559 Рік тому

      Plz I suppose you as a my respectable sister, you can help me in this regard ,plz plz... am very anxious about visa refusal

  • @MelodyMan69
    @MelodyMan69 7 місяців тому +1

    Lived in Melbourne all my life and this vid is an Asians thoughts only. The inner suburbs are NOT for everybody. Australians still prefer a 'home life' with back yard and even a pool. The suburbs you mention here are for CONFINED ASIAN STYLE LIVING ONLY. That is NOT the majority of AUSTRALIANS.

    • @Windward535
      @Windward535 6 місяців тому +2

      That is funny because the suburbs mentioned in this video have some of the lowest Asian populations St Kilda in particular

  • @davidhamtaro
    @davidhamtaro Рік тому

    I lived in st kilda east for many years. Although all these places featured in the video is nice, just a word of caution: it’s not safe and lots of crimes and petty crimes happen all the time. Live at your own risk, the police are basically useless and even if caught the penalty is slap on the wrist.

  • @nikhithabalakrishnan7668
    @nikhithabalakrishnan7668 8 місяців тому

    Does anyone know about Clayton area

  • @mattwalsh1834
    @mattwalsh1834 Рік тому +6

    I would never look to live in those suburbs, i live in Melbourne. Stay away from them! Stay away from Richmomd also.

  • @barnowl.
    @barnowl. Рік тому

    A pox on e-scooters and the riders who speed, ignore road and FOOTPATH useage rules, are selfish and are a threat to the safety of pedestrians as well as to themselves. The sooner they are banned, the better for it. Also, there are over ONE THOUSAND suburbs to choose to live in, in Melbourne.

    • @Dave_Sisson
      @Dave_Sisson 10 місяців тому

      I agree, but pushbikes are far worse.

  • @markhill1471
    @markhill1471 Рік тому +4

    How about showing graffiti covered freeways, rubbish, graffiti on buildings. Drugs, car jackings, home invasions. Grey sky most of the year A long cold grey winter. Mean hostile power hungry government. Give it a miss. I moved to Sunshine Coast Queensland.

  • @ClareBarker-e7d
    @ClareBarker-e7d 8 місяців тому

    Melbourne 2024 is the pits. There are far better places to live in Australia. It now is Mumbai / Shanghai.

    • @thischubbyboislife7871
      @thischubbyboislife7871 7 місяців тому

      how is it either of those locations? Genuinely interested as looking to move.

  • @barbarakaye3368
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  • @jonathanbarone4708
    @jonathanbarone4708 11 місяців тому