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The whole Miami Grand Prix experience was... quite something! But for all it's wildly intense promotion, the race was not that exciting - but it's problems can be fixed and there's plenty to get excited for going forward at Miami!
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Here so early the video title was still “Miami Talking pts YT”
Same.
He done did it again
i have replied just to say i was also here
it's called formula 1 because each fan only knows one joke
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TV direction was dreadful this race. At one point it was nothing but Max driving around with no one around him for an entire lap while people were swapping positions left and right in the midfield. Absolutely infuriating seeing multiple cars with
Awesome observation! At one point the only reason I knew Hamilton moved up one place was the "scorecard" on the side
Im gonna re-watch that race again because I didn't think that was the case. Then again my brain could've just ignored it so im gonna re-watch it
Direction has been awful this whole season. We have seen moments were the director cuts away to a crowd shot DURING a takeover shot. It's absolutely mindboggling. Like, 'oh Leclerc is now side-by-side with Verstappen for 1st, let me just show this random mercedes fan drinking a beer'.
@@Lucade2210 The people want to see the man drink his beer
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@@Lucade2210 yeah that was terrible, the weird thing is to their credit they did cut perfectly to Lando and gasly before the crash so they obviously can get it right
Whoever's idea was to put Australia, Imola, Miami, Catalunya and Monaco in a row on the schedule must be a really funny person
You have to look at weather. That's literally the only time you can do those circuit and still have workable temperature at the track.
Azerbaijan in a double header with Canada and then heading to Silverstone also makes you scratch your head, when COTA and the Mexican GP were put next to one another.
@@Good_Horsey gotta work around the hurricane season in the south.
@@Good_Horsey and moving Canada down would have massive weather issues
@@trance9158 but f1 could have made miami-montreal double header and set azerbaijan standalone (or clubbed baku with any other middle east race)
Glad Chain Bear reminded me that I’m watching on YT 👍
As an American who's been watching since the 90s, it's bittersweet to see the popularity skyrocket. It's all based on the spectacle and has little do with racing. If you thought Miami looked cheap and fabricated, Vegas is essentially a giant tourist trap.
COAT and Indianapolis, pleaseeeee
My thoughts exactly, Mike. It's embarrassing.
@@TeamTwiistz yea, Miami did look like Miami - a fake, cringey shit hole as everyone expected.
I've seen the layout of many of the purpose built tracks in the US and the fact that they have been passed over for street tracks is a tragedy. Road America, Elkhart Lake, Watkins Glen, Daytona Road Course, all of these have superb layouts and are great for racing. Indeed, I remember Nigel Mansell comparing Road America to Spa Francorchamps, which is high praise indeed
@@SiVlog1989 You have to remember that most purpose built tracks in the US either don't have the safety rating or track layout/infrastructure that F1 wants. Those tracks would have to spend lots of money upgrading facilities, or changing their track layouts, all to please the biggest prima donna of motorsports. I genuinely have little faith that F1 could go to a place like Road America and not somehow ruin it.
The two ready-made road course alternatives are easily Daytona's international course and Indianapolis' road course, but F1 has been wary of banked ovals since 2005, and Indianapolis is hardly a "destination". F1 wants money and glamor, they want to go to high-profile locations that will pay or make them crap-loads of money. They aren't interested in events for the average race fan.
I’ve been waiting all day for Miami Talking pts YT!
On the Point of the missing tec-pro barrier:
The FIA actually investigated wether auch a barrier would be a Good idea at that specific corner. However they deemed it a Bad idea because such a Barrier (or any other barrier that would reduce impact forces) would have a high likeliehood to make the car bounce off the Wall and rebound into the track because of the corner specification.
This would then be a High risk of a car-to-car accident instead of a car and Wall accident which would be FAR More dangerous.
Because the speeds the cars reach at that Turn aren‘t very High to begin with, the FIA deemed it more safe to risk a few cars colliding with the Barrier rather than having a car bouncing back into Traffic and causing a huhge collision with far worse consequences.
Obviously though, the drivers disaggreed with the FIAs' assessment. Whom you believe to be right in this case is up to you, ultimately though there isn't a clear cut decision to be made.
You are right. Also they were not able to move the barriers further away because the track is build to the edge of the hard rock property. Anything that goes beyond the current barrier is property of the town so they are not able to move the barrier onto it.
If the "bouncing back onto the live track" being the issue of not putting a Tecpro, there's still an alternative to a concrete barrier in that section, and since we already in the US, it's such a perfect place to get actual SAFER barrier....
If that were the case then the tech pro at Russia turn 3 would have spat cars back out, but it didn't, think to Grosjeans 2015 shunt, or the 2020 and 2021 F2 shunts
Thats a very interesting point. I sure deem it safer to have a car-wall collision rather than a car on car collision.
@@ey7290 I am not an expert on these things but I think wether a Tecpro Barrier bounces cars back onto the track or wether it just stops them is dependend on the angle of the car at the moment of impact. From my understanding the angle with which cars would probably hit the wall at turn 14 in Miami during for example a wheel to wheel fight during the race is what makes it so likely that they would ricochet back onto the track. This dynamic appears to be different for turn 3 in Sochi (they would probably hit the wall at a much steeper angle and hence be more likely to get stuck in the barrier but again I am not an expert on this sort of thing I am just relaying information I read/heard about from the FIA).
While I completely agree about the tractors. But then as an ex Marshall I would say what about the guys out on track why don't we get a ultra slow zone? Going on track during a SC is still insanely scary
That should also be the case. Especially after Japan, i think the incident area must have a double waved yellow or a white flag to indicate that drivers must be ready to stop.
I was with the FIA on the jewellery ban until I read that watches and wedding rings are not banned/enforced under the ban, which is super hypocritical and makes me think that the new enforcement is aimed at Lewis specifically, with Seb even saying so.
yeah, because he's black...
Dude I mean it wasn’t the greatest race,, but we had leader get passed from the Driver who started 3rd on the grid … we had some pretty good midfield battles,, GR and Ocon on recovery drives who both recovered nicely … and then we had what everyone seems to want to make a good race nowadays a safety car… With Charles putting mega pressure on Max for a few laps,, not a bad little Sunday
It's amazing how F1 managed to go to Sochi without going to Russia. Without the safety car this would have been incredibly dull.
Totally on par that USA produces similar racing entertainment as Russia. They are essentially the same countries that chose to bomb other smaller countries.
Agreed, surprised Chain Bear sounded so optimistic about it. The lack of alternate racing lines was so painfully obvious, and that mistake generator was just the worst. To think people were calling it a potential Monaco killer... more like a Sochi replacement ffs. Mandatory resurface should be bare minimum for 2023 consideration.
I think the tv directors played a big Part in that too. There were heaps of great scraps but None of them were really shown live
@@mircoh.8367 agreed the tv director was awful this weekend
I enjoyed it better than the ones in Australia and Imola. There were good midfield battles, but they didn't show much of that. This race had 45 overtakes. It is the 2nd highest this year behind Bahrain (58) and 32 more than Imola but the tv didn't show that many. I used F1 TV and heard it had much better shots than ESPN or Sky.
Overhyped is the perfect way to sum up this weekend. It just made me feel like the flop that was the race seem far bigger as a result, the more they hyped it, the bigger the flop it has become. You can tell it's bad when cameras spend more time looking at the "threat" of rain than what little action there was on track (well, car park more accurately)
@@harrybirchall3308 TV direction was atrocious
TV direction was the main problem. And this track is far more than a car park track imo. There were some actual elevation changes on the track. The main issue was the surface which should hopefully be changed
The fact that this was race was hyped at all is a fabrication. All I've seen is cynicism even when it was first announced. And of course the predictable dig at the fact that it's used as a car park certain months of the year (which completely disregards the labor put into setting up the event in the first place). I hope you keep this same level of scrutiny and pessimism throughout the season.
@@woogaoogaboogafooga it was hyped, far too much. COTA, when it staged its first race in 2012 left a warm glow because it is close to Austin, Texas, to enable teams, drivers and fans to sample the Texan State Capital's city life. Being a purpose built venue and being inspired by features from other race tracks, as well as bespoke aspects to the track itself meant that it was and is a superb place for a race, best of all, that first race was pretty good (there was a race long battle between the then championship leader, Sebastian Vettel and Lewis Hamilton, who was in his penultimate race with McLaren, with Hamilton ultimately coming out on top). Journalists at the time raved about it, saying the saddest part was going home. If there are concerns, they stem from those who point out that the United States has a superb array of other purpose built tracks, heck, if they wanted a venue in Florida, what's wrong with the Daytona Road Course?
There's a reason why hard core fans expressed concern about street tracks in the US. Venues like Dallas, Phoenix, Caesar's Palace and Detroit showed all the stereotype issues with street tracks, concrete walls, right angled corners and poor track conditions. In the case of Miami, nobody can deny, with the ongoing works throughout the weekend to patch up the track, that the condition of the track wasn't perfect, causing what most people who tuned for, the race, to be a snoozer for 80% of it. If the on track action doesn't live up to the hype, there's only one way to refer to it. The criticism isn't a reflection of those who worked to get the track ready, it's more criticism of F1 for not learning from the mistakes of the past.
What frustrates me, is that they have made all this effort with Miami and (next year) Las Vegas, but there are no home grown American drivers on the grid? What good is 3 Grands Prix in a country with no drivers from that country on the grid?
I'd say the most hyped event is the Monaco GP. It's always praised for its glitz and well-healed celebrities and patrons, but when the race actually gets underway it's dull and processional unless a crash happens. What's the point of having a race on a track where you don't have enough space to overtake? I know there's a great deal of tradition involved in the event, and the organizers are really passionate about it, but thinking objectively you'll realize that modern F1 has outgrown the track. Let's see how it is this year.
One thing missed in this video regarding the jewellery ban is that the rule specifically mentions necklaces, piercings and watches, but emits rings and other such objects. Rings have a much higher risk factor due to horrible things like degloving so for the FIA to enforce the rule but ignore them suggests that there is something wrong with the way they are enforcing it. Secondly, Hamilton's jewellery is all MRI scan safe and so that's not a problem either.
Historically, in American sports, the banning of jewelry has been reactionary to 'flashy' athletes who coincidentally were always black...
It's more to stop snagging on anything and stopping burns. As for the other comment, F1 isn't an American sport and doesn't exist for that reason.
@@jakem5039 It's owned by Yankees now and coincidentally shares the characteristic.
@@J5L5M6 Or you're looking for a way to make your favourite sportsperson a victim since the FIA who apply this rule is still owned and headquartered in France.
As always. Great stuff. Your channel is a blessing to F1 community.
Great Analysis Thank You
Glad to have found your channel. Great episode. Subscribed.
Shortcuts in a Florida GP? Who could've foreseen that
If it weren’t for the idea of quickly being able to scan in the event of serious injury, I’d agree with Lewis about the driver’s ability to wear jewelry. However, as an EMT, I can attest to how difficult, fiddly, and surprisingly time consuming it is to remove jewelry in the event that a CT scan is necessary (and we don’t even do that unless asked to lend a helping hand to nurses in the emergency department). Despite safety features getting better to protect the neck and head, when you need to not only remove metal objects so the magnetic scanner doesn’t turn them into a projectile attached to skin, but also needing to keep the head and neck as stable as humanly possible during transport, jewelry can be the difference between a fixed aneurysm leaving only minor injury and debilitating or lethal brain injuries.
The police escort was painful
For the 5% of watchers that are hard-core fans. But that's not the market, mate. It's just not. F1 wouldn't exist as it does without the celebrities and glitz. Period. Full stop.
ACAB
@@UncleKennysPlace I don't recall such a celebrity fest and over hyped bs anywhere like Miami. Even filthy rich Monaco isn't this bad
@@UncleKennysPlace From what I've heard the celebrities and non-fans had their own issues.
The Paddock Club which was $13k a ticket apparently had extremely poor service as it was run by a local company instead of a standard F1 organiser and this has caused many rich F1 newcomers and potential sponsors to be very upset.
Apparently some who paid for those tickets couldn't get any food at the venue and had suites which didn't even overlook the track...
@@UncleKennysPlace No, OP is right. I live in Washington DC, right by the Capitol. Everyone in the bar I was viewing from moaned and groaned and we all talked about how ridiculous it made us look. It's bad enough we're known as a police state.
I think someone forgott to change the video name
With the jewelry, Hamilton and Mercedes got what they asked for. After last year, they demanded that all rules apply to all drivers without exception. Fair enough, but they can’t have it both ways and demand that rules not be bent (lapped cars during a safety car) unless it’s a rule you don’t like (jewelry). Be careful what you wish for.
@N.B. That's complete bs as a justification for the newly enforced jewellery ban. First of, on safety grounds. The points highlight makes little sense when scrutinized. The melting point of skin is 40 odd degrees depending on the person. The melting point of gold is over 1000 degrees. The melting point of platinum, the alloy in lewis' nose ring melts at 1800 degrees. Meaning, by the time gold and platinum has absorbed enough heat to transfer it to one's flesh, said flesh would already be gone. So no, it's not a safety hazard. Romain Grosjean said on sky that the only part of his hand that didn't burn was underneath his wedding ring because gold is a well known heat shield. Which is why the bay of the mclaren f1 roadcar was lined with it.
It's fair to say a neck chain can potentially cause a snagging hazard which is fair. Reports from first responders say wedding rings are the most troublesome. As they're near impossible to remove due to swelling in the hands.
The fireproof undies is even stupider. Drivers must wear fireproof nomex racing suit, fireproof onesies, fireproof balaclava, fireproof socks and gloves. Not to mention helmet. If the fire is severe enough to burn through all those layers chances are you're already dead. No point protecting your dick and balls if the rest of you is charred to a crisp.
@@Bahamuttiamat Nope. None of what you said refutes what I said. I never said that there is full merit to the safety argument. I said that Lewis demanded that all rules be followed and enforced after last season. He got exactly what he asked for, and now he’s complaining about it.
1:59 cheers for reminding me Corden exists…I’d blissfully forgotten for a minute -_-
What a brilliant debrief! Congrats from Spain.
I kind of understand lewis's "it should be our call we're just affecting ourselves" argument...but I'd argue that he isnt. A) he's encouraging younger drivers to takr needless risks for no real reason and B) if the marshalls and medics helping him in an accident are hindered by his jewellery and (god forbid) he dies, he's scarring those people for life unnecessarily. I really think it should be a case of the fia just saying no to him on this
I don’t get the childish whining about jewelry and underwear rules at all. They’re getting paid millions to do a job and the FIA want to enforce safety measures. I remember so many people complaining about the halo at first. Hamilton could quite literally have died last year without it.
The wedding ring thing is a fair point though.
Thanks for always offering so much well thought out insight! So refreshing amongst the reactivity that seemed to come out of this race. I’d love to see a breakdown of how different types of turns and track surfaces affect tyre degradation (just a suggestion obviously!)
Brilliant as always
Your animations are the best!!
About the heavy machinery on track, a good example was Juan Pablo Montoya hitting a jet dryer under caution in nascar. Accidents can happen even under yellow
Wish there were more channels like this one.
I feel like thr biggest issue in what makes a race good and fun to watch is mainly the TV directors there was a lot of overtakes we didn't see because the directors dont allow multiple events to be shown at once
While I don't think jewelry actually affects safety, I still think it is a good measure NOT to wear it during a race. As a former chemical lab worker, we were enforced not to wear anything that could hand out of our bodies (eg anything with chains or is a chain itself), plus lab coat, shoes and glasses.
Pilots already wear helmets and suits, so the only thing that could add unnecessary complications are chains. If Hamilton cannot let go of jewelries, particularly piercings, at least substitute them for balls and pins instead of ones that dangle and fling around.
Idk man. High G collisions with a bullet like object already pierced into his face.
Awesome video
I thought it was a solid race, better than the ones at Albert Park and Imola though the tv direction should be better; they didn't show much of the midfield battles. All of the Miami grand prix reviewers seem to miss that this race had 45 overtakes. It is the 2nd highest this year behind Bahrain (58) and 32 more than Imola, but we didn't see many videos in the F1 community saying that the Imola race was dull or boring.
How can yo u say that about the tv direction, It was a classy shot of the crowd, it wasn't their fault Leclerc decided to try and overtake Verstappen at right that moment. Blame the drivers for having such bad timing, not the guys who are supposed to show us what they do...... wait i think i got this the wrong way round.
@@yoeriw7099 the TV direction was bad in other races too especially the saudi race where for some reason camera kept cutting to the crowd when leclerc and max were switching positions and locking up , that entire race all the best parts was provided in replay rather than the live view.
@@thesaint5991 yeah, I start getting the feeling that whoever is in charge there doesn't like racing. Or had the orders to get pretty shots of the scenery and crowd, no matter what happened on track. I get the feeling that if you put a neutral racing fan in charge it might be better than this
Imola was super boring. I hope they don't go back next year. Miami was a little boring but not as bad as imola
6:16 the war on jewellery... simple. Tell 'em to loose the jewellery! I run construction sites in Australia. Jewellery is pretty much banned outright from all our job sites. For safety reasons, and this includes wedding rings and religious icons. The overpaid prima donna's of F1 need to realise they're not above the rules. The F1 cockpit is their work environment, and a dangerous one. This includes rules on protective clothing as well. Hell, it's already banned from our kids touch-football comp.
Its just a bit hollow when they also choose to race in an active war zone, literally a few kilometers from missile strikes. Also how did you come to the conclusion that they're overpaid?
The only sport I'm pretty sure doesn't ban it is American Baseball, and there there's minimal contact between players or anything else that could make the jewelry dangerous.
Only on UA-cam will you find someone hold a professional driver to the standards of a construction work zone
@@Sticktothemodels dude frankly they're in more danger there's a reason it's banned.
Jewelry should be banned. Shouldn’t even be a discussion. I play soccer and we can’t wear it.
I thought the main argument from Lewis was the arbitrary that stuff like wedding rings or watches would be allowed still, but maybe I'm wrong
They already don’t wear watches when racing. A lot of the teams are sponsored by watch companies so have a picture of a watch on their wrist of the race suit. You can see the top 3 putting on their watches when they go to their little podiums with their hat and water after the race
Pts in this YT video are really good
The recovery vehicle needs a low slung attenuator (mobile crash cushion) attached on the back
They need it on all sides like rental go karts have.
I like what zandvoort have done with cranes along the track, maybe it can be done on some more places?
Maybe they can also do something about the racing which is nonexistent. We don't need two Monaco gps in a season.
@@MrYoungHegelian not the best track of the season indeed lets see how this year cars will do. But the cranes in some corners is smart specially for that kind of tracks. The cars are off the track in no time and no heavy duty vehicles on track.
Love the intro music!
Honestly as an actual resident of the city it all feels bittersweet watching this.
While I'm glad we finally got our circuit, it's not even the original planned one. The part of Miami everyone actually goes to as a tourist, Bayside, was only used in the inaugural series of Formula E which I had a great time attending.
But as cool as having this course is it comes only two weeks after we lost an icon of Miami racing in Palm Beach International Raceway. It doesn't have the glitz and glamour of the city of Miami but neither does this Miami GP! Living close as I do to this course it's not a place anyone visiting this city would go to besides just to see the race, the NFL team, or the strip club. It's not really Miami and it being temporary means that we don't have a track for the people of South Florida anymore. There is Homestead but it just doesn't feel the same with it's only real public section being the drag strip that isn't even a quarter mile and the occasional Give back nights that only let you buy a few laps.
There's no club, no big track nights, no passing on those public days, it's just not real racing and I wish they could have found a way to save Palm Beach or actually get to use Bayside without running into city issues and sports team issues.
Does Homestead have an infield or just the big oval?
I think not pitting LeClerc made total sense. Max has already had been 2 dnfs this season. Don’t risk giving him back one with a lose wheel or terrible stop. Maybe you win but better to capitalize the points you’ve got.
A note about the track surface from a Floridian and tire shop technician. We use an unusually rough asphalt mix for our roads here because of how often and heavy our rains are. The roughness works great for giving water pathways off the road and leaves high spots for regular tires to find grip.
However as you stated, and as I regularly have to explain to people when quoting tire warranties, the cheese-grater style asphalt our roads are made of devour tires extremely fast. They shave a good 1/4-1/3 off of any manufacturer estimated tread life or mileage warranty in my working experience (a 65k mile tire lasting only 40k is the norm). I'm very surprised they chose Florida of all places to have a street track especially when we have regular, proper tracks in the country.
Excellent analogy. Thank you.
Good commentary on jewelry issue
That is a very reasonable ban imp
There are 1000V systems on the cars in the Hybrid era... Jewelry can be more dangerous and the difference between mild injuries or just a scare to literally dropping dead.
The underwear issue is similar but the difference is between a serious burn to a permanent burn it's still a potentially ig safety risk, but the gap from best case to worst case where it can make a difference is significantly smaller.
can you consider adding sections to your videos it makes it much easier to follow. great video though.
Nice title lmao
Alot of people are saying that F1 should not use this kind of track surface again, and I have to say that I strongly disagree.
F1 is about innovation, and innovation doesn't mean you give up on the first try. There can sometimes be the odd step back, but what if there is a great idea in there lurking under a few problems?
Of course they shouldn't persist if they repeatedly have the same issues, and have no way of solving it, but we should encourage F1 to try to persevere with an idea if there is a chance it improves the sport.
The surface was worse than usual, but it wasn't that bad. We even saw an on track overtake for the lead. It should make sense that a new and relatively untested composition is not immediately as good as the highly understood and highly optimised one we currently have.
For a first outing this seems like a decent result, and if they do continue with this kind of surface we should hopefully see rapid improvement to its quality.
I agree with you 100%. Those tractors shouldn't be anywhere near an F1 track or any race track. Do what we did in the 80's and 90's and get a crane onsite to lift the car right off the circuit.
Well... Its's a straightforward title
How to remedy the Miami GP? Easy - go to Seabring instead. As for wearing bling-bling, that can cause a lot of issues in the event of a crash. You can't wear jewelry if you work in construction because you might lose a finger.
i would have thought heavy machinery on a live track would have been instantly banned after Jules??? regardless of halos that is so dangerous.
And how else then they would get the cars out of the track?
@@SuperMafia864 it's more that they should have red flaged or established an extreme caution zone under safety car, like Chain Bear suggested, while removing the car
Maybe a SAFER Barrier can be installed in the T13-15 to reduce the forces on the Driver
“We might actually get some actual action”… so we wish🤙🏽
Miami native and big F1 fan here…look the event itself was incredible the food/drinks entertainment and facilities for the fans was top notch. Went to Barcelona GP this year too, good grief, 30 mins in line to buy a hot water bottle, beyond unacceptable. (Now I see why Miami GP price was somewhat justified)
The areas where they could and should improve is track surface. Obviously we can’t opine on that most of us never raced an F1 car on a grade 1 FIA track. But they should’ve foreseen this, you have to have a proper surface with more than a single file racing line.
Also that slow sector 14-15-16 has to change. It’s so narrow and so slow you’ll never have another car taking an alternate exit and much less exiting T16 not even close wheel to wheel. It makes that long straight somewhat “shorter.” They gotta make the entry/exit to T16 leading to the long straight a little wider and faster. But all in all it was a decent debut event. There are way way too many salty haters, it doesn’t deserve the slack it’s been getting.
I can looking at the flags on the podium at 0:48 for instance. Are those two flags from Monaco or two from the Netherlands? Or something else? 🤔
Going after jewellery for the sake of safety but not installing techpro barriers says a lot
Regarding the subject of tractors on track you mentioned: I bet the tractor that killed bianci will be there at suzuka this year. They never changed thoise vehicles.
Cannot believe they did not cover the concrete barriers after the practice incidents. Should have been an easy fix and they chose to ignore driver requests. Not a good look for the race directors who proclaim their interest in safety first.
I got up at 5:00 in the morning for the race. A race with barely any overtakes and more shots on the crowd than what I actually care about
Yup. Miami was all foam, no beer.
The surface thing was the biggest talking point imo
Locally sourced all good and well but it's gotta uphold F1 standards
"Locally sourced" = saving money because shipping dirt and rock is expensive. They ended up mixing 60% north georgia rock with 40% local limestone because they did 60% of the job they needed to do and left the remaining 40% up to wishes and hopes, basically.
@@Trendyflute Miami has dozens of massive limestone quarries. Why on earth would they not use local limestone?
I agree with you %100 about heavy removal vehicles on track during a live race. Bianchi was killed by a crane parked in the runoff area. Its as simple as that. The fact that the FIA hasn't accepted their responsibility in that makes me sick...and they are still doing it. I wonder who will die next. Anyone who thinks a plastic halo is going to save your head from a 5,000 lb cast iron counterweight on the back of a truck is a fool.
It was just under yellow though, probably the biggest mistake of Charlie’s career to not SC or Red flag sooner.
Limestone is very prevalent in FL - not sure if it would actually be worth the money to rip up everything and redo it or to even put a new layer over the top.
Promise you'll do this series every season, ok?
Nice title!
Looking back now and seeing Red Bull labelled as “less reliable” and Ferrari as “more reliable” made me chuckle, even if it was totally accurate at the time :)
Holy shit what did that pic of Ricciardo come from? Dude looks like he's trying to suplex Daniel!
Jewellery v Tractors on track.
Underpants v Tec Pro.
But essentially - WHY have the FIA gone about this in such a hamfisted way.
Brundel made a good point about jewellery that I didn't consider when the FIA started to clamp down. If a driver has a bad crash they might need to be rushed to an MRI scanner. And metal objects are an absolute no go for those. The last thing anybody wants to do then is waste time looking for jewellery.
Haha great title!
There's a lot of stuff about the Miami circuit that I actually like. The T4-8 complex is incredibly tricky and T14 would be great if it was in an overtake zone. For doing hotlaps in Assetto Corsa it's extremely fun. That said any circuit that requires someone to bring out a safety car to make the race interesting probably needs tweaking.
There are many circuits like that. Imola, Monaco, even Monza gets boring because of the DRS trains.
Does Monaco need tweaking?
@@justinburley8659 Obviously, yes. Or they could stop racing there with their giant cars.
With the vehicles going on track to lift cars off. Wouldn’t it be better that at every opening they have winch equipment eg a winch on a Landrover. Put a loop to hook to on every car and just pull them back behind the barriers. No vehicles on track and very quick. Also they should paint a box to stop in at each of the openings in the barriers. Drivers have to stop in the box if they have an issue on track, car in neutral wheels pointing dead ahead.
Norris’s car even on 3 wheels could have been pulled back behind the barrier easily
Here when the title is ‘Miami Talking pts YT’
My take on the turn 14/15 and the possible lack of better walls is that, does the turn 12-15 need to be the way it is? Is there only 1 possible track design around that area?
Could the track instead go from the current-t12 to current-t16 in a different way?
The complain about the walls wouldn't be an issue entirely if the track maybe goes to the left at t12, then went through a different route to get to where the current t16 is, thus avoiding the very perimeter of the track area at current t13-t14 where the walls are at the very limit and unable to be moved back further to provide more runoff space. Of course this is assuming there are other ways to do a track through that part of the track.
Yeah, I can see why drivers complained about turns 14-16. The cars had to slow all the way down to 'my Vespa has more downforce' twice. I get that it was to deal with the quick elevation change, but they took what could have been a slow speed technical challenge...and took it so far that it became a no-speed tip-toe where nothing happened.
On the jewelry, I think the main point is that Lewis and the FIA are in a bit of an argument right now on a lot of fronts (i.e. over the end of last season, and not attending the award ceremony) this inforcement seems more unusual in that context where the most bedazzled driver is the one with the most issues with the FIAs handling of the the rules
That argument just seems like paranoia. It’s already a rule and if you’re unhappy about the end of last season then the argument would be to start strictly enforcing rules. Can’t have it both ways
@@TheUSDebt I just mean in the video it's treated as a Hamilton being against the enforcement for the rule because it's not been enforced before and drivers should get to choose, Vs safety but the context of last season and the ongoing relationship between them is missing. I think that the point should have been made that for Hamilton it feels personal because he has the most jewelry and he did not show up to the award show and he was out spoken over last season.
@@jacoblawton6350 OK yeah I see why context would make it more clear, I just don’t think the context really makes Hamilton look any better for arguing this rule.
@@TheUSDebt think we agree then :D he is being silly but can see why he thinks it's personal
Is there not a Fantasy GP episode for this race???
When the thing you most remember from a GP weekend is a "fake Marina" something is not right.....
personally i dislike the Medium, hard strat that most teams use but being honest i dont know how to fix that other than removing hard completely
I don't mind the chicane being difficult to navigate, but too slow sections create time distance between cars, simply because cars have a certain length and can't physically run through each other. As advanced as these cars are, they don't have ghost powers. At a distance of 6 meters (from front wing to front wing, or rear wing to rear wing) cars going about 50 km/h the car behind is already well over 4 tenths behind, and that's basically with their own nose against the beam wing of the car in front. This means they'll still be over 4 tenths behind starting the straight to turn 17 since the whole section from turn 14 to 16 is so tight you can't fit side by side. You'll get DRS on the last portion of that straight, but we barely saw any overtaking going on at turn 17 because cars couldn't physically get closer than 4 tenths at the start of the straight due to their length and the DRS zone was a tad too short. The slipstream effect is much lower on these new cars too. We saw more overtaking at turn 1 even with that straight being significantly shorter simply because cars could have a smaller time delta at the start of that straight.
I really missed your tweets during the race
In the jewellery argument
I more agree with the FIA as it could cause more injuries than intended
But on the other hand if the driver crashes I think jewellery isn't gonna be my concern as they may have done a high G hit and that in itself is a higher priority than the jewellery
i'm personally not entirely opposed to having recovery vehicles on track during a safety car, but _only_ if it is absolutely necessary, and only if the white flag is also displayed, (see australia 2012) which it wasn't from what i could see during the miami gp.
Apparently TV viewers had a very different experience to those who watched on F1 TV and tat makes a lot of sense. I saw a lot more overtakes and a lot fewer "look at the celebrity" shots and I was confused what everyone was complaining about.
Your PTSD about Bianchi is a bit over the top. Ultimately, his crash was caused by going too fast, which is why the safety car was clearly used on Sunday when they needed a tractor. As for de Villota, her crash was at a runway where the facilities aren't comparable to a Grade 1 circuit.
But my point is a tractor isn't a grade 1 safety feature. It's an unsafe anomaly
But when Spa is moving a literal mountain to make itself safer after the Hubert crash. It is surely odd that such a dangerous scenario as tractors on track is allowed to continue so long after the Bianchi crash.
@@chainbear The tractor crane is safe as long as the driver's speed is curtailed and kept under control. Hence why the safety car is deployed if it's needed. What other options do you have that don't involve stopping the race?
@@Batters56 You're conveniently ignoring all the procedures that were implemented and changed as a result of the Bianchi crash.
Cool title
LuLu initially disliked halo. I guess it's safe to say that he's NOT the person who understands safety.
The race was good on later parts, sadly we don't get to see it
The FIA would have more of a leg to stand on moaning at Lewis and Seb about their jewellery or underwear on safety grounds if they hadn't just made the drivers race on a track where missiles were landing a few miles away.
Firstly, Seb was joking and not really protesting anything.
Secondly, you’re totally right about Jeddah. Also the people who complain about the barriers and cranes on track are right. These are legit safety concerns and the way the race direction and FOM handled these are questionable to say the least.
But then again, as the video states, wearing jewelry and unsafe underwear is also a legit safety concern. Just because they dropped the ball somewhere else doesn’t mean they shouldn’t improve safety here either.
If I would be speeding and fined, I could argue many people are speeding, hack even the cops are speeding without sirens. I could also state some people are rapist or murderers. But should that mean I get away with speeding? (potentially harming myself or others around me).
Coming here after reading the Autosport article on the fact it also made a loss because they wanted it to all be "first class".
14 and 15 should be even steeper
Let's see the upgrades that Ferrari brings to Barcelona. Might get them back on top
I don’t know how Verstappen managed to get Driver of the day as Russell and Sainz saw more action
Russell keeping his top 5 finish even after bad quali and Sainz pulling a quick one to get out of DRS range of Perez 😁
The most there was from Verstappen was a simple pass at lights out for second then a boring DRS passed Leclerc on a straight 🥱
11:25 Chain bear: Ferrari is more reliable
Well that aged well
Someone's forgotten to change the title from Miami Talking pts YT".
Russell’s strategy was probably just “Fuck it latifi is likely to crash at some point might aswell slap the hards on and hope for a safety car late on”
It was a decent idea as either outcome of this plan was okay. 7th/8th without a safety car in a car that had been completely out of whack in FP3 and Qualifying. If he had the same setup from FP1 I think he might have raced aggressively but this was using the only benefit the Merc has right now with it being reliable, not to harsh on the tyres and that allows it to run on these hards at better quality for longer.
Russell has been given quite a bit of grief for being lucky which is true but a brand new circuit, street layout and as you said Latifi can seem to crash while parked so with a dodgy track surface and new track it must multiply the chances and even without it the Merc at Miami wasn't looking so good anyway but at least they got a working setup for Hamilton I suppose so now they have two cars in the top 10.
There is this track here called CotA and its one of the best tracks ever built and then there is this Miami freeway sized parking lot thing...Florida and Texas both SUUUUUCK but when it comes to tracks one is massively better than the other. I hope they give up on this crap as soon as contracts will allow.
Given that we collectively called for Masi to go partly because of his putting a tractor onto a live track, I am very concerned that it is still happening. To not raise a concern here would be hypocritical.
Masi was given tonnes of criticism for safety problems, rules and penalty decisions, glad to see they've all gone away when he left... Right....?
The Lando incident was terrible. VSC when it was clear it would have to be full immediately, marshalls took a month to remvoe the debris. Ooof.
Not even changed the video title yet haha