Wow! From boulevard skidder junk to useful machine! Unbelieveable unless I watched it! Knowledge of the subject, scroungers eyes, a little ingenuity & Voila! Great Vid.!
Hahaha... you found that right by my favorite Italian Restaurant. Oddly enough, I just had a conversation yesterday with one of my viewers about how these things are unstoppable. I think you just proved our conversation as accurate!
@sixtyfiveford I used to frequent this location about 25 years ago. When Chef Tom had his Bistro on 90th and Redwood, my friends and I would go eat there all the time. Occasionally Chef Tom would come sit with us too. I've probably been 4 times to in the past year to the 5400 location. It's a drive from Tooele.... so I dont go as often as I'd like. The Manicotti with Alfredo sauce is the best!
Side of the road finds... I retired early from a high-stress career in big finance IT and for the last ten years, 90% of my daily transportation needs have been via bicycle. Talk about roadside finds! When you're going low & slow, what you see is incredible -- garments, tools, devices, containers, etc. And, if you pedal behind the huge local mall, the treasure people throw out, wow! I've scored some nice 1/4" sheet steel stock in the past. Within the last couple of weeks, I came upon a nice plastic container. And who doesn't need another sturdy container for the garage workbench? I picked up the container and tossed it into my kiddy cart bicycle trailer. I get home open up the container to toss out the half-eaten lunch still in there and discover a glass pipe and a nice cache of dope! Good thing I didn't have an official encounter that day! "Seriously! It's not mine! I found the container on the side of the road and picked it up just for the container. I didn't even look in it! I don't do drugs!" How big of an eye roll do you suppose I would have received? As for those old transformer-based welders, I have a couple of them sitting on the shelf. I like the modern inverter welders with all their weld-quality management options. But, I hold on to the old-school stuff just in case the high-tech versions lose their magic smoke and I'm in the middle of an important project to complete.
@@sixtyfiveford The key here is that you had your eyeballs open and your brain engaged... most folks drive around half asleep thus don't spot things when they're there to spot or recognize them for what they are! As we used to say back in the day... Top notch spot! - Max Giganteum
I thought you were crazy to try and fix that thing, I thought it would fry and blow a breaker. But you fixed and restored it to practically brand new. Amazing.
@@MetallicAH2O well I may have you beat. I'm teaching myself to weld. Dad wouldn't teach me because he didn't want me to be a welder. He's almost 98 and I know dad can still put down a good bead. I'm almost 70. And as my own teacher, I think I'm top notch and the best in my class. Actually I've got a looong way to go.
As usual... you made that look easy! I was waiting for the smoke when you turned it on.... but not on your watch! Great video as always, you gave that machine a new life! Hope Ginger enjoys it 😂
I'm surprised that for so few parts you managed to whop the stuff into shape and got running again on the lowest amperage setting as smooth as cream. Add to that it's a great unit with lots of welding grunt . Even if the scenario was scripted and setup the whole video would be just as impressive. That Lincoln and all those others I have seen so far are all mighty welding machines. Respects to the engineers at that company for the product they consistently design and produce. Great video.
I love collecting tools from the side of the road. I've found hundreds over the years. My 1 lb. ball peen hammer was a broken hammer head on the shoulder. I got an NOS handle, which had stirred some paint from an estate sale for $0.10. My favorite tool in the box.
The aluminum windings are not painted to look like copper. That material is called Kapton tape, a highly heat resistant material used as an insulator. It just happens to be copper-colored.
I don’t believe that’s Kapton tape. I believe it’s the enamel coating for the wire. Windings and coils are coated to isolate them from themselves. A good representation is a speaker coil, speakers blow when they get too hot and cook the enamel off the wire causing a short.
Have him back up and show it closer, it could be either. Not painted to look like copper (a good copper thief knows what to throw away, just cut the leads and run). He could use a good high temp enamel though.
We still use the old Forney225 dad and mom bought at the Farmer Co-oP in 66-67. I remember go shopping for welders with them. It still works. Funny it has cutout in the case for a fan, but they didn't put on inside. The Forney has taps that are in 10a increments at common current ranges. I think it was the compromise between the budget tombstone and one with infinite current adjustment. I think you should write "warning aluminum wires" on it so it won't "fall off a truck" again.
Just keep checking your local classifieds. I see stick welders pop up all the time for $75 bucks or less. I bought one for $25 last year. Everybody wants a MIG welder and though those are great, there's nothing wrong with the stick welders.
Yup. I have a tombstone welder that does the jobs I need to get done. I would love to have a mig drop into my life, but that probably won't happen for awhile. These old Lincoln Tombstones are treasures for the common man. @@sixtyfiveford
Really nice work, man. Really. Breathing life into the repair-not-discard movement that seems to be gradually building, at least here in Oz with things like pop-up repair cafés staffed by retirees and people similarly talented and passionate like yourself. I've so far revived our dead microwave and coffee machine, both for under $10 each and am currently tackling our washing maching that snapped its drive chassis amd tore holes in its plastic casing; not sure if I'll pull this one off or not! But with your videos as inspiration, there's wind in my sails!
Two things come to mind: 1. Prices are continuing to rise here in the states due to Bidenomics. All goods are going up in cost... which makes repairing existing items economically feasible or necessary whereas they may not have been in the recent past. Isn't it interesting how losing the "cheap products" manufacturing environment influences society away from being a "throw away" society back into a "rebuild and repair" society like we were in the distant past? 2. Folks recognize that old school, vintage items are usually built to last and are vastly superior to newly designed and built items thus the old school items are often worthwhile to repair. Couple that with old school items usually CAN be repaired whereas that's often not true with new items as they're built cheaply, designed in a way as to NOT be repairable and with an expected lifespan (planned obsolescence) and what do you get? A growing movement that's created the small item repairs niche. As I see it, it has always paid to be self-sufficient and will continue to be so in the future. In fact, I see self-sufficiency becoming ever more crucial in the future due to changes in the law, disruptions in the supply chains, a lack of manufacturing in the US (for those of us in the USA) as well as due to the lunacy of the so-called "climate change" movement. The bottom line is that being able to repair or manufacture or otherwise produce your own items will be critical if you wish to live as you choose as well as save a lot of your money. Having certain skills also opens you up to being able to trade services for what you need too... I can testify to that! I could tell stories forever about how I traded machining or fab work for stuff that I either wanted or needed with little or no cash being a part of the deal. You know what or who also wasn't a part of the deal? The city, county, state or the feds. It' nice to know I don't have to be concerned with having to put up with someone I don't know butting into my business... thinking they have the right to tell me what I can or cannot do or that I need to pay some fee, attain some permit or pay some form of a tax. Not to be a conspiracy theorist or nut but the less the "officials" know, the better off you are. Translation? Doing everything for yourself allows you to do it right and do it the most efficiently with the least cost. Peace and good vibes to all! - Max Giganteum
Beautiful! BTW: Dodge/Chrysler products with the battery in the trunk, like the Magnum, use top quality welding lead as the hot wire from the battery up to the engine compartment. Last I saw it actually had the welding lead printing on the cable. I'd think the aluminum stuff wouldn't stand up to a lot of bending over time, but it would probably work great for as little as I would use it. Now I just need to keep my eyes on the side of the road.
I have one that's *OLD*the leads are like you said. They are side by side. That's how I tell the difference between ild and new. New is on top and bottom
I always use the shelf. I keep my gloves, cap, and sometimes a wire brush and chipping hammer there. It's convenient, because every other surface I would lay things ends up covered with the remains of previous projects. I can't imagine using one without the shelf. Watching this video makes me want to fabricate an accurate replica of the original back on my 225, just to show my appreciation for the glove shelf. But, then I would have to make an accurate copy of the front, so I would have something to attach it to. Then I'd have to build a transformer to have something to stand it on.
You the man, Mo!!! Nice save of a classic (even if not that old). IF, big IF, I had your skills and was doing a similar rescue, I would have totally done the full back too. 👍👊 Thanks for sharing your knowledge and continuing to be one of the best channels on YT!!!
I bought one used for 75 bucks over 10 yrs ago. Costed more to wire my house with an outside outlet so sparks stayed out side for driveway welding. If I saw that by road I’d pick it up for scrap. Impressive repair!
Good find! Score. I have always hole sawed holes on either side of that pocket so that my rod holders sit in the hole. It makes it look like a torso with shoulders instead of a tombstone but handy nonetheless. If you want to get fancy with the holes you can put beauty rings in the holes, I have used cut off cup holders from an old center console for example. Pass it on!
That's one of my favorite parts about fixing these welders up. You always get to see how each guy modified and or built a cart for these. It's always different.
i had no issues with the current carrying in that cheap CCA cable, but it does corrode so quickly, grease up anywhere you expose it, turned to dust actual dust in under a year of being in my engine bay, and that was with a feral crimped on the end then inserted into a plastic fuse holder enclosure
Interesting. I guess that could be corrosion, galvanic corrosion or resistance at the connection causing extreme heat. I know everything I buy these days has cca wire in it. I was under the impression the copper was there to prevent the aluminum from oxidizing.
I think you did a great job on this one! Very cool to bring something back from the dead Dr. Frankenstein! Even though your fan arrangement is going to be 'just fine (tm)' there should be something to be said for the shroud / separating plate of the original design. It brings in air from the side louvers and blows it down but without it's just blowing air around in a big open space, I feel like hot air from the transformer will just rise and the fan won't be as effective. But nevertheless - super fun video and great job giving that one new life!
My buddy bought an old Lincoln tombstone at an auction. It was old looking and a little beat up but he only gave $40 for it. He got it home and plugged it in, nothing. Took the cover off and it was a solid chunk of rust! LOL thing looks like it was sitting in a pond for years on the inside but the outside looked decent for its age.
@@sixtyfiveford I was in awe of this one. I mean, it looked a little rough but you just cant imagine what it looked like inside. It was actually a big blob of rust. It wasnt really recognizable. It had to have been laying in water or something for a few years, im just not quite sure how the body wasnt rusted away. If it wasnt for the fact it was bought at an auction from an old mans estate sale out of his barn, i would almost think it was taken from a pile of rust and assembled into this older body, it was that bad! LOL This was a few years ago, i will ask him if he has any pictures of it or where it went. I hope its still at his shop, you wont believe this one...
That wire is fine for light use. My issues with is the ends brake off and it burns out internally and can be hard to locate. Had a lot of issues with self tarp systems on my dump truck.
20:52 id use it. But if I was looking to buy one id look for an old one with copper coils. I have an old Harbor fright unit i paid 15 bucks for it had a dryer plug hooked on the wires I converter it to twist lock cables The duty cycles not very long Let's face it its not a big Miller 440 volt unit. These are just cheap buzz boxes. Lincoln should go back to using copper coils as a buyer its worth it to have a longer cycle time. You can also offer a budget version Like this one.
The duty cycle times are actually better with the aluminum. The first units were 180amp peak with copper and a 20% duty cycle. They put a fan and aluminum and it were able to jump the amperage up to 225amps at 20%. I have used both copper winding and aluminum winding stick machines and honestly there is no noticeable difference. The electricity doesn't care what it has to go through to get out. I tried the copper lead machine and this aluminum lead machine side by side and no difference. The funny thing is everyone that I talk to that has an older Lincoln 225 buzz box will say " I have a good old one with copper windings. It's much better than the new Lincolns" . Problem with that is Lincoln never made a 225 with copper so the placebo effect is real.
The noises in the background of the opening video were kind of awesome and reminded me of a video game. Like a 80's version of Grand theft Auto except you get points by driving around finding great junk!
I missed an idealarc 250 welder with 50' cables. 200$☹️☹️ I have sa200 Lincoln and a few others. Plus a Lincoln AC from the 50's but it has a flat top and rounded on the sides. Not like a tombstone Lincoln. Nice job as always 👍
Dang. With all these electric vehicles and stuff like that copper prices are bound to just double or triple in the future. Probably my favorite one was buying a tombstone 10-15 years ago for 50 bucks and as I was going to leave the guy asked if I wanted the extension cords as well. He said I had to dig him out of the garage though because they were heavy. Nearly 150 ft of 6 gauge extension cord. It was heavy for sure.
Can anything kill them? Yes indeed. Many years ago I was maintenance in a shop and they had a lot of these mounted to benches. They are very simple, a transformer with many ‘ taps ‘ for different amperage connected to a multi - position switch to chose which ‘ tap ‘ you want. The tap wires for the lower amperage were quite small in comparison to the higher amp wires. They used a small motor like one used in a record player to blow a little air around. In the shop they were in they used to spray paint the machines we built and the guys painting after hours NEVER checked to turn things off and the welder fans used to get loaded with paint overspray. The paint gummed up the fans and they quit working. The thing that used to kill these welders was the cheap fans not working and people welding at maximum amperage with no fan and overheating them. The other thing was stingers falling on the bench and shorting with no one noticing until the smaller wires were smoking and burning up ( 90 amp wire was always first to get smoked ) I used to mix and match parts to keep them going, tape the melted wires, actually get record player motors out of the trash to use for the fans, and I remember having one old beater I was trying to make usable , it worked but the whole transformer frame was hot , electrically. 200 volts
When Ginger dropped the face shield off, she looked like a lot of the welders at my work place, they'd rather do other stuff (like sit around) than weld. She could probably weld better too. 🤣
It would be interesting to measure the voltage drop under load between the output of the transformer & the welding clamp. on the load using the CCA wires. I have neighbors who wonder why my 24 foot jumper cables will start cars & trucks of all types & theirs won't! I use finely stranded copper wire cables, & they buy the CCA jumpers from Walmart. I also use a hydraulic crimper to install the clamps & the internal connectors. I enjoy your videos very much, & I bet the engineers & Master electricians are on Malox & Nitro Glycerin for some of your fixes. Great video !
I actually had two of the exact same welders in the shop at the time of filming this. One with copper leads 5awg and this one with CCA 4awg. There was no difference in welds. CCA you have to run larger to equal copper for sure. The rule of thumb is 2awg but it drops as you get to the larger gauges. Jumper cables have a huge variance in quality. Unless someone goes out of their way to buy a top of the line set or makes them like you; they're junk.
I have an old Lincoln 225 amp arc welder that someone left sitting out in the weather for years. Now the transformer is dead as a hammer. I have 240 volt going all the way to the coil, but the transformer doesn't hum at all or have any output. Can you give me an idea of how to procede? Thank you!
CCA wire has a flex problem and they will break far earlier than solid copper wires. That's an excellent deal to get a nice, working Tombstone for the price of a U-turn and an hour of work. Score! Is it time to make a bending brake? (Yeah, me, too.)
I debated the flex issue and I think I read it roughly 2x more likely to fatigue or 1/2 the life. But it seams copper never breaks so half of eternity is.......... ? sarcasm... I've had a brake on my list forever. Problem is the room they take up and where do I stop in width. 2foot? 3foot? maybe 5foot to be safe? Then the double bends become an issue and you need to build a finger brake. I keep getting lost in my needs and reality and space consumption.
The problem is aluminum dissipates heat so fast you're not able to heat it like copper. So I dipped it in, let it sit and then I heated up the assembly again.
@@sixtyfiveford Nice! No cold joints! I figured there was more heat at some point. Great content, I enjoy the straightforward approach. Also: great dog! 👍🏼
You know what a Lincoln ln 8 wire feeder is. Would one them tombstone run it. My dad's buddy gave me one that's old but not a lot hours on it. He was welder in umwa bought it new years ago. Has 60# spool flux wire and spool holder round steel case. He kept the leads, whip stinger. But shoot free and not junked. Expensive little unit in it's day. Still command a price used. Thanks love the channel
It might, if that version of the LN8 can run on CC. Some of them have a switch to select for CC/CV. Needs constant voltage to run a wire feeder in short arc mode
Isn't it funny when you see something on the side of the road and have to take the quickest safe U-turn possible. Lol
Amazing treasures.
I brake for bed frames all the time. That stuff is so handy for projects
@@michaelosmonme too
Wow! From boulevard skidder junk to useful machine! Unbelieveable unless I watched it! Knowledge of the subject, scroungers eyes, a little ingenuity & Voila! Great Vid.!
Glad you enjoyed it
Man, I grew up on the farm for years using those Lincolns they never failed!!
Same, neighbors used to bring their broken equipment over to get it put back together... Lol, I miss those days!
You could always wire brush the connections and bring them back to life no matter what!
I came for Ginger, but stayed for the welder overhaul. She is such a sweetheart. Nice work on the welder, thanks for sharing your videos.
Awesome! Thank you!
Hahaha... you found that right by my favorite Italian Restaurant. Oddly enough, I just had a conversation yesterday with one of my viewers about how these things are unstoppable. I think you just proved our conversation as accurate!
I was just thinking about that restaurant the other day. I don't think I've stepped foot in there for 20 years.
@sixtyfiveford I used to frequent this location about 25 years ago. When Chef Tom had his Bistro on 90th and Redwood, my friends and I would go eat there all the time. Occasionally Chef Tom would come sit with us too. I've probably been 4 times to in the past year to the 5400 location. It's a drive from Tooele.... so I dont go as often as I'd like. The Manicotti with Alfredo sauce is the best!
@@89GI may have to pop in there soon.
Had one in the shop when I was 9, It's still in the same spot and works fine. I'm 62 now
Side of the road finds...
I retired early from a high-stress career in big finance IT and for the last ten years, 90% of my daily transportation needs have been via bicycle. Talk about roadside finds! When you're going low & slow, what you see is incredible -- garments, tools, devices, containers, etc. And, if you pedal behind the huge local mall, the treasure people throw out, wow! I've scored some nice 1/4" sheet steel stock in the past.
Within the last couple of weeks, I came upon a nice plastic container. And who doesn't need another sturdy container for the garage workbench? I picked up the container and tossed it into my kiddy cart bicycle trailer. I get home open up the container to toss out the half-eaten lunch still in there and discover a glass pipe and a nice cache of dope!
Good thing I didn't have an official encounter that day!
"Seriously! It's not mine! I found the container on the side of the road and picked it up just for the container. I didn't even look in it! I don't do drugs!"
How big of an eye roll do you suppose I would have received?
As for those old transformer-based welders, I have a couple of them sitting on the shelf. I like the modern inverter welders with all their weld-quality management options. But, I hold on to the old-school stuff just in case the high-tech versions lose their magic smoke and I'm in the middle of an important project to complete.
99% of us would have thought it was beyond repair
Nice find, nice job saving it!
Thanks
Nice find! You have got to be the luckiest person I know when it comes to finding things!
I dropped my jaw when I saw this and knew exactly what it was. Of course I was hoping it wasn't missing parts.
@@sixtyfiveford The key here is that you had your eyeballs open and your brain engaged... most folks drive around half asleep thus don't spot things when they're there to spot or recognize them for what they are! As we used to say back in the day... Top notch spot!
- Max Giganteum
welcome to another chapter of Ginger the Welding Wonder Dog!!!
*Thanks for sharing
She's still too concerned with where her next meal is coming from to care about welding.
@@sixtyfiveford I don't blame her, so am I most days lol
I thought you were crazy to try and fix that thing, I thought it would fry and blow a breaker. But you fixed and restored it to practically brand new. Amazing.
I was waiting for the fun "pop" when I threw the switch.
After 3 classes with Mo, Ginger will be welding better than I ever could.
👍
Ginger is already waaay better at welding than I am.... And I've got thumbs and practiced welding in trade school LoL
@@MetallicAH2O well I may have you beat. I'm teaching myself to weld. Dad wouldn't teach me because he didn't want me to be a welder.
He's almost 98 and I know dad can still put down a good bead.
I'm almost 70. And as my own teacher, I think I'm top notch and the best in my class. Actually I've got a looong way to go.
Great job. You make that all look so easy. And the only moving parts are the switches. So yeah I guess it is. Thanks again.
You don't ever use the circuit ground like a neutral.
I never cease to be amazed by you and your finds/restores.
Those tombstone welders are great.
As usual... you made that look easy! I was waiting for the smoke when you turned it on.... but not on your watch! Great video as always, you gave that machine a new life! Hope Ginger enjoys it 😂
Thanks 👍
I'm surprised that for so few parts you managed to whop the stuff into shape and got running again on the lowest amperage setting as smooth as cream. Add to that it's a great unit with lots of welding grunt . Even if the scenario was scripted and setup the whole video would be just as impressive. That Lincoln and all those others I have seen so far are all mighty welding machines. Respects to the engineers at that company for the product they consistently design and produce. Great video.
If anyone could fix that, I knew you would. That was awesome…thanks for taking us along
Hey thanks
I love collecting tools from the side of the road. I've found hundreds over the years. My 1 lb. ball peen hammer was a broken hammer head on the shoulder. I got an NOS handle, which had stirred some paint from an estate sale for $0.10. My favorite tool in the box.
Another Tombstone lives again and Ginger was just wondering if it might heat up a snack for her. FINE job and God Bless Yall!
I'm pretty sure that's the only thing on her mind is where the hamburger comes from out of the machine.
The aluminum windings are not painted to look like copper. That material is called Kapton tape, a highly heat resistant material used as an insulator. It just happens to be copper-colored.
I don’t believe that’s Kapton tape. I believe it’s the enamel coating for the wire. Windings and coils are coated to isolate them from themselves. A good representation is a speaker coil, speakers blow when they get too hot and cook the enamel off the wire causing a short.
Have him back up and show it closer, it could be either. Not painted to look like copper (a good copper thief knows what to throw away, just cut the leads and run). He could use a good high temp enamel though.
We still use the old Forney225 dad and mom bought at the Farmer Co-oP in 66-67. I remember go shopping for welders with them. It still works. Funny it has cutout in the case for a fan, but they didn't put on inside. The Forney has taps that are in 10a increments at common current ranges. I think it was the compromise between the budget tombstone and one with infinite current adjustment.
I think you should write "warning aluminum wires" on it so it won't "fall off a truck" again.
A good assistant makes shop work so much easier!
Definitely!
What an incredible roadside find! Would love to have a welder, even a beat up roadside one like this. Great job on the repair/restore!
Just keep checking your local classifieds. I see stick welders pop up all the time for $75 bucks or less. I bought one for $25 last year. Everybody wants a MIG welder and though those are great, there's nothing wrong with the stick welders.
Yup. I have a tombstone welder that does the jobs I need to get done. I would love to have a mig drop into my life, but that probably won't happen for awhile. These old Lincoln Tombstones are treasures for the common man.
@@sixtyfiveford
Really nice work, man. Really. Breathing life into the repair-not-discard movement that seems to be gradually building, at least here in Oz with things like pop-up repair cafés staffed by retirees and people similarly talented and passionate like yourself. I've so far revived our dead microwave and coffee machine, both for under $10 each and am currently tackling our washing maching that snapped its drive chassis amd tore holes in its plastic casing; not sure if I'll pull this one off or not! But with your videos as inspiration, there's wind in my sails!
Two things come to mind:
1. Prices are continuing to rise here in the states due to Bidenomics. All goods are going up in cost... which makes repairing existing items economically feasible or necessary whereas they may not have been in the recent past. Isn't it interesting how losing the "cheap products" manufacturing environment influences society away from being a "throw away" society back into a "rebuild and repair" society like we were in the distant past?
2. Folks recognize that old school, vintage items are usually built to last and are vastly superior to newly designed and built items thus the old school items are often worthwhile to repair. Couple that with old school items usually CAN be repaired whereas that's often not true with new items as they're built cheaply, designed in a way as to NOT be repairable and with an expected lifespan (planned obsolescence) and what do you get? A growing movement that's created the small item repairs niche.
As I see it, it has always paid to be self-sufficient and will continue to be so in the future. In fact, I see self-sufficiency becoming ever more crucial in the future due to changes in the law, disruptions in the supply chains, a lack of manufacturing in the US (for those of us in the USA) as well as due to the lunacy of the so-called "climate change" movement. The bottom line is that being able to repair or manufacture or otherwise produce your own items will be critical if you wish to live as you choose as well as save a lot of your money. Having certain skills also opens you up to being able to trade services for what you need too... I can testify to that! I could tell stories forever about how I traded machining or fab work for stuff that I either wanted or needed with little or no cash being a part of the deal. You know what or who also wasn't a part of the deal? The city, county, state or the feds. It' nice to know I don't have to be concerned with having to put up with someone I don't know butting into my business... thinking they have the right to tell me what I can or cannot do or that I need to pay some fee, attain some permit or pay some form of a tax. Not to be a conspiracy theorist or nut but the less the "officials" know, the better off you are. Translation? Doing everything for yourself allows you to do it right and do it the most efficiently with the least cost. Peace and good vibes to all!
- Max Giganteum
Beautiful! BTW: Dodge/Chrysler products with the battery in the trunk, like the Magnum, use top quality welding lead as the hot wire from the battery up to the engine compartment. Last I saw it actually had the welding lead printing on the cable. I'd think the aluminum stuff wouldn't stand up to a lot of bending over time, but it would probably work great for as little as I would use it. Now I just need to keep my eyes on the side of the road.
I have one that's *OLD*the leads are like you said. They are side by side. That's how I tell the difference between ild and new. New is on top and bottom
I always use the shelf. I keep my gloves, cap, and sometimes a wire brush and chipping hammer there. It's convenient, because every other surface I would lay things ends up covered with the remains of previous projects. I can't imagine using one without the shelf. Watching this video makes me want to fabricate an accurate replica of the original back on my 225, just to show my appreciation for the glove shelf. But, then I would have to make an accurate copy of the front, so I would have something to attach it to. Then I'd have to build a transformer to have something to stand it on.
Great to see a full video again! I love restorations of most anything. Keep up the good work!
Thanks again!
That is crazy. Those tombstone welders are a beast. Great job
Thanks
Mr. fix it all, great job fixing the Tombstone
Hey thanks
Awesome recovery. Your videos never are dull.
I appreciate that!
What a great t shirt. " Welders Don't Follow The Same Rules"
You the man, Mo!!! Nice save of a classic (even if not that old). IF, big IF, I had your skills and was doing a similar rescue, I would have totally done the full back too. 👍👊
Thanks for sharing your knowledge and continuing to be one of the best channels on YT!!!
Thanks 👍
another great restore video. GINGERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!
Love these type of videos...
Glad you like them!
I bought one used for 75 bucks over 10 yrs ago. Costed more to wire my house with an outside outlet so sparks stayed out side for driveway welding. If I saw that by road I’d pick it up for scrap. Impressive repair!
That's a great deal.
@@sixtyfiveford we had them in H S metal shop 50 yrs ago . Do they still make them . Guy I bought it off got himself a mig wire feed welder .
Good find! Score. I have always hole sawed holes on either side of that pocket so that my rod holders sit in the hole. It makes it look like a torso with shoulders instead of a tombstone but handy nonetheless. If you want to get fancy with the holes you can put beauty rings in the holes, I have used cut off cup holders from an old center console for example. Pass it on!
That's one of my favorite parts about fixing these welders up. You always get to see how each guy modified and or built a cart for these. It's always different.
This is awesome, always love watching you show love to these fantastic machines
Thanks, I'm glad you liked it. These welders are indestructible.
Love your videos!
cool find great fix .
I use one of those! Rescued. A great welder.
It sure is!
Another one saved from the scrapper. 👍🏼
Heck yeah
Another brilliant video. Thanks, Stuart 🇦🇺
I remember when just about every family farm had one of those in a shed out back.
i had no issues with the current carrying in that cheap CCA cable, but it does corrode so quickly, grease up anywhere you expose it, turned to dust actual dust in under a year of being in my engine bay, and that was with a feral crimped on the end then inserted into a plastic fuse holder enclosure
Interesting. I guess that could be corrosion, galvanic corrosion or resistance at the connection causing extreme heat. I know everything I buy these days has cca wire in it. I was under the impression the copper was there to prevent the aluminum from oxidizing.
Thats awesome, I love those welders! Using the aluminum cable is a great idea!
The price is right. Seams like aluminum wire is in everything made these days.
Great job.
Looks amazing, for what you started with....
From Roadkill to Righteous!
Feels like a win for mankind, saving something from the scrap pile!
I'd probably have one, but no 220 hookup. Nice save!
Hi Moe , Nice Job 👍 . You Can't Beat The Price. And You Just Needed to Get Some Cables . Young People Are Scrap Happy !
You got that right!
AHHH The crackle of an AC welder. Thanks so much for the fun.
It's almost mesmerizing while you're welding
Dude can fix anything and if it’s broken he can fix it 👍
I think you did a great job on this one! Very cool to bring something back from the dead Dr. Frankenstein!
Even though your fan arrangement is going to be 'just fine (tm)' there should be something to be said for the shroud / separating plate of the original design. It brings in air from the side louvers and blows it down but without it's just blowing air around in a big open space, I feel like hot air from the transformer will just rise and the fan won't be as effective. But nevertheless - super fun video and great job giving that one new life!
Seems like a good time to build a metal brake.
Dayammn! The best I've done recently is a 9x12 indoor/outdoor rug. Good find!
I've got a 20th century 1939 welder with infinite adjustment but with copper windings. Still using it.
Awesome
We’ll done 👍👍
My buddy bought an old Lincoln tombstone at an auction. It was old looking and a little beat up but he only gave $40 for it. He got it home and plugged it in, nothing. Took the cover off and it was a solid chunk of rust! LOL thing looks like it was sitting in a pond for years on the inside but the outside looked decent for its age.
Dang! This has to be the first Lincoln tombstone I've ever heard that died. Rust kills everything steel though.
@@sixtyfiveford I was in awe of this one. I mean, it looked a little rough but you just cant imagine what it looked like inside. It was actually a big blob of rust. It wasnt really recognizable. It had to have been laying in water or something for a few years, im just not quite sure how the body wasnt rusted away. If it wasnt for the fact it was bought at an auction from an old mans estate sale out of his barn, i would almost think it was taken from a pile of rust and assembled into this older body, it was that bad! LOL This was a few years ago, i will ask him if he has any pictures of it or where it went. I hope its still at his shop, you wont believe this one...
My 1987 Tombstone has white upper faceplate retention buttons and black lower buttons.
You never cease to amaze me.
Nice restoration. Pretty sure the coating on the aluminum winding is for anti-oxidation. Many welding leads are copper plated aluminum.
That wire is fine for light use. My issues with is the ends brake off and it burns out internally and can be hard to locate. Had a lot of issues with self tarp systems on my dump truck.
Good video though
Absolutely!. Every time I sell one of these it's always a homeowner that's probably going to use this for another 2 hours in the next 20 years.
Nice craftsmanship dude :)
20:52 id use it.
But if I was looking to buy one id look for an old one with copper coils. I have an old Harbor fright unit i paid 15 bucks for it had a dryer plug hooked on the wires
I converter it to twist lock cables
The duty cycles not very long
Let's face it its not a big Miller 440 volt unit.
These are just cheap buzz boxes.
Lincoln should go back to using copper coils as a buyer its worth it to have a longer cycle time.
You can also offer a budget version
Like this one.
The duty cycle times are actually better with the aluminum. The first units were 180amp peak with copper and a 20% duty cycle. They put a fan and aluminum and it were able to jump the amperage up to 225amps at 20%. I have used both copper winding and aluminum winding stick machines and honestly there is no noticeable difference. The electricity doesn't care what it has to go through to get out. I tried the copper lead machine and this aluminum lead machine side by side and no difference. The funny thing is everyone that I talk to that has an older Lincoln 225 buzz box will say " I have a good old one with copper windings. It's much better than the new Lincolns" . Problem with that is Lincoln never made a 225 with copper so the placebo effect is real.
Amazing job!
The noises in the background of the opening video were kind of awesome and reminded me of a video game. Like a 80's version of Grand theft Auto except you get points by driving around finding great junk!
Classic. I thought the same thing
I missed an idealarc 250 welder with 50' cables. 200$☹️☹️
I have sa200 Lincoln and a few others. Plus a Lincoln AC from the 50's but it has a flat top and rounded on the sides. Not like a tombstone Lincoln.
Nice job as always 👍
Dang. With all these electric vehicles and stuff like that copper prices are bound to just double or triple in the future. Probably my favorite one was buying a tombstone 10-15 years ago for 50 bucks and as I was going to leave the guy asked if I wanted the extension cords as well. He said I had to dig him out of the garage though because they were heavy. Nearly 150 ft of 6 gauge extension cord. It was heavy for sure.
that feeling when you can't get your truck turned around fast enough.
So true.
Your dog is so cool!😎
Thanks!
Nice job. Thanks for the videos.
Another great job Moe!!!! 🏁🏁🏁
Appreciate that
Nice save.
Thanks!
Looks good. You should look into Scrubs graffiti wipes. They work awesome at removing spray paint and over spray. I love them and they smell awesome.
I will do. Thanks for the heads up as I'm always cleaning stuff like this.
1 part orange oil (limonene) mixed with maybe 5 parts isopropyl works great. Some jerk decided to tag my car and it wiped right off.
VERY NICE REPAIR !!!!~~~~
Thanks 👍
Can anything kill them? Yes indeed.
Many years ago I was maintenance in a shop and they had a lot of these mounted to benches. They are very simple, a transformer with many
‘ taps ‘ for different amperage connected to a multi - position switch to chose which ‘ tap ‘ you want.
The tap wires for the lower amperage were quite small in comparison to the higher amp wires. They used a small motor like one used in a record player to blow a little air around.
In the shop they were in they used to spray paint the machines we built and the guys painting after hours NEVER checked to turn things off and the welder fans used to get loaded with paint overspray.
The paint gummed up the fans and they quit working.
The thing that used to kill these welders was the cheap fans not working and people welding at maximum amperage with no fan and overheating them. The other thing was stingers falling on the bench and shorting with no one noticing until the smaller wires were smoking and burning up
( 90 amp wire was always first to get smoked )
I used to mix and match parts to keep them going, tape the melted wires, actually get record player motors out of the trash to use for the fans, and I remember having one old beater I was trying to make usable , it worked but the whole transformer frame was hot , electrically. 200 volts
You're awesome...again!
You rock!
When Ginger dropped the face shield off, she looked like a lot of the welders at my work place, they'd rather do other stuff (like sit around) than weld. She could probably weld better too. 🤣
Hey Bubba, did you bring the welder?
Yeah, I threw it in the back of the truck!
Dang, where’d it go?
Lol
Cool .
Ginger is so awesome, your not bad either. Nice restore even though you say you didn't restore it.
It would be interesting to measure the voltage drop under load between the output of the transformer & the welding clamp. on the load using the CCA wires. I have neighbors who wonder why my 24 foot jumper cables will start cars & trucks of all types & theirs won't! I use finely stranded copper wire cables, & they buy the CCA jumpers from Walmart. I also use a hydraulic crimper to install the clamps & the internal connectors. I enjoy your videos very much, & I bet the
engineers & Master electricians are on Malox & Nitro Glycerin for some of your fixes. Great video !
I actually had two of the exact same welders in the shop at the time of filming this. One with copper leads 5awg and this one with CCA 4awg. There was no difference in welds. CCA you have to run larger to equal copper for sure. The rule of thumb is 2awg but it drops as you get to the larger gauges. Jumper cables have a huge variance in quality. Unless someone goes out of their way to buy a top of the line set or makes them like you; they're junk.
I have an old Lincoln 225 amp arc welder that someone left sitting out in the weather for years. Now the transformer is dead as a hammer. I have 240 volt going all the way to the coil, but the transformer doesn't hum at all or have any output. Can you give me an idea of how to procede? Thank you!
Well done amigo 👍
I had one of those two and a quarter tombstone welders about 30 years ago. Wish I had never sold it! :( Got $50 Cdn. for it.
Nice Job
It's not that Ginger can't weld, I just don't think she was into it that day. But I believe in her.
That's awesome! What was the total all in cost to get fixed and running?
Not including things you already had.
$23 bucks. I only had to buy the stinger and leads.
@@sixtyfiveford that's awesome!
CCA wire has a flex problem and they will break far earlier than solid copper wires. That's an excellent deal to get a nice, working Tombstone for the price of a U-turn and an hour of work. Score! Is it time to make a bending brake? (Yeah, me, too.)
I debated the flex issue and I think I read it roughly 2x more likely to fatigue or 1/2 the life. But it seams copper never breaks so half of eternity is.......... ? sarcasm...
I've had a brake on my list forever. Problem is the room they take up and where do I stop in width. 2foot? 3foot? maybe 5foot to be safe? Then the double bends become an issue and you need to build a finger brake. I keep getting lost in my needs and reality and space consumption.
Should the conductor be heated before dipping it into the liquid solder in the lug?
The problem is aluminum dissipates heat so fast you're not able to heat it like copper. So I dipped it in, let it sit and then I heated up the assembly again.
@@sixtyfiveford Nice! No cold joints! I figured there was more heat at some point. Great content, I enjoy the straightforward approach. Also: great dog! 👍🏼
That’s wicked lucky!!! I get happy when I find a hammer
I was shocked
I'd give you a 9.5 on the u-turn 😆 awesome refurbish job and how to save money !!!
I need to try harder next time to get a perfect 10.
Those welders are always way more expensive in my area!
You know what a Lincoln ln 8 wire feeder is. Would one them tombstone run it. My dad's buddy gave me one that's old but not a lot hours on it. He was welder in umwa bought it new years ago. Has 60# spool flux wire and spool holder round steel case. He kept the leads, whip stinger. But shoot free and not junked. Expensive little unit in it's day. Still command a price used. Thanks love the channel
It might, if that version of the LN8 can run on CC. Some of them have a switch to select for CC/CV. Needs constant voltage to run a wire feeder in short arc mode
@@MegaDysart cool I'll check it out . Where would it be switch or is how it's wired up
I got one of those welders second hand brand new, the seller bought it but didn’t have 240V wired in his garage, so I got it for 200$ CAD. 😊
Awesome
Excellent!!!
Hey thanks
I bet those aluminum leads won't last long, strands will probably break apart
Workshop MacGyver strikes again! Good job
Thanks
Skookum hole shrinker! 🤘