I don't know why this tank was such a problem for everyone when things like the Object 705A exist that also has an unpenetrable turret, sides, upper hull. But the mino with strong turret is the big deal? The Armor was this tanks only selling point. It's like taking an FV4005 and making the HESH deal 600dmg less but hey, it's okay bcs it's still highest in game alpha right? This is just stupid.
Maybe its just me, but the Minotauro feels A LOT more mobile compared to before, and the nerf to the cupolas aren't as bad as people say they are. Now that the Minotauro is a lot more mobile, you can actually wiggle your tank/turret between shells unlike before. I believe Scorpiany said that this rework was a buff for good players but a nerf for bad players and I actually agree with him.
Which would be the first time ever that wargaming made the game less noob friendly. I'm sure they will make amends by buffing the pen of the heat shells to 400mm and then nerfing the accuracy of the gun
It was a nerf, make no mistake about it. If you face a player with good aim and more than 300 penetration it is likely game over now if you can't retreat or eliminate him quickly.
@@wdujsub7902 probably its how it should be now. I just find this statement so stupid that it would be better for better players now. It's worse for everyone, but better players can cope better obviously.
It's nice to see WG actually adjusting the armor layout of a tank instead of turning it into a total pile of garbage that nobody wants to play, but is still borderline unkillable hulldown, like Kran.
This TD is still powerful but not the powerhouse it was before. It's a little bit more nimble but honestly, the difference isn't as much as many might think. At least you won't sit in front of the whole team knowing you are invincible lol
The difference is before you needed gold ammo to pen the cupola weakspot. Now you can do it with regular rounds 240+ AP is enough. So before it was only effective armor vs ppl who didn't aim or spam gold.
for me its better now, more nimble and mobile,you will still bounce,and those cupolas are not easy to hit. mobility was bigger buff than armor nerf. opinions will vary from player to player.
What do you mean the changes are minimal. What do you mean the tank is not ruined? The ONLY good think about it was the good hull down. Now when they look you in the face you get rekt. Why would I play it anymore? 03:10 ... THIS is not okay.
How is that not okay? You really think Minotauro should be absolutely invincible hull down? You can only reliably pen those frontal cupolas with gold, which is such a scummy move by WG. They progressively add more and more "gold" weak points, which you can't pen with regular rounds. The meta we have now - sit hull down and spam GOLD AT WEAK POINTS of other hull down tanks is so damn boring and stupid.
I have sold it for the BASSOTTO, more fun even tier 6. Against TD or heavies with gun accurracy i was always hittes with new wig spots. Bassotto 5 stars is deserve and more fun for me 😊
That maybe the case but the nerf changed the one stat this tank was actually good at, sitting in-front of enemies. I.e., this tank has not good dpm, has not good pen (for TD), gun soft-stats are bad and below average damage per shot (for TD), this is the trade-off for the armor. You have to be up and close to be reliable with the gun. Compared to HT - which may be the role intended - it has less HP and is not that mobile. So no bueno there. What is the purpose now that it can't play the role it was designed to. Its just a slow heavy with somewhat good armor - however, show me just one T10 match where there is not gold flying around as standard all the time - but everything worse elsewhere, coupled with a unreliable gun. IMO the "nerf" did more than change some statistics but make the tank less useful for the "one reason" it exists.
It feels way less reliable now, the E3 is now better imo. Still, with the better mobility and no nerf (thank you for that) to the gun it can still have many great games.
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I quit playing right before this tank came out and even I could tell that the mino was worse than the badger. With the mobility buffed and the cupolas nerfed it's either a tiny buff or a large nerf, will be interesting to see where it lands.
Now they need to fix the progetto 65 since it was over nerfed... Subtle well balanced nerfs like this is much better and I think everyone appreciates it at the end of the day
Expected this rating, WG nerves tank, content creators sell the changes as still playable. And yeah it‘s not the worst tank now, so be happy! Don’t compare to the best tanks, compare to the worst tanks, lol I like skill, but that’s nonsense
@@iybizuku1366 what does that mean? Skills rating is only for the „ skilled“ players? What percentage of players do you think are skilled? I thought this game needs more and new players, so a nerv for the upperclass makes no sense
just sick of this wargaming. bring overpowered tanks onto the market, you invest time and money on these tanks and then they are nerfed. it's all just mindless rip-offs.
So tired of the BS Cupola damage, as reality, the cupola doesn't impact the tank or crew, in reality. So much for WOT's ability to recreate tanks, real or paper design
Wargaming try not to ruin a tank that isn't even OP and it's purpose is to play hulldown. Most maps are city maps where u cannot play hulldown so this nerf is useless and they decided to be assholes. It would be nice if they were to nerf the Skoda T56, BZ-176 and other tanks.
@@tobiasL1991 which is the reason why many people leave the game. This is why there should be made a petition to nerf every OP premium tank. If not then everyone will just leave the game causing it to lose money, but ofc no one will do that because they enjoy trolling with OP tanks.
@@unittool2098 exactly, w those cases they js show that they want you to gamble your way on getting a new tank, meaning you'll get a new OP amazing tank and you'll be happy, so you'll do it again and again which means profit for wargaming
It is a positive change to me. Honestly tired of aiming at pixel cupolas. BZ is a premium so not likely lol. I am sure that 95% of people who bought that tank were seeking that dumb playstyle
Igor finally put the bottle down. Good job wargaming because this was a solid patch.
If WG managed to "balance" (nerf) a tank properly, it is a miracle.
I don't know why this tank was such a problem for everyone when things like the Object 705A exist that also has an unpenetrable turret, sides, upper hull. But the mino with strong turret is the big deal? The Armor was this tanks only selling point. It's like taking an FV4005 and making the HESH deal 600dmg less but hey, it's okay bcs it's still highest in game alpha right? This is just stupid.
1 example of stupid nerf by WG - X tier Progetto
Maybe its just me, but the Minotauro feels A LOT more mobile compared to before, and the nerf to the cupolas aren't as bad as people say they are. Now that the Minotauro is a lot more mobile, you can actually wiggle your tank/turret between shells unlike before.
I believe Scorpiany said that this rework was a buff for good players but a nerf for bad players and I actually agree with him.
Which would be the first time ever that wargaming made the game less noob friendly. I'm sure they will make amends by buffing the pen of the heat shells to 400mm and then nerfing the accuracy of the gun
The HP/t buff is basically 10% more and the turning speed is about 20%, you will notice it.
It was a nerf, make no mistake about it. If you face a player with good aim and more than 300 penetration it is likely game over now if you can't retreat or eliminate him quickly.
@@casuscnactus4864 and is there something wrong about it?
@@wdujsub7902 probably its how it should be now. I just find this statement so stupid that it would be better for better players now. It's worse for everyone, but better players can cope better obviously.
It's nice to see WG actually adjusting the armor layout of a tank instead of turning it into a total pile of garbage that nobody wants to play, but is still borderline unkillable hulldown, like Kran.
Seriously, I wish they'd revisit the Kran.
This TD is still powerful but not the powerhouse it was before. It's a little bit more nimble but honestly, the difference isn't as much as many might think. At least you won't sit in front of the whole team knowing you are invincible lol
I used to play this tank everyday, the gun is bad but has good armor to keep up with the meta. Now you have more weakspots+bad gun handling= garbage
They nerf it and was stupid. That tank have only armor and on hull down. Now is shit. Why they dont nerf rusian tanks or taht what get in CW
The difference is before you needed gold ammo to pen the cupola weakspot. Now you can do it with regular rounds 240+ AP is enough. So before it was only effective armor vs ppl who didn't aim or spam gold.
for me its better now, more nimble and mobile,you will still bounce,and those cupolas are not easy to hit. mobility was bigger buff than armor nerf. opinions will vary from player to player.
What do you mean the changes are minimal. What do you mean the tank is not ruined? The ONLY good think about it was the good hull down. Now when they look you in the face you get rekt. Why would I play it anymore? 03:10 ... THIS is not okay.
Skill issue
How is that not okay? You really think Minotauro should be absolutely invincible hull down? You can only reliably pen those frontal cupolas with gold, which is such a scummy move by WG. They progressively add more and more "gold" weak points, which you can't pen with regular rounds. The meta we have now - sit hull down and spam GOLD AT WEAK POINTS of other hull down tanks is so damn boring and stupid.
The tank has likely been "reworked", slightly nerfed but not that big impact on the playstyle. Unlike what they did to the kranvagn
I have sold it for the BASSOTTO, more fun even tier 6. Against TD or heavies with gun accurracy i was always hittes with new wig spots. Bassotto 5 stars is deserve and more fun for me 😊
You can really feel the +6 traverse speed imo
Lol, my experience with this tank is that it can't hit shit closer than 200, but it hits like a laser rifle beyond 300m.
That maybe the case but the nerf changed the one stat this tank was actually good at, sitting in-front of enemies. I.e., this tank has not good dpm, has not good pen (for TD), gun soft-stats are bad and below average damage per shot (for TD), this is the trade-off for the armor. You have to be up and close to be reliable with the gun. Compared to HT - which may be the role intended - it has less HP and is not that mobile. So no bueno there. What is the purpose now that it can't play the role it was designed to. Its just a slow heavy with somewhat good armor - however, show me just one T10 match where there is not gold flying around as standard all the time - but everything worse elsewhere, coupled with a unreliable gun.
IMO the "nerf" did more than change some statistics but make the tank less useful for the "one reason" it exists.
It feels way less reliable now, the E3 is now better imo. Still, with the better mobility and no nerf (thank you for that) to the gun it can still have many great games.
E3 cupola is larger target and gold still goes through it easily.
@@SilverforceX You hit and pen that reliably? I'm glad, because it seems I have never faced you with my E3 then :p
@@casuscnactus4864bruh literally every heavy tank I meet pens my E3 cupola it's ridiculous, can't even sit hull down
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I quit playing right before this tank came out and even I could tell that the mino was worse than the badger.
With the mobility buffed and the cupolas nerfed it's either a tiny buff or a large nerf, will be interesting to see where it lands.
Good, now buff BZ 75
Three big weak spots on top, to trashbin it goes. WG really has hate boner for Italian tanks.
You should reconsider it. The tank is good, not OP as it was. If you can not use it properly, that's not the tank's fault.
this tank need a buff now not really peaking in any stat feels sluggish
What is the recommended equipments for Minotauro after these nerfs?
Now they need to fix the progetto 65 since it was over nerfed...
Subtle well balanced nerfs like this is much better and I think everyone appreciates it at the end of the day
looks a lot more balanced now tbh
I'm waiting only for 1 thing. First tier 8 spg premium
Dont give wg ideas. they will probably sell a premium tier 2 arty via a 100€ bundle
70mm less armor is minor?
They nerfed this tank just to come out with the polish td which is more overpowered
Gun handling is what made me sell this thing
Dont think it be NERF now :)) still hard to kill
wg should buff the interclip reload to 5s ....
Expected this rating, WG nerves tank, content creators sell the changes as still playable. And yeah it‘s not the worst tank now, so be happy! Don’t compare to the best tanks, compare to the worst tanks, lol
I like skill, but that’s nonsense
"nerves"
@@asdasd-tx8qh ok that changes everything 😂
But thank you
@@drompimccoy9501skill issue
@@iybizuku1366 what does that mean? Skills rating is only for the „ skilled“ players?
What percentage of players do you think are skilled?
I thought this game needs more and new players, so a nerv for the upperclass makes no sense
Buying the Stb1 when i have Centurion Ax?
Skill how dare you to put Arnold in Minotauro
They know how to balance minotauro but not BZ176 lol
First video that I dislike. Wg did a shit job with this nerf.
what is ' supera dupera hipera ~~' ??
My humble opinion is nerfs are good.
For me ing stats are unchanged🤔❤ Shell spedd is same before nerf😂
I swear to god wg has a beef with Italian people
Watch them gagging as they rush you to kill you as you try too shoot and long reloading wasting my time once spotted
WG call this NERF? 🤣🤦 Still too powerfull. And S.Conq. is still nonsens. No move for Bright future. Meh
thanks for your report
WG lets keep churning out tanks.. (later)......... WG lets make all the tanks play the same......... Its laughable!!!!!
Is game over!
Hi skill
minotauro e premiun ??
feels like used to unkillable op tank now it's like just op tank
war thunder and wot are garbage but I prefer war thunder because it still maintains the realism factor
No one asked and no one cares
just sick of this wargaming. bring overpowered tanks onto the market, you invest time and money on these tanks and then they are nerfed. it's all just mindless rip-offs.
So tired of the BS Cupola damage, as reality, the cupola doesn't impact the tank or crew, in reality. So much for WOT's ability to recreate tanks, real or paper design
Wargaming try not to ruin a tank that isn't even OP and it's purpose is to play hulldown. Most maps are city maps where u cannot play hulldown so this nerf is useless and they decided to be assholes. It would be nice if they were to nerf the Skoda T56, BZ-176 and other tanks.
They almost never nerf premium tanks, so don't hold your breath on that.
They want to show up their asses that they love putting the money in the hole.
@@tobiasL1991 which is the reason why many people leave the game. This is why there should be made a petition to nerf every OP premium tank. If not then everyone will just leave the game causing it to lose money, but ofc no one will do that because they enjoy trolling with OP tanks.
@@unittool2098 exactly, w those cases they js show that they want you to gamble your way on getting a new tank, meaning you'll get a new OP amazing tank and you'll be happy, so you'll do it again and again which means profit for wargaming
It is a positive change to me. Honestly tired of aiming at pixel cupolas. BZ is a premium so not likely lol. I am sure that 95% of people who bought that tank were seeking that dumb playstyle
So is it shit? Lol
nope
Does it seem shit to you ?
it is useless now
to be fair mino gun is garbage, the armor is all this tank had, now 3 weak points, should of buffed the gun. trash can this tank go's
...people still play this shitty game?
Ye