Just so you know you are doing the mechanic somewhat wrong. You're supposed to stay near the boss in the white pentagon thing he spawns. The balls then come to you. If you stay outside like you do, thunders come out and sometimes stun a person which can lead to wipe.
shesh, I like that there are helpful guide makers, but I'm noticing a pattern with this persons guides. Leaving out information or giving info that is not as ideal as the best strat. Worrisome. This is why I watch several guides and read comments.
@@Moogle The Reference is to the third boss. The video shows him on the outskirts standing where the orbs spawn. While it can be done this way, it actually just makes it a bit more difficult on the players. So instead of standing on the spawn location, it'd be easier to stand between it and the boss so it comes to you.
Exacty. He doesnt talk about a bunch of bullshit that nobody cares about like many others. I just wanna know about the mechanics thats its idc about what u had for dinner or whatever.
I have seen my share of unnecessarily toxic people in this dungeon too, people who flame and complain after the first or second wipe. When me and my friends do it with a couple of randoms and we keep wiping, we just politely ask in chat whether everyone knows how the mechanic works and that theres no shame in admitting you dont, and we gladly explain it if needed, and we usually clear it on the third try or so. We did end up getting pretty pissed off at one guy who wouldnt communicate and was apparently just too damn dense. This dude cost us almost 2 hours of our lives, we kept wiping because of him. Its just disheartening when you are on attempt 15 or something and while youre making your round collecting your orbs you see this dude running counter clockwise...like cmon dude. So at a certain point, I get it when frustration arises, but only if it becomes excessive and its obviously one dude who is just too damn dense and keeps screwing up despite multiple polite attempts to help him out.
TIP: for the final boss stand in your position but close to the boss so you can see where the coloured orbs shoot out from the circle other wise you won't be able to tell if you consumed the orb to move on to the next one. Wiped 3 times because of this i felt so bad
ppl still dont know what stagger check is , so they even fail 10x times before giving up on first boss.... when i try to explain , they wont listen or just rage at me or just being toxic
Tip for 3 boss, don't stay straight on the center of the spawning balls portals, stay by the side of them so you catch flying balls easier and have more time to moving, smaller circle= less u have to move.
With a random grop we killed first 2 bosses, i had no idea where am I, on the third boss the group was wiped out because of me like 5 times and they hated me so much. So the best way to learn this mech is to find a patient party, who watched this video (and read the comments). It all happens so fast, before I start collecting balls, the party is dead. And all you have to do is collect 4 balls 2 times. They called me extremely stupid, not extremely slow lol.
@@insertname9554 Tried it with a mm group,6 tries. had 5 guys attacking the boss while he had the shield up instead of killing the mages and then didnt even attack him in the stagger check.
@@chaletamale nah or people just don’t have the time to bang their heads against a wall when it’s not even that hard to begin with. In my raids in wow you had 3 chances then your gone
Wiped last week because i had no clue wtf ppl were screaming at me for when it came to sorting out standing positions and NOBODY told me what its for. This guide is great to understand so gona try it now. Wish me luck.
At 3:59 note the lighter-colored ring around the boss, halfway between the boss and where the orbs spawn, that is not there during the first round of the rotation mechanic (3:24). This will slow you and do high amounts of damage, so you cannot use this middle area as your "running lane" in the second round. You can either collect orbs way far out at the distance where they spawn, or stay very close to the boss while you rotate and collect your orbs. Staying closer to the boss is preferred, since you only have to run a short distance between orbs, so it's more forgiving of mistakes and slower running. But all 8 of you don't all have to make the same choice, nor do you have to split evenly between close and far. (also do NOT tell your pugs this lol but on multiple occasions I've seen orbs go through and then we didn't wipe, so there may be some allowance that your group can miss one or two and it doesn't matter)
actually annoys me how you basically need to find a party for this instead of just matchmaking. the amount of times i lose because people simply dont know what to do even after explaining it is the most tilting thing
I mean is it really that annoying? The game would be insanely boring if mid-end game bosses/raids had no complex mechanics. If people didn't do their due diligence, just leave.
@@stra2g no the mechanics aren't annoying its just people not actually looking at a 5 minute guide are people really that lazy to look at a 5 minute guide
looking at these videos without experiencing the fight it's scary but once you actually fight it's not that bad ,most of the mechanics are just dodging damage and then there is one or two specific mechanics like the balls thing , but other than that it's not a big deal you get used to it .
you don't have to go to the wall dude. i just made a fool of myself following your guide. you can just sit near the monster and this way it's faster to attack after the mechanic finishes
I love lost ark, but holy shit the game does a piss poor job of explaining how to do ANYTHING. these mechanics are very advanced and when you have 8 human players, shit is bound to go wrong lol.
CAUTION! I have numerous raids wiped because people were following this video. Before watching this video, please note that his videos are short but are explained poorly, don't use the proper strat, and there is a lot of missing core information, not only for this video his other videos as well. 1st boss, parties NEED to split into 2 groups to kill the mages, there simply isn't enough time to do them one at a time unless you are extremely overgeared. Also, you don't simply DO DAMAGE! the mages have shields, you have to use DESTRUCTION SKILLS to break these shields. 3rd boss, you don't stand on the BALL LOCATION, you should stand in the pentagon, basic geometry, the smaller the diameter the smaller the circumference that needs to be traveled. You are basically screwed if you are an immobile class with debuffs. Just some feedback. Next time please get your videos vetted by someone who actually knows how to do it properly. Also, you are speaking too fast and your accent is too thick, it would be a lot easier to understand if you annotate your videos.
@@missquprison And that is your opinion, not a fact, so stop putting it off that way. He has a lisp, and rushing his videos is a fact. I had a hard time understanding him and had to reduce the playback speed, that is my experience. Whether or not he takes my feedback is up to him, this is not a hate thread, just constructive feedback, so what is the point of your reply?
@@georgian6 you can give feedback, but when I do this you throw a tantrum. Oh ok then. I havent even mention anything about the video being rushed, but uh oh ok cool. My comment was an opinion, wow no shit. All I said is he's not that hard to understand and you cry about it grow up.
@@missquprison *edit. and ofcourse he deletes his reply...* Why are you still typing to me? Using '100%' and 'infact' has implications, you are not giving your opinion when you word your sentences like that, phrase your comment better next time, you aren't representing the majority. I want you to reread my comments and tell me who is throwing a tantrum. No one is throwing a tantrum here except you right now, I don't even understand why you are being so defensive in the first place, just because I questioned the intent of your comment? Just stop strawmanning, accept your mistake and move on, I'm not going to bother to argue with you if you can't think and type properly. He has a lisp and rushing his videos by talking faster doesn't help with clarity is that so hard to accept?
There are a lot of things wrong with this video. When the comment section is continuously fixing your video's mistakes.. it's time to stop making videos.
My third week and I cannot finish this dungeon, less than 30 ilvl for tier 3. There is ALWAYS a single player that can destroy the other 7 by not knowing the fights. And yes, I do not have friends or guildies that can clear with me.
it's not impossible in matchmaking! just got a pretty patient group that helped the one or two who hadnt bothered to watch this and ended up clearing within a few wipes of the final boss! I liked this one, these abyssals are starting to get more fun!
I dont understand why they didnt nerf the first boss in this dungeon. A random party simply cant do that tight of a stagger check. All the other nerfs for so not needed, but where it was actually needed they didnt nerf.
@@jormungandr4690 The first boss is fairly easy but try to coordinate the third boss with those yellow and white orbs, always ends in a catastrophe for me with randoms.
@@FreyjaNjord I’ve found that nobody really wants to set things up beforehand. In matchmaking you have to wipe at least once before people decide they should discuss x and y clear conditions for the fight. By the time the gung ho Andy’s figure out there’s mechs they need to do for the group to clear, they’re usually willing to learn
i don't like those 1 person makes a mistake = wipe kind of mechanics, it's really bad fight design and looks like this game does it very often. The person failing should be the only one dieing, and if too many people dies, then it should be undoable, but 1 out of 4, or 2 out of 8 people should be able to fail without having to restart.
@S nobody said anything about making it easier. Look at FF14 ultimates or at wow mythic raiding. Nobody can wipe the whole raid, they just kill themselves, and if this happens too much, then you can't beat the encounter. And the examples i put are 1000000000 harder than lost ark.
@S Jeez if this is easy then this might be as far as I go. I don't even understand what to do after watching the video lol my brain doesnt work that fast
I hate these, I just really do. I'm watching this and I don't even see the things pointed out at all. These abyss mechanics are punishing for slower movement classes disproportionally :(
just a heads up to everyone thinking this is too hard, it is surprisingly easy after you've done it a couple times and coordinate correctly. i personally was able to do it within just 5 wipes with a random party
actually tried it just now and the group quit on the first boss. Stagger check failed multiple times. The amount of cc in those dungeons is beyond me and oxy is getting junked down to zero with some of his attacks (which also has cc so you are lying on the floor without oxy. Takes like 3 oxy damage ticks to get killed). I am sure with some routine this might be getting easier but the high pacing the amount of the effects from the boss as well as your team mates does make this a very hard experience in my opinion.
this easiest to understand than other video same guide about Tranquil Karkosa mecha guide, English bad, don't understand what they are talking about lol thx man, did u got full mecha other dungeon? i think ill watch ur guide all lol
Can anyone please tell me what he is saying at 0:52. His pronunciation is really hard to understand. My party got really irritated with me because you failed to mention the damage ring on the second wipe gimick for the third boss so thanks for that. It's really not something that should be left out. TBH it just looks like part of the animation for the gimick and is really hard to tell you need to avoid it.
usually ur guides are great but this left out some good info like optimal place to stand for orb collection and the enemy aoe on second orb phase. Ruining a lot of runs
should've completed this a long time ago, need to get it done so I can do the next for the 15th giant heart and there's not enough players in matchmaking for the raid to start
Ok am I blind or what? 3rd boss you say consume a ball and rotate, all I c you are doing is rotating. Not one orb/ball came at you. Could you elaborate please. I have not done this dungeon yet.
oh cmon, this is just sadistic... I have ZERO fun in abyss dungeons. Just did Sea of Indolence because of new quest line demads it, and I thought that was it. But no, now the quest line demands this s**t? No freaking way. Maybe with item level 5000 someday later when its on 1 hit kill before all this maddnes even start. Anyway thanks for video, you spared me some nerves.
Had one soso wipe grp after 4 attempts I did well I think but looked like we had a bot in grp. 2nd grp ppl afk. 3rd grp we owned it. TY for great guide :D
I think this Abyssal might be the end of progression for me... Was hoping I could go further in the game with just solo/ matchmaking, but this seems way too rough to pug... Guess I'm a chaos dungeon only player from now on.
If no one is listening, you may also just be explaining it poorly. Just did it myself for the first time, and I pulled up the guide as I made it to the 3rd boss, watched 10-15 seconds then proceeded to explain the mechanics to the group. They messed up 2 times, then had it down. Just takes a decent explanation and maybe a few attempts for those that are slower. Also gotta remember, not everyone speaks or understands low detail lazy style of typing people often use with in-game messaging. So if you happen to be one of those, then of course people aren't gonna listen if they can't understand what you're saying. If you're not though, just try your best to clearly explain the mechanics. Everyone will appreciate it and it'll likely result in a fun clear with the group you get matched with.
@@Shikatsuyatsuke I explain it before hand and even expect wipes the first like 3 times but the group I was on just was not picking it up and we all voted to abandon the instance. Wiping is not the issue exactly but when nothing changes after explaining it again after each wipe even I get jaded.
I swear this dungeon is a disaster, no game should have wipe mechanics if you're playing with randoms. We explained the last boss about 5 times, and he alone took us about 50 minutes to kill, just because one person refused to listen.
This should be impossible to do with random people.. All it takes is one out of the eight people who won't know what to do, to wipe out the whole group.
Its devs fault, they create same failed ways to kill boses, because of this things ppl leave games, uninstall. The ppl wants to be able to cast skill and enjoy playing their builds as much as they can, and they cant because all the mmos copy this stupid strategy to wipe the group..., most of the mmos wich implemented this mechanics to kill boses, are dead.
@@AparatorulPoporului I agree my friend. The main purpose of gaming is to have fun and enjoy your character. These kind of mechanics are anti fun. There shouldn't be so many "one mistake wipe" mechanics in the game.
This is why being able to see the dislikes is so important, because if I didn't see them I would not have scrolled down to the comments to see the better strat for the third boss.
Ok if anyone says that the explanation during the dungeon is good enough... please quit. This is terrible game design... I mean the design is good, but the lack of explanation during the game is fucking terrible. ~If your game require you to go out of the game to understand something it's terrible game design...
Yeah, it's pretty bad. I think the dilemma about it comes from the potential issue that if the mechanics are reasonable enough to figure out without a guide, they become too easy once people know the mechanics, but if the mechanics are harder to figure out without a guide to make it more challenging once you do know about them, then they're going to feel awful the firs time round. That said, they still feel pretty problematic because if you don't know them you'll surely wipe a few times and if you do know them they border on easy to somewhat bothersome.
the 3rd boss is gonna break me as a solo-queue person whose friends are stuck in T1 :( anyone know an active discord? hate how we we cant replay abyss dungeons after clearing weekly
You only rotate twice before you hold off. 1st orb, then rotate for 2nd orb, then rotate for 3rd and hold for an orb. If you’re doing it right it should be rotate, rotate, stay, rotate
this guide was awsome untill 3:14 i have no fucking idea what he said. Got conserned and had to look for a different guide. I'm sorry. But you seem to be legit thumbs up!
Some of your attacks do stagger damage, if you check your skills it can say "stagger: Mid-high" For example. During a stagger check you have to basically use all your stagger skills so the boss gets immobilized
@@MidnightGrabber To stagger means you make him less mobile, some of your attacks inflict stagger on the boss and you need to deplete the meter to get him into this phase
Ngl, I hate this guide. Misses some critical details like needing to use weakpoint skills to break the magician shields. Going to stop reading these and just go to maxroll.
Third boss is completley wrong and he needs to either edit this video or take it down. The amount of arguements I've got into people trying to do the third mechanic as they're telling me to watch a guide and this guy has explained it wrong!
@@Kuolitee I'll quote another user "Just so you know you are doing the mechanic somewhat wrong. You're supposed to stay near the boss in the white pentagon thing he spawns. The balls then come to you. If you stay outside like you do, thunders come out and sometimes stun a person which can lead to wipe. "
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"here is what the pistol looks like instead" - shows a blurred image of nothing discernable. come on buddy
i thought that too.
Watching before entering for the first time with randoms. It will be loooong day xD
Just so you know you are doing the mechanic somewhat wrong. You're supposed to stay near the boss in the white pentagon thing he spawns. The balls then come to you. If you stay outside like you do, thunders come out and sometimes stun a person which can lead to wipe.
^this
this is so right, many people follow this video and they end up failing, u have to be close to the boss and let orb come to you
shesh, I like that there are helpful guide makers, but I'm noticing a pattern with this persons guides. Leaving out information or giving info that is not as ideal as the best strat. Worrisome. This is why I watch several guides and read comments.
ngl I have no idea what mechanic you are referring to
@@Moogle The Reference is to the third boss. The video shows him on the outskirts standing where the orbs spawn. While it can be done this way, it actually just makes it a bit more difficult on the players. So instead of standing on the spawn location, it'd be easier to stand between it and the boss so it comes to you.
love your straight to the point videos. you're my source for these guides.
Exacty. He doesnt talk about a bunch of bullshit that nobody cares about like many others. I just wanna know about the mechanics thats its idc about what u had for dinner or whatever.
This dungeon has been one of the most toxic experiences ever. People flame instantly.
I agree cause if you mess up you getting yelled at :( i still cant beat the third one!
I have seen my share of unnecessarily toxic people in this dungeon too, people who flame and complain after the first or second wipe. When me and my friends do it with a couple of randoms and we keep wiping, we just politely ask in chat whether everyone knows how the mechanic works and that theres no shame in admitting you dont, and we gladly explain it if needed, and we usually clear it on the third try or so. We did end up getting pretty pissed off at one guy who wouldnt communicate and was apparently just too damn dense. This dude cost us almost 2 hours of our lives, we kept wiping because of him. Its just disheartening when you are on attempt 15 or something and while youre making your round collecting your orbs you see this dude running counter clockwise...like cmon dude. So at a certain point, I get it when frustration arises, but only if it becomes excessive and its obviously one dude who is just too damn dense and keeps screwing up despite multiple polite attempts to help him out.
It was not that bad (as I expected) with randoms in finding party, we got it around 25-30 min total with 4-5 extra tries
TIP: for the final boss stand in your position but close to the boss so you can see where the coloured orbs shoot out from the circle other wise you won't be able to tell if you consumed the orb to move on to the next one. Wiped 3 times because of this i felt so bad
I loathe "1 person fails and the whole group wipes" types of mechanics so, so much....
i hate these boss fights, difficulty = watch 5min guide and repeat raid 20 times until you find a decent group
what a good experience
Love the explanation of the last boss mechanic - watched other videos and was confusing, but you cleared that up for me
There is no way in hell I'll be able to pub this one >_< Guess I better find friends
I can already tell this last boss is going to be a nightmare for pugs
ppl still dont know what stagger check is , so they even fail 10x times before giving up on first boss.... when i try to explain , they wont listen or just rage at me or just being toxic
@@antonioaugustinovic5042 I feel you. People calling me toxic for asking them to chill when they all caps spam after 1 wipe.
Tip for 3 boss, don't stay straight on the center of the spawning balls portals, stay by the side of them so you catch flying balls easier and have more time to moving, smaller circle= less u have to move.
yeah just used this video for reference and was wiping my group non stop. So one guy said to me not stay so far away from the boss
With a random grop we killed first 2 bosses, i had no idea where am I, on the third boss the group was wiped out because of me like 5 times and they hated me so much. So the best way to learn this mech is to find a patient party, who watched this video (and read the comments). It all happens so fast, before I start collecting balls, the party is dead. And all you have to do is collect 4 balls 2 times. They called me extremely stupid, not extremely slow lol.
The visuals really helped with this and your explanations are great man. Thank you.
And now you just need to find 7 scientists to pass this impossible mission. !!!!!!
i think im at the end of the road in this dungeon. impossible to do this when 98% people go in without knowing the tatics.
Did in a few tries with a mm group, it's definitely not that hard
@@insertname9554 Tried it with a mm group,6 tries. had 5 guys attacking the boss while he had the shield up instead of killing the mages and then didnt even attack him in the stagger check.
@@beamer6494 lmao that's ridiculous, hope u got em eventually
same. people just rage quit as soon as everyone fails horribly. too many mechanics for casual players to handle
@@chaletamale nah or people just don’t have the time to bang their heads against a wall when it’s not even that hard to begin with. In my raids in wow you had 3 chances then your gone
The best guides on UA-cam - short and concise! Keep it up!
Thanks man, i teach the whole party how this is works because i saw your video.
Basically the last boss's rotation is 1234 and 12334
Wiped last week because i had no clue wtf ppl were screaming at me for when it came to sorting out standing positions and NOBODY told me what its for.
This guide is great to understand so gona try it now. Wish me luck.
When talking about the anchor and pistol mechanic, you have an example of both but you cant even see the boss because he is behind the health bar
At 3:59 note the lighter-colored ring around the boss, halfway between the boss and where the orbs spawn, that is not there during the first round of the rotation mechanic (3:24). This will slow you and do high amounts of damage, so you cannot use this middle area as your "running lane" in the second round. You can either collect orbs way far out at the distance where they spawn, or stay very close to the boss while you rotate and collect your orbs. Staying closer to the boss is preferred, since you only have to run a short distance between orbs, so it's more forgiving of mistakes and slower running. But all 8 of you don't all have to make the same choice, nor do you have to split evenly between close and far. (also do NOT tell your pugs this lol but on multiple occasions I've seen orbs go through and then we didn't wipe, so there may be some allowance that your group can miss one or two and it doesn't matter)
actually annoys me how you basically need to find a party for this instead of just matchmaking. the amount of times i lose because people simply dont know what to do even after explaining it is the most tilting thing
I mean is it really that annoying?
The game would be insanely boring if mid-end game bosses/raids had no complex mechanics.
If people didn't do their due diligence, just leave.
@@stra2g no the mechanics aren't annoying its just people not actually looking at a 5 minute guide are people really that lazy to look at a 5 minute guide
@@charlesxavier4658 I was literally saying it wasn't annoying lmfao
It is quite difficult even so.
If they have on par gear for it its gonna be hard
The length of the videos on these abyssals go up every time and its kinda scary...
looking at these videos without experiencing the fight it's scary but once you actually fight it's not that bad ,most of the mechanics are just dodging damage and then there is one or two specific mechanics like the balls thing , but other than that it's not a big deal you get used to it .
you don't have to go to the wall dude. i just made a fool of myself following your guide. you can just sit near the monster and this way it's faster to attack after the mechanic finishes
same, it's actually way worse, because the boss debuffs people outside his aura and can lead to stuns
@S they were clearly referencing the final boss mechanic, not the shotgun....
I really like your guides on those dungeons. Keep up the good work.
ty for all your vids
ty, fair guide, helped to be informed
With being said, thank you for your guides. They have been incredibly helpful!
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I love lost ark, but holy shit the game does a piss poor job of explaining how to do ANYTHING. these mechanics are very advanced and when you have 8 human players, shit is bound to go wrong lol.
always stand in the blue section when the boss gives off the two red sections and one blue section. doesn't matter what is above the boss' head.
CAUTION! I have numerous raids wiped because people were following this video.
Before watching this video, please note that his videos are short but are explained poorly, don't use the proper strat, and there is a lot of missing core information, not only for this video his other videos as well.
1st boss, parties NEED to split into 2 groups to kill the mages, there simply isn't enough time to do them one at a time unless you are extremely overgeared.
Also, you don't simply DO DAMAGE! the mages have shields, you have to use DESTRUCTION SKILLS to break these shields.
3rd boss, you don't stand on the BALL LOCATION, you should stand in the pentagon, basic geometry, the smaller the diameter the smaller the circumference that needs to be traveled.
You are basically screwed if you are an immobile class with debuffs.
Just some feedback. Next time please get your videos vetted by someone who actually knows how to do it properly.
Also, you are speaking too fast and your accent is too thick, it would be a lot easier to understand if you annotate your videos.
His accent is 100% fine. In fact much easier to understand than typical NA accents
@@missquprison And that is your opinion, not a fact, so stop putting it off that way. He has a lisp, and rushing his videos is a fact. I had a hard time understanding him and had to reduce the playback speed, that is my experience. Whether or not he takes my feedback is up to him, this is not a hate thread, just constructive feedback, so what is the point of your reply?
@@missquprison I replayed what he said at :53 10 times and still dont understand what hes saying
@@georgian6 you can give feedback, but when I do this you throw a tantrum. Oh ok then. I havent even mention anything about the video being rushed, but uh oh ok cool. My comment was an opinion, wow no shit. All I said is he's not that hard to understand and you cry about it grow up.
@@missquprison *edit. and ofcourse he deletes his reply...* Why are you still typing to me? Using '100%' and 'infact' has implications, you are not giving your opinion when you word your sentences like that, phrase your comment better next time, you aren't representing the majority. I want you to reread my comments and tell me who is throwing a tantrum. No one is throwing a tantrum here except you right now, I don't even understand why you are being so defensive in the first place, just because I questioned the intent of your comment? Just stop strawmanning, accept your mistake and move on, I'm not going to bother to argue with you if you can't think and type properly. He has a lisp and rushing his videos by talking faster doesn't help with clarity is that so hard to accept?
Bro, learning all this makes me feel like i'm back in school 😅
Good job on those video guides. Very easy to understand. Thanks to you i managed to do all those bosses first try. Cheers mate
this guy is basically slayermusiq
I think with this raid I've hit a point where I need friends with voice coms which I don't have so big fat rip.
THANK YOU
There are a lot of things wrong with this video. When the comment section is continuously fixing your video's mistakes.. it's time to stop making videos.
My third week and I cannot finish this dungeon, less than 30 ilvl for tier 3. There is ALWAYS a single player that can destroy the other 7 by not knowing the fights.
And yes, I do not have friends or guildies that can clear with me.
best guides, thank you !
appreciate your guides
it's not impossible in matchmaking! just got a pretty patient group that helped the one or two who hadnt bothered to watch this and ended up clearing within a few wipes of the final boss! I liked this one, these abyssals are starting to get more fun!
I had a patient group as well, but unfortunately there's a lot of toxic people that just spread negativity towards the group.
I dont understand why they didnt nerf the first boss in this dungeon. A random party simply cant do that tight of a stagger check. All the other nerfs for so not needed, but where it was actually needed they didnt nerf.
@@jormungandr4690 The first boss is fairly easy but try to coordinate the third boss with those yellow and white orbs, always ends in a catastrophe for me with randoms.
@@FreyjaNjord I’ve found that nobody really wants to set things up beforehand. In matchmaking you have to wipe at least once before people decide they should discuss x and y clear conditions for the fight. By the time the gung ho Andy’s figure out there’s mechs they need to do for the group to clear, they’re usually willing to learn
@@hobogoat2 That's so true! Always a wipe first before they discuss, what a weird thing to do.
i don't like those 1 person makes a mistake = wipe kind of mechanics, it's really bad fight design and looks like this game does it very often. The person failing should be the only one dieing, and if too many people dies, then it should be undoable, but 1 out of 4, or 2 out of 8 people should be able to fail without having to restart.
@S nobody said anything about making it easier. Look at FF14 ultimates or at wow mythic raiding. Nobody can wipe the whole raid, they just kill themselves, and if this happens too much, then you can't beat the encounter. And the examples i put are 1000000000 harder than lost ark.
@S Jeez if this is easy then this might be as far as I go. I don't even understand what to do after watching the video lol my brain doesnt work that fast
Thanks!
This was a very clear, concise video and not only did I clear because of it, but I was able to teach my party on my first run. Subbed.
Thx!
thanks for saving me the trouble of doing this one! deff wont be attempting that bs. rofl
I hate these, I just really do. I'm watching this and I don't even see the things pointed out at all. These abyss mechanics are punishing for slower movement classes disproportionally :(
just a heads up to everyone thinking this is too hard, it is surprisingly easy after you've done it a couple times and coordinate correctly. i personally was able to do it within just 5 wipes with a random party
actually tried it just now and the group quit on the first boss. Stagger check failed multiple times. The amount of cc in those dungeons is beyond me and oxy is getting junked down to zero with some of his attacks (which also has cc so you are lying on the floor without oxy. Takes like 3 oxy damage ticks to get killed). I am sure with some routine this might be getting easier but the high pacing the amount of the effects from the boss as well as your team mates does make this a very hard experience in my opinion.
@@Zanmatou it’s definitely a filter/wall that many players won’t get past.
@@Zanmatou did you matchmake or find party?
@@leonard5119 matchmake.
@@Zanmatou yea if you go to find party and pick one its way better
THANKS YOUR INFO IS VERY IMPORTANT FOR ME. I ALWAYS DEAD BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW
this easiest to understand than other video same guide about Tranquil Karkosa mecha guide, English bad, don't understand what they are talking about lol thx man, did u got full mecha other dungeon? i think ill watch ur guide all lol
Another great guide!
Can anyone please tell me what he is saying at 0:52. His pronunciation is really hard to understand. My party got really irritated with me because you failed to mention the damage ring on the second wipe gimick for the third boss so thanks for that. It's really not something that should be left out. TBH it just looks like part of the animation for the gimick and is really hard to tell you need to avoid it.
Thanks to your guide a group of us just did this with only 3 wipes on the last boss, everything else went smoothly. Thanks ill use your guides again!
usually ur guides are great but this left out some good info like optimal place to stand for orb collection and the enemy aoe on second orb phase. Ruining a lot of runs
should've completed this a long time ago, need to get it done so I can do the next for the 15th giant heart and there's not enough players in matchmaking for the raid to start
killing the third boss is nearly impossible with strangers and beginners who do not even understand how their char works
just taught all of this over chat to 7 ppl only for one of them to go afk on the last boss :D
I hate these t1/t2 raids cause learning the mechanics feels like such a time waste you will do them 1 or 2 times and thats it lol
Ok am I blind or what? 3rd boss you say consume a ball and rotate, all I c you are doing is rotating. Not one orb/ball came at you. Could you elaborate please. I have not done this dungeon yet.
oh cmon, this is just sadistic... I have ZERO fun in abyss dungeons. Just did Sea of Indolence because of new quest line demads it, and I thought that was it. But no, now the quest line demands this s**t? No freaking way. Maybe with item level 5000 someday later when its on 1 hit kill before all this maddnes even start.
Anyway thanks for video, you spared me some nerves.
Had one soso wipe grp after 4 attempts I did well I think but looked like we had a bot in grp.
2nd grp ppl afk.
3rd grp we owned it.
TY for great guide :D
I think this Abyssal might be the end of progression for me... Was hoping I could go further in the game with just solo/ matchmaking, but this seems way too rough to pug... Guess I'm a chaos dungeon only player from now on.
You'll be fine.. took me 13 wipes to complete
Don't give up man
i feel you
yeah fuck this shit
I feel you there, the last set of abyssal raids were super fun then i see this lol
Yay I can't wait for another 8 player dungeon where people die to the same thing over and over again without listening at all.
If no one is listening, you may also just be explaining it poorly. Just did it myself for the first time, and I pulled up the guide as I made it to the 3rd boss, watched 10-15 seconds then proceeded to explain the mechanics to the group. They messed up 2 times, then had it down. Just takes a decent explanation and maybe a few attempts for those that are slower.
Also gotta remember, not everyone speaks or understands low detail lazy style of typing people often use with in-game messaging. So if you happen to be one of those, then of course people aren't gonna listen if they can't understand what you're saying. If you're not though, just try your best to clearly explain the mechanics. Everyone will appreciate it and it'll likely result in a fun clear with the group you get matched with.
@@Shikatsuyatsuke I explain it before hand and even expect wipes the first like 3 times but the group I was on just was not picking it up and we all voted to abandon the instance. Wiping is not the issue exactly but when nothing changes after explaining it again after each wipe even I get jaded.
ty
youre the goat bro
I swear this dungeon is a disaster, no game should have wipe mechanics if you're playing with randoms. We explained the last boss about 5 times, and he alone took us about 50 minutes to kill, just because one person refused to listen.
thanks for this guide, wish i had friends.
man this sounds like a nightmare
This sounds very not fun. The party wipe stuff just sucks. I need to stop playing this game.
This should be impossible to do with random people.. All it takes is one out of the eight people who won't know what to do, to wipe out the whole group.
Its devs fault, they create same failed ways to kill boses, because of this things ppl leave games, uninstall.
The ppl wants to be able to cast skill and enjoy playing their builds as much as they can, and they cant because all the mmos copy this stupid strategy to wipe the group..., most of the mmos wich implemented this mechanics to kill boses, are dead.
@@AparatorulPoporului I agree my friend. The main purpose of gaming is to have fun and enjoy your character. These kind of mechanics are anti fun. There shouldn't be so many "one mistake wipe" mechanics in the game.
i've been trying to pug this, and it's horrible. No one seems to understand nor care about the mechanics, and it's absolutely impossible
This is why being able to see the dislikes is so important, because if I didn't see them I would not have scrolled down to the comments to see the better strat for the third boss.
Ok if anyone says that the explanation during the dungeon is good enough... please quit. This is terrible game design... I mean the design is good, but the lack of explanation during the game is fucking terrible.
~If your game require you to go out of the game to understand something it's terrible game design...
Yeah, it's pretty bad. I think the dilemma about it comes from the potential issue that if the mechanics are reasonable enough to figure out without a guide, they become too easy once people know the mechanics, but if the mechanics are harder to figure out without a guide to make it more challenging once you do know about them, then they're going to feel awful the firs time round.
That said, they still feel pretty problematic because if you don't know them you'll surely wipe a few times and if you do know them they border on easy to somewhat bothersome.
OMG - this is guna be the 1st PAINNN to pug
when u are saying anchor and pistol? r u pointing at the boss or the status bar?i cant see any anchor and pistol that u r talking about
look at the boss
should be a requirement for NA players to watch your vids before being allowed to attempt abyss.....trap runs all day every day
Can you just say "when he does this, stagger him" instead of explaining that you shouldnt have to explain stagger mechanics. It would be faster.
Lmao yet you had enough time to write this
this is going to be fun in matchmaking..
oh goody cant wait to do it with an 8 man pug
nice vid
You deserve more subs dude! I bet you'll blow up when more people hit t2 content. Keep it up :D
The ball explanation was very confusing
the 3rd boss is gonna break me as a solo-queue person whose friends are stuck in T1 :( anyone know an active discord? hate how we we cant replay abyss dungeons after clearing weekly
Plz dont skip a mechanic that i should already know
A lot of ppl wont understand the english in the stagger part
you made me scare thiss boss but it was easy. u should be close to the boss when taking the second set of orbs
nice
Nice explanation
your 2nd rotation was confusing. 1st spot: 1 ball. 2nd spot: 1 ball, 3rd spot: 2 balls, 4th spot, 1 ball
Just did this, it's actually 3 rotate -> stop -> rotate for 3rd boss
You only rotate twice before you hold off. 1st orb, then rotate for 2nd orb, then rotate for 3rd and hold for an orb. If you’re doing it right it should be rotate, rotate, stay, rotate
@@hobogoat2 I've done it probably more times than you and it's rotate 3, stop 1, rotate again
Pistol attack? What’s he saying I don’t see any blue light?
He also says Pissa attack :)
this guide was awsome untill 3:14 i have no fucking idea what he said. Got conserned and had to look for a different guide. I'm sorry. But you seem to be legit thumbs up!
Can someone explain to me what staggering means please?
Some of your attacks do stagger damage, if you check your skills it can say "stagger: Mid-high" For example. During a stagger check you have to basically use all your stagger skills so the boss gets immobilized
@@MaZFX so staggering is basically just trying to do as much damage as possible when the boss is ccd?
@@MaZFX or does staggering mean that your ccing the boss
@@MidnightGrabber To stagger means you make him less mobile, some of your attacks inflict stagger on the boss and you need to deplete the meter to get him into this phase
i caused so many wipes because of this raid lmaooo
When the short versions start to have 5 minutes of explanation, you know it's about to hit the fan really bad
Ngl, I hate this guide. Misses some critical details like needing to use weakpoint skills to break the magician shields. Going to stop reading these and just go to maxroll.
Third boss is completley wrong and he needs to either edit this video or take it down. The amount of arguements I've got into people trying to do the third mechanic as they're telling me to watch a guide and this guy has explained it wrong!
Are you going to elaborate on what was explained incorrectly and what you believe is correct?
@@Kuolitee I'll quote another user
"Just so you know you are doing the mechanic somewhat wrong. You're supposed to stay near the boss in the white pentagon thing he spawns. The balls then come to you. If you stay outside like you do, thunders come out and sometimes stun a person which can lead to wipe.
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@@Greendore Thx. Good to know
There is no way to do this in matchmaking system. Party system wont work on EUC right now sadge :( Ppl dont check anything before enter.
I completed Sea of Indolence on first try just now with a complete pug party on EUC
@@Ripcraze I did in 2 hours in with same party. I dont know how many times we tried last boss