What Do Test Riders Say About the 2023 450 Shootout?
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- Опубліковано 21 лис 2022
- We've been logging hours and hours on all of the 2023 450cc motocross bikes since they first started showing up at our offices, and yesterday we converged on Cahuilla Creek MX with support from all of the manufacturers to give all the bikes one last head-to-head comparison. Afterward, we gathered at Blackmore Ranch to shoot the shit about the 2023 Gas Gas MC 450, Honda CRF450R, Husqvarna FC 450, Kawasaki KX450, KTM 350 SX-F, KTM 450 SX-F, and Yamaha YZ450F. Enjoy!
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That was the best shoot out review in the history of reviews. The great ensemble of guys, the setting, the detailed descriptions and the their opinions/emotions about how they're imagining and articulating to the viewer what each bike would provide to the buyer in different terrains. 👏 Bravo!
Appreciate the dialogue. The details highlight the characteristics of each bike and the preferences of each rider. It shows the attributes and challenges of each model, and what some guys like, and what others do not. Well done guys.
Very cool test......!......I've not seen anyone do it this way before .....lovin the content
Great job guys!
I like how they have different backgrounds as far as skill and the varied opinions are appreciated. Not everyone has the same goals when it comes to why they purchase a specific bike, some are hard core racers, some are the complete opposite and everything in between. Don’t need group think, keep up the good work! 👍
Where's Buttery?
Hung over.
LOL H A H A
Worried he would be bias about the Honda lol
He knew he’d become Team Green!
He's out there being buttery
That shop is bad ass! That is going to be my dream build one day! 🍻
Yamaha and the yz 450 with Eli have been killing it this year, and the new bike looks good, can't wait to get one
Can't find one at 2 local dealers here in Western Ohio! There like gimme $300 an we call ya when we get one!? Are they in good supply near you? No YFZ450Rs or Raptor 700Rs avail either!
Seems like it's about the same here too
@@Davido50 I have one scheduled to be here in April in NH . But they still aren’t 100% positive
Great vid boys! Def think the kx450 might be the next bike
"Scrub Daddy, what did you think of the bike?" ... "IT WAS GOOD!" lololol
A shootout should be on different tracks, racing each bike a couple times and making sure the bikes have been tested in different conditions.
Testing on one track in one day sounds like you guys are worried about being the first media to come out with that shootout…
I think a good question for the guys would be which bike would u bring to glammis? And also lap times on the bikes to see what they were faster on compared to what they liked would be interesting also
I still ride my 2006 honda crf450r. Some comments helped. And ive never rode a 350 butt all my trail riding buddies love their 350's.
I love my 06 honda. But what u guys say about the new honda is my same love and dislikes for my old bike. Learned a lot today from u guys. Thanks.
Go honda!
can we get more bike reviews and shootouts?
Makes me think a leftover '22 Yz450f is not a bad option..
Grabbed one a few weeks ago for a deal I could not pass up monster edition at that
Your 450 shootout convinced me to buy a 350. How long or if ever, will it take for the Japanese brands to make a 350?
You can get a YZ250F and add a 270 kit and take it to Twisted and it has the bottom end of a 350.
I believe Yamaha would be the first to do it out of Japanese brands. They seem to listen to the people really well. I think marketing wise, if some how Suzuki did it- people would be really excited and it would bring some attention back to them. Hopefully Roczen signs this year with Hep and the brand builds back up like its prime years early/ late 00's.
350 for me too. Thanks guys.
AS LONG AS SUZUKI ave kickstart
I want a YZ 350F :)
They need a little more 380cc
Very interested in the 350, my only worry is that I’m about 235 pounds and the 350 won’t have enough power for me. I currently own a 2016 crf450r, love the bike but it feels like a tank at times…
P1= Pat Foster a ripper !! 🤘
Man i want Buttery back!
I've watched a number of vids now with riders logging lap times on the 350 against 450s. The riders are always faster on the 350. Usually quite considerably faster. To think you need a 450 is just kidding yourself.
After owning a KTM. 350sxf and a 450sxf I believe the perfect bike would be around 400cc. I loved the 350 feel and cornering but it was lacking torque whereas a 450 has gobs of torque. Ktm could split the difference and discontinue both 350 and 450 and have a 450 killer, best of both worlds
Do they make a big bore kit for the 350? Maybe like a 380 kit? Might help with the bottom end people says it lacks?
Steve, if you haven't ridden the new 2023 350, you definitely should. Its a new motor with a completely new feel. It has more torque in the places you mention. Its not so much of a revver anymore.
I think a problem with the 350, at least the Husqvarna, is if you aren’t able to carry corner speed it’s harder to recover on than a 450. I’m trying to convince myself to like the 350, but I’m having a difficult time. Also, with a $200.00 difference in price, it’s hard to justify a 350. Thank you for a great video.
The problem is buying a new one is a rip off. You can get a 350 for $7K used.
I think the issue is what they stated... EGO.
Team Green Always!
No lap times?
Scrub Daddy!...💥🤘
Took for ever been waiting
450 is a longer lasting motor with less rebuild intervals compared to a 350.
I ride 450's on the pipe. Hard habit to break due to my 2-stroke background, linebacker build, and strength that allow me to get away with this. My style best suit's the long rev curve of YZF or Ktm. I'm on a '18 Kawi 450. Killer Low & Mid, but then NOTHING! I put a FMF 4.1 with Titanium Mega bomb on it. It completely woke up the top end of this motor. If you love the '16-'23 Kawi but hate the flat top end...this upgrade is a game changer! Best Money Spent!
The Kawasaki again?
Of course it's Kawasaki , half the guys in the review own the bike. It's their # 1 ,
@@herbcanter2114 Team Green ALWAYS!
This is not shootout.. we have been bored.. every year every same guy choose the same bike.. we know already the results of 2024 shootout.. all this, is about personal choices or what ?
Hell ya scrub daddy!
What about buttery?
Wow , Swap Moto is deleting all posts that are critical of their review . There were a lot of posts yesterday that they got rid of . Swap Moto IS NOT TO BE TRUSTED.
Did they talk about the suzuki?
Rmz was no show
Ya it's the same as last year and they elected to not finish last in the shootout by not participating. And I like Suzuki btw I have one.
@@jpesicka999 if you took out bikes that were the same as last year, most shoot outs would only have half the bikes. Most companies are on a 3 to 4 year product cycle. Just give us the content.