I think one might struggle putting in the third reef when you really need it. It does make sense though to not have it set up for everyday use. I think it is safer not to pull the excess second reef line through though as if one forgets one can foul the sail as you raise it again.
Very useful video as I am thinking of bringing lines back to the cockpit on my CO32 for my own safety. My concern was how easily the reefing lines pull in but watching this it all seemed to run very smoothly. Thanks so much for sharing.
Thanks for this Norman much appreciated. Not mentioned in the video but maybe important, We removed the shuttle blocks From inside the boom in order to make sure that there was a little friction as possible. This means a bit more rope but not much that can go wrong.
Have a third reef in my mainsail aboard the Sea Sprite 30 but the boom won’t accommodate a third reefing line. So, for the third reef we have to drop the mainsail down and then use the first reef line but rerun it through the new clew and tie to the boom in the appropriate location. Bit of a PITA.
Thank you very much, we certainly had too many reefs in when we were preparing this video. Tried to do it in the right weather conditions but the noise was just a bit too much for the video. I’m glad you enjoyed it
Yes, completely agree and we have now re-rigged this. We can rig the third reef alongside. We have a very long line for this but it does get away from the phaff that you speak about.
Hi again. How’s the single line reefing going on the selden boom with the internal stuff removed? Would you still recommend it? Still easy and low friction?
I would say so, we are a little more measured when putting in reefs and alway try to do it such that we we can see the block that will be the new tack - when out of sight they have been known to twist which increases friction but otherwise all good.
Hi, I have the same system on my Contessa Azolum, my 3rd reef line in permanently Attatched, I'm wondering if it's worth changing it to the same as Coric?
For what it’s worth Chris, I’m thinking about trying to arrange the second reef in the same way. I’m going to try it out for a few more weeks and months and then make a decision.
@@riggsfinn With a single line, the tack and clew are controlled together, so if you adjust one, then you adjust the other, even halyard tension affects the outhaul. With separate lines, the luff and foot tension are separately controlled allowing a fuller sail on a reach and flattening on a beat.
I think this is right, and it a slightly finer point. Once the tack is set, the clew and the main halyard tension can be adjusted. It would be possible to fix the tack to the rams horn. The main advantage of the way this is set up is there everything coming down into the cockpit with a small number of lines. Horses for courses.
I think that the best option depends on the type of sailing. I much prefer separate reefing lines if the boat is optimised for racing with a full crew. For cruising or racing short-handed the single line system is the winner for me.
I think one might struggle putting in the third reef when you really need it. It does make sense though to not have it set up for everyday use.
I think it is safer not to pull the excess second reef line through though as if one forgets one can foul the sail as you raise it again.
Agreed but the counter risk is a loop of line that gets caught up. No easy answer I think
Very useful video as I am thinking of bringing lines back to the cockpit on my CO32 for my own safety. My concern was how easily the reefing lines pull in but watching this it all seemed to run very smoothly. Thanks so much for sharing.
Thanks for this Norman much appreciated. Not mentioned in the video but maybe important, We removed the shuttle blocks From inside the boom in order to make sure that there was a little friction as possible. This means a bit more rope but not much that can go wrong.
You used the selden boom? Or if you removed the shuttle blocks then you can use any boom you want to? Any chance of tangle?
We have a Selden mast and boom. The shuttle blocks are removed to make everything simpler.
Have a third reef in my mainsail aboard the Sea Sprite 30 but the boom won’t accommodate a third reefing line. So, for the third reef we have to drop the mainsail down and then use the first reef line but rerun it through the new clew and tie to the boom in the appropriate location. Bit of a PITA.
Agreed - and probably when you least want ot
Great video. Makes me want to put a reef in for no reason.
Thank you very much, we certainly had too many reefs in when we were preparing this video. Tried to do it in the right weather conditions but the noise was just a bit too much for the video. I’m glad you enjoyed it
That looked very easy compared to conventional slab reefing, or changing sail. A very good system.
Thanks Stuart, much appreciated. The ability to reef without going to the mast makes it much safer in my humble point of view.
Lots of phaff for the third reef, which if needed will be in inclement conditions, and therefore the most important.
Agreed, we have rerouted such that the third reef can now be rigged alongside
Yes, completely agree and we have now re-rigged this.
We can rig the third reef alongside. We have a very long line for this but it does get away from the phaff that you speak about.
Dont forget the topping lift.
We are fortunate to have a gas strut but if you don’t then I completely agree
Great video, thank you John…
Thank you, I might need to do an update as we rejigged the third Reef to make it easier to put in
I prefer reefing at the mast with slab.
I also like that system and can see pros and cons for both. Will talk a little about that in next episode.
For safety, you should close the companionway hatch cover when working on the coach roof.
Yes - good point and normally when reefed the hatch would be shut as it can be a bit wet too. Thank you
Hi again. How’s the single line reefing going on the selden boom with the internal stuff removed? Would you still recommend it? Still easy and low friction?
I would say so, we are a little more measured when putting in reefs and alway try to do it such that we we can see the block that will be the new tack - when out of sight they have been known to twist which increases friction but otherwise all good.
Hi, I have the same system on my Contessa Azolum, my 3rd reef line in permanently Attatched, I'm wondering if it's worth changing it to the same as Coric?
For what it’s worth Chris, I’m thinking about trying to arrange the second reef in the same way. I’m going to try it out for a few more weeks and months and then make a decision.
To reef or not to reef now that is the Question 😮
If your not sure it’s time to reef! :-)
Lovely. I always struggle with friction on our single line reefing. We're a 27ft hunter, what diameter reefing lines do you use?
I am 90% sure they are 8mm. Maybe a bit bigger than they need to be but thought they would be nicer to handle
@@CoricContessa32 thanks for that. We have 8mm lines and a smaller sail, so going smaller for us might help.
I would just have a 2nd and 3rd reef. But I like boring sailing.
Horses for Course :-)
I prefer separate lines, it gives you more control and a lot less friction.
How so?
@@riggsfinn With a single line, the tack and clew are controlled together, so if you adjust one, then you adjust the other, even halyard tension affects the outhaul. With separate lines, the luff and foot tension are separately controlled allowing a fuller sail on a reach and flattening on a beat.
I think this is right, and it a slightly finer point. Once the tack is set, the clew and the main halyard tension can be adjusted. It would be possible to fix the tack to the rams horn. The main advantage of the way this is set up is there everything coming down into the cockpit with a small number of lines. Horses for courses.
I think that the best option depends on the type of sailing. I much prefer separate reefing lines if the boat is optimised for racing with a full crew. For cruising or racing short-handed the single line system is the winner for me.
sorry, but the presentation is confusing