Reminds me of Mooji's saying: "Through the trust in the master's words, the cataract of mistaken identity is peeled away, revealing the indivisible Self. And so falls away the weight of ego-centered conditioning, arrogance, pride, fear and all suffering. One comes to see - not the Self - but purely from the Self, the transience of the phenomenal world." But there is a way how the Seer can be seen! The seer as we know is the Consciousness looking through our eyes so normally our eyes cannot see our eyes ;-) being the eyes, like Mooji says "a knife cannot cut itself." We love to look into Mooji's eyes because Mooji knows he is Consciousness looking at Consciousness (you) no separation. "I know every human being. Beingness in all its expressions, I know intimately. I see my own Being reflected in their eyes. This power you also have. Self is not meeting another, it is meeting itself appearing as 'other'." So "Can the Seer be seen?" Yes! there is a way how you as Consciousness, the Seer can see Itself like Mooji sees his "own Being reflected" in your eyes! Although as St. Francis of Assisi says: "What you are looking for is what is looking." With the non-reversed True Mirror you CAN SEE "what is looking" by stepping outside yourself so to speak, looking into your own eyes like you look into someone else's eyes, (or Mooji's eyes) from left eye to right eye, from right eye to left eye! Because almost everyone is hypnotized (identified) by their non-existing illusory backwards mirror image as a separate 'person', a separate self! Because you look from right eye to right eye and vice versa so our right/left brain hemispheres cannot connect and only you see your 'human form/reflection' that way! and you see this illusory backwards reflection everywhere in every reflective surface (also in backwards taken 'Selfies'!) getting hypnotized again and again in the belief of a separate 'person' (in the mirror/on your phone screen). Not so with the True Mirror! You (Consciousness) can disidentify from this illusion of separation, of this belief that you are only a 'human form'. We (I and John Walter from New York who created the True Mirror) have sent a True Mirror to Mooji and the Sangha last October but he has not have time to open the package yet due to the many presents he gets. Don't get me wrong, we don't want to give you a new image - non-reversed or not - but through Mooji's pointing you must know this by now but maybe only intellectually otherwise you would not be asking Mooji all these same questions over and over again still looking for your true Self after all these years Mooji is pointing to That what cannot be seen only 'tasted', experienced by That Itself! I hope Mooji will 'unpack' the True Mirror we've sent him soon so every Being will become conscious of Itself as the Unmanifest again!
@gefftom - I believe he is talking about becoming aware of your mind games. In other words, that the perceiver is perceived. Observe your thoughts (noise) without judging or attaching to them. Just observe, become a "seer".
seeing the seer wants to be a variant of the self investigation 'who am i' [the one that perceives different things]; however, this approach may be confusing as it makes the seer an object of the sequential investigation therefore misleading it. A more direct and appropriate question to make this variation work would rather be 'who is the seer?', i.e. turning the attention on the subject/converting the object into the subject of the investigation
Axel Lee he's talking about awareness not mind even though it perceives too but its not pure cause its perceiving something or things and that's also seen
Reminds me of Mooji's saying: "Through the trust in the master's words, the cataract of mistaken identity is peeled away, revealing the indivisible Self. And so falls away the weight of ego-centered conditioning, arrogance, pride, fear and all suffering. One comes to see - not the Self - but purely from the Self, the transience of the phenomenal world."
But there is a way how the Seer can be seen! The seer as we know is the Consciousness looking through our eyes so normally our eyes cannot see our eyes ;-) being the eyes, like Mooji says "a knife cannot cut itself." We love to look into Mooji's eyes because Mooji knows he is Consciousness looking at Consciousness (you) no separation. "I know every human being. Beingness in all its expressions, I know intimately. I see my own Being reflected in their eyes. This power you also have. Self is not meeting another, it is meeting itself appearing as 'other'."
So "Can the Seer be seen?" Yes! there is a way how you as Consciousness, the Seer can see Itself like Mooji sees his "own Being reflected" in your eyes! Although as St. Francis of Assisi says: "What you are looking for is what is looking."
With the non-reversed True Mirror you CAN SEE "what is looking" by stepping outside yourself so to speak, looking into your own eyes like you look into someone else's eyes, (or Mooji's eyes) from left eye to right eye, from right eye to left eye!
Because almost everyone is hypnotized (identified) by their non-existing illusory backwards mirror image as a separate 'person', a separate self! Because you look from right eye to right eye and vice versa so our right/left brain hemispheres cannot connect and only you see your 'human form/reflection' that way! and you see this illusory backwards reflection everywhere in every reflective surface (also in backwards taken 'Selfies'!) getting hypnotized again and again in the belief of a separate 'person' (in the mirror/on your phone screen).
Not so with the True Mirror! You (Consciousness) can disidentify from this illusion of separation, of this belief that you are only a 'human form'.
We (I and John Walter from New York who created the True Mirror) have sent a True Mirror to Mooji and the Sangha last October but he has not have time to open the package yet due to the many presents he gets.
Don't get me wrong, we don't want to give you a new image - non-reversed or not - but through Mooji's pointing you must know this by now but maybe only intellectually otherwise you would not be asking Mooji all these same questions over and over again still looking for your true Self after all these years Mooji is pointing to That what cannot be seen only 'tasted', experienced by That Itself!
I hope Mooji will 'unpack' the True Mirror we've sent him soon so
every Being will become conscious of Itself as the Unmanifest again!
@gefftom - I believe he is talking about becoming aware of your mind games. In other words, that the perceiver is perceived. Observe your thoughts (noise) without judging or attaching to them. Just observe, become a "seer".
seeing the seer wants to be a variant of the self investigation 'who am i' [the one that perceives different things]; however, this approach may be confusing as it makes the seer an object of the sequential investigation therefore misleading it. A more direct and appropriate question to make this variation work would rather be 'who is the seer?', i.e. turning the attention on the subject/converting the object into the subject of the investigation
jigme800 thanks i completly missed your comments before, i understand now i will attempt to do it ASA
@just0408 you still look for the seer. When that concept dissolves you have
find out if the seer can be seen first..
when he says seer is he talking about the mind seer som1 please help please.
Axel Lee no not the mind . beyond mind or behind mind
Axel Lee he's talking about awareness not mind even though it perceives too but its not pure cause its perceiving something or things and that's also seen
I, I! Rastafari!
the seer cant be seen ..cause seeing implies there is an object and you are not an object you see all objects