Trouble in Belfast: Exploring Irish Identity

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  • Опубліковано 3 лис 2024

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  • @paulhughesmma2111
    @paulhughesmma2111 Місяць тому +11

    Thanks for having me!

    • @frontsightmedia
      @frontsightmedia  Місяць тому +1

      Thank you so much for taking the time to interview with us!

    • @BelfastManUtdTherapy
      @BelfastManUtdTherapy Місяць тому +1

      pauls a legend

    • @steveperry8031
      @steveperry8031 Місяць тому

      Paul , your interview was great watch but I think its icorrrect to say that there are Protestant and Catholic schools in Northern Ireland and education was segregated , Well thats incorrect . There is a government school system that is open to anyone to attend , Catholics , Protestants and any other faiths can attend .I know this as I attended a state school were Protestanst and Roman Catholics attended. The Catholic Church provides a separate schooling system for Catholic children which the majority of Catholic children attend . The are also some independent Protestant schools .

  • @Driver2616
    @Driver2616 Місяць тому +10

    Hi Frontsight, Northern Ireland is only a part of Ulster, about two thirds of Ulster in fact. The other one third of Ulster is in the Republic of Ireland.

  • @qprfcfromthewhitecity
    @qprfcfromthewhitecity Місяць тому +12

    That MMA fighter seems a lovely guy. Both identities in Northern Ireland indeed have lots in common and should learn to respect each others. Big love to all the Irish and British people in Northern Ireland!
    Edit: Couple of wee corrections: Not all descendents of the plantation are in the Orange Order or agree with the Orange Order and not all protestants vote DUP. Lots vote for the cross community alliance party of the more liberal UUP party.

    • @darnellbiggumsthe9th658
      @darnellbiggumsthe9th658 Місяць тому

      hard to respect unionism when at its very core is british ethno-supremacy with the state of “northern ireland” being founded and built upon this supremacy that unfortunately many of a british persuasion continue to align themselves with.

    • @steveperry8031
      @steveperry8031 Місяць тому +2

      Identifying people as descendants of planters is a bit offensive especially as there people of been in Ulster for over 400 years .

    • @mikki3562
      @mikki3562 Місяць тому

      There is also the stream of Protestant republicans and Irish nationalists. Many of these people were targeted by the Orange death-squads, who are the guarntors of British empire sectarianism.

  • @BelfastManUtdTherapy
    @BelfastManUtdTherapy Місяць тому +3

    Hey man your very welcome here. you should go on a tour, im on the falls and lived here all my life. Theres amazing stories and threads that play out in Belfast. Go on the streets and explore. Peace!!

  • @steveperry8031
    @steveperry8031 Місяць тому +2

    Fact check ...Paul Hughes said that there were Protestant and Catholic schools in Northern Ireland and education was segregated , Well thats incorrect . There is a government school system that is open to anyone to attend , Catholics , Protestants and any other faith can attend . The Catholic Church provides a separate schooling system for Catholic children which the majority of Catholic children attend . The are also some independent Protestant schools .

  • @663antrim
    @663antrim Місяць тому +4

    Taxi men talk some shite

  • @gerarddeegan1164
    @gerarddeegan1164 Місяць тому +7

    The scars of british rule in ireland🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪 no part of ireland should be under british rule😮

    • @lextalonis839
      @lextalonis839 Місяць тому

      Wise Up. We’re under Global Corporate Technocracy. Europe or England doesn’t really matter. We’re all being exploited and subjugated.

    • @steveperry8031
      @steveperry8031 Місяць тому

      Northern Ireland is British because the majority want it , unfortuantely thats democracy.

  • @liamcronin1137
    @liamcronin1137 Місяць тому +14

    First off many Irish people don't view it as a separate country, so therefore the Americans would be right in that case

    • @steveperry8031
      @steveperry8031 Місяць тому

      But Americans are ignorant of their own history. They seem ignorant of the fact that the land was populated with tribes of people with names like Apache , Cherokee , Blackfoot Cree and these people had their lands taken from them forcfully and they were pushed onto reservations . But never let the facts get in the ways of a good yarn.

    • @steveperry8031
      @steveperry8031 Місяць тому

      Well there are many ppl who view Hitler as a good guy , so are they correct too ?

  • @codymuders4996
    @codymuders4996 Місяць тому +2

    Very good informative video

  • @chriswintle664
    @chriswintle664 Місяць тому +2

    Union flag is George. Andrew and Patrick

    • @Kieron-fx5pm
      @Kieron-fx5pm Місяць тому +1

      I’ve always felt sorry that the Welsh weren’t invited to contribute. What flag wouldn’t look better with a dragon on it!

    • @barryb90
      @barryb90 Місяць тому

      That St Patrick's cross is an Anglo creation, it isn't Irish. The flag of Ireland was an Irish Harp.

    • @Udhdhfufuf
      @Udhdhfufuf Місяць тому

      @@barryb90saint pate rocks cross existed before and was just adopted by the brits later

  • @Joseph13163
    @Joseph13163 Місяць тому +1

    that thing about integrated education its not easily solved because they live in different areas,if you ended faith schools tomorrrow and made every school mixed they still only be mixed on paper.The different sports are not easy to change either GAA is very linked to irish nationalism and identity its hard to get unionists involved.

  • @CallumMcDonald77
    @CallumMcDonald77 Місяць тому

    British identity 🇬🇧✋

  • @onaematopia
    @onaematopia Місяць тому +6

    Tiocfaidh ár lá 🇮🇪

  • @DoozAU
    @DoozAU Місяць тому

    Here from Paul hughes

  • @BounceBackBelfast
    @BounceBackBelfast Місяць тому +2

    What is going on with Paul's yank accent lol

  • @easyrigs
    @easyrigs Місяць тому

    I respect you coming here to find your roots. But you struck me as being deliberately trolling. Especially with Alan Brecknell. Very poor follow-up question. And when you were chatting to Paul, you were more interested in your next pint and staring at your arms

  • @anthonym3351
    @anthonym3351 Місяць тому

    The problem is the name northern Ireland, it has ireland in the name so foreigners like me just call everyone Irish. If it had a different name maybe things would be different

    • @steveperry8031
      @steveperry8031 Місяць тому

      Or maybe the foreigners should educate themselves.

    • @anthonym3351
      @anthonym3351 Місяць тому +2

      @@steveperry8031 I'm aware of the history of genocide etc

  • @RiskyRoss
    @RiskyRoss Місяць тому

    This content is okay but I'd like to see some real action from conflict reporting

  • @barbechivo
    @barbechivo Місяць тому

    Why wouldn't Hughes carry/wave an Irish flag? That's his culture and identity. Very naive question. This wasn't a "deep dive", more like a superficial skimming of the surface.

  • @chriswintle664
    @chriswintle664 Місяць тому +3

    It's Northern Ireland not North of Ireland

    • @nreddington1857
      @nreddington1857 Місяць тому +1

      Did you not read maps in school it's the North East of ireland and donegal is more North than the six counties

    • @darnellbiggumsthe9th658
      @darnellbiggumsthe9th658 Місяць тому +1

      @@chriswintle664 it’s the occupied 6 counties

  • @White.Man1
    @White.Man1 Місяць тому +6

    Ireland for the natives.

    • @steveperry8031
      @steveperry8031 Місяць тому

      Well thats true in the 26 county Republic.

    • @nreddington1857
      @nreddington1857 Місяць тому

      ​@steveperry8031 I think your wrong there pal

  • @RevoeLad
    @RevoeLad Місяць тому +5

    Ulster would be crazy to join the Republic of Ireland it’s been it’s always been a separate kingdom.

    • @johnjoemcgonagle3377
      @johnjoemcgonagle3377 Місяць тому +4

      Basic lies

    • @Joseph13163
      @Joseph13163 Місяць тому

      I am here in county sligo ,that was a separate kingdom once aswell so,ruled by the O'connor Dynasty and before that it was part of the the kingdom of connacht .By that logic there should be separate kingdoms all over the island ,thomond ,even dublin was its own kingdom,Ossory ,oriel,desmond,breffni,Tyrone(in NI)..plus a third of ulster is already in the republic donegal,cavan and monaghan.Northern Ireland is not ulster its in ulster but its not ulster.Protestants in the north have more ancestry from the kingdom of Northumbria than the old irish kingdoms anyway.

    • @nreddington1857
      @nreddington1857 Місяць тому +2

      40% of ulster is part of the Republic of Ireland did you not know

  • @Judgementday-qp1ol
    @Judgementday-qp1ol Місяць тому +8

    I suppose it really all boils down to immigrants coming into any Country should respect the Natives of that Country, and blend in with the Culture of that Country.
    This unfortunately wasn't the case when the British came to Ireland.
    They literally took over.
    This was always going to be a fight.

    • @williamthomas6991
      @williamthomas6991 Місяць тому

      Were the British even a thing then?

    • @williamthomas6991
      @williamthomas6991 Місяць тому

      The people’s in these islands are all intermixed and we should celebrate our differences. My parents are Welsh and not British but their ancestors came to Waled from Wexford in the 1840s

    • @Judgementday-qp1ol
      @Judgementday-qp1ol Місяць тому +1

      @williamthomas6991 Do you know any History of Ireland at all.
      Genocide, Ethnic Cleansing, Slavery, Farm theft, Public execution, , Jail etc.etc.
      I understand this is not taught in the British School Curriculum.
      Ordinary People don't fight for no good reason.

    • @williamthomas6991
      @williamthomas6991 Місяць тому

      @@Judgementday-qp1ol There is no such thing as a British curriculum. There is an English one, a Scottish one, a Welsh one and also one for the North of Ireland. From my experience not many people in Ireland know much about Wales and its language. Ignorance has many faces

    • @Judgementday-qp1ol
      @Judgementday-qp1ol Місяць тому

      @williamthomas6991 I have studied the British Curriculum, King's and Queen's nonsense, and nothing about the horrors of Colonialism in Ireland.
      Do you know the Irish language for Wales. "An Bhreatain bheag", meaning Little Britain.
      A little derogatory I know, as I know there are also Welsh Nationalists looking to break away with England.

  • @MICHAELCAMPBELL69
    @MICHAELCAMPBELL69 Місяць тому

    Doctors etc
    Cut the bull shit

  • @gerarddeegan1164
    @gerarddeegan1164 Місяць тому +1

    Six counties in ulster are under british rule😮😮😮

  • @Madnotmad69
    @Madnotmad69 Місяць тому

    It’s not are republican of Ireland 🇮🇪 flag it belongs to all of Ireland north south east and west

  • @mikki3562
    @mikki3562 Місяць тому +2

    I don't mean to be too critical but at the beginning of the video there are two mistakes made: firstly the six-counties in the north is not another country. It is six of the nine county province of Ulster. The six-counties are still under British rule, still occupied by what was called the British empire. Secondly: the flag referred to is not the Republic of Ireland flag, it is the flag of Ireland, meaning all of Ireland, one country with six of its counties occupied by the extant British empire. And to clarify the meaning of the Republic of Ireland; the title of the part of Ireland referred to as that is, Ireland. Republic of Ireland is a legal description but not the title. Ownership is claimed firstly in language, followed by occupation. The British and the settler entity maintained by Britain in the north will use language in their justification for occupation. This is why it is important to correct the mistakes made in the introduction to the video, mistakes that fall into a British narrative of occupation.

    • @issacshlomo171
      @issacshlomo171 Місяць тому

      Many Palestinian villagers claim ancestral ties to Arab tribes from the Arabian Peninsula that settled in Palestine during or after the Arab conquest, while others trace their roots to Turkish, North African, Kurdish, Egyptian, and Turkman origins. In the 7th century, Palestine was conquered by the Rashidun Caliphate, ending Byzantine rule in the region; Rashidun rule was succeeded by the Umayyad Caliphate, the Abbasid Caliphate, and the Fatamid Califate who started platiinng seltlers from Arabia to Levant. University Catholic College Dublin School of History. Why Irish in Belfast support Palestinians from the beginning of the video when according UCD Palestinian Arabs are descendants of planted settlers?

    • @chrism2893
      @chrism2893 Місяць тому +2

      NORTHERN IRELAND IS A COUNTRY. And the rubbish you talk about the language, in Ireland I've never heard anyone speaking Irish everyone speaks English. Have alot of Irish/catholic friends and none of them can speak fluent Irish.

    • @Driver2616
      @Driver2616 Місяць тому +2

      @@chrism2893: Northern Ireland has never been a “country”, as you suggest here. It has been and still remains, a part of Ireland (about two thirds of the ancient Irish province of Ulster) that is still unlawfully occupied by the invading England/Britain. It is officially “Occupied Ireland”. It is important to note that this control of this small part of Ireland by a foreign power, is waning. Increasingly, there is more and more frustration with England’s control of this part of Ulster. Soon, it will come to pass that this foreign control of this small portion of Ireland will finish and at that point, all of Ireland will be free…. It’s coming…

    • @issacshlomo171
      @issacshlomo171 Місяць тому

      @@Driver2616 Palestine was never a country and Palestinian Arabs are descendants of Settlers planted in Plantation by Arabic Empire who' occupied and colonized Jewish lands in 7th Century according to The University Catholic College Dublin but Northern Irish Catholics are supporting Palestine and Palestinian Arabs anyway.? If according to you Palestinian Muslim Arebs will be free than equivalent of your logical argument is that Ulster Protestants will be free from Catholic occupation and they will stay in the Union with the rest of the UK according to their wishes? If Palestinian Arabs can according to you why Ulster Protestants cannot?

    • @steveperry8031
      @steveperry8031 Місяць тому

      So its quite obvious to when reading this that this is quite an extreme irish republican narrative , a narrative that was commonly used by ira / sinn fein to justify the murder of anyone who disagreed with this narrative.

  • @BelfastManUtdTherapy
    @BelfastManUtdTherapy Місяць тому +2

    Like every god / deity belief, all the troubles here go back to whichever version of the bronze-age bible god you were brought up with. Belfast is embracing science more and more , the young people thankfully from both sides are learning we are all just the same and none of us want to fight, we just want to live and love and do our best :-)

    • @adamtoner3870
      @adamtoner3870 Місяць тому

      What is father sciencemas going to bring you this year?

    • @davidh6543
      @davidh6543 Місяць тому

      it goes back to the Protestant Reformation, and British empire building. 1530s and on. It's about power, territory, wealth, and conquest, with religion as justification. Unresolved, unresolvable until one tribe or the other dies out.

    • @BelfastManUtdTherapy
      @BelfastManUtdTherapy Місяць тому

      @@adamtoner3870 cancer cures, even better MRI scanners that highlight invisible defects we can't see with our eyes, etc etc a loving perfect creator can't exist, because it invented the need to eat regularly and without food you suffer hunger and agony, invented the need to breathe oxygen, the need to have access to clean water and then made us a planet thats so inhospitable to our body that we have to build protection against it. (Houses) A loving creator doesnt invent hunger and the suffering agony felt if you can't get food. We die if it's too cold or warm, we die in earthquakes and hurricanes and floods, that's why we need homes Before science, the world thought earthquakes etc were the god being angry, and so we needed to worship better. Anyway Xmas science brings love and peace. 🍺🍺🍺

    • @darnellbiggumsthe9th658
      @darnellbiggumsthe9th658 Місяць тому +5

      the conflict has sweet fk all to do with religion mate, it’s purely down to ethnic and cultural supremacy of british unionists against native irish nationalists and until the occupying british presence in our 6 counties is removed animosity will always be there and i say this as someone born after the Good Friday Agreement.

    • @BelfastManUtdTherapy
      @BelfastManUtdTherapy Місяць тому +1

      @@darnellbiggumsthe9th658 I agree with what you say to a point but Catholic Irish people were invaded and those planted here by the British banned the Irish language and more than anything banned the practice of the native Roman Catholics from celebrating their religious mass. They were told the pope is the anti christ. It was rooted first in interpretation of the bronze age book called the bible. When the protestants were planted here by the English, and had let the Catholics worship their interpretation of the same old book, then yes, you can say it's f all to do with religion. But mate I'm telling you it all starts with religion.

  • @DanielJewel-e2t
    @DanielJewel-e2t Місяць тому +2

    It's a British province facts majority of the residents if the north proudly proclaim their are British fact's the northern Irish has turned their backs on the republic of Ireland aka the free state and never admit they are Irish oh no they proclaim they are northern Irish which is double talk that truly means they are British fact's

    • @steveperry8031
      @steveperry8031 Місяць тому

      And that comment makes you sound like a Nazi , denying Unionists their democratic rights and civil and religious liberties . This way of thinking prevailed in 1930s Germany .

    • @nreddington1857
      @nreddington1857 Місяць тому

      There two tribes in the 60% of the province of ulster that is British administrated irish unionist & irish nationalist

    • @enda1892
      @enda1892 Місяць тому +1

      Catholic nationalist native Irish are now the majority in North of ireland...they will now decide what happens to the place! - better be nice to them now u english wannabe 😮

    • @ianest
      @ianest Місяць тому +1

      ​@@enda1892 according to our latest census there's more British than Irish here

    • @enda1892
      @enda1892 Місяць тому

      @@ianest who's running the place? Days of treating irish natives like shit are over. Planters will hate that...