Tigris calling him Coriolanus instead of Coryo, and telling him he looked just like his father got me chills. That’s the exact moment she knew he was not the same…
+ whiteness. is a very prominent theme in the franchise, despite largely moving on from modern and original racial systems, it is a colonial society evolved upon ours, and considering he tends to think of the districters, specially those from the lower ones who were explicitly our modern racialized communities, it makes sense.
I mean they made the hunger games 4 into 2 parts. I wouldn’t be mad if they did it with the prequel since it’s a one and done. Plus I felt it was missing things as someone who didn’t read the books.
As someone who did read the book, they had to condense a *ton* of stuff. I honestly don’t know how they could’ve effectively cut it into two parts, because it’s so starkly structured into three. Sure, the first movie probably could’ve ended at Lucy Gray winning the Games, but then the second would be too short, and, honestly, I’m not sure people would come back for it; despite being a direct continuation, part 3 feels like a completely different story, and while the events of it are really good and really important to Snow’s character, they’re more introspective (in the book, at least, though I do think they did a pretty good job showing Snow’s thought process in the movie). There’s a lot less action than, you know, the battle to the death. The original trilogy was able to split the final movie into two parts because the story had escalated from the Games to literal revolution and warfare (and, frankly, those two are still widely regarded as the weakest in the series, even after we’d had two other movies’ worth of time to develop and care about the characters). No matter how they split it, at least one of the movies would have felt sparse and unnecessary
I completely agree with what you said about Coriolanus wanting to own Lucy Gray. In the book he's constantly thinking about her in such disgusting, possessive terms, that she belongs to him, she's his, he literally gets angry about the fact that she had a life before she met him, like calm down
Exactly! Like Snow was 3 steps away from R-word-ing lucy, no fr he would surely force himself on lucy if she stayed. In the movie he may look nice but if someone knows his inner thoughts like the books, he is like Weekend's character from the new Idol series. Like there's a line in the book where he says "Tigris had a vulnerability that invited abuse which was sweet and snow couldnt get that thought of his mind"..... WTF DOES THAT EVEN MEAN
@GigiM_winx All he meant by that was she was vulnerable because she was sweet. And if you read the whole thought he has he is clearly worried about her not that he thought it would be cool if she was raped
The way you described Snow being in love with Lucy Gray is exactly how I see it. Boy was in love in the way that he wanted to keep her in a cage by his side forever so he always knows where she is and she can never leave. Like he literally wishes she was back in the cage in the capitol when he's with her in 12, there is something SEVERELY wrong with this man.
There are actually mayors in the original books, I guess it just wasnt mentioned in the movies. In the books katniss is given the mockingjay pin by the mayor's daughter
oh i forgot about that but now I really like how for katniss the mayors daughter was kind to and gave a gift while for lucy grey the mayors daughter was cruel and evil to
I love the way Lucy’s disappearance played out. Not only Snows spiral, but the question becomes did Lucy plan to leave for good when she left the cabin? Maybe she did go out to get Katniss, and took an extended amount of time to see how Snow would react, given his quickness to kill loose ends. Was it a final chance to see Snows true colors? Did she stay around until the first gunshots went off, or was she already gone and him saying he killed 3 was enough proof for her? We don’t know. We only know Lucy from Snow’s perspective, really driving forward the mystery of Lucy Gray.
How I interpreted it from a conversation earlier where she said that trust was the most important to her. I think she realized she couldn’t trust him/he didn’t fully trust her and saw how unhinged he was slowly becoming and wanted to get tf out before she turned into another loose end he wanted to deal with.
You know the theory that Lucy Gray survives being shot and escapes to district 13 to become the woman that becomes president After snow (actually Katniss shoots her )
I think it’s interesting how he finds Lucy’s earring in the mud after he shot at her and pockets it… just to continue hunting her. Like he’s sick and twisted for real
Really is crazy how he basically robbed sejanus after killing him (if you read the book you’d know there was cash behind that framed diploma) and then continues to take advantage of his parents smh crazy
@@jtm881well at first he thought he‘d die too (after sejanus was executed). So he send the money to tigris. But he took it after he got to the capitol 😭 and he got anything he wanted from sejanus parents he really felt no guilt
i so appreciate how this tale (movie + book) not only opens up the world and lore of the Hunger Games, but also accomplished NOT making Snow a redeemable or flawed hero - despite how attractive he was lol. Kudos.
Yeah, I really liked it! I was afraid that it would lean into making the audience sympathise for Snow because he had some sort of traumatic back story, but Suzanne delivered with this story.
The most pivotal scene in my opinion is when he kills in the arena, you could see the shift in his eyes when he continued to beat up the boy even though he could have left after the first punch. He was obviously shaken up by his actions but when he told Tigris about the power he felt I just knew this was when something shifted in his psyche. I haven’t read the book where I know he always had a superiority complex and was bad, but in the movies I think this was the first big step towards the reality that we see unfold in the hunger games trilogy.
In the book it becomes clear too that he gives up the choice of his actions by blaming it on his twisted notion of what is human nature, so he's never to blame for anything that he does, after all he "had no choice", it's an amazing book and the movie is also wonderful but it's much clearer in the book how Snow has always felt superior to everyone - instead of sympathizing with other's struggles because he himself has gone through some of it, he truly and fully believes they deserve to go hungry, to pay for the crime of trying to start a revolution, to die in the arena, but not him. Suzanne Collins keeps portraying white supremacists so well it makes me go a little insane lmao she's AMAZING
hey bestie! “driven snow” actually is an old term from the 1500s that means snow that was carried by the wind into drifts. the saying actually does mean to be pure! i think it’s supposed to speak as to how she sees him, in contrast to who he really is. the driven-through snow theory does make sense and also could have been intentional though! another cool word play thing about it is like driven Snow, as in he is driven and ambitious and nothing gets in his way. he’s only pure until that becomes his downfall. snow may land on top but it doesn’t stay for very long…
Just a quick little correction, driven snow is freshly fallen snow blown into drifts by the wind, “pure as the driven snow” does actually mean pure/untouched 😅 The song is more an illustration of Lucy Gray’s belief that she can trust Coriolanus
I think Coral going after Lucy Gray is because Lucy Gray is obviously the favourite and has the attention of the Capitol more than any of the others, similar to how Katniss was the careers’ main target in her first games
when he comes back from district 12 his hair is so much more white (cold), i love that they did that to show his change in character from before he snapped to now
honestly kind of a great way to show his change especially considering they basically removed his mother’s compact’s role which essentially did the same thing in the book going from full compact and powder in act 1 aka his warm curls to just the powder in act 2 his buzz cut which is him being stripped down to his most basic form to even that melting away and becoming paste in act 3 when his hair grows back and is now a cold toned slick backed look like his father his newest form
Not only was the Mockingjay pin originally given to Katniss by her bestie Madge who was the Mayor's daughter, but its original owner was also Madge's aunt who was both Katniss's mother's bestie and Haymitch's ally in the Second Quarter Quell (man held her hand as she bled out to death)
The idea of people in the capitol still facing property is alluded to (from my interpretation) in the Mockingjay book. Specifically when katniss and crew camp out at those different apartments and all they have are a few cans of food. And then with castor talking about it taking his family 5 years to save up to bring pollux home. Just an added element of the capitol just being about appearances of oppulence. But those appearances don't really benefit anybody but the very few people who actually have control and are in power.
in ABOSAS snow talks about how the civil servants are second class citizens. still capitol, but not elite. it makes sense that they'd be barely hanging on as the elite got even richer. a widening wealth gap would also make the games even more of a necessary distraction, and also to show the civil servants what could happen to them if they ever rose up against the oligarchs.
Some notes: -Mayors were there even in the trilogy but they didn’t include that in the movies, just in the books, the mayor’s daughter was even the character who gave Katniss the Mockingjay pin and they were friends (in the movie Prim gave it to her) -The start of the hunger games from Lucy’s POV was honestly great since in the book it was just from Snows’s POV -Lucy didn’t write “The hanging tree” for snow, it was about the execution and also it was in the POV of her ex lover (Billy Taupe) who tells her to meet him at the hanging tree and by the end before he dies he tries to stop Lucy from fleeing away, the whole song was explained in the book. -Pure as driven snow is actually not that meaning, the song meant that she trusted him, you can look what “Driven snow” actually means. -They don’t play the recording when they hang Sejanus in the book, so we never actually know if Sejanus knew that Snow betrayed him, all of this is honestly so sad, Sejanus deserved better. -I loved the mystery aspect of the ending in that we never know what happened to Lucy gray, just like in the ballad, there’s so many possibilities. Tbh the book gives more context on everything as it is always the case but the movie was really good!! Suzanne Collins is honestly a genius with her writing and discussing important topics by inserting them in the story!
bro in the book dr gaul is SO psycho in the books like she loves a good rhyme starting multiple sentences with her saying “hippity hoppity” viola did her justice
The book definitely adds a lot of information/context, but also makes it harder to empathize with Coryo. There are moments when you still do, but hearing his inner dialogue- he feels entitled to Lucy Gray after he believes he “saved her and sacrificed everything for her” (like boy no you did that for yourself and your future) so he started to give me the ick like halfway through instead of at the very very end lol
Exactly he’s so possessive over her and does everything for his own benefit (which honestly would be kinda hard to show in a movie but i think the movie still showed his selfish nature)
This is good to hear and gives me hope because I wanted to read it after seeing this movie, and im sorry to say how disappointing the movie was for me specifically due to the level of sympathy it seemed keen on showering on a character that is the devil incarnate
And even before that, I would say probably from the beginning of the book, the superiority complex he has because he's a Snow and the way he thinks about Sejanus (who considered Coryo his closest friend and even a brother) in his internal monologue really shows that he was selfish and self-centered from the very beginning - that he was always headed towards evil one way or the other and that it wasn't that Dr. Gaul or The Games made him evil, but that they just brought that side of him to the forefront whereas before he was putting on a persona.
what’s crazy is he kinda reminded me of katniss in the books. in the books katniss HATES that she owes her life to people throughout the books and snow feels the same way about lucy gray after the arena. only katniss feels like she can never stop owing them while he believes he doesn’t. it also shows how different their love is like she falls for peeta for who he is while snow falls for lucy gray for how she reflects on him and how he views her not how she actually is. it shows how they are similar but different
She paid homage to the iconic j law’s bow in hunger games where she says “thank you for consideration” and I thought it was a cute lil mic drop cause she wasn’t supposed to bow lol and Jennifer even said to her jokingly that she stole her bow😂
Yes, the districts do have mayors. They cut it from the movie for time, but the mayor of district 12 actually knew the everdeens and was seemingly fond of them. His daughter, Madge was the only person other than Gale whom Katniss considered a “friend.” Madge is originally the one to give Katniss the Mockingjay pin when she visits Katniss after the reaping.
Yeah, I was pleasantly surprised! Not that I thought she would be a bad singer, but I still haven't watched West Side Story so I didn't know how great of singer she'd be- she was great though
@kyraproulx3941 She has range. In West Side Story, she sang in a beautiful soprano. This movie, her voice was deeper and darker. I was surprised, too.
I think my favorite thing about this prequel is the worldbuilding/lore. The origin of The Hanging Tree, the song that became an anthem for the revolution (at least in the movie, not 100% clear about the book), being written by Snow’s ex! Possible Katniss ancestry (Lucy Gray’s cousin, Maude Ivory)!
i thought of the school bell prompting the beginning of the games as a way of saying, “lesson has started” since part of the reason for the games is to serve as a lesson for the districts-in addition to the fact that they’re kids.
I feel like most questions you had , are all answered in the book. For example , not only was the mayor mentioned in the FIRST hunger games book , Katniss' best friend from district 12 was Madge, the Mayors daughter
I appreciate that the show isn't just the Hunger Games again. It's a new creative movie in a world I like. It could have easily been another uninspired cash in.
I liked this movie because it showed what the hunger games were, vs what they are (or again, were since they don’t exist in that canon anymore). The tributes being so poorly kept, Jessup dying from rabies, the girl with tuberculosis, the other girl who died before the games, mentioning how it’s possible for most tributes to die from hunger and dehydration first. But by the time the 74th games are around the tributes are treated like royalty. And I like how in the movie a lot of that is implied of Snow’s doings. It also makes me realize the hunger games was probably originally a couple hour event versus the multi-day event in the 74th. I’d really like to see more movies and books about the games themselves and even more about how snow works his way up to becoming president, it would be an interesting thing with the hunger games of course having their own stories but also having an overarching background story of Snow’s rise and fall. It would be pretty cool I think. Some of the lines I thought were a bit corny but I liked it, and the actors did an amazing job. I’d need to see it again to really understand it but I enjoyed it, can’t wait for it to hit streaming, and I really hope Collins delves deeper into this universe and how Snow and even Tigris end up in their spots, because Tigris used to be a designer in the games and what exactly happened to have her not be in that position anymore?? So much to explore, so many questions. Ziegler’s voice is amazing and fits Lucy Grey so much in terms of just having a strong and powerful singing voice. Anyways, I think it was a great movie, I’d definitely rate it a 4/5 as well))
The relationship between Coriolanus and Lucy reminds me of a quote from Mike Flanagan's Haunting of Bly Manor: "People do, don't they? Mix up love and possession. I don't think that should be possible. I mean, they're opposites, really. Love and ownership."
In the books Katniss gets her Mockingjay pin from the mayor’s daughter, but it was cut in the movie. So in the books the Mayer and his daughter plays a bigger role but I think it was cut for time.
His last words in the movie and the book made me seethe lol, I wanted to yeet it right out the window after finishing like idk what I was expecting I mean it’s his literal villain origin story and I know his love story is doomed but you just automatically feel yourself rooting for 18 year old snow until he’s no longer coryo. But I mean at least the book made me feel something that’s for sure😂 literally bawled for sejanus during the book and the second time watching as well. And the fact coryo is sobbing and apologizing before he proceeds to rob him is crazy. Like are you sorry tho? Sure just keep taking money from his parents as well. Guess guilt isn’t your thing but poison sure is
I haven't read the book yet (bc literally where is the time?), but we're they insinuating the Sejanus was an addict in the film? I wasn't sure if I understood that scene correctly.
@@jtm881in the scene in the train to district 12 he says that he got the morphling for his knee that he hurt when he and Corio were trying to escape the arena
"Driven Snow" is actually referring to pure white snow drifts. Its an old timey phrase that i just happened to have looked up by coincidence a few days before seeing the movie. So yeah, its snow thats be blown into drifts.
I think Sejanus also was very much broken after the games. He started out relatively level-headed and smart, but witnessing his friend being brutalized in the capitol and the Hunger Games, nearly dying there himself, it must have really traumatized him. Maybe he had nightterrors over and over again and was impatient in district 12 because a part of him hoped it would put and end to his suffering if he could make a change for the better. And we should consider he's only 18 or sth, fresh out of school, maybe not the age where you're able to plan successfull rebellion or sth.
23:10 yeah in the movie the snakes seems like out of nowhere, in the books the snakes play a much bigger role and are like a looming danger for a while on coryo's mind, also in the books doctor gaul has been publicly executing tributes like for quite a while if i remember correctly she pareded them aound in chains like 2 times so the snakes to end all the tributes seem like more of a fitting thing in the books
Funnily enough in the first Hunger Games book one of the first Characters who is introduced is one of Katniss’ only “friends” Madge Undersee the Mayor of district 12’s daughter who is actually the person who gives Katniss the Mockingjay pin at the Seam (not Greasy Sae) Mayors have been in the book universe Trin! (Still betrayed you haven’t read the books)
Something that I loved about Rachel's performance was that she sang live! They recorded it, but when she filmed the movie, she sang all the songs live.
if u don’t want to read the books i def recommend listening to the audiobooks! the storyline and plot details are so much richer and add sm to the watching experience and a lot of the questions u had are answered! amazing vid as always ❤️
Hey there me again. She didn’t write Hanging Tree about Snow. There’s a whole mental rant he goes on in the book because he’s over her writing about Billy Taupe which is who The Hanging Tree is about. She didn’t have enough knowledge about Snow to insinuate he’d “wear a necklace of rope side by side with me” which means basically getting hung together. Just wanted to clear that up because the movie does a shit job 😅
No... I thought it was fairly clear, didn't they show how he was hanged before Lucy Gray wrote the song? At the same time, I think I might be biased bc I have context from reading the original trilogy (I haven't read this book yet)
Wasn’t the song about the District 12 rebel couple made up of the man who got hanged for killing 3 people and the woman who got hanged later on for planning to run away to the north (can’t remember their names)? Maybe my memory of the book is a little off but I’m pretty sure Lucy Gray wrote an entirely different song for Billy Taupe about him cheating on her with Mayfair and breaking her heart. Regardless, you’re def right about The Hanging Tree not being about Snow
@@ia490 yes that’s the scene she sets but there are two stories in the song. The one about the man “they strung up” who “they say he murdered three” and how he called out to his love in his last moments. Then there’s the story of Billy Taupe asking the Lucy Gray to meet him at the hanging tree the day this all went down. The last verse that states “wear a necklace of rope side by side with me” which insinuates they’ll be dying together at this meeting which is how she feels if she goes back to Billy because he literally indirectly got her name called in the reaping. She’s also saying “strange things have happened here, no stranger would it be if we met up at midnight in the hanging tree” because her name was not supposed to be called, she wasn’t supposed to have a chance at surviving and returning (to the aforementioned “here”) so why wouldn’t something as strange as her going back to Billy after everything be possible? Hope this helps.
@@jtm881 in the book there are allusions that it’s about Billy even though Lucy Gray never says it outright. Have a read, eye loved the books and this one reignited my spark in them.
I am so obsessed with this video I loveee the bosas hype like I am so obsessed with this movie. also I have literally listened to this soundtrack like a hundred times oop rachel ate that soundtrack up
5:55 They did mention the mayor of district 12 briefly in the original Hunger Games book. Him and his family were some of the only district born people in 12 to be relatively well off, and iirc Katniss reminisced about how the mayor's daughter was always kind in school but never got along with anyone else cuz they were always so much richer than everyone else in the district (or maybe it was just than Katniss, not sure)
A little saddened that we didn’t also get a Michael Microphone collab for this one, but a Trin solo adventure is always a good time! I also really enjoyed the movie!
the fact, that I watched the movie once and just couldn't help ms to see it twice, cause something about it got me hooked, ofc it's not perfect and some things weren't included like the 1st kiss and the development of the games and snow's healing process, from the terrorists attack, which took more time in books and was way more descriptive, but still the performance of the main characters, lucy's gray voice, iconic visuals and overall atmosphere is just top-notch actually the mayor's drop was in the 1st book, but they didn't include it in the movie, btw, mayor's daughter gave katniss legendary mocking jay as a present, but if you haven't read the book, it's gonna be a surprise
I’m glad I’m not the only one who thought the snakes felt a bit rushed. Which stinks cause a lot of that scene worked so well, it was just too much too fast
Girl the districts have had mayors! Katniss was given her mockingjay pin by the mayor’s daughter, who was her friend. I think they’re there to report to the capitol and be a ruling figure for the Capitol because they’re very rich
Honestly idk if this is because of recency bias but i think this is my fav movie of the whole hg series. Catching fire was my fav but ballads of the songbirds and snakes is just so raw & powerful. And i think lucy gray is just such a unique character
And people thinking Lucy the villain cause she played him only for him to turn into one anyway, yet they were probably both playing each other let’s be real. And she did the right thing leaving first but I think as soon as he got bit he felt betrayal and the footprints he saw were definitely his cause her feet ain’t that big and he had just been circling the forest looking for her. And the fact he has no idea what happens to her drives him mad bc she’s probably off long gone and taunting him so he shoots at the mockingjay for singing hanging tree then he gets rid of the guns anyway
the “really scary man look” you talked about where they go from completely fine to like absolutely feral… SCARY!!! i thought this was a classy party!!!
This is the best Hunger Games movie, and I will die on my death bed saying that. I have seen it 3 times in theaters and have tickets for 2 more days this week. This movie has a drug infused in it and is extremely addicting to watch. This move has the most rewatch ability out of any movie I have ever seen. This movie is beautifully made from the acting, to the music, to the visuals this is truly a masterpiece. Of course with some flaws as any movie has, but the 2:47 hour time run left me not feeling bored once the 3 times i’ve seen it. I would argue (despite what most people say) that the 3rd part could’ve even been 15-20 minutes longer. It took much of the book and was able to capture it in phenomenal movie action. They left out some aspects, but I do think this is the closest and best book adaptation from the entire series. This is by far my favorite and I have never fallen this obsessed with a movie before until now. Despite being a Hunger Games fan since I was just a kid, this movie has truly changed my perspective and has left me thirsting for more now than ever. The main leads with Rachel and Tom did an impeccable job at portraying Snow and Lucy Gray. The love story was captured beautifully (as I believe they did both love eachother for a short time). The main issue I have with the film is the depiction of Snows slow demise from innocence to corruption. In the book, we also see Snow lose almost all his innocence by the end of the novel, but when we are first introduced to his inner thoughts they already seem to be corrupted. The film takes the approach from pure to evil instead of slightly corrupted to evil. Although, I understand wanting to portray him in a more humane fashion as he was more human in the beginning of the story as compared to the end. Purely a great depiction of how power and greed can corrupt someone and turn them into their worst. I believe Snow loved Lucy while he had some underlying issues. Overall, an incredible film and probably in my top 3 of all time! Now i’m a minute in and can’t wait to hear Trins take
Holy crap yea I just realized they don’t hold a memorial for the fallen ones but thanks to reaper it’s somewhat easy to keep track when he stacks them side by side. And I thought it was funny cause instead of accepting his fate in the movie, he’d still be stacking bodies by one another while Lucy messes with him since they go head to head in the end (she basically distracts him with flag😅 remnants to get him to come after her and down to the puddle) yea explaining that just now made no sense as for a few other deaths so I see why they changed it in the movie lol
i recently heard a relationship therapist say “the overall feeling of love is safety and respect”. I don’t think Snow ever truly loved Lucy Gray because he never felt either of those things for her. He thought that he loved her, but in reality he felt of her the way you feel of an object or an animal; like a bird he would keep in a cage forever. He never loved her, he wanted to own her, like a prize.
22:20 in this part it was sooo evident that they might have kept this information aside so that they could use it at a moment like that. Reaper defies their whole dynamic, and BOOM Dr. Gaul cuts in with a reminder of who "the enemy" is to reinforce the dynamic. Like, information IS power.
2thing I need to get out of my chest 1. Snow is so smart and clever and he couldn't came up with a better answer when asked about the third one??? Like babes c'mon 2. By the point the games started Lucy gray must've been stinking.
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I really can't tell when you're being sarcastic.
Tigris calling him Coriolanus instead of Coryo, and telling him he looked just like his father got me chills. That’s the exact moment she knew he was not the same…
No because I watched TBOSAS for the first time yesterday; I actually thought the exact same thing! The power that line wields is inherently chilling.
tbh i think tom being casted and so attractive speaks to the fact that snow probably used his attractiveness as a way to gain power
Thats literally something the book touches on too. He knows he's attractive and uses it.
@@paddyq3235yes! Thank you
That makes sense. I think the media literacy when it comes to that choice is extremely poor though😅My stomach turns fr LMAO
+ whiteness. is a very prominent theme in the franchise, despite largely moving on from modern and original racial systems, it is a colonial society evolved upon ours, and considering he tends to think of the districters, specially those from the lower ones who were explicitly our modern racialized communities, it makes sense.
@@UnBesoDeCristalexactly
I really need them to release the 4.5 hour version of this movie
Right? It’s a good film but it could seriously be amazing if they were able to flesh it out a bit
I mean they made the hunger games 4 into 2 parts. I wouldn’t be mad if they did it with the prequel since it’s a one and done. Plus I felt it was missing things as someone who didn’t read the books.
As someone who did read the book, they had to condense a *ton* of stuff.
I honestly don’t know how they could’ve effectively cut it into two parts, because it’s so starkly structured into three. Sure, the first movie probably could’ve ended at Lucy Gray winning the Games, but then the second would be too short, and, honestly, I’m not sure people would come back for it; despite being a direct continuation, part 3 feels like a completely different story, and while the events of it are really good and really important to Snow’s character, they’re more introspective (in the book, at least, though I do think they did a pretty good job showing Snow’s thought process in the movie). There’s a lot less action than, you know, the battle to the death. The original trilogy was able to split the final movie into two parts because the story had escalated from the Games to literal revolution and warfare (and, frankly, those two are still widely regarded as the weakest in the series, even after we’d had two other movies’ worth of time to develop and care about the characters). No matter how they split it, at least one of the movies would have felt sparse and unnecessary
I don't think it's that's long I think the uncut is 3.5 hours 🙏
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I completely agree with what you said about Coriolanus wanting to own Lucy Gray. In the book he's constantly thinking about her in such disgusting, possessive terms, that she belongs to him, she's his, he literally gets angry about the fact that she had a life before she met him, like calm down
fr poor lucy gray unfortunately falls for SUCH controlling abusive ppl which is pretty much what happens in real life unfortunately
Exactly! Like Snow was 3 steps away from R-word-ing lucy, no fr he would surely force himself on lucy if she stayed. In the movie he may look nice but if someone knows his inner thoughts like the books, he is like Weekend's character from the new Idol series. Like there's a line in the book where he says "Tigris had a vulnerability that invited abuse which was sweet and snow couldnt get that thought of his mind"..... WTF DOES THAT EVEN MEAN
@@GigiM_winxIn mockingjay Finnick mentions that Snow & the capitol elites were committing inc*st. You think he acted on those thoughts…?
I'm so glad Lucy ditched that toxic abusive creep at the end. One red flag, a major one about murder and she was like, I'm gone.
@GigiM_winx All he meant by that was she was vulnerable because she was sweet. And if you read the whole thought he has he is clearly worried about her not that he thought it would be cool if she was raped
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“I’m just sending water”
“Tuberculosis on legs”
“I’m going to have to cancel my reservation”
You can’t say it wasn’t a comedy
And the « time for my milk and crackers » !? 😭
Lucy going into the Hunger Games with an Esmeralda dress and breaking Snow's heart is Mother
Also my theory is that Lucy found a portal to Narnia and is now this universe Taylor Swift
her name is lucy gray. It's her first name.
"esmeralda dress" 💀
Esmeralda dress. Exactly what I tought.
The covey seems to be inspired by the romani people so it kinda makes sense.
The way you described Snow being in love with Lucy Gray is exactly how I see it. Boy was in love in the way that he wanted to keep her in a cage by his side forever so he always knows where she is and she can never leave. Like he literally wishes she was back in the cage in the capitol when he's with her in 12, there is something SEVERELY wrong with this man.
There are actually mayors in the original books, I guess it just wasnt mentioned in the movies. In the books katniss is given the mockingjay pin by the mayor's daughter
@@rubyw.4900she's the mayor's wife's sister, so Madge's aunt
@@ia490 thank you!
I remember the mayor of 12 appearing in the second movie, being called as such
Yes! I was looking to see if anyone said this
oh i forgot about that but now I really like how for katniss the mayors daughter was kind to and gave a gift while for lucy grey the mayors daughter was cruel and evil to
I love the way Lucy’s disappearance played out. Not only Snows spiral, but the question becomes did Lucy plan to leave for good when she left the cabin? Maybe she did go out to get Katniss, and took an extended amount of time to see how Snow would react, given his quickness to kill loose ends. Was it a final chance to see Snows true colors? Did she stay around until the first gunshots went off, or was she already gone and him saying he killed 3 was enough proof for her? We don’t know. We only know Lucy from Snow’s perspective, really driving forward the mystery of Lucy Gray.
How I interpreted it from a conversation earlier where she said that trust was the most important to her.
I think she realized she couldn’t trust him/he didn’t fully trust her and saw how unhinged he was slowly becoming and wanted to get tf out before she turned into another loose end he wanted to deal with.
You know the theory that Lucy Gray survives being shot and escapes to district 13 to become the woman that becomes president After snow (actually Katniss shoots her )
“Goodbye Lucy Gray. We hardly knew you”
I think it’s interesting how he finds Lucy’s earring in the mud after he shot at her and pockets it… just to continue hunting her. Like he’s sick and twisted for real
Yeah I just watched it and this man had a little smirk 💀
Hunter delivered that last Tigris line so good.
love ur pfp
@@panpan4757 thanksss
Really is crazy how he basically robbed sejanus after killing him (if you read the book you’d know there was cash behind that framed diploma) and then continues to take advantage of his parents smh crazy
He stole from him too?! He is truly awful...
@@jtm881well at first he thought he‘d die too (after sejanus was executed). So he send the money to tigris. But he took it after he got to the capitol 😭 and he got anything he wanted from sejanus parents he really felt no guilt
Yup, he’s a menace.
It remembers me a fairy tale in which the villain girl pushed the fairy into the well, dressed her dress and marry the prince instead of her. 🤔
And along with the money, he took a cookie from Sejanus’s things and casually ate it. WTF
i so appreciate how this tale (movie + book) not only opens up the world and lore of the Hunger Games, but also accomplished NOT making Snow a redeemable or flawed hero - despite how attractive he was lol. Kudos.
Yeah, I really liked it! I was afraid that it would lean into making the audience sympathise for Snow because he had some sort of traumatic back story, but Suzanne delivered with this story.
The most pivotal scene in my opinion is when he kills in the arena, you could see the shift in his eyes when he continued to beat up the boy even though he could have left after the first punch.
He was obviously shaken up by his actions but when he told Tigris about the power he felt I just knew this was when something shifted in his psyche.
I haven’t read the book where I know he always had a superiority complex and was bad, but in the movies I think this was the first big step towards the reality that we see unfold in the hunger games trilogy.
In the book it becomes clear too that he gives up the choice of his actions by blaming it on his twisted notion of what is human nature, so he's never to blame for anything that he does, after all he "had no choice", it's an amazing book and the movie is also wonderful but it's much clearer in the book how Snow has always felt superior to everyone - instead of sympathizing with other's struggles because he himself has gone through some of it, he truly and fully believes they deserve to go hungry, to pay for the crime of trying to start a revolution, to die in the arena, but not him. Suzanne Collins keeps portraying white supremacists so well it makes me go a little insane lmao she's AMAZING
hey bestie! “driven snow” actually is an old term from the 1500s that means snow that was carried by the wind into drifts. the saying actually does mean to be pure! i think it’s supposed to speak as to how she sees him, in contrast to who he really is. the driven-through snow theory does make sense and also could have been intentional though! another cool word play thing about it is like driven Snow, as in he is driven and ambitious and nothing gets in his way. he’s only pure until that becomes his downfall. snow may land on top but it doesn’t stay for very long…
Thank you that part threw me off lol
the fact that trin and rachel are friends makes all this more amazing
Wait Really? how did Her and Zegler meet? sorry i'm out the loop
Wait really
@@Kevin.Costner.rachel is a youtuber so they probably met through youtube
guys is it just me or did Rachel's comment get deleted??? Watched the video like an hour ago and refreshed and don't see her comment anymore...
@@Genesis_06178I can still see it. I think it's just because trin unpinned it and pinned the raycon info instead
Just a quick little correction, driven snow is freshly fallen snow blown into drifts by the wind, “pure as the driven snow” does actually mean pure/untouched 😅
The song is more an illustration of Lucy Gray’s belief that she can trust Coriolanus
This is why research is important, I didn’t know this either
thank you i was gonna comment this since it was bothering me, its from shakespeares macbeth
I think Coral going after Lucy Gray is because Lucy Gray is obviously the favourite and has the attention of the Capitol more than any of the others, similar to how Katniss was the careers’ main target in her first games
when he comes back from district 12 his hair is so much more white (cold), i love that they did that to show his change in character from before he snapped to now
he said he wanted a bleach and tone, smiley face 😀
@@celiathirimanna5118bleach and tone?
honestly kind of a great way to show his change especially considering they basically removed his mother’s compact’s role which essentially did the same thing in the book going from full compact and powder in act 1 aka his warm curls to just the powder in act 2 his buzz cut which is him being stripped down to his most basic form to even that melting away and becoming paste in act 3 when his hair grows back and is now a cold toned slick backed look like his father his newest form
@@krstne444bleached to be blonde and toned to be more cold toned
@@brookiie no i was quoting tana mongeau😭😭
Not only was the Mockingjay pin originally given to Katniss by her bestie Madge who was the Mayor's daughter, but its original owner was also Madge's aunt who was both Katniss's mother's bestie and Haymitch's ally in the Second Quarter Quell (man held her hand as she bled out to death)
"there is no worse crime than being annoying" REALLY GOT ME OMG
The idea of people in the capitol still facing property is alluded to (from my interpretation) in the Mockingjay book. Specifically when katniss and crew camp out at those different apartments and all they have are a few cans of food. And then with castor talking about it taking his family 5 years to save up to bring pollux home. Just an added element of the capitol just being about appearances of oppulence. But those appearances don't really benefit anybody but the very few people who actually have control and are in power.
in ABOSAS snow talks about how the civil servants are second class citizens. still capitol, but not elite. it makes sense that they'd be barely hanging on as the elite got even richer. a widening wealth gap would also make the games even more of a necessary distraction, and also to show the civil servants what could happen to them if they ever rose up against the oligarchs.
Some notes:
-Mayors were there even in the trilogy but they didn’t include that in the movies, just in the books, the mayor’s daughter was even the character who gave Katniss the Mockingjay pin and they were friends (in the movie Prim gave it to her)
-The start of the hunger games from Lucy’s POV was honestly great since in the book it was just from Snows’s POV
-Lucy didn’t write “The hanging tree” for snow, it was about the execution and also it was in the POV of her ex lover (Billy Taupe) who tells her to meet him at the hanging tree and by the end before he dies he tries to stop Lucy from fleeing away, the whole song was explained in the book.
-Pure as driven snow is actually not that meaning, the song meant that she trusted him, you can look what “Driven snow” actually means.
-They don’t play the recording when they hang Sejanus in the book, so we never actually know if Sejanus knew that Snow betrayed him, all of this is honestly so sad, Sejanus deserved better.
-I loved the mystery aspect of the ending in that we never know what happened to Lucy gray, just like in the ballad, there’s so many possibilities.
Tbh the book gives more context on everything as it is always the case but the movie was really good!! Suzanne Collins is honestly a genius with her writing and discussing important topics by inserting them in the story!
Yesss thank you I was looking for someone to point these out
that viola davis impression almost made me cry laughing,, why DID she say that??? thank you viola
bro in the book dr gaul is SO psycho in the books like she loves a good rhyme starting multiple sentences with her saying “hippity hoppity” viola did her justice
the acting in this movie was soo fucking good
The book definitely adds a lot of information/context, but also makes it harder to empathize with Coryo. There are moments when you still do, but hearing his inner dialogue- he feels entitled to Lucy Gray after he believes he “saved her and sacrificed everything for her” (like boy no you did that for yourself and your future) so he started to give me the ick like halfway through instead of at the very very end lol
Exactly he’s so possessive over her and does everything for his own benefit (which honestly would be kinda hard to show in a movie but i think the movie still showed his selfish nature)
This is good to hear and gives me hope because I wanted to read it after seeing this movie, and im sorry to say how disappointing the movie was for me specifically due to the level of sympathy it seemed keen on showering on a character that is the devil incarnate
And even before that, I would say probably from the beginning of the book, the superiority complex he has because he's a Snow and the way he thinks about Sejanus (who considered Coryo his closest friend and even a brother) in his internal monologue really shows that he was selfish and self-centered from the very beginning - that he was always headed towards evil one way or the other and that it wasn't that Dr. Gaul or The Games made him evil, but that they just brought that side of him to the forefront whereas before he was putting on a persona.
what’s crazy is he kinda reminded me of katniss in the books. in the books katniss HATES that she owes her life to people throughout the books and snow feels the same way about lucy gray after the arena. only katniss feels like she can never stop owing them while he believes he doesn’t. it also shows how different their love is like she falls for peeta for who he is while snow falls for lucy gray for how she reflects on him and how he views her not how she actually is. it shows how they are similar but different
Okay but Trin definitely ATE up the Dr. Gaul impression
She paid homage to the iconic j law’s bow in hunger games where she says “thank you for consideration” and I thought it was a cute lil mic drop cause she wasn’t supposed to bow lol and Jennifer even said to her jokingly that she stole her bow😂
love that you brought up the sue sylvester comparison because not only does he dress like her but he literally thinks like her in the book
"That man's got a skirt and he's not afraid to use it" - great line! Loved it!
Fun fact: adrenaline can make you do crazy things like lift a beam off the boy you think is as pure as the driven snow 😂
Yes, the districts do have mayors. They cut it from the movie for time, but the mayor of district 12 actually knew the everdeens and was seemingly fond of them. His daughter, Madge was the only person other than Gale whom Katniss considered a “friend.” Madge is originally the one to give Katniss the Mockingjay pin when she visits Katniss after the reaping.
Rachel has an amazing voice, she should honestly sing in more projects.
Fax i think thats how she got her first acting gig on that musical movie
Yeah, I was pleasantly surprised! Not that I thought she would be a bad singer, but I still haven't watched West Side Story so I didn't know how great of singer she'd be- she was great though
@@jtm881I did see West Side Story, and I was still surprised! this movie’s soundtrack really showed off her vocal prowess in a different way!
@kyraproulx3941 She has range. In West Side Story, she sang in a beautiful soprano. This movie, her voice was deeper and darker. I was surprised, too.
@@Gigglingsiren exactly! i loved her in west side story, but her voice in this movie stuck with me much more!
Omg her performance with the snakes was so good, just thinking about it makes me wanna cry
I'm so mad there's no studio version of The Old Therebefore 😤
That scene with the snakes was so good. That's my fav song from the film
the buzzcut was a set up like i’m just a girl
PLS 😭
they way you are able to mimicking the exact cadence the actors say lines is crazy trin 😭😭😭
My favorite line is after the reaping when Lucy gray finishes signing one of snows classmates says “well she’s mentally ill”
“Singing? Is she out of her mind?”
Opening shot jump scare. I love it.
I think my favorite thing about this prequel is the worldbuilding/lore. The origin of The Hanging Tree, the song that became an anthem for the revolution (at least in the movie, not 100% clear about the book), being written by Snow’s ex! Possible Katniss ancestry (Lucy Gray’s cousin, Maude Ivory)!
snow is sue sylvester in another universe
i thought of the school bell prompting the beginning of the games as a way of saying, “lesson has started” since part of the reason for the games is to serve as a lesson for the districts-in addition to the fact that they’re kids.
District 12s mayor is also a big plot point in the books because his daughter gives katniss the mockingjay pins because they're friends
I feel like most questions you had , are all answered in the book.
For example , not only was the mayor mentioned in the FIRST hunger games book , Katniss' best friend from district 12 was Madge, the Mayors daughter
I appreciate that the show isn't just the Hunger Games again. It's a new creative movie in a world I like. It could have easily been another uninspired cash in.
We appreciate Trin's insights on this film. Seems like she goes into depth with how this whole movie plays out.
I liked this movie because it showed what the hunger games were, vs what they are (or again, were since they don’t exist in that canon anymore). The tributes being so poorly kept, Jessup dying from rabies, the girl with tuberculosis, the other girl who died before the games, mentioning how it’s possible for most tributes to die from hunger and dehydration first. But by the time the 74th games are around the tributes are treated like royalty. And I like how in the movie a lot of that is implied of Snow’s doings. It also makes me realize the hunger games was probably originally a couple hour event versus the multi-day event in the 74th. I’d really like to see more movies and books about the games themselves and even more about how snow works his way up to becoming president, it would be an interesting thing with the hunger games of course having their own stories but also having an overarching background story of Snow’s rise and fall. It would be pretty cool I think. Some of the lines I thought were a bit corny but I liked it, and the actors did an amazing job. I’d need to see it again to really understand it but I enjoyed it, can’t wait for it to hit streaming, and I really hope Collins delves deeper into this universe and how Snow and even Tigris end up in their spots, because Tigris used to be a designer in the games and what exactly happened to have her not be in that position anymore?? So much to explore, so many questions. Ziegler’s voice is amazing and fits Lucy Grey so much in terms of just having a strong and powerful singing voice. Anyways, I think it was a great movie, I’d definitely rate it a 4/5 as well))
Rachel is such an icon and she was the perfect choice for Lucy Gray Baird like she’s just so talented, one of the most powerful people today
The relationship between Coriolanus and Lucy reminds me of a quote from Mike Flanagan's Haunting of Bly Manor:
"People do, don't they? Mix up love and possession. I don't think that should be possible. I mean, they're opposites, really. Love and ownership."
In the books Katniss gets her Mockingjay pin from the mayor’s daughter, but it was cut in the movie. So in the books the Mayer and his daughter plays a bigger role but I think it was cut for time.
His last words in the movie and the book made me seethe lol, I wanted to yeet it right out the window after finishing like idk what I was expecting I mean it’s his literal villain origin story and I know his love story is doomed but you just automatically feel yourself rooting for 18 year old snow until he’s no longer coryo. But I mean at least the book made me feel something that’s for sure😂 literally bawled for sejanus during the book and the second time watching as well. And the fact coryo is sobbing and apologizing before he proceeds to rob him is crazy. Like are you sorry tho? Sure just keep taking money from his parents as well. Guess guilt isn’t your thing but poison sure is
I haven't read the book yet (bc literally where is the time?), but we're they insinuating the Sejanus was an addict in the film? I wasn't sure if I understood that scene correctly.
@@jtm881in the scene in the train to district 12 he says that he got the morphling for his knee that he hurt when he and Corio were trying to escape the arena
Rachel and Tom were amazing as Lucy and Snow! I loved Trin’s in depth insight on the film, Hunter ate as Tigrass as well!
"Driven Snow" is actually referring to pure white snow drifts. Its an old timey phrase that i just happened to have looked up by coincidence a few days before seeing the movie. So yeah, its snow thats be blown into drifts.
Watching snow turn evil was heartbreaking. The actor did a great job portraying both sides of his character, I feel
I think Sejanus also was very much broken after the games. He started out relatively level-headed and smart, but witnessing his friend being brutalized in the capitol and the Hunger Games, nearly dying there himself, it must have really traumatized him. Maybe he had nightterrors over and over again and was impatient in district 12 because a part of him hoped it would put and end to his suffering if he could make a change for the better.
And we should consider he's only 18 or sth, fresh out of school, maybe not the age where you're able to plan successfull rebellion or sth.
23:10 yeah in the movie the snakes seems like out of nowhere, in the books the snakes play a much bigger role and are like a looming danger for a while on coryo's mind, also in the books doctor gaul has been publicly executing tributes like for quite a while if i remember correctly she pareded them aound in chains like 2 times so the snakes to end all the tributes seem like more of a fitting thing in the books
You absolutely NAIL the accents lmaooo
Funnily enough in the first Hunger Games book one of the first Characters who is introduced is one of Katniss’ only “friends” Madge Undersee the Mayor of district 12’s daughter who is actually the person who gives Katniss the Mockingjay pin at the Seam (not Greasy Sae) Mayors have been in the book universe Trin! (Still betrayed you haven’t read the books)
Something that I loved about Rachel's performance was that she sang live! They recorded it, but when she filmed the movie, she sang all the songs live.
girl i did not expect you in costume 😭😭
if u don’t want to read the books i def recommend listening to the audiobooks! the storyline and plot details are so much richer and add sm to the watching experience and a lot of the questions u had are answered! amazing vid as always ❤️
Especially when get the context of the book, it makes you wanting to watch it again
every content creator is feeding my obsession with the hunger games with their vid releases recently 😂😂😂
Why does Trin do such a good Viola Davis 😂😂😂
Hey there me again. She didn’t write Hanging Tree about Snow. There’s a whole mental rant he goes on in the book because he’s over her writing about Billy Taupe which is who The Hanging Tree is about. She didn’t have enough knowledge about Snow to insinuate he’d “wear a necklace of rope side by side with me” which means basically getting hung together. Just wanted to clear that up because the movie does a shit job 😅
No... I thought it was fairly clear, didn't they show how he was hanged before Lucy Gray wrote the song? At the same time, I think I might be biased bc I have context from reading the original trilogy (I haven't read this book yet)
Wasn’t the song about the District 12 rebel couple made up of the man who got hanged for killing 3 people and the woman who got hanged later on for planning to run away to the north (can’t remember their names)? Maybe my memory of the book is a little off but I’m pretty sure Lucy Gray wrote an entirely different song for Billy Taupe about him cheating on her with Mayfair and breaking her heart. Regardless, you’re def right about The Hanging Tree not being about Snow
The Hanging Tree is about the first guy they showed hanged in the movie (the one that told his girl to run)
@@ia490 yes that’s the scene she sets but there are two stories in the song. The one about the man “they strung up” who “they say he murdered three” and how he called out to his love in his last moments. Then there’s the story of Billy Taupe asking the Lucy Gray to meet him at the hanging tree the day this all went down. The last verse that states “wear a necklace of rope side by side with me” which insinuates they’ll be dying together at this meeting which is how she feels if she goes back to Billy because he literally indirectly got her name called in the reaping. She’s also saying “strange things have happened here, no stranger would it be if we met up at midnight in the hanging tree” because her name was not supposed to be called, she wasn’t supposed to have a chance at surviving and returning (to the aforementioned “here”) so why wouldn’t something as strange as her going back to Billy after everything be possible? Hope this helps.
@@jtm881 in the book there are allusions that it’s about Billy even though Lucy Gray never says it outright. Have a read, eye loved the books and this one reignited my spark in them.
The costume?? Oh you’re taking it🙏🏾
JUMPSCARED BY THE BOB WIG
I am so obsessed with this video I loveee the bosas hype like I am so obsessed with this movie. also I have literally listened to this soundtrack like a hundred times oop rachel ate that soundtrack up
Sejanus wanted to be a medic but in the book they wouldn’t let him because he was to good at shooting (like bro just fake being bad like what)
He tried faking being bad, but he was still much better that everyone else.
Your voice overs in the characters are so GOOD!!!!
5:55 They did mention the mayor of district 12 briefly in the original Hunger Games book. Him and his family were some of the only district born people in 12 to be relatively well off, and iirc Katniss reminisced about how the mayor's daughter was always kind in school but never got along with anyone else cuz they were always so much richer than everyone else in the district (or maybe it was just than Katniss, not sure)
A little saddened that we didn’t also get a Michael Microphone collab for this one, but a Trin solo adventure is always a good time! I also really enjoyed the movie!
the fact, that I watched the movie once and just couldn't help ms to see it twice, cause something about it got me hooked, ofc it's not perfect and some things weren't included like the 1st kiss and the development of the games and snow's healing process, from the terrorists attack, which took more time in books and was way more descriptive, but still the performance of the main characters, lucy's gray voice, iconic visuals and overall atmosphere is just top-notch
actually the mayor's drop was in the 1st book, but they didn't include it in the movie, btw, mayor's daughter gave katniss legendary mocking jay as a present, but if you haven't read the book, it's gonna be a surprise
Mayors have always been a thing because in the Hunger Games book it’s the mayor’s daughter who gives Katniss the mockingjay pin.
I’m absolutely dead from Trin just staring at me in a red suit with a blonde wig I can’t🤣😭😭
GIRL that opening with the red blazer and WIGGG had me GAGGED
Man I want to watch it three times too. I watched it second time yesterday. You right. THERES SOMETHING that you cant get sick of
I’m glad I’m not the only one who thought the snakes felt a bit rushed. Which stinks cause a lot of that scene worked so well, it was just too much too fast
“stop trying to make poison happen, it’s NOT gonna happen” - someone to snow at some point probably
the dedication to the wardrobe in this video is everything and more ty trin bae 😚😚
Girl the districts have had mayors! Katniss was given her mockingjay pin by the mayor’s daughter, who was her friend. I think they’re there to report to the capitol and be a ruling figure for the Capitol because they’re very rich
Honestly idk if this is because of recency bias but i think this is my fav movie of the whole hg series. Catching fire was my fav but ballads of the songbirds and snakes is just so raw & powerful. And i think lucy gray is just such a unique character
TRIN IM BEGGING YOU PLEASEEEEE DO A SALTBURN COMMENTARY!!!! That movie is insane!!!!!
For 6:01 katniss was actually bestfriends (sorta) with Madge the mayors daughter and she’s the one who gives katniss the mockingjay pin in the books 😭
dude your vocal impressions of the characters are so on point. like gaul, and this part 20:00 >>
The time has come y’all !!! We are living for the hunger games content!! 🩷
And people thinking Lucy the villain cause she played him only for him to turn into one anyway, yet they were probably both playing each other let’s be real. And she did the right thing leaving first but I think as soon as he got bit he felt betrayal and the footprints he saw were definitely his cause her feet ain’t that big and he had just been circling the forest looking for her. And the fact he has no idea what happens to her drives him mad bc she’s probably off long gone and taunting him so he shoots at the mockingjay for singing hanging tree then he gets rid of the guns anyway
there were mayors in the books!! the pin was given to katniss by the mayor’s daughter in the books!!!
the “really scary man look” you talked about where they go from completely fine to like absolutely feral… SCARY!!! i thought this was a classy party!!!
girl what do you mean you didn't know there were mayors? Katniss' best friend in the books is the daughter of the mayor of district 12
Watching this in the cinema and everyone collectively groaning at snow’s ‘the third person I killed was my old self’ line
Same! I left the theater feeling this movie seemed really rewatchable.
I've watched this movie three times and Trin makes the impressions so well that I'm watching the movie for the fourth time😂😂
Trin, may I just say your Dr. Gaal impression was on point, the intonation and everything perfect
This is the best Hunger Games movie, and I will die on my death bed saying that. I have seen it 3 times in theaters and have tickets for 2 more days this week. This movie has a drug infused in it and is extremely addicting to watch. This move has the most rewatch ability out of any movie I have ever seen. This movie is beautifully made from the acting, to the music, to the visuals this is truly a masterpiece. Of course with some flaws as any movie has, but the 2:47 hour time run left me not feeling bored once the 3 times i’ve seen it. I would argue (despite what most people say) that the 3rd part could’ve even been 15-20 minutes longer. It took much of the book and was able to capture it in phenomenal
movie action. They left out some aspects, but I do think this is the closest and best book adaptation from the entire series. This is by far my favorite and I have never fallen this obsessed with a movie before until now. Despite being a Hunger Games fan since I was just a kid, this movie has truly changed my perspective and has left me thirsting for more now than ever. The main leads with Rachel and Tom did an impeccable job at portraying Snow and Lucy Gray. The love story was captured beautifully (as I believe they did both love eachother for a short time). The main issue I have with the film is the depiction of Snows slow demise from innocence to corruption. In the book, we also see Snow lose almost all his innocence by the end of the novel, but when we are first introduced to his inner thoughts they already seem to be corrupted. The film takes the approach from pure to evil instead of slightly corrupted to evil. Although, I understand wanting to portray him in a more humane fashion as he was more human in the beginning of the story as compared to the end. Purely a great depiction of how power and greed can corrupt someone and turn them into their worst. I believe Snow loved Lucy while he had some underlying issues. Overall, an incredible film and probably in my top 3 of all time! Now i’m a minute in and can’t wait to hear Trins take
Holy crap yea I just realized they don’t hold a memorial for the fallen ones but thanks to reaper it’s somewhat easy to keep track when he stacks them side by side. And I thought it was funny cause instead of accepting his fate in the movie, he’d still be stacking bodies by one another while Lucy messes with him since they go head to head in the end (she basically distracts him with flag😅 remnants to get him to come after her and down to the puddle) yea explaining that just now made no sense as for a few other deaths so I see why they changed it in the movie lol
i recently heard a relationship therapist say “the overall feeling of love is safety and respect”. I don’t think Snow ever truly loved Lucy Gray because he never felt either of those things for her. He thought that he loved her, but in reality he felt of her the way you feel of an object or an animal; like a bird he would keep in a cage forever. He never loved her, he wanted to own her, like a prize.
22:20 in this part it was sooo evident that they might have kept this information aside so that they could use it at a moment like that. Reaper defies their whole dynamic, and BOOM Dr. Gaul cuts in with a reminder of who "the enemy" is to reinforce the dynamic. Like, information IS power.
2thing I need to get out of my chest
1. Snow is so smart and clever and he couldn't came up with a better answer when asked about the third one??? Like babes c'mon
2. By the point the games started Lucy gray must've been stinking.
In the book Corio and Tigris prepare her for the interview by giving her soap and washing her dress