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What You Never Knew About Fanta
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- Опубліковано 15 сер 2024
- How Coca Cola Invented Fanta in Germany... Thank you Surfshark for sponsoring this video! Go to surfshark.deal... and enter promo code ANDONG for 83% off and 3 months free.
You may have heard that Fanta was invented in Nazi Germany. That is true - but behind this fact is a much more fascinating story about the Coca Cola companies relationship with Nazi Germany.
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Spanish subtitles by Daniel González
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Chapters:
00:00 Intro
2:17 Germany Meets Coca-Cola
4:16 The Godfather of German Coke
5:53 ...But is it Aryan??
10:04 The Big Sellout
13:04 Surfshark
14:21 Birth of a Beverage
17:51 Conclusion: So, is Fanta Nazi?
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Great delivery, as always. If you ever run out of this type of topic or just want a wider choice -- off the top of my head I can think of 4 similar ones I encountered when I was active on Wikipedia. Probably one or two more if I actually start thinking about it. (To be clear: I mean similar in the sense of being totally surprising and mostly unknown historical facts that make people think, while not being too controversial.) This one was new to me, though. Let me know if you are interested, and I'll send you the short list by email, to prevent spoiling the surprise for anyone else reading this post.
so is the wartime recipe known and are you going to make your own to figure out if it was any good?
i feel like i needed a vpn to watch this vid.
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Massive props to an advertiser who doesn't fear negative reaction because of the subject matter of the video.
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Answer, apparently: Fanta was invented by a huge coke addict.
ironically coke addicts give me shit for being easy to bribe with a bottle of Fanta 😂
he was also a cola addict ;)
The editing, the storytelling and the overall quality 🤤The videos have become unrealistically good!
Heil Eypee who edited this like the UA-cam Führer himself
Eypee does a FANTAstic job!
It's crazy. It's better than most professional documentaries.
@@mynameisandong ehrlich gesagt sehr geschmacklos sowas zu sagen
@@loquaxmusic Heul leise
A work of art… we’re spoiled to youtube hyper premium 😭 😭 😭
miss the days where i could just eat a chocolate bar in a funny hat….
you should try to make your own version of the original original fanta :)
Love it!
he did in his cola/sprite/cola episode
@@noufook55 that's modern Fanta. Now we go for the legendary Fanta!
100% yes! I came here to say this and that idea has a ton of viral potential.
@@konokiomomuro7632 Legendary Fanta is a great way not to call it Nazi Fanta
Actually, that original Fanta recipe sounds pretty good to me. I sometimes blend a glass of whey with half an apple and drink it on lots of ice in summer. It's very refreshing. Add some citrus extracts, you almost got yourself a cocktail.
Maybe a video idea come summer?
And very interesting story. Thanks for doing all that research, to entertain us 👍
The "original" Fanta recipe almost tastes exactly like standard german orange Fanta nowadays, just has a slightly different mouth feel to it because of the milk sugars/fats
Yeah, in austria sweetened whey is also consumed as a beverage with flavors like mango and passionfruit. Not gonna lie, i can imagine it would not taste too bad.
There's a swiss made lemonade on whey basis. It's called Rivella and is quite nice.
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Really? I admit, I haven't had any Fanta in years. But I never associated the taste with either whey or apples 🤔
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I shall try that. I rarely buy soft drinks, but this intrigues me 😉
Karl from InRangeTV talked about this a while ago, but in less detail.
My favorite tidbit was that German soldiers were usually ecstatic to find Coke crates after capturing Allied positions down in Africa. Since freezers for soldiers weren't really a thing, they take the coke bottles, strap them to airplane wings, and cool them with the rushing air in the wings slipstream.
After landing, if they were lucky, the bottles would still be there and they would have a nice refreshing drink.
The opposite was also true for the Allies, but it was for Sho-Ka-Cola. It was (and still is, you can still buy newly made Sho-ka-cola online) a chocolate infused with kola nut and caffeine, mainly as an energy boost for athletes (it was also used during the Olympics Andong mentioned), and pilots during long flights.
Wow, Scho-Ka-Kola is also a product of those times?
@@erzsebetkovacs2527 I think it was set up just before the war. As I said, it was used during the Olympics in the 30's, and later as kinda light rations or energy boosters (along with Pervitin, or as normal people call it - meth).
I've just checked, just in case - Scho-Ka-Kola was introduced in 1936.
@@raccoonking7566 BTW, it just occurred to me that in the Hungarian language, a very thick, hard and cheap variety of marmalade (which consists of mostly pectine, sugar and dog knows what fruit if any...) is usually colloquially called "Hitler's bacon", hitlerszalonna. It is still used nowadays for filling cakes and cookies because that amount of pectine makes it heat resistant, and it stays in place during baking. The received wisdom for its Hungarian name is that allegedly, this stuff was included in military rations during WW2. But now I am wondering if this story is true. Do you know if there really was a similar product consumed in Nazi Germany?
@@erzsebetkovacs2527 Since you peaked my interest, I searched around online about this stuff. The broad story seems to be true, where Germany provided rations to the Hungarians, and pretty much the only thing they liked was this weird log of pumpkin jam that came wrapped up in paper.
I couldn't find if this was a product actually sold in Germany, I do highly doubt that they produced it exclusively just for the Hungarian forces. It's possible it was scavanged from one of the nations Germany had invaded and conquered, so they had a bunch of this stuff lying around. It's also possible that it was an actual product in Germany, and I'm just not finding it. Wikipedia says it's kinda similar to lokum, or Turkish delight, so there might be some sort of connection there, if I knew the exact year they started giving it to the troops, it could narrow it down a bit.
Technically the best way to find info about this is to go searching in some sort of archive, they could have shipping manifests or something that could lead the way.
It might actually be a fun project to do, especially for you Hungarians, since it's kinda your special thing you got from the war.
@@raccoonking7566 The Hungarian historian cited by the English wiki article seems to put it to 1942 (the year when Hungarian forces suffered huge losses at the Don). No, I don't think it was a product just for Hungarians, but I can't find a similar German product, either. My best guess is the Opekta food additive, so far...
Your storytelling is as capturing as ever, mixed with some humor and great editing, you outdid yourself.
I hope the video does as well as it deserves, but I believe your titles need to be a bit more clickbait for that
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Yeees! I love these investigative videos from you! (Found you on that Selters video you did btw :) )
Debatably my favourite videos he has
Andong, I'm sure I'm not the only one that would love to see a recreation of the original Fanta, it sounds like an interesting drink!
This video reminded me of Billy Wilder's One, Two, Three... Brilliant movie. "Schlemmer!!!"
And also that I drank a lot of Cola in one of the two countries where they don't have Coca Cola. That's why Cuba Libre tastes wrong with Coca Cola.
You should also note, that Adolfs friend, mentor and sponsor, Henry Ford had no problem keeping his German subsidiaries running in 1939. And produced light trucks for the Wehrmacht. US Companies were allowed until 1942 to do business with Germany and did so.
The part that stuck with me most was the recipe for the war time fanta. So it was whey, pressed apples, a little bit of citrus and sugar. Seriously, whey?? In a weird way, that actually sounds kind of good. I can imagine the whey smoothing out the acidity and making it easier to drink, especially if you can't use much sugar.
If you ever get the possibility to taste Rivella, do it! It's a Swiss whey soda, probably THE Swiss soda.
Sounds like Chabeso
Check out another whey drink produced in Switzerland, Rivella. Its sales are second only to Coca Cola over there, and its exported to the Netherlands and all over the surrounding countries.
Yeah, and it tastes SO GREAT! I would love to be able to buy Rivella here in Poland.
@@swisski I love it, and actually always thought it was a Dutch brand until I did some research after watching this video
I guess the swiss Rivella (which contains whey) is much closer to the original Fanta as everything ele.
Looks like the original Fanta was some sort of apfelschorle? Interesting!
Andong, probably, Nutella has a alike story like a Fanta one. Even though the Germans, in WWII, created a chocolate shortage in Italy, this fact might have originated Gianduia, as known as, Nutella. I don't know if you mentioned this information on you Nutella video.
BTW, I love Fanta. This is my favourite soda.
Gianduia was around way before WW2 - but you're right in that wars always shape food behaviour! In the case of Gianduia it was Napoleon. :)
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I that thing have nothing to do with Napoleon at all okay my friend 🙂😎✌️😁😁😁😁👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
And PS Supercrema gianduja is made by Ferrero, that is now Nutella by Ferrero, by the way my friends 🙂😁😎✌️👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Nutella have nothing to do with Germany 🇩🇪 at all, not at all, and Nutella or Supercrema gianduja is actually original made by The Italian family Ferrero in Alba, Italy 🇮🇹, by the way my friends 🙂😁✌️😎😎😎😎👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
These videos are basically documentaries, and always so much more interesting than I anticipate. Thanks Andong! And the rest of the team!
I think the OG WW2 Fanta recipe might be an interesting flavor to recreate. Fermented whey mixed with cider pulp and grape pulp carbonated into a drink is a flavor profile I would like to drink.
I think the UA-camr Chemist Nilered made Fanta in his channel
18:40 Damn now i really wanna try the original original Fanta. The recipe is probably still hidden away somewhere in Coke's vault.
Freakin' best episode, EVER. Totally loved it. And you didn't have to measure out any ingredients or clean up any pots/pans/dishes.
Max Keith's whole story is the very definition of "sigma male grindset". "I don't care that my factory is in the middle of a warzone, I got soda to sell!"
The "Good old days" they were talking about in the ads was probably intended to mean the Wirtschafftswunder. Based on the history of the company/drink though written a bit obliviously and not in good taste.
This dude truly maxed his Charisma and Intelligence. Max pulled probably some of the most impressive beauracratic exploits I've seen throughout history. Truly impressive.
Max Keith: I was a business man...doing business
Now it is our duty to take Andong words out of context and montage a video of him praising Nazi ideology
I was worried the whole video that our host would accidentally kick that bottle off the table while gesturing. 🙀
This was super duper interesting! I have and will always love the way you tell stories and deep dive into history!
Also will you ever make more homemade carbonated beverages? I am still patiently waiting for that malta goya drink we talked about Haha.
Hope you are well and always looking forward to all of your content.
I'd be really interested to see if you can come up with a recipe inspired by that wartime Fanta. A citrus and whey soda sounds intriguing.
Talking about Softdrinks and WW2, I remember reading that a german competitor, Afri-Cola, tried to discredit Coca-Cola to take over the german market. They tried to frame Coca-Cola as jewish because the bottle caps denoted Coke as kosher. And now I've just reached the part where you talk about it yourself xD
Interestingly enough, modern (since the 1980s) Coca-Cola in the US has to be specifically designated with yellow caps during Passover to indicate bottles made with Sucrose because the US version typically uses HFCS instead of sucrose like the original did. HFCS is made from corn, which some groups of the Jewish faith consider kitniyot and also won't consume (in addition to the typical grains) during Passover.
Excellent video. The only thing missing is a note that today‘s Fanta has nothing to do with the 50‘s/60‘s version, either. That version - briefly reintroduced as Klassik as you noted - IMHO tastes a lot better than today‘s Fanta in Germany. Also, Fanta in other countries taste dfferent, too, which is rather strange for such a big company.
So does Coca-Cola...in the US, it tastes a LOT sweeter than here in Germany. I thought it was awful.
this was informative and at the same time surprisingly fun to watch. thank you bro. your dedication to this is something else
I can imagine that Coca-Cola meant the post-war time, when everyone was like "oof thank god it's over" but that would still not have been it lmao
I admire the people who've rebuild everything and it used to be heavily romanticised (yikes from my side) but I don't see their era as "the good old times" 😂 wouldn't even be surprised if it was the idea of a "blissfully unaware" neo.
This was super interesting! If you are going to do more on soft drinks, what about something on the rise and fall of Chabeso? Something on the East German colas, like Vita Cola, might be interesting, too.
You’re a chef who’s a talented cinematographer. And a cinematographer who’s a talented chef. Bravo.
Does anyone know what happened to Max Keith after the war? Like every single thing about him ends right after the end of WWII. I'd be super curious to know what role, if any, he had in coca-cola after.
Well. Imagine if Germany from the 'good old days' not only where producing all the stuff they themselves needed, but also had many other economies dependent on their cheap exports.
Do you think the rest of the world would care about concentration camps in Xinjiang if this was the state of things?
Let's count our selves lucky Tibet never had any defense treaties with the rest of Asia.
"I don't give a damn if there's a war goin on! I want to sell soda! And by God I'm gonna do it."
-Max Keith, probably
Always loved this story never knew the whole thing though
"jah, liebe Leute. Dit wird hier nüscht mit eurer Zuckerbrause" XDDD i am dying
OK, now it all makes sense, Du bist ein Berliner. And you have the famous Berliner sense of humor. My grandparents came from Waidmanslust, and had the same sense of humor. And while the Austrians may say that a German has to run behind a tree to laugh they are not talking about the Berliners. ;o) Your presentations are great, echt Deutsch, and with humor. Great work, vielen Dank.
You nailed it, great stroy telling and video edit. Enjoyed listening to this amazing piece of history.
15:50 Little correction: Saccharose/Sucrose is normal table sugar. I'm guessing you confused it with something else
yes, with saccharin :)
This video reminds me so much of my grandfather, who used to own a green grocer store in post-war Austria and was also a distributor of Coca Cola, he never let us drink Coke because it was too sugary and caffeine laden lmao
It's a little apocryphal, but supposedly, German pilots and soldiers in North Africa valued captured cases of American Coke so highly that they ignored a lot of other things they might otherwise take during a capture of an American position. There are a few stories of German pilots wrapping bottles of Coke in wet towels and strapping them to their wings and fuselage during routine flights so they could bring back cold bottles of Coke for their friends.
EDIT: 8:32 That is a hell of an understatement
I grow up in Germany in the 70/80's and I still miss the 'old' Fanta, it tasted way better when they changed it, it was for sure Not for the better.
I also remember the 80s Fanta - it tasted different than today's Fanta (and much better).
So now you must do Fantakuchen, and explain how this cake become the birthday cake from a whole generation of germans
I'm German and I've never heard of that cake before.
I'm german and I never heard of that ,,massive" outcry ever or that there was a vintage bottle
This video has a huge "Reading Mein Kampf and shaking my head the whole time so the people on the bus know I disagree with it" energy and I love it so much
Great video! Your content is one of the reasons I prefer UA-cam over regular television.
Here is a potential idea for content...examine other foods we eat whose ingredients are sourced from repurposed waste...such as Marmite/Vegemite.
My favorite now is Edeka's Gut und Günstig. The label used to call it "American Taste". In comparison the other store brands like Aldi's River taste watered down to me. It sent me down a rabbit hole of researching EU labeling regulations because I was afraid the secret ingredient of the "American Taste" was HFCS... but, nope! In Germany "sugar" means sugar. It's always wild to me when I buy a 1,5L bottle of real sugar Edeka cola for 49c, remembering how a "Mexican Coke" would be a dollar for 20oz.
I actually watched the whole 20 minutes. killer editing and presentation. love it.
Thanks for another great video!
It probably bears mentioning that the label/poster you show when telling the story about the Afri Kola executive taking a picture of the kosher label in New York is like not that original label. The one you show has the TaB logo on it, and TaB wasn't introduced until the 1960s.
Just an annotation :-)
Great video, just one thing: The Nazis nationalized barely anything at all, that would be Socialist and against their goals. They actually transferred ownership of foreign companies to "Aryans", but you'd be hard pressed to find them nationalizing any private businesses (in fact, they privatized huge portions of the state).
lol nope you know IG Farben? And they are National-Socialists - you know right? xD They nationalized many products but hmkay - have you heard of Volkswagen? And war industry?
@@kanalisationerstellen Yes, IG Farben is a perfect example of what I was talking about. They were a huge conglomerate, privately owned. Volkswagen also was a private business. I don't see what you're getting at, but your profile picture honestly partially explains your confusion.
@@sneg__ they're attempting the usual "oh they have SOCIALIST in the name!" misdirection. Fascism is advanced capitalism.
@@sneg__ Volkswagen was NOT a private business. See the Wikipedia article, where it says: "Founded in 1937 by the German Labour Front under the Nazi Party, it[..]"
@@vaelophisnyx9873 The NS regime actually introduced plenty of social care programs & reforms in the 30s and added new social laws that are still in use today, believe it or not. The truth often lies outside of buzzwords and one-sided ideological thinking.
"...who was the business führer..." * spits Fanta all over keyboard * Andong! * wags finger sternly * You did that on purpose!
Never ask a German company what they were doing between 1933 and 1945😳
Amazing video as always! You should totally make a video recreating/improving the original war time fanta
the original fanta recipe sounds like rivella.
i bet rivella is paying people to not mention it and you can't convince me otherwise.
Wie intresannt ist das denn. Gehört jetzt auf jeden fall zu den Funfacts die ich mir im Kopf behalten werde.
I missed these type of history videos on products! Amazing work!
yeah the doktor kolbasa one was good.
Hovering over the thumbnail and seeing the Fanta symbol become a Nazi flag was a trip.
Holy shite bro, you have mighty brass balls to mess around with this subject at all 😂🙏🙏🙏
1:52 but hey that’s just a theory, a food theory
Hey, what about doing some "original flavor" Fanta?
You know, I was half-expecting this video to be sponsored by Cola 🤣
I would say that Coca Cola and Fanta are THE MOST CAPITALISTIC thing that I have gotten wind of in the last few months xD.
Rivella the swiss lemonade is made of whey. Might be close to the original Fanta.
Fantastic video!
I love the way you presented this history, Andong. I'll be passing links to a few of my friends who are into food history so they can enjoy it, as well.
I wish they would bring the original formula out again. I live in Germany and I really liked it when I tried it. I like it better than the new Fanta.
I was just reading they said many people bought Fanta not for drinking but to use as a sugar substitute. I wonder how the original Fanta tasted
Im picturing him with his fanta.
troops are storming in,and he holds the bottle calling fanta his precious 😂😂
The only thing I ever knew about Fanta are its Nazi origins. Great with gin.
I just LOVE your productions. I knew this history allready, but hearing it from you is so entertaining.
I don't drink Fanta, but an interesting story.
"Germany first".... wait where did I hear that before.... ooooh right
I see a bright future ahead of this channel hope to see more historical content
This has to be the BEST documentary on Fanta and its dubious origins in Nazi Germany! My brother and I grew up with Fanta in Germany during the 1970s and 1980s since we preferred the flavour. As a German, I get it a lot about the Fanta's connection with Nazi, which I knew wasn't true, but the Americans insisted on "rehashing" the documentaries and reports. I asked them about the involvements of IBM, Ford, and giant Americans corporations in Nazi Germany by supplying the regime with technologies and materials needed. They just lost the shit and blathered nonsense...
I used to have my office in the former German Coca Cola headquarters, got a tour of the tasting booths, sat in labs and also checked out the "red room"... If you want a tour, hmu :)
German Fanta still tastes really different to the ones in other counties. More sourness between all that sweetness. I tasted fanta from some countries, like France, Italy, Netherlands, Egypt, Senegal, Oman, and south east Asia like Thailand, Cambodia, Malaysia, Burma. Lived in Thailand for 7 years, and really missed the taste of German Fanta, and the Fanta Cola mix called Spezi.
Great video! Where did you find this recipe?
Brilliant...
I Grew up in Halle Saale, when I came to Los Angeles and saw the Cosby show in English I thought 'das ist geil they translated it to english' I then realized how ridiculous that was which led me on a profound journey to reexamine my world view...
Really like how you and the team put together these incredible videos. Tight storytelling, solid - often surprising - food history, and great visuals/cinematography.
I'll admit I put this one off for a week because I knew it was going to be a ride. Now that I've watched it, I'm also impressed that you managed to address history which provokes such strong emotions with nuance and throw in some accurate blink-and- you'll-miss-them asides around current events in the US (it remains scary over here). Wonderful work. Really.
I really dig Afri Kola, it's not the same as Coca Cola but that's not bad. I buy off-brand cola's like Fritz or Afri Kola when I want a cola to enjoy. Regular Coca Cola is 'just' a drink to lessen thirst. Still think Fritz might be one of the best cola's out there though.
yeah i try to avoid coca cola cause they are fucked, but i guess afri aint much besser as far as their history. fritz its good tho.
Scholz loves the good old days. Amazing video BTW. The B-roll footage you found is glorious.
I'm Jewish, and just got back from a Jewish-history tour of Poland... The timing of this is crazy.
I remember seeing this bottle design in Brazil in the early 80's. We had Fanta Orange and Lemon (better than Sprite, IMHO). Then came Grape (still in production, my favourite) and Apple (sadly discontinued)
I've always loved your videos and your production quality is amazing; but this video is on a whole new level of interesting and well edited. Thank you for the fascinating history lesson!
Notification squad anyone?
ma boiii
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Max Keith sounds like the worst type of capitalist I've ever heard of
This story reminds me a bit of Soviet Union here, how Pepsi was allowed to be sold during Olympic games period in 1980. Before that Soviet people mostly drank beer, kvass, kompot or sparkling water (sometimes with fruit syrup for flavor). Afterwards USSR started making their own sweet drinks, that some are still made nowadays in post-Soviet republics, like Tarhun, Buratino, Krushion or Baikal (which was btw supposed to be in idea made similar to Pepsi but had different taste, likely less sugar and less addicting).
Great informative video (as usual) 🥰
I made a quick research on Max Keith but there wasn’t much information on him after WWII or when he died.
Do you know anything about that?
Awesome video andong! Long time silent lurker here 😇 when is a new pasta video coming out?
Thanks :D More pasta coming soon! :)
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"There are no mistakes"-master oogway
Was that vintage Andong music at 2:10? Woah
Man this channel is criminally underrated :(
How is this channel "underrated"? He's got more than 600.000 subscribers..
@@NorthSea_1981 I didn't think I had to explain the concept of linear time to someone, but I guess there is a first for everything. You see, this comment was made 8 months ago when he had less subscribers.
And if you take a look at his videos tab you will see that he only gets like 60k views per video, I would still call that underrated even if he has gained subs.
I will also point out that subs mean nothing, you should look at sub count to average view count.
I watch this while sipping on a zero sugar Sunkist. True rebel.
What a rollercoaster of emotions! Great video!
"Aryan race" reminder that it is an ethnocultural self-designation by Indo-Iranians.
As usual Hitlah took something from somewhere and uses it in his propaganda.
In a way he was quite a progressive guy. He took a lot of ideas/concepts from other cultures and made it his own.
Hitlah?^^
@@Kenshinhugo "progressive"
Just like the swastika and the faeces.
Ooooh yes Andong and food history needed something for my morning coffee 😍😍
Love me some Africola. My old job sold it for a while. It's where I first tried it
Max Keith:
> WWII starts : I sleep
> Coke syrup runs out: REAL SHIT