@@StormW16 Also, who do you think created everything? God. The Bible is right about everything. The fact you said to stop using a spiritual book when it comes to science says literally everything I need to know about you. You don't know the truth, you definitely don't know God and you are badly stuck in this world and brainwashed. You have a lot of programming to undo before you understand the truth, and that's if it even happens.
I have spent my entire life as a scientist and science educator. However the more I learn and discover, the more I realise the enormity and elegance of the natural world. But more importantly I realise how little we scientists know.
@ I was being facetious. They are purposely using that model because it is ridiculous and will discredit the flat earth movement. There is a huge war going on between God and the adversary. Globe Earth Theory feeds the Evolution Theory. Satan wants nothing more than to pull you away from our creator.
It is only truth based on ignorance (ignore rant) it can only be proven by using massive bias and assumption.. For the reason previously mentioned the people going for the experiment must be careful the non truthers may attempt to either harm or force deception. Do not sign any NDA.
I was raised Christian, and not once was I ever led to believe by my parents, any parishioner, or any spiritual leader that the earth is young and that evolution isn't a real thing. I grew up understanding that the creation days of Genesis weren't literally ordered 24-hour periods but just different phases of the universe and the Earth being created, because our human concept of time doesn't apply to God. God saying "let there be light" was easily understood to be the big bang and the forming of stars, planets, and solar systems. God separating water from water with a firmament and creating land was the geological processes that took billions of years and created a livable atmosphere, the oceans, and continents and led to the first instance of life, which moved forward when god created plants. God letting the land produce living creatures according to their kinds and eventually man was the process of evolution. Man having dominion over all other animals and naming them is an example of the higher intelligence that humans managed to evolve that other animals didn't. I see no reason for Christians or other non-Christian religious people to work against society by ignoring scientific evidence because they decide to interpret the Bible as saying something that it really isn't necessarily saying. Religious people sure can believe what they want, but believing in young earth and being anti-evolution only serves the purpose of making it harder for themselves to understand our world and giving them a sense of importance in that they have answers that other people don't. John Paul II said "Science can purify religion from error and superstition; religion can purify science from idolatry and false absolutes. Each can draw the other into a wider world, a world in which both can flourish." You would think that religious people would focus less on being so certain of things like this (what is the point of faith if you already know everything?), because that's exactly what drives people away from religion when they have a question and are met with "That's what the Bible says, and that's just how it is." While religion steers toward just knowing and being certain of something in a context like the globe and flat earth debate, the scientific process is built on the premise of not knowing something. Why do we engage in science? Because there is something we do not understand. We use what we do know to find out something we don't know, and in the process, we either learn something new that was previously unknown, or we learn that something we once thought we knew is incorrect. If there is a 24-hour sun in Antarctica in a couple days, there will be more evidence to support the globe model. If there is not a 24-hour sun, then globe earthers will know that there is something wrong with their model and will need to learn more about it. Religious people seem to have less discernment. Faith is important, but there's no reason to throw out facts in the process of having faith. Just because you decide to believe that evolution is real and the Earth is four billion years old doesn't mean you're throwing out the baby as well.
@@SharingCaring-u1f Well since you can write your own version of the creation, i totally understand why you believe your authority is above biblical record. I believe the bible authority is above all other theories. The problem is faithless people assume things including where the real authority is.
The Earth is spherical but not millions of years old. The reason people think it's old is because that's what they've been taught in the government run schools and the propaganda wing of the left, aka fake news media. Science points to a young Earth.
You realize that stopping the sun in it's orbit around Sagittarius A, and then all of the planets around the sun, and then the moon around earth is a MUCH more impressive flex right? The sun moves. If Jehova stopped it, he had to stop EVERYTHING. And then flip the switch on inertia to make it so that everyone didn't turn into red paste in the process. That entry in the bible doesn't say the earth is flat, it says that Jehova is WAY MORE POWERFUL than you're giving him credit for.
@@Juraikkenwow you really missed on this oe...lol! Doesn't seem you know anything about either "model". The globe model claims the earth spins on its axis while circling the sun while spinning within the galaxy as the galaxy travels through the expanding universe. That's movement, my dear, lots of movement.
@@queserasera1540 //wow you really missed on this oe...lol! Doesn't seem you know anything about either "model".// Less mockery, more teaching. Thank you! //The globe model claims the earth spins on its axis while circling the sun while spinning within the galaxy as the galaxy travels through the expanding universe. // You know what is also called "Stationary" ? when things DO NOT CHANGE. The path of the earth around the sun DOES NOT CHANGE, the path is STATIONARY. The path of the Sun circling around doesn't change it's STATIONARY, which is opposite of FLUCTUATING. //That's movement, my dear, lots of movement.// The movement it did 150 years ago is the same as today. That, my dear, is STATIONARY.
Studying the scriptures IS investigation. Acts 17:11 “Now these were more noble-minded than those in Thessalonica, for they received the word with great eagerness, examining the Scriptures daily to see whether these things were so.” We are ENCOURAGED to study and investigate.
Anyone with a brain (sadly not many flerfers) would have to logically make a 24 hour Antarctica sun fit into a model which is impossible without inventing magic
I was a Glober until I did many years of looking into it. And after all that here’s what I believe now. I’m 100% convinced that the world is not flying through space Flat or round There seems to be a lot more evidence to me that the world is flat I find some things make sense with the flat model and some things makes sense with the round earth model and the opposite two somethings don’t make sense with both models I’m currently at about 75/80% for flat and about 20% round. So I’m not really convinced 100% either way. When I was strictly a glober I just believed whatever they told me. Which is the only thing wrong. People should never just believe what they’re told. Governments lie all the time people lie, or parents lie. You gotta do your own research. Otherwise you’re just sheep.
I'm not sure what evidence you're talking about, but would this experiment, if these people record the sun moving in a circular path around the sky with a midnight sun, not prove to you definitively that the globe model is more correct?
Let's ask NASA to turn its telescopes in space and photograph the Earth, trillions of dollars spent yet no live view or photo of the whole earth daily , why ? Not saying the earth is flat or not just makes sense to have a perspective of the whole earth with that kind of $$$$ spent
They don’t believe NASA. it’s a criminal enterprise to deceive the world it’s round and they actually went to the moon. Why they’d lie I don’t know because I just don’t see a purpose.
You wouldn't need a telescope. We use cameras in *live streaming* weather satellites... that aren't even NASA's... pointing at the earth all day every day.
NASA Publication 1207 - August 1988 page 30 The design and operation of a jet or airplane is derived and defined on a set of linearized system matrices for a rigid aircraft of constant mass, flying in a stationary atmosphere over a flat, nonrotating earth. If the earth is a spinning globe (oblate speroid) in the infinite vacuum of space. Then why does NASA in their Reference Publication 1207 - August 1988 page 30, refer to a "stationary atmosphere over a flat, non-rotating earth"?
Has anybody ever been able to move the earth? No. That's the implication in the Bible. Only God can move the earth, sphere of flat. The earth is spinning, but not relative to us. The earth also doesn't have 4 pillars. That's symbolic. It's stable, just as our faith in God should be.
The earth 🌎 is round and the true word of GOD doesn't say anything about it being flat and it is not flat I am a born again Christian saved and baptized in THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST THE LORD ALMIGHTY OLD KING JAMES 1611 1769 IS THE TRUE PERFECT WORD OF GOD and I have decernment from THE HOLY GHOST and the earth 🌎 is round not flat bearing false witness is a 10 commandment and it is not pleasing to GOD ur a 🤥 plain and simple 😊quit spreading lies 🤥 the earth 🌎 is round
We sure are! Followers of Jesus 'til The End, and then BEYOND it! So be careful who you fire all those arrows at. The Earth IS "flat", that is, it's DEFINITELY NOT a spinning ball as we are presented in the current heliocentric theory. You don't have to take i the trees across the MY word for it though; take THE Word's word instead. I think there are over 300 Bible verses that mention the shape of the Earth, and not a single one of them is remotely pointing towards a spinning ball. I could be mistaken about the 300 # bc it's been a while since I was totally in the weeds on this, but there's definitely over a hundred. We are told it's foundation is firm and immovable, that the Lord stretched the firmament out like a tent and will one day roll it up like a scroll. There are verses that talk about the sun following its orbit. All kinds of stuff. You don't have to like that but if you don't believe what the Bible says then take it up with The Most High. The closest verse that globetards can find their model is the one in Job where it says the Earth is the Lord's foot stole and that he sits above The circle of the Earth. BTW we know that Job was describing "a circle", and not wasn't using the term to describe "a ball" because he actually uses the word for ball just three verses later. The cognitive dissonance is strong and hard to push through on most globers, but if you are TRULY seeking THE TRUTH then I HIGHLY recommend that you watch "200 proofs with the Earth is not a spinning ball" by Eric dubay. Even if for no other reason then to understand what we believe so that you can better PROVE US WRONG! In fact that's where ALMOST EVERY "flat earther" started out. Believing THE SAME lies as you! Ask the holy Spirit to GUIDE YOU, and research flat Earth FOR YOURSELF WHILE YOU STILL CAN!
@@StormW16 the truth is those Bible believers you are speaking of have no understanding of the Bible, God said he stamped out the earth as clay, a stamp is flat, Revelation God again confirmed it by calling it the breadth of the earth, breadth is the translation of the Greek word Platos, which is plate.....definition of plate is a round flat vessel
@@StormW16 just because you believe in something don't mean you understand it, you are a prime example. You believe the earth is round, but yet you have no understanding 😞
Lost a lot of credibility with this one. Regardless of which Cosmology one believes, it's objectively incorrect to suggest a philosophical argument about a light in the sky is actually a *scientific experiment* that even possibly could "prove" whether Earth's surface curves. Please do better. You have a platform with influence and the Bible tells us those given such privileges will be held to higher standards on judgment day. God is patience but not infinitely so. There comes a point where justice overrides patience. Whether a 24 hr Antarctic sun is observed has no logical bearing on the scientifically verified fact that Earth's surface doesn't curve. The most it could possibly do is disprove a particular model of the Metaphysics of the lights in the sky. The following are two completely distinct, separate debates: A) the scientific debate of whether Earth's surface curves, and B) the philosophical debate of the model of the lights in the sky You can't prove A with B. It is logically impossible and a category error fallacy.
If Antarctica isn't encircling us (and it obviously isn't and this will be disproven irrefutably with the final experiment) then how can earth be flat? The only way flat earth is possible is if Antarctica is going around us rather than just being the continent that makes the south pole. What is your model if Antarctica isn't encircling us? How do you understand that TFE isn't going to completely destroy flat earth?
@joeldriver-sp2rg It has been directly scientifically verified that Earth's surface doesn't curve in every way imaginable at this point. That directly scientifically verified fact will remain, regardless of how many questions you ask about how X and Y would work on a Flat Earth. In fact, trying to prove the globe by asking questions, implying you can't imagine how X or Y could work on a flat Earth, is a textbook appeal to incredulity fallacy every time. It's an invalid argument for the globe. Just because you can't imagine or understand how X or Y would work on a flat Earth doesn't mean it follows that Earth's surface curves. A lack of ability to imagine how X or Y works doesn't prove anything about anything.
@@lightbeforethetunnelI'm guessing you will never, ever provide the scientific verification of no curvature. Meanwhile, there will continue to be zero positive evidence for flerf.
Well Said brother or sister Well said! This is 'No' scientific experiment at all, it's just observation of Yah's lights in the sky and Not an experiment of what we are observing at all'
Yes brother : High Mountain being the clue here like Antarctica, and in my opinion at certain places in Antarctica at certain times of the year Antarctica will reveal to us the Sun on it's moving circuit in full right around the earth because of the place, time, Hight & the clear clean crystal air conditions that will bring the moving away Sun back into view through a massive lensing effect due to the clean crystal atmosphere up on the high plans of Antarctica'
Go to the highest mountain and see if you can all the world's kingdoms. Good luck. But the devil is a supernatural angel and can probably show what he likes by supernatural power. Physics are not required.
Great scripture. So is the Return of the Son. Every eye will see him on that day when he returns....... Also. The stars will fall from heaven to the earth and the heavens will roll back like a scroll. There are these and well over 50 scriptures that explain the scriptural earth. No doubt, it is flat. Flat Earth Dave shows many scientific proofs as well. So did Rob Skiba. There is no earth curvature in experiments. Pastor Odell shows Military, CIA, NASA, documents that they know the earth is a flat plane.....
@@jockyoung4491 it shouldn’t take any effort is the point DA. Stupid people think like you intelligent people wonder why all the effort to hide it if it’s not true
Google Brandolini's law. Its a classic example. It takes an order of magnitude more effort to disprove a statement than the effort necessary to make it.
It is said that, in a very flat part of South Africa, the local church council was debating the shape of the earth. After weighing all the evidence available to them at the time, they came to the conclusion that they did not know wether the earth was round or flat , but that it was definitely flat were they were!
😂 When was this? There is such a place in South Africa, it's called Umhlabuyalingana which translates to "the land is even". I can't believe I'm here watching this video and that's because I've just met a very first flat earther in my life and I can't believe we are debating about this. 🤦🏾♀️
@@nondumisomazibuko335 It is absolutely astounding in today's day and age that a large group of people still blindly believe a book written thousands of years by men that wiped their buts with communal brushes, over the mountains of scientific evidence that has been accumulated up to today. We have images of the earth taken every 10 minutes by satellites that are automatically dismissed because "mu bible says".. It's very disappointing..
@@nondumisomazibuko335 Crazy, I'm a Christian here in East London, EC and I've been looking at this stuff in recent years too and honestly I'm not sure anymore, I wish we had a satellite that would show us LIVE what the Earth really looks like, especially bellow the Earth
I remember being a young lad around eight years old hearing the scripture “and every eye will see him” I thought to myself, how will every eye see him on a globe earth? Now I read scripture like, the earth is fixed on pillars and immovable and it’s says the sun, moon and stars revolve around earth in the firmament, in no way that can mean that we’re spinning at 1000mph around the sun through infinite galaxies at half a million miles an hour, it’s unbiblical and ludicrous, 3 years flat earther now, they’re hiding God, evolution can only exist with the globe model, ask for Heavenly wisdom for God to remove the veil, this is the great delusion spoken of in the Bible where even the very elect will be deceived, praise God it’s not a salvation issue but so many are coming to Christ only after they study this subject and realise we are all there is out there, created for a purpose, extremely important to our creator Jesus, no other planets with other life forms, no aliens, Jesus is King. 🙏
A lot of flat-earthers know that they're wrong. They're either trolling or trying to make money off of lying to people. There are some people who actually think it's flat.
Unfortunately, it's not. What's worse is it's gaining traction. Don't think of the movement as people who genuinely believe in it. What drives them 80% of the time is their desire to go against the satanic powers of the world. That's it. The subject matter can be anything, it just so happens to be the shape of the earth. The entire point of the movement is to "Expose" the satanic influence of the world. That's it. Regardless of how illogical and untrue the flat earth model or theory is.
we see way to far for it to be a ball. It's 2025 and there is zero evidence that the sun will rise SE, north at noon and set SW, for anyone ever. There is zero evidence that the sun will appear to rise due east, overhead at noon and set due west for someone at the equator, on an equinox. Both of those observations must happen for the globe to be true, their timing is predictable, if you are in the southern hemisphere, this would be extremely easy to show. None of the flatters or globers, supposedly south of the equator, will show evidence one way or the other. for a lot of people north of the equator, you can watch the sun rise/set north of due east/west on the equinoxes. not possible on the waterball doing a quadruple corkscrew at millions of mph
The concept of “space” itself is inherently flawed. I would argue that man has never been to space. That is my belief., if he has gone to space, why the need to “fake” floating people in a space station while a glass of water sits on a table IN THE SAME SCENE totally affected by normal gravity. Why does NASA need blue screens and circus harnesses to film these “Astro-NOTS”? There is just way more evidence AND credibility of flat earth than for a spinning ball. No, I do not believe ANYTHING that NASA says.
Ending the flat earth debate? 1) Venus - it should never be seen at night on a solar system model.... Due to it being "closer to the sun", therefore its "claimed" circuit would make it impossible to be seen at night. Do a diagram - you will quickly see! 2) Every 6 months on a "solar system model", the whole entire night time side of earth should see an entirely different set of stars, as the earth is facing the opposite side of the universe.... Again we don't see that! In reality, We see the same set of stars on earth, just at different locations 6 months later, based on viewer observation and the viewers latitude at different times of the year- again draw a diagram to ascertain this. It is obvious. 3) The whole deception around stars and their "claimed" distances and properties and sizes. Do an investigation into that arras to ascertain how they manufacture these "claims".... ...From Huble-Lamtres law, to astro-spectroscopy. It is all hot air - Nothing ever verified or confirmed, from distances, to sizes, to compositiom regarding the stars. It is all based on guess work! Look into it - I recommend "deceived by the stars", by Dean Odle EU, availble on UA-cam, for further research regarding the stars. The three above points are very basic flaws that can be ascertained simply with thinking. There are many, many other flaws that could be sighted- but simple chains on the mind broken first. God bless brothers and sisters. And thanks for all your research on evolution and creation science over decades now. God bless you richly. Keep fighting the good fight.
What i find interesting is Nicolaus Copernic greatest regret before he died was being talked into saying everything revolved around sun by catholic church
I don't have to known NASA even exists. There are multiple mathematical and science problems with the flat earth model. I am a Christian and there is no harm in believing the earth is a sphere. People are not drawn from God by NASA...they are drawn away by their sin.
@@billkeithchannelIt was only 5 months ago that you were telling us nobody could go south of 60 degrees and that laser wielding penguins would blast us if we went near the "ice wall". Now, in two days time, 9 civilians are going to fly over the ice wall amd land on Antarctica at Union Glacier. So everything you, and all your fellow flat earthers, already told us about Antarctica is being debunked in real time. If you got that wrong, what else did you get wrong? Watch the space.
@@michaelkraemer8965 True, it also wouldn’t be a “final” experiment if it was one. We cannot base our entire understanding of reality off of a few guys going to Antarctica to see if the sun stays up all night.
Weird, I've met plenty of globers that can explain the globe model without issue. Flat earthers can't explain either model. Care to name a flerf that has even a rudimentary understanding of the globe model? Bonus points if they can define the flat earth model while you're at it.
@ I can’t tell what you mean? Are you saying makes it sound like there is an alternative as in the earth is flat and there is no globe? Or it’s a globe and not flat? 🤷🏻♂️
Could you explain how the flat earth model could possibly predict type, date, and location of eclipses well in advance; meteor showers; position, movement, and brightness of other planets; sunset and sunrise times; and the existence of a 24-hour sun in Antarctica (which will be broadcasted through this experiment shortly)? Any flat earther who can explain both models with ease would have to be able to explain all of that stuff, because the fact that those things are accurately predicted with the globe model but not with the flat earth model should matter to anyone making a claim about the shape of our world. There are plenty more questions I have that a flat earther who understands both models should be able to answer, but I didn't want to inundate you with too many of them at once. Feel free to ask once you've answered the above ones if you'd like more.
Thanks for mentioning at least 3 new fe channels to check out 😂 doing the LORD's work. Also, globers always say it's the fe's who are condescending and rigid in their beliefs, but the tone of this video is mocking. Proclaiming themselves wise, they became fools...
@kathyh.1720 that's an interesting choice of words you used... i used observation and critical thinking. If you mean what about the VIDEO was mocking, i would say the dismissive laughter and the way they described fe's.
@@queserasera1540 Answers NOT in Genesis. They jumped the shark in 2017. And technically earlier when Ken Ham did a terrible job in his debate with that Mechanical Engineer turned actor Bill Lye with the Bow Tie.
_Answers in Genesis,_ you did a great job with this interview, and your web page about the globe Earth is quite well done. Now all you need to do is examine the evidence for an old Earth and evolution with the same open mind, and you'll be more or less in agreement with the real world.
This experiment is privatized and they would never allow for free humans to freely explore this place called Antarctica. A 24 hour sun would be interesting but it doesn’t disprove or prove a globe and a flat earth.
LOL You can't be serious. You're seriously using the whole "people can't explore Antarctica" when a group of people are literally going there now? Take the L man. How exactly can earth be flat if Antarctica is proven not to be encircling us (which the 24 hour sun there obviously will do)? What is your model if it's not encircling us?
That’s not true. Anyone can explore Antarctica unimpeded. You just need to tell the emergency services where you are going in case something goes wrong
I always love how people’s curiosity leads them into amazing research/experiments! I admire men and women who endeavor in these ventures! But what I love most is how each and every single time, God’s existence is unequivocally confirmed and the Bible is proven right! Not that The Creator of everything “needs “ our confirmation or approval. He’s probably amused by our never ending struggles to search for a truth that has always existed in plain sight because of our stubborn refusal to just trust and obey. Pray for peace, discernment and safety for everyone involved in adventure! ✝️😊
The Bible clearly contradicts Globe Earth model. Also even if there was a 24 hour sun in Antarctica that still does not prove that the Earth is a spinning ball.
The holow bible IS NOT a science text bock. It is so filled with contradictions and messed up with stories and myths from other religions and myths from all over Middle East, it cannot really be a book to base a religion on.
I will be participating in the Final Experiment by photographing sun spots during the time they are in Antarctica. I can't wait for this event! Thanks for all your effort and generosity Will!
It's 2025 and there is zero evidence that the sun will rise SE, north at noon and set SW, for anyone ever. There is zero evidence that the sun will appear to rise due east, overhead at noon and set due west for someone at the equator, on an equinox. Both of those observations must happen for the globe to be true, their timing is predictable, if you are in the southern hemisphere, this would be extremely easy to show. None of the flatters or globers, supposedly south of the equator, will show evidence of their claims. for a lot of people north of the equator, you can watch the sun rise/set north of due east/west on the equinoxes. not possible on the waterball doing a quadruple corkscrew at millions of mph
Will Duffy is not generous. He is a grifter who used to make videos promoting taking loans against life insurance as a shady way to make money. He reads a script (literally) and is likely an asset for disinfo gatekeeper programs.
@QuixoteX The reason is simple: The internet. With the internet a very small group of people can appear to be larger than they really are. Example: there's currently 8 billion (8,000,000,000) people on earth. ...If only half of those 8 billion people (4 billion) have internet connections ...and only .0001% of those people believe in an idea, ...that would give you 4000 people who agree with the idea. ...If only 3% of those 4,000 people were actively campaigning for the idea ...that would give you 120 peope actively trying to convince you that their idea is right, while the rest of them just nod and agree. Now those 120 people start channels on UA-cam, or other platforms. With that many channels supporting the idea it's easy to be fooled into thinking that the idea has more support than it actually does. The more people who believe the idea the faster the idea gains acceptance. One of the more insidious ideas that has gained traction that way is the transgender movement. Transgenderism originally comprised an extremely small percentage of the population, but using the example I stated above they have have made themselves appear to have more people than they really do. Unlike transgenderism convincing people of a flat earth doesn't destroy people's lives before they're old enough to understand what life is.
@QuixoteX The reason is simple: The internet. With the internet a very small group of people can appear to be larger than they really are. Example: there's currently 8 billion (8,000,000,000) people on earth. ...If only half of those 8 billion people (4 billion) have internet connections ...and only .0001% of those people believe in an idea, ...that would give you 4000 people who agree with the idea. ...If only 3% of those 4,000 people were actively campaigning for the idea
Now those 120 people start channels on UA-cam, or other platforms. With that many channels supporting the idea it's easy to be fooled into thinking that the idea has more support than it actually does. The more people who believe the idea the faster the idea gains acceptance.
What about the force of "gravity" It would take to hold the Volume of water in the deep oceans on a spinning ball? We wouldn't be able to lift our foot off the ground. Water in a glass is level.
@@billcook4768 The alleged "gravity" is a dual hypothesis (not a theory or law) of 1st "mass attracting mass", and when this fails ALL experimemtation (cavendish carney contraption is not an experiment) then "gravity" is called "bending space-time" which has no proof of existance. You really should learn about the things you're trying to defend, because you literally don't know them.
@@jaxonb14Surface tension exists in smaller amounts of water which form curved drops. The point is that ALL large bodies of water at rest lay flat and level with no convexity, and the globe REQUIRES it to be curved at h=r*(1-cos a), and this is never observed. The perfectly symetrical reflections on still water also prove that it has no convexity.
Fallacy number one: "The sun setting on the flat earth is due to perspective - is not a good argument." It is a completely genuine argument. As it moves away, it becomes smaller and disappears into the thickness of the atmos which gives it the appearance of setting. Fallacy number two: " Flat earthers don't believe in gravity...they just throw that out." No, we do not simply throw it out. We actually explain what "gravity" is. Everything has an electric-static potential, along with buoyancy and density, makes things go up and down. Where is this gravity when helium balloons go soaring up to the stratosphere? I could go on and on with your endless amount of fallacies, but I think you get the point. Einstein said it best: Condemnation without investigation is the pinnacle of ignorance.
"It becomes smaller" - An outrageous lie no flerf has ever been able to capture on video Learn how perspective works. Elementary school children understand it better than flerfs do
Right, except the Sun doesn't get smaller as the afternoon draws on. It should also get substantially dimmer. It doesn't. No, a lot of flerfs genuinely just throw out gravity and don't bother replacing it. Electrically neutral items would float. Also, Faraday cages would become anti gravity cages. Gravity is pulling the air down around the balloon which in turn pushes the balloon up. It's the exact same principle that causes a child rises into the air when an adult hops on the other end of a seesaw. Einstein was spot on.
Except it doesnt get smaller. You can prove this yourself with a camera and a solar filter. It stays the same size all day until it disappears BEHIND the horizon.
@@digitalwilderness1758Explain how the stars rotate above us without the earth moving. Then explain why and how they're moving faster than the speed of light.
@@digitalwilderness1758 To be fair, all movement is relative. The Earth isn't orbiting the sun, so much as the Earth is actually orbiting the changing center point of gravitational influence between all bodies. The sun just has the most dramatic influence over the Earths orbit, but that isn't to say that the other planets don't also exert their influence onto the orbit of the Earth, or that the Earth also influences this point, even slightly. But regardless, we do know beyond a shadow of a doubt that the Earth is in motion relative to the rest of the universe
God says the earth shall not be moved so God made it move through space in a corkscrewing motion at incomprehensible speeds. That makes so much sense. 😂😂
The Bible doesn't give you a universe. The Stars, for example, in Judges 5:20 The stars in their courses fought against Sisera. Light in the firmament doesn't mean Earth is a globe. Light was created before the sun. Sun was created on the fourth day. This destroys your universal belief.
That light (before the sun is made) is most likely the electromagnetic spectrum. In the beginning, we have time; God created created the heavens, so there's space, and the earth, which is matter, and then there's light, the electromagnetic spectrum. So there's time, space, matter, and light (we just use a different word for that in today's age, but it is light).
@kathyh.1720 That's a big NO. The Scriptures were very clear the evening and morning. This is the problem with these false preachers. You can not add or take away from scripture. Facts
@@kathyh.1720 Your name for the Creator is different too. The Big Bang? That's very disrespectful if you ask me. And you can't see that's the devil naming Him that? Really?
Genuine answer: because they are so very far away from us, and also because the nearby ones are moving in more or less the same direction we are, moving around our Galaxy. Also, they don't look precisely the same every night. If you're an astronomer, you will know how much constellations change over time- much too slowly for anyone to see a change over their lifetime with the naked eye, but observable nonetheless.
Because earth is stationary but the lights in the firmament are moving. Book of Enoch - section 1 chapter 2 "Observe ye everything that takes place in the heaven, how they do not change their orbits, and the luminaries which are in the heaven, how they all rise and set in order each in its season, and transgress not against their appointed order."
@@river_eagle Enoch was a good enough observer for his time. But now, we have telescopes. Things in the heavens do change their orbits, whether you like it or not.
This will settle nothing. Making an observation in the sky does not prove the shape of the earth. If this does anything, it tells us a particular model might not work the way some might believe.
And I'm sure you can point us to all the comments you made over the years under the videos of Eric Dubay, Dave Weiss, Austin Witsit, Jeran, Nathan Oakley, Flatzoid, etc. when they repeatedly said the 24 hour sun in Antarctica did falsify the FE. Just like all you flerfs trying to ignore the fact that every one of you were adamant for years that "they" wouldn't allow anyone beyond the 60th parallel due to the Antarctic Treaty. Then TFE called your bluff and suddenly everyone is trying to pretend they never said it. Lame.
I checked out a bunch of flat Earth vids years ago. Never heard the smoking gun, don't subscribe to it, but there was one point that was made that was odd. People were looking through telescopes to distant sky scrapers over bodies of water and you could still see the bottom of the skyscraper. Doing the math of the curvature of the Earth that skyscraper should be out of view. The usual answer from those who debate flat Earth their answer is there is some sort of light bending occurring as well.
A group from South America did several tests: Laser light among others. I think it is called Convex Earth, this test convinced a lot of professional people who went into it with serious doubts.
Anything to get your focus off The Lord Jesus Christ and on "knowledge". Same thing with science, religion, conspiracies, Hebrew roots, etc, etc. They all focus on knowledge & how much you know. Christianity is focused on WHO you know not what you know.
Really? Then why did he inspire the early church fathers to add the old testament? Prophecies of Christ's first and second coming. Historical information that allows us to prove the basis of the bible. And Hebrew roots? Do you think the Hebrews were not the root of Christianity? The whole bible is written by Jews. Jesus was a Jew. He was sent first for the Jew, THEN for the gentile. Are you afraid of people asking questions? Does the Lord tell us not to seek out wisdom and knowledge? Does he want us to be dumb? Do you think that Christians should not go to school or learn a trade? Cause that knowledge might get our focus off Christ. Do you read and seek knowledge? Do you have a job? Such a hypocrite.
WOW your comment should have a millions thumbs up!! Spot on. The devil is the master of deception and DEFLECTION, let's focus on any and everything but the gospel of Jesus Christ. How do people get so deceived on a topic the Bible talks about wayyyy less than Jesus Christ and Him crucified!??
@AndrewFosterSheff69 That doesn't make it true... Is your faith in your knowledge or Jesus. Most flerfs have a holier than thow attitude. Puffed up with pride thinking what they know impresses God somehow. Get off that high horse of knowledge and humble yourself. We know absolutely nothing compared to God. He can make it however he pleases! It can be a ball moving through space perfectly. It can be a disk with a dome over it. Do you not think God is capable of making ball flying through space, or you don't think he would do it like that? Either way you're lifting yourself up to bring God down.
Going to Antarctica is not going to prove anything all kinds of explorers incredible researchers have been there. That's why we have all the speculation and inconclusive
@@stephenguthrie3907 Yeah and none of them claim the Earth is flat, and yes going there will prove it, it just wont prove it to flat earthers because their not after truth, they are afraid of the truth. They cant even explain little things about our world, like how stars rotate, so its a joke to even consider their model coherent
@adairjanney7109 how can it prove anything? many people have come ,and gone ,and still the speculation exists. most people hold on to personal bias because of cognitive dissonance. And from your perspective you say flat earthers but that's true for everyone. They tend to try to confirm their own beliefs rather than accepting Truth for what it is. Truth is under no obligation to conform to what someone thinks it should be. It will still be true if no one in the world believes it.just like a lie can still be a lie if everyone on Earth believes it......
What proclaims the glory of God more is walking in love. 1 Cor 13:2....If I have the gift of prophecy and can fathom all mysteries and all KNOWLEDGE, and if I have a faith that can move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing.
@PanhandleFrank Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres. 1 Cor 13:4-7 Just saying
@@ginnyboykinhoover7645 Amen, amen, and amen. All of which has nothing to do with brothers lovingly showing other brothers the truth re. God's creation. If your Christian doctor told you that you have cancer, would he not be loving you?
ººIf you can see waves crashing on the beach with a zoom lens 20/30 miles out to sea, then you already know that the Earth is flat. You just haven't connected the dots yet. If you know that we've been navigating by Fixed Star Location for over six thousand years, then you already know that the Earth is stationary. You just need to put the pieces together. If you want to see flat-earth proof then take an airplane five miles high and look out the window. The horizon will always come up to your eye level. That can't happen on a ball and it would be stupid to believe otherwise
@@talleneagle1974 You just don't get it... It was reading books and listening to others that first mislead the first graders into believing that the Earth is a spinning ball. Put down your stupid books and go outside and look around. Do you feel any motion ? No you don't. If there were a mild earthquake you would sure feel that. But somehow we never feel the Earth spinning around at over a thousand miles an hour. That's just stupid. "The Earth is at rest and it cannot be moved."
@@cynthiawashburn771 A city block is considered to be square. And airplanes that are traveling around the world always have to travel West to East or East to West. They never travel over Antarctica.
This was never a question for me until I married a flat earther. We've had many long discussions and debates over theories, "evidence", and of course the incorruptible word of God. I've become open to the idea that I could be flat. This of course weighs heavily on the possibility that most of what NASa spoon feeds the masses is false. This is easy to believe with overwhelming evidence coupled with the fact that evolution and other such things have been pushed on us as truth. Scripture is my first and main go to. The problem is, is that both round and flat earthers can take each scripture and see it from both perspectives. The earth can still be round and have "pillars". The ends of the earth can still apply to the early disciples reaching. The sun can stand still from both sides and so on and on. What I hate is the mockery and pride from both sides. Especially my fellow globers! 😥 Come off of it! Be respectful as other people work things out at their own pace and not just blindly take someone else's evidence and just gullibly believe. Either way, round or flat, God created the earth and all who are here. Get born again because Jesus is real, he is who he says he is and is coming back soon! Btw, there is plenty of evidence to prove this!
No one needs NASA to know Earth is spherical. Evolution is a fair supported by an overwhelming amount of evidence. Come back with the accurate FE map then maybe we'll start taking you seriously.
Considering the Bible itself was written down by and revised by mankind, And all evidence points to spherical. Its time for your partner to wake up, it is spherical.
I'm blown away as to how the vast majority of commenters here are FE. It makes me very happy. What makes me sad is that an apologetic organization chooses to deny God's Word and go with the whirled view. I lost all trust in AIG 7 years ago as soon as I realized that they deny Biblical cosmology.
Maybe because the entire Christian community is sane enough to realise the Bible is not a science book and is irrelevant to the shape of the Earth. Or provide the accurate FE map.
It should make anyone that has more than two brain cells rather sad, it is the dumbing down of humanity being displayed here. Nothing more. The Bible was written down by, and revised by mankind. All actual real world evidence points to spherical. Wake up
As a flat earther, I'm surprised alot of them turned this opportunity down, especially knowing all expenses are payed for. I would grab it in a heartbeat. it's like if your sure your right, what are you afraid of? Take me, please.
You guys are so deceptive showing these pancake floating in space cartoons. If there was a 24h in Antarctica there would be tourism like there is for the Arctic. I called the airline that takes people to Antarctica for tourism asking about the 24h sun and they said no, it doesn't happen. Just the penguins and stuff.
False. Thanks for wasting your time and other people's however. Countless people have witnessed the 24 hour Antarctic sun. Flerfs witnessing it themselves is the only difference. Gotta lie to flerf. Wake TF Up
@elo.musica That is a flat out lie. The company TFE is using, Antarctic Logistics & Expeditions (ALE) specifically requires customers to bring gear to deal with the 24 hour sun. So do the other Antarctic expedition companies - Quark, Aurora Expeditions, Polar Latitudes, Viking, Antarctica Travels, Swoop, Poseidon Expeditions. Which brings us to the fact that 10's of thousands of tourists do visit Antarctica every year - hence the numerous companies offering travel packages there.
I really wish I could go with y'all. I'm really good at keeping peace between strangers. Raised in the fine state of GA, I'm full of real southern hospitality. I hope everyone is cordial and kind to one another.
@@adairjanney7109 🤦♂️ when you’re looking south the stars will appear to rotate one way and north they rotate the other. They’re still rotating the same direction however you skin the cat. It’s literally a body orientation question.are you facing north or south Stand under a fan in the middle of a blade. From the middle face “north” the center and look at the blade. It should be moving right to left directly above you. If you turn around “due south” you’ll simply see that now the blade or “stars” move left to right. Really simple Then
The salt flat in Bolivia when it's covered by a few inches of rain water makes an 80 by 100 mile perfectly flat mirror. That is the perfect FE proof and nothing else is really needed. The earth can not be spherical and water make a perfect flat mirror of that size. Look up pictures to see what I'm talking about.
100% There are hundreds of video of distance tests where we should see certain objects yet we can. So either the Earth is much much larger than we are told or the math is wrong. I'm still not settled on what I truly believe but it's a very interesting subject.
Another debunked claim, just like every other flerf claim. When you have a model of flerf that doesn't debunk itself, do provide it. All evidence points to spherical, Wake Up
ººNo one ever falls off, "the edge" because the material realm or physical plane of existence is most likely infinite. And not to mention...You can't fall up a two hundred foot ice wall.
Finite things, such as anything that can be measured or counted, cannot be infinite. The material realm cannot be infinite. You yourself have mentioned a two hundred foot ice wall. That, then, is finite. It's measurable. It's also material. The earth--whether flat or global/spherical--cannot be infinite because it can be measured. Therefore, it's conceivably possible to fall off the edge of a flat earth. And people can climb up ice walls, so with the right preparation, skills, and equipment, it would be possible to climb or otherwise ascend a 200-foot ice wall. And what's on the other side of that wall? We'll have to ask the people who climb it, unless they fall off and are forever lost in space.
There is no edge as such, we are surrounded by the firmament, so even if you got to the "edge", you'd not be able to break past it. Look into Operation FISHBOWL (which resulted directly from Admiral Byrd finding said edge / firmament). Operation FISHBOWL was part of a larger Project called DOMINIC (which means "of the Lord"). Operation "Fishbowl of the Lord", the powers that be KNOW. You are welcome.
Evolution is a theory of randomness, not progress toward a goal. There is no reason to expect or think that any evolutionary changes would make anything "better". By the way, the word "better" has no meaning without knowing what "good" is and how that good could be somehow better. Is more intelligence better? Why? Is a world of robots better? Why? What would make one thing better than anything? There must be some standard of "goodness" against which things can be compared, and that which conforms closer to that standard is better than something that is less like that standard.
@ Might want to pick up some standard biology textbooks and reconsider what you think evolution is per the actual evolutionists themselves! They clearly teach simple to complex and “survival of the fittest” which is in their minds akin to being “better”; although I do agree on your references to a “good” based standard. And to be clear, darwinian evolution as has been taught for a long time now is absolutely and completely false. Totally void of a single piece of empirical evidence. Life did not and cannot start on its own. Biogenesis is ridiculous and this is why evolutionists disregard it and call it another discipline that doesn’t concern them. 😂😂😂. My main point of course was that the flat earth nonsense is easily proven to be false by a 5 year old with a flashlight and a piete of cardboard. This shows that adherents to the proven absurdity of such an idea cannot be getting more intelligent over time. We are actually “devolving.”
that will not change the mind of anyone - flatearthers are so captivated in their ideology that they will not accept any proof. It’s a form of extrem delusion - we can pray for them that Jesus may give them the freedom to acknowledge truth, but without that we will not be able to convince them
@briancash1405 Yeah, I know, right ? Believing in the FE hoax in this day and age just because of twisting what an old book says while denying reality, science and technological progress 🤣😂
Funny how satellites are in space but when u very high up u have no signal wherever there's no poles come on think for yallselves Problem is that before we were even taught a thing from school we already decided that everything said in school is true with out the need of proof but if u were to take a test paper from 100 years ago with a 100% result and retested it today I bet u they failed
And that God created a firmament to separate the waters above the firmament from the waters below the firmament, what's the firmament in the globe model? it doesn't make any sense
@@yaboikindabored9831 The globe has already been debunked, a few hours ago they were live streaming and the sun had set but it was still relatively light, while it was noon in Australia, which is supposed to be on the other side of the globe
A number of Globists have said they will publicly acknowledge that the Earth is flat. However many Flat Earthers, ones who refused an invitation to go, say it will mean nothing despite saying a 24 hour sun in Antarctica is impossible on a flat earth. Do we see they are dishonest. Many of them make their living with channels appealing to ignorant flat earthers, so it is not surprising that these grifters reject the experiment.
I have the same question. Why the huge conflict over something like this? It's as though this issue takes precedence over the main goal of God's Word,which teaches worship God and come back to Him through what Christ did. This experiment is truly interesting and I'm not against it, but really, WHY are Christians becoming so fixated on the shape of the earth? Is this not a red flag?
Hey, I've just decided to become a "Flat Earther". I'm willing to have an all-expense paid trip to Antarctica for you to prove me wrong. When are we leaving?
You are completely wrong again. The Bible teaches a flat earth from cover to cover. I again offer to send you a detailed Bible study on the issue. So far no one wants to read it. If you were to read it then you would see that God created a big beautiful flat earth. I challenge you to read it. Tell me where to send it!
The North Star/Southern Cross being visible only in one or the other hemisphere is one of the best proofs for globe Earth. going to Antarctica would be huge, but u have to prove that you are actually in Antarctica, not just somewhere you assume and call Antarctica.
This is AWESOME! l've waited for something like this to happen for YEARS! l'm a person who supports the globe model, and always felt that the Christian ''flat earthers'' undermined the faith in a way by reading the bible and come to such an inaccuracy. So GLAD the time has come. _THANK YOU to Will Duffy_ for putting this together! l can tell that it was NOT easy. lts strange that in a time like this, with all the information we have access to, that people will still believe the earth is flat.
I find it weird that they can see that the sun is round and that the moon is round. And with the telescopes we can see that other planets and stars are round. But earth is the ONLY one that is flat? Or is everything flat and flipping around? Or do they also believe that the sun rotates the earth?
@@DarthPoyner You'd have to GO THERE to see if the planets were globes or not. You do not know. You only know they're round and you see only the circles. You don't know if they are flat, if they are globes or even if they are just lights in the sky.
@@AlmondScented Firstly, we've been to the planets, either flypasts, orbiters or robotic landers &, of course, manned moon missions. We can observe them through telescopes and see phases of the inferior planets and see the rotation of the superior planets. We can see the moons of those that have them, orbit their planets. We can examine their spectra and see what their atmospheres are made of.
I really appreciate this research expedition. However watching the mocking looks on your faces is so disrespectful and disheartening to see and it ruins the spirit of good research. I am looking forward to seeing the scientific observational results. Thank you for doing this.
Agree. Why do they want us to accept Catholicism as non-heretical sect? Why do we have an infiltration in the church body teaching tolerance of sin (lgbt)? And yet they act with such fervor and tenacity to alienate a small sect of flat earth Christians? This is disingenuous from the get go.
@@MomofukudoodoowinduIf we're being honest, only LG is a sin according to the bible. But of course Christians are rarely honest when it comes to their beliefs
Using the Global model sail 180 deg. around Antarctica. Globe Earthers will remain in the southern hemisphere. Brazil, Africa, Australia, and New Zealand will remain above. Obviously. Flat Earthers will have Northern hemisphere continents below them. Canada, Russia, Green Land, etc. They'd be in the Arctic, essentially.
Earth going 66,600 mph. Earth curves at a rate of .6666 ft per mile 66.6 feet per 10 miles 6,666 feet for 100 miles Can you prove it since you live here?math is easy! If you do the math you will know.
How can we prove youll actually be in antartica? Whom did you send the petition to? Meaning who gave permission and what location are you approved to be?
They'll see nonstop sun for the entire five days that they are there. That's sufficient to destroy flat earth, and it doesn't matter where they are. As long as you believe they are on planet earth, that's sufficient
Something is off here. The Government doesn't let just anybody go freely to Antarctica and they sure don't want the truth getting out there. If its these guys promoting this then we already know their answer.
Been a flat earther since 2015. However, my view has changed a little. I truly believe, we don't live on a spinning globe. So my true stance, it's not a spinning globe, so an opinion may be flat or something similar. Don't truly know. Bottom line, i want the truth, whatever that is. I love the fact that this expedition is taking place. Not too sure about the title, as an experiment has several layers that need to be factored in. The sun and moon are fascinating, with question mark about their role in the sky, etc. I would like to see an online review of all attendees, as i think there will be a lot to discuss. It's such a shame that infighting has taken place, and now some backtracking too. This is an amazing and unique opportunity to learn a tonne more than we know currently. To have both factions and an openess to carry several cross checks in addition to the basuc viewing part just adds incredible value. The next week is exciting and i looked forward to what we learn. It is 100% definitive either way? I am not sure, but i truly hope so.
This should be titled Part One of the Final Experiment. I wonder if this has more to do with a delusion rather than a lack if information. Many people have seen the truth and continue to deny it because they love the lie. The flat earth model has become the basis for some to have a new religion, requiring others to confirm it to prove their salvation is true. Belief in Jesus is the only requirement for salvation. Don't be deceived.
"Answers in Genisis". Maybe offer up some explanations for what is stated in Genisis in this regard. This channel tends to mock fe folks and dance around biblical explanations.
They don't care about the truth and will claim that scripture is allegory and peotic metaphor that only they know the cprrect interpretation for. They are liars and frauds.
Any one who wants to really look at the facts. NASA doesn't have one real photograph of Earth, just saying why the hell not? If we landed drones on Mars, but not on real picture of the Earth?
They do, actually. All they have are real photographs. I don't know how flerfs lack the ability to use their fingers to research the difference between a composite photo and a computer generated photo.
There is literally tens of thousands of pictures of Earth from space from dozens of different space agencies, many taken way before the advent of any editing software. For each of them provide your evidence for fakery or claim dismissed. Also come back with the accurate FE map. Is your goal to embarass yourself in public by showing that you're just mindlessly parroting what your FE gurus fed you ?
What’s sad to me is laughing at fellow Christians. Why the need to prove you’re right? We will all know the truth of all things one day very soon. I must wonder, though, if we will be asked to give account for whether proving yourself right brought others closer to Christ or pushed them further away. That’s ultimately all that really matters.
@@ronm6349Indeed it does, and heliocentrism is a lie. These grifters are pretend "christians" who don't know their own religion or the specs of heliocentrism or the steps of the scientific method while they persue their god of money. Will Duffy is also a fraud who made videos about taking loans against life insurance as a shady way to make money before he began reading scripts for his latest scam.
I don't see your logic or reasoning there. Water and earth don't have to behave the same way. I might as well say that if water is flat, then there can be no mountains because the mountains have to be flat, so they can't exist. Doesn't make sense to me. Please explain your logic and reasoning.
@@kathyh.1720 mountains weren't mentioned. Water is flat it means earth has no rotundity to it. It is a topographical plane covered by a dome which is why we can even breathe this pressurised environment
This verse is speaking of 4 directions, not literal corners. Are you quoting a poem or historical narrative? It makes a difference. Or do you believe When Jesus says "I am the gate" that he means he's a literal gate on hinges? context matters
The same can be asked of a flat disc, of course, unless it's rectangular. I believe that it's a way of saying the whole world, just as saying from the rising of the sun to the going down of the same means from the east to the west. We still use very smilar phrases, like "he's travelled to the 4 corners of the globe."
How do you get four corners on a ball? In Revelation 20:8 it says that the devil *_"shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth..."_* So the word "corner" is another word for "quarter". This means that the earth has four parts, or quarters. How do you split up a spherical earth into four quarters? If you draw one line vertically all the way around the earth, and draw another line horizontally, the point at which the two lines meet will produce a cross, and each side of that cross will be a corner that expands out to 1/4th of the earth. That's what the Bible means by "corners". It means "quarters".
The Bible is full of metaphorical language. Many flat earthers acknowledge this fact, until you start talking about the shape of the earth, then everything is suddenly literal.
@ChristCenteredEschatology yes it does like God has wings in job theirs no metaphorical language and so David is speaking metaphorical in Psalm 148:4 why it can't the waters above be the waters he separated when he separated the waters from the waters Genesis 1:6 or is that metaphorical also I'll take Gods word over NASA anytime no big bang no billions of years and so you know Jesus death wasn't metaphorical
@ Obviously not every word is metaphorical. Pointing out that Jesus’s death was not metaphorical doesn’t make every word in the Bible literal. Not only that, but it is awfully presumptuous and quite a weak argument. There is a lot of language in the Bible that should not be taken literally. For instance the point of Job 38:13 isn’t that the earth has ends. If you are going to insist on taking things in the Bible that are obviously not meant to be taken literally, then you are not taking God’s word over anything.
There over 100 times in the Bible that the earth is described. Not a single one of those descriptions by God are of a globe or of our earth moving. But just in case you still not sure he very precisely describes us stationary on foundations,Immovable. Robert Goddard in the early 1900’s went over 90,000 ft and described exactly what the Bible describes as it was pressed like wax under the seal. Which basically looks flat with upturned edges. “A dinner plate”
@@benjy288 Mountains. Plural. All those that flat earthers ignore. The thousands of photos, videos and livestreams, physics experiments, measurements, seismology, the fact we can see satellites from Earth, the apparent retrograde motion of Mars as we pass it, the coriolis effect and artillery aiming manuals accounting for it etc etc and etc. I could go on and on and on. Flerfs ignore everything or attempt to counter with more conspiracies that shows they don't even understand what they're trying to debunk.
The Bible is not silent on the shape of the Earth. The book of Job clearly states the earth takes shape like a officers pressed wax seal.
metaphor... Jesus said, I am the door, doesnt mean Jesus was made out of wood. Stop using a spiritual book to do science
Actually it doesn't, Job 38 says the earth is suspended over nothing and it (the earth) is turned like clay to the seal
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Different context. Using that as your example is very deceptive because you're using one that is a metaphor and one IS NOT.
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Also, who do you think created everything? God. The Bible is right about everything. The fact you said to stop using a spiritual book when it comes to science says literally everything I need to know about you. You don't know the truth, you definitely don't know God and you are badly stuck in this world and brainwashed. You have a lot of programming to undo before you understand the truth, and that's if it even happens.
LOL you probably don't even know what stuck in the world means and took it literal 😂
"The only real barrier to truth is the presumption that we already have it" - Chuck Missler
@@DSteez look up US Navy VX-6
I have spent my entire life as a scientist and science educator. However the more I learn and discover, the more I realise the enormity and elegance of the natural world. But more importantly I realise how little we scientists know.
Great quote
I would argue that there is "The Truth" and it's the Bible
@ this quote is meant for ppl who don’t believe the Bible.
Why do they continually use an incorrect flat earth model as a disk floating in space?
What does it look like?
Since any flat Earth model would be incorrect, what difference does it make?
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Should they just omit the space background? Would that be more accurate to what you're thinking? Or is there something else they should change?
@ I was being facetious. They are purposely using that model because it is ridiculous and will discredit the flat earth movement. There is a huge war going on between God and the adversary. Globe Earth Theory feeds the Evolution Theory. Satan wants nothing more than to pull you away from our creator.
The reason so many believe in flat is because the same persecutors that scream it is round also claim old earth and evolution
The Earth being spherical and old is a demonstrable, objective truth. The only reason why some people disagree with it is "becuz muh Bible says so"
It is only truth based on ignorance (ignore rant) it can only be proven by using massive bias and assumption.. For the reason previously mentioned the people going for the experiment must be careful the non truthers may attempt to either harm or force deception. Do not sign any NDA.
I was raised Christian, and not once was I ever led to believe by my parents, any parishioner, or any spiritual leader that the earth is young and that evolution isn't a real thing. I grew up understanding that the creation days of Genesis weren't literally ordered 24-hour periods but just different phases of the universe and the Earth being created, because our human concept of time doesn't apply to God.
God saying "let there be light" was easily understood to be the big bang and the forming of stars, planets, and solar systems. God separating water from water with a firmament and creating land was the geological processes that took billions of years and created a livable atmosphere, the oceans, and continents and led to the first instance of life, which moved forward when god created plants. God letting the land produce living creatures according to their kinds and eventually man was the process of evolution. Man having dominion over all other animals and naming them is an example of the higher intelligence that humans managed to evolve that other animals didn't.
I see no reason for Christians or other non-Christian religious people to work against society by ignoring scientific evidence because they decide to interpret the Bible as saying something that it really isn't necessarily saying. Religious people sure can believe what they want, but believing in young earth and being anti-evolution only serves the purpose of making it harder for themselves to understand our world and giving them a sense of importance in that they have answers that other people don't. John Paul II said "Science can purify religion from error and superstition; religion can purify science from idolatry and false absolutes. Each can draw the other into a wider world, a world in which both can flourish." You would think that religious people would focus less on being so certain of things like this (what is the point of faith if you already know everything?), because that's exactly what drives people away from religion when they have a question and are met with "That's what the Bible says, and that's just how it is."
While religion steers toward just knowing and being certain of something in a context like the globe and flat earth debate, the scientific process is built on the premise of not knowing something. Why do we engage in science? Because there is something we do not understand. We use what we do know to find out something we don't know, and in the process, we either learn something new that was previously unknown, or we learn that something we once thought we knew is incorrect. If there is a 24-hour sun in Antarctica in a couple days, there will be more evidence to support the globe model. If there is not a 24-hour sun, then globe earthers will know that there is something wrong with their model and will need to learn more about it. Religious people seem to have less discernment. Faith is important, but there's no reason to throw out facts in the process of having faith. Just because you decide to believe that evolution is real and the Earth is four billion years old doesn't mean you're throwing out the baby as well.
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Well since you can write your own version of the creation, i totally understand why you believe your authority is above biblical record. I believe the bible authority is above all other theories. The problem is faithless people assume things including where the real authority is.
The Earth is spherical but not millions of years old. The reason people think it's old is because that's what they've been taught in the government run schools and the propaganda wing of the left, aka fake news media. Science points to a young Earth.
Joshua commanded the sun to stop, not the world to stop spinning.
Yup he did, I’d like to hear someone explain how the solar system help up when the sun stopped though. 🤔
You realize that stopping the sun in it's orbit around Sagittarius A, and then all of the planets around the sun, and then the moon around earth is a MUCH more impressive flex right? The sun moves. If Jehova stopped it, he had to stop EVERYTHING. And then flip the switch on inertia to make it so that everyone didn't turn into red paste in the process.
That entry in the bible doesn't say the earth is flat, it says that Jehova is WAY MORE POWERFUL than you're giving him credit for.
Yes Sir!!
Has it occurred to you that the universe spinning around the Earth does not in any way, shape or form imply that the Earth is flat?
Wow, I never thought about that.
Psalm 104:5
He sets the earth on its foundation, so that it should never be moved.
It does not move, it is in constant gravitational pull to the sun. Or does the earth fly around all over space in any direction it pleases?
Its amazing how such a simple, easy demonstration of a stationary earth is judt outright ignored by so many
@@Dekadin2 Are you stationary in the seat of your car, despite going 60 mph? You can "feel" stationary, doesn't mean that is indicative of reality.
@@Juraikkenwow you really missed on this oe...lol! Doesn't seem you know anything about either "model".
The globe model claims the earth spins on its axis while circling the sun while spinning within the galaxy as the galaxy travels through the expanding universe. That's movement, my dear, lots of movement.
@@queserasera1540 //wow you really missed on this oe...lol! Doesn't seem you know anything about either "model".//
Less mockery, more teaching. Thank you!
//The globe model claims the earth spins on its axis while circling the sun while spinning within the galaxy as the galaxy travels through the expanding universe. //
You know what is also called "Stationary" ? when things DO NOT CHANGE. The path of the earth around the sun DOES NOT CHANGE, the path is STATIONARY. The path of the Sun circling around doesn't change it's STATIONARY, which is opposite of FLUCTUATING.
//That's movement, my dear, lots of movement.//
The movement it did 150 years ago is the same as today. That, my dear, is STATIONARY.
The Truth does not fear investigation
Science IS investigation
Yet not one of the idiots will go on a plane....
@@jockyoung4491 True. But a lot of what is called “science” today is not true science.
@@jockyoung4491 True, but a lot of what is called “science” today is not true science.
Studying the scriptures IS investigation.
Acts 17:11 “Now these were more noble-minded than those in Thessalonica, for they received the word with great eagerness, examining the Scriptures daily to see whether these things were so.”
We are ENCOURAGED to study and investigate.
This will change very few people’s minds.
Yep, no matter the scientific evidence my flat earth friends will continue to believe this nonsense.
Anyone with a brain (sadly not many flerfers) would have to logically make a 24 hour Antarctica sun fit into a model which is impossible without inventing magic
It won't change my mind. International flight routes in the southern hemi prove that the Earth is definitely not a sphere.
@ I can’t tell if you’re serious.
@@fanbutton give some examples of flight paths that prove it's not a sphere
I was a Glober until I did many years of looking into it. And after all that here’s what I believe now. I’m 100% convinced that the world is not flying through space Flat or round There seems to be a lot more evidence to me that the world is flat I find some things make sense with the flat model and some things makes sense with the round earth model and the opposite two somethings don’t make sense with both models I’m currently at about 75/80% for flat and about 20% round. So I’m not really convinced 100% either way. When I was strictly a glober I just believed whatever they told me. Which is the only thing wrong. People should never just believe what they’re told. Governments lie all the time people lie, or parents lie. You gotta do your own research. Otherwise you’re just sheep.
Liar, liar, pants on fire!
Yes do your own research,' do your own research!
Holy Jesus, how could you be such an embarrassment to the human race?
Name one thing that "makes sense with the round earth model" ... one thing.
I'm not sure what evidence you're talking about, but would this experiment, if these people record the sun moving in a circular path around the sky with a midnight sun, not prove to you definitively that the globe model is more correct?
Let's ask NASA to turn its telescopes in space and photograph the Earth, trillions of dollars spent yet no live view or photo of the whole earth daily , why ? Not saying the earth is flat or not just makes sense to have a perspective of the whole earth with that kind of $$$$ spent
They don’t believe NASA. it’s a criminal enterprise to deceive the world it’s round and they actually went to the moon. Why they’d lie I don’t know because I just don’t see a purpose.
You wouldn't need a telescope. We use cameras in *live streaming* weather satellites... that aren't even NASA's... pointing at the earth all day every day.
There are already many satellites taking photos of the earth every day
Flat earthers dismiss all of them as CGI, even without proof
Satellites at Max distance is 1500km. But you need to be about 23000km for that to work
@@rjfitzy2275 NASA means to decieve
NASA Publication 1207 - August 1988 page 30 The design and operation of a jet or airplane is derived and defined on a set of
linearized system matrices for a rigid aircraft of constant mass, flying in a stationary atmosphere over a flat, nonrotating earth.
If the earth is a spinning globe (oblate speroid) in the infinite vacuum of space. Then why does NASA in their Reference Publication
1207 - August 1988 page 30, refer to a "stationary atmosphere over a flat, non-rotating earth"?
Mic drops… and crickets chirping
If there is air, why is air resistance often ignored when calculating an object falling? Checkmate air believers!
@@GaelicDrummer1 funny how none of the nastards will even try to respond to this post, no?
I'll answer your question once you show me a rigid aircraft that has constant mass as it flies.
This just in: in math and physics, you often ignore variables that have minimal impact on your calculations.
The earth has a foundation.Every thing that has a foundation does not move,mountains,
buildings,and trees have foundations.
Relative to their foundations.
Earth measurably moves. Denial of this is silly.
Has anybody ever been able to move the earth? No. That's the implication in the Bible. Only God can move the earth, sphere of flat. The earth is spinning, but not relative to us. The earth also doesn't have 4 pillars. That's symbolic. It's stable, just as our faith in God should be.
Well said!
Cars have a foundation built on wheels. What a delusional comment you made.
The god of this world has blinded the minds of the unbelievers that they should believe a lie over the truth.
What is the truth? Cause sadly most FE's are bible believers, thats sad to hear.
The earth 🌎 is round and the true word of GOD doesn't say anything about it being flat and it is not flat I am a born again Christian saved and baptized in THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST THE LORD ALMIGHTY OLD KING JAMES 1611 1769 IS THE TRUE PERFECT WORD OF GOD and I have decernment from THE HOLY GHOST and the earth 🌎 is round not flat bearing false witness is a 10 commandment and it is not pleasing to GOD ur a 🤥 plain and simple 😊quit spreading lies 🤥 the earth 🌎 is round
We sure are! Followers of Jesus 'til The End, and then BEYOND it!
So be careful who you fire all those arrows at. The Earth IS "flat", that is, it's DEFINITELY NOT a spinning ball as we are presented in the current heliocentric theory. You don't have to take i the trees across the MY word for it though; take THE Word's word instead. I think there are over 300 Bible verses that mention the shape of the Earth, and not a single one of them is remotely pointing towards a spinning ball. I could be mistaken about the 300 # bc it's been a while since I was totally in the weeds on this, but there's definitely over a hundred.
We are told it's foundation is firm and immovable, that the Lord stretched the firmament out like a tent and will one day roll it up like a scroll. There are verses that talk about the sun following its orbit. All kinds of stuff. You don't have to like that but if you don't believe what the Bible says then take it up with The Most High.
The closest verse that globetards can find their model is the one in Job where it says the Earth is the Lord's foot stole and that he sits above The circle of the Earth. BTW we know that Job was describing "a circle", and not wasn't using the term to describe "a ball" because he actually uses the word for ball just three verses later.
The cognitive dissonance is strong and hard to push through on most globers, but if you are TRULY seeking THE TRUTH then I HIGHLY recommend that you watch "200 proofs with the Earth is not a spinning ball" by Eric dubay. Even if for no other reason then to understand what we believe so that you can better PROVE US WRONG!
In fact that's where ALMOST EVERY "flat earther" started out. Believing THE SAME lies as you!
Ask the holy Spirit to GUIDE YOU, and research flat Earth FOR YOURSELF WHILE YOU STILL CAN!
@@StormW16 the truth is those Bible believers you are speaking of have no understanding of the Bible, God said he stamped out the earth as clay, a stamp is flat, Revelation God again confirmed it by calling it the breadth of the earth, breadth is the translation of the Greek word Platos, which is plate.....definition of plate is a round flat vessel
@@StormW16 just because you believe in something don't mean you understand it, you are a prime example. You believe the earth is round, but yet you have no understanding 😞
Lost a lot of credibility with this one. Regardless of which Cosmology one believes, it's objectively incorrect to suggest a philosophical argument about a light in the sky is actually a *scientific experiment* that even possibly could "prove" whether Earth's surface curves.
Please do better. You have a platform with influence and the Bible tells us those given such privileges will be held to higher standards on judgment day. God is patience but not infinitely so. There comes a point where justice overrides patience.
Whether a 24 hr Antarctic sun is observed has no logical bearing on the scientifically verified fact that Earth's surface doesn't curve.
The most it could possibly do is disprove a particular model of the Metaphysics of the lights in the sky.
The following are two completely distinct, separate debates:
A) the scientific debate of whether Earth's surface curves, and
B) the philosophical debate of the model of the lights in the sky
You can't prove A with B. It is logically impossible and a category error fallacy.
If Antarctica isn't encircling us (and it obviously isn't and this will be disproven irrefutably with the final experiment) then how can earth be flat? The only way flat earth is possible is if Antarctica is going around us rather than just being the continent that makes the south pole. What is your model if Antarctica isn't encircling us? How do you understand that TFE isn't going to completely destroy flat earth?
@joeldriver-sp2rg It has been directly scientifically verified that Earth's surface doesn't curve in every way imaginable at this point. That directly scientifically verified fact will remain, regardless of how many questions you ask about how X and Y would work on a Flat Earth.
In fact, trying to prove the globe by asking questions, implying you can't imagine how X or Y could work on a flat Earth, is a textbook appeal to incredulity fallacy every time.
It's an invalid argument for the globe.
Just because you can't imagine or understand how X or Y would work on a flat Earth doesn't mean it follows that Earth's surface curves.
A lack of ability to imagine how X or Y works doesn't prove anything about anything.
Scientifically verified fact? By who? When? Provide the link to these so-called facts. Don't tell us what you've heard.. SHOW US what you know.
@@lightbeforethetunnelI'm guessing you will never, ever provide the scientific verification of no curvature.
Meanwhile, there will continue to be zero positive evidence for flerf.
Well Said brother or sister Well said! This is 'No' scientific experiment at all, it's just observation of Yah's lights in the sky and Not an experiment of what we are observing at all'
Matthew 4:8
Again, the devil took him to a very high mountain and showed him all the kingdoms of the world and their splendor.
Yes brother : High Mountain being the clue here like Antarctica, and in my opinion at certain places in Antarctica at certain times of the year Antarctica will reveal to us the Sun on it's moving circuit in full right around the earth because of the place, time, Hight & the clear clean crystal air conditions that will bring the moving away Sun back into view through a massive lensing effect due to the clean crystal atmosphere up on the high plans of Antarctica'
Go to the highest mountain and see if you can all the world's kingdoms. Good luck.
But the devil is a supernatural angel and can probably show what he likes by supernatural power. Physics are not required.
It’s an abstraction, you can’t see much of anything from the top of any mountain anyway
Impossible if you take this literal in either case. Even on the tallest mountain we have, you cannot see every kingdom on earth.
Great scripture. So is the Return of the Son. Every eye will see him on that day when he returns.......
Also. The stars will fall from heaven to the earth and the heavens will roll back like a scroll. There are these and well over 50 scriptures that explain the scriptural earth. No doubt, it is flat. Flat Earth Dave shows many scientific proofs as well. So did Rob Skiba. There is no earth curvature in experiments. Pastor Odell shows Military, CIA, NASA, documents that they know the earth is a flat plane.....
There’s more effort put into trying to convince people the earth ain’t flat than ppl who say it’s flat.
Since everybody in the real world knows that the Earth is not flat, it really doesn't take much effort.
That's because the lat earth crowd are dead set in their belief and are very resistant to accepting the evidence that they're wrong.
@Tunafisher-q7c Well said
@@jockyoung4491 it shouldn’t take any effort is the point DA. Stupid people think like you intelligent people wonder why all the effort to hide it if it’s not true
Google Brandolini's law. Its a classic example. It takes an order of magnitude more effort to disprove a statement than the effort necessary to make it.
It is said that, in a very flat part of South Africa, the local church council was debating the shape of the earth. After weighing all the evidence available to them at the time, they came to the conclusion that they did not know wether the earth was round or flat , but that it was definitely flat were they were!
😂 When was this? There is such a place in South Africa, it's called Umhlabuyalingana which translates to "the land is even".
I can't believe I'm here watching this video and that's because I've just met a very first flat earther in my life and I can't believe we are debating about this. 🤦🏾♀️
@@nondumisomazibuko335 It is absolutely astounding in today's day and age that a large group of people still blindly believe a book written thousands of years by men that wiped their buts with communal brushes, over the mountains of scientific evidence that has been accumulated up to today. We have images of the earth taken every 10 minutes by satellites that are automatically dismissed because "mu bible says".. It's very disappointing..
@nondumisomazibuko335 I don't know, I think long before my time. I don't know were in South Africa.
@@nondumisomazibuko335 Crazy, I'm a Christian here in East London, EC and I've been looking at this stuff in recent years too and honestly I'm not sure anymore, I wish we had a satellite that would show us LIVE what the Earth really looks like, especially bellow the Earth
@@abongiledlova477 Brother, proof of above Earth exists here on Earth, IDK of below
I remember being a young lad around eight years old hearing the scripture “and every eye will see him” I thought to myself, how will every eye see him on a globe earth? Now I read scripture like, the earth is fixed on pillars and immovable and it’s says the sun, moon and stars revolve around earth in the firmament, in no way that can mean that we’re spinning at 1000mph around the sun through infinite galaxies at half a million miles an hour, it’s unbiblical and ludicrous, 3 years flat earther now, they’re hiding God, evolution can only exist with the globe model, ask for Heavenly wisdom for God to remove the veil, this is the great delusion spoken of in the Bible where even the very elect will be deceived, praise God it’s not a salvation issue but so many are coming to Christ only after they study this subject and realise we are all there is out there, created for a purpose, extremely important to our creator Jesus, no other planets with other life forms, no aliens, Jesus is King. 🙏
Evolution can only exist in a globe model if you doubt God at his word , 6 days creation 1 day of rest - Jesus is Lord !
Amen💯♥️
Tim, praise God for what He has shown you.
My prayer is that more followers of Christ will break free from the masonic/satanic indoctrination.
Absolutely!!
@@mvemj9713right on!
For the longest time, I thought the flat earth movement was a hoax or just trolling.
A lot of flat-earthers know that they're wrong. They're either trolling or trying to make money off of lying to people. There are some people who actually think it's flat.
Unfortunately, it's not. What's worse is it's gaining traction. Don't think of the movement as people who genuinely believe in it. What drives them 80% of the time is their desire to go against the satanic powers of the world. That's it. The subject matter can be anything, it just so happens to be the shape of the earth. The entire point of the movement is to "Expose" the satanic influence of the world. That's it. Regardless of how illogical and untrue the flat earth model or theory is.
And today you believe?
we see way to far for it to be a ball.
It's 2025 and there is zero evidence that the sun will rise SE, north at noon and set SW, for anyone ever. There is zero evidence that the sun will appear to rise due east, overhead at noon and set due west for someone at the equator, on an equinox.
Both of those observations must happen for the globe to be true, their timing is predictable, if you are in the southern hemisphere, this would be extremely easy to show.
None of the flatters or globers, supposedly south of the equator, will show evidence one way or the other.
for a lot of people north of the equator, you can watch the sun rise/set north of due east/west on the equinoxes. not possible on the waterball doing a quadruple corkscrew at millions of mph
@@2BluntsLater Apparently people really believe it.
Very disingenuous putting the flat earth model floating in space. No flat earther believes in that.
Many flerfs do. That's part of the problem, there is no unified flat earth model.
The concept of “space” itself is inherently flawed. I would argue that man has never been to space. That is my belief., if he has gone to space, why the need to “fake” floating people in a space station while a glass of water sits on a table IN THE SAME SCENE totally affected by normal gravity. Why does NASA need blue screens and circus harnesses to film these “Astro-NOTS”? There is just way more evidence AND credibility of flat earth than for a spinning ball. No, I do not believe ANYTHING that NASA says.
Ending the flat earth debate?
1) Venus - it should never be seen at night on a solar system model.... Due to it being "closer to the sun", therefore its "claimed" circuit would make it impossible to be seen at night. Do a diagram - you will quickly see!
2) Every 6 months on a "solar system model", the whole entire night time side of earth should see an entirely different set of stars, as the earth is facing the opposite side of the universe.... Again we don't see that!
In reality, We see the same set of stars on earth, just at different locations 6 months later, based on viewer observation and the viewers latitude at different times of the year- again draw a diagram to ascertain this. It is obvious.
3) The whole deception around stars and their "claimed" distances and properties and sizes. Do an investigation into that arras to ascertain how they manufacture these "claims"....
...From Huble-Lamtres law, to astro-spectroscopy. It is all hot air - Nothing ever verified or confirmed, from distances, to sizes, to compositiom regarding the stars. It is all based on guess work!
Look into it - I recommend "deceived by the stars", by Dean Odle EU, availble on UA-cam, for further research regarding the stars.
The three above points are very basic flaws that can be ascertained simply with thinking. There are many, many other flaws that could be sighted- but simple chains on the mind broken first.
God bless brothers and sisters.
And thanks for all your research on evolution and creation science over decades now. God bless you richly.
Keep fighting the good fight.
Not true. Some do.
@@thejabberwocky2819 only misinfomation from the fe society believe that crap no flat earthers iv met believe that
It doesn't matter what any people say. This is God's earth and I'll let him tell me what it is, until he makes a new one
What i find interesting is Nicolaus Copernic greatest regret before he died was being talked into saying everything revolved around sun by catholic church
You Christians who believe NASA over the Bible blow my mind. Strong delusions.
The Bible doesn't teach the shape of the earth.
I don't have to known NASA even exists. There are multiple mathematical and science problems with the flat earth model. I am a Christian and there is no harm in believing the earth is a sphere. People are not drawn from God by NASA...they are drawn away by their sin.
@Juraikken Im sorry, it definitely says God set Earth on it's foundations and it is unmoving... try reading it again.
@@ericferguson22ef Tell my the scriptures you are referencing and I will read them.
@@Juraikkenit clearly does
Hold on a second... I'm willing to pretend the Earth is flat if you take me to Antarctica. That sounds like a fun trip.
Good luck getting interior exploration approved with the Antarctic Treaty in place.
@@billkeithchannelIt was only 5 months ago that you were telling us nobody could go south of 60 degrees and that laser wielding penguins would blast us if we went near the "ice wall".
Now, in two days time, 9 civilians are going to fly over the ice wall amd land on Antarctica at Union Glacier.
So everything you, and all your fellow flat earthers, already told us about Antarctica is being debunked in real time. If you got that wrong, what else did you get wrong? Watch the space.
@@billkeithchannelTry actually reading the treaty. You know, so you stop embarrassing yourself
Your on your own. There's a reason people don't live there for long.
THAT is EXACTLY why some are going. LOL...free trip, and have it mean nothing to the shape of earth.
This is not an experiment. It is an observation
An observation which will debunk flat earth completely.
Oh, and it is an experiment.
The observation + the predictions = the experiment.
@@michaelkraemer8965 True, it also wouldn’t be a “final” experiment if it was one. We cannot base our entire understanding of reality off of a few guys going to Antarctica to see if the sun stays up all night.
Sounds like you are already hatching excuses.😂
@@Farmer4Truth You can if youre honest.
ive never met a single globe earther who can explain anything about the heliocentric model but any flat earther can explain both models with ease
Weird, I've met plenty of globers that can explain the globe model without issue.
Flat earthers can't explain either model. Care to name a flerf that has even a rudimentary understanding of the globe model? Bonus points if they can define the flat earth model while you're at it.
Then you should have no problem telling us the elevation/diameter of the "local" FE sun/moon.
@@brushmasterspaintingfranchise 'globe earther'.. makes it sound as if there is an alternative or something.
@ I can’t tell what you mean? Are you saying makes it sound like there is an alternative as in the earth is flat and there is no globe? Or it’s a globe and not flat? 🤷🏻♂️
Could you explain how the flat earth model could possibly predict type, date, and location of eclipses well in advance; meteor showers; position, movement, and brightness of other planets; sunset and sunrise times; and the existence of a 24-hour sun in Antarctica (which will be broadcasted through this experiment shortly)?
Any flat earther who can explain both models with ease would have to be able to explain all of that stuff, because the fact that those things are accurately predicted with the globe model but not with the flat earth model should matter to anyone making a claim about the shape of our world. There are plenty more questions I have that a flat earther who understands both models should be able to answer, but I didn't want to inundate you with too many of them at once. Feel free to ask once you've answered the above ones if you'd like more.
Thanks for mentioning at least 3 new fe channels to check out 😂 doing the LORD's work. Also, globers always say it's the fe's who are condescending and rigid in their beliefs, but the tone of this video is mocking. Proclaiming themselves wise, they became fools...
I'm quite disappointed in Answers in Genesis hosts. Its sad to see them deny God's handiwork.
I missed the mocking tone. What is it about you that perceived mocking?
@kathyh.1720 that's an interesting choice of words you used... i used observation and critical thinking. If you mean what about the VIDEO was mocking, i would say the dismissive laughter and the way they described fe's.
@@queserasera1540 Answers NOT in Genesis. They jumped the shark in 2017. And technically earlier when Ken Ham did a terrible job in his debate with that Mechanical Engineer turned actor Bill Lye with the Bow Tie.
All Flerths are very, very stupid.
_Answers in Genesis,_ you did a great job with this interview, and your web page about the globe Earth is quite well done. Now all you need to do is examine the evidence for an old Earth and evolution with the same open mind, and you'll be more or less in agreement with the real world.
This experiment is privatized and they would never allow for free humans to freely explore this place called Antarctica. A 24 hour sun would be interesting but it doesn’t disprove or prove a globe and a flat earth.
It would disprove the globe. They need their antipode with a 24 hr sun circling it.
But several people have and are freely exploring Antarctica
LOL You can't be serious. You're seriously using the whole "people can't explore Antarctica" when a group of people are literally going there now? Take the L man. How exactly can earth be flat if Antarctica is proven not to be encircling us (which the 24 hour sun there obviously will do)? What is your model if it's not encircling us?
@@joeldriver-sp2rg "LOL"
You're, very obviously, not here for a serious conversation.
That’s not true. Anyone can explore Antarctica unimpeded. You just need to tell the emergency services where you are going in case something goes wrong
I always love how people’s curiosity leads them into amazing research/experiments! I admire men and women who endeavor in these ventures!
But what I love most is how each and every single time, God’s existence is unequivocally confirmed and the Bible is proven right!
Not that The Creator of everything “needs “ our confirmation or approval. He’s probably amused by our never ending struggles to search for a truth that has always existed in plain sight because of our stubborn refusal to just trust and obey.
Pray for peace, discernment and safety for everyone involved in adventure! ✝️😊
The bible is so wrong it even get the first page wrong
The Bible clearly contradicts Globe Earth model. Also even if there was a 24 hour sun in Antarctica that still does not prove that the Earth is a spinning ball.
The holow bible IS NOT a science text bock. It is so filled with contradictions and messed up with stories and myths from other religions and myths from all over Middle East, it cannot really be a book to base a religion on.
The thing is, the notion that going to Antarctica is going to confirm the shape of the earth one way or the other is silly at face value…
I’m so impressed, you guys put so much pertinent information into a short package and keep it simple, and keep relatively neutral. Well done
I will be participating in the Final Experiment by photographing sun spots during the time they are in Antarctica. I can't wait for this event! Thanks for all your effort and generosity Will!
what a waste of time
@ maybe pointing an infrared thermometer at the moon would be proper science? 😂
@@MrBowser2012 whatever that means, emojis are the indication that you dont have much to say.
It's 2025 and there is zero evidence that the sun will rise SE, north at noon and set SW, for anyone ever. There is zero evidence that the sun will appear to rise due east, overhead at noon and set due west for someone at the equator, on an equinox.
Both of those observations must happen for the globe to be true, their timing is predictable, if you are in the southern hemisphere, this would be extremely easy to show.
None of the flatters or globers, supposedly south of the equator, will show evidence of their claims.
for a lot of people north of the equator, you can watch the sun rise/set north of due east/west on the equinoxes. not possible on the waterball doing a quadruple corkscrew at millions of mph
Will Duffy is not generous. He is a grifter who used to make videos promoting taking loans against life insurance as a shady way to make money. He reads a script (literally) and is likely an asset for disinfo gatekeeper programs.
Why do I have the feeling this is debated more now than at any other time in history?
And the funny thing is when we get to Heaven it won’t even matter lol.
@@april-showers77 I think He might. God will say thank you for believing in my creation and not mans.
@QuixoteX The reason is simple: The internet. With the internet a very small group of people can appear to be larger than they really are.
Example: there's currently 8 billion (8,000,000,000) people on earth.
...If only half of those 8 billion people (4 billion) have internet connections
...and only .0001% of those people believe in an idea,
...that would give you 4000 people who agree with the idea.
...If only 3% of those 4,000 people were actively campaigning for the idea
...that would give you 120 peope actively trying to convince you that their idea is right, while the rest of them just nod and agree.
Now those 120 people start channels on UA-cam, or other platforms. With that many channels supporting the idea it's easy to be fooled into thinking that the idea has more support than it actually does.
The more people who believe the idea the faster the idea gains acceptance.
One of the more insidious ideas that has gained traction that way is the transgender movement. Transgenderism originally comprised an extremely small percentage of the population, but using the example I stated above they have have made themselves appear to have more people than they really do.
Unlike transgenderism convincing people of a flat earth doesn't destroy people's lives before they're old enough to understand what life is.
@QuixoteX The reason is simple: The internet. With the internet a very small group of people can appear to be larger than they really are.
Example: there's currently 8 billion (8,000,000,000) people on earth.
...If only half of those 8 billion people (4 billion) have internet connections
...and only .0001% of those people believe in an idea,
...that would give you 4000 people who agree with the idea.
...If only 3% of those 4,000 people were actively campaigning for the idea
Now those 120 people start channels on UA-cam, or other platforms. With that many channels supporting the idea it's easy to be fooled into thinking that the idea has more support than it actually does.
The more people who believe the idea the faster the idea gains acceptance.
Gotta love people using a religious book written thousands of years ago to explain their understanding of science in 2024 and almost 2025.
Lack of curiosity kills progress.
Disregarding mountains of evidence kills it more.
I agree. It applies to both flat earthers and creationists.
Tell that to Eric Dubay and David Weiss.
I agree, the world would be far more advanced today if it wasn't for religion. Religion has over the centuries crushed science and development.
Science is simply Man's mechanism for discovering God's intelligent design
Or to try to disprove God completely.
Or for hiding God's Creation. (that is what they are doing)
@@queserasera1540 Which hasn't happened, nor will it ever.
Or attempting to disprove
@@Juraikkenthey can't, the more "science " which on itself is a cult, the more they open the eyes and minds of the masses.
What about the force of "gravity" It would take to hold the Volume of water in the deep oceans on a spinning ball? We wouldn't be able to lift our foot off the ground. Water in a glass is level.
The force of gravity is proportional to the objects mass. It pulls fairly harder on the oceans than your foot.
Also… look at a glass of water. Is it really level?
A drop of water is curved
@@billcook4768 The alleged "gravity" is a dual hypothesis (not a theory or law) of 1st "mass attracting mass", and when this fails ALL experimemtation (cavendish carney contraption is not an experiment) then "gravity" is called "bending space-time" which has no proof of existance.
You really should learn about the things you're trying to defend, because you literally don't know them.
@@jaxonb14Surface tension exists in smaller amounts of water which form curved drops. The point is that ALL large bodies of water at rest lay flat and level with no convexity, and the globe REQUIRES it to be curved at h=r*(1-cos a), and this is never observed. The perfectly symetrical reflections on still water also prove that it has no convexity.
Fallacy number one: "The sun setting on the flat earth is due to perspective - is not a good argument." It is a completely genuine argument. As it moves away, it becomes smaller and disappears into the thickness of the atmos which gives it the appearance of setting. Fallacy number two: " Flat earthers don't believe in gravity...they just throw that out." No, we do not simply throw it out. We actually explain what "gravity" is. Everything has an electric-static potential, along with buoyancy and density, makes things go up and down. Where is this gravity when helium balloons go soaring up to the stratosphere? I could go on and on with your endless amount of fallacies, but I think you get the point. Einstein said it best: Condemnation without investigation is the pinnacle of ignorance.
"It becomes smaller" - An outrageous lie no flerf has ever been able to capture on video
Learn how perspective works. Elementary school children understand it better than flerfs do
Electro statics don't replace gravity. If you disagree, explain how electrically neutral objects are pulled down
And how much investigation have you done on "electrostatics".
Right, except the Sun doesn't get smaller as the afternoon draws on. It should also get substantially dimmer. It doesn't.
No, a lot of flerfs genuinely just throw out gravity and don't bother replacing it. Electrically neutral items would float. Also, Faraday cages would become anti gravity cages.
Gravity is pulling the air down around the balloon which in turn pushes the balloon up. It's the exact same principle that causes a child rises into the air when an adult hops on the other end of a seesaw.
Einstein was spot on.
Except it doesnt get smaller. You can prove this yourself with a camera and a solar filter. It stays the same size all day until it disappears BEHIND the horizon.
Do you seriously believe flat earth will be allowed to prove?
Probably not. This project is most likely a set up.
Today is December 12th..... We will find out on December 13th.... Friday the 13th😮😮😮😮
@@paulbarbacano1109 what exactly did we find out yesterday?
The Bible consistently and repeatedly says the earth is fixed and doesn't move.
And that is not what we find in reality
@@xXMACEMANXx It is exactly what we find in reality.
@@digitalwilderness1758Explain how the stars rotate above us without the earth moving.
Then explain why and how they're moving faster than the speed of light.
@@digitalwilderness1758 To be fair, all movement is relative. The Earth isn't orbiting the sun, so much as the Earth is actually orbiting the changing center point of gravitational influence between all bodies. The sun just has the most dramatic influence over the Earths orbit, but that isn't to say that the other planets don't also exert their influence onto the orbit of the Earth, or that the Earth also influences this point, even slightly.
But regardless, we do know beyond a shadow of a doubt that the Earth is in motion relative to the rest of the universe
@@xXMACEMANXxCut it out. You know the flat eartters won't understand any of that.
The earth is fixed, immovable. The sun has a circuit.
God says the earth shall not be moved so God made it move through space in a corkscrewing motion at incomprehensible speeds. That makes so much sense. 😂😂
@@truth2power528 The Bible also says that David did not move.
The Bible doesn't give you a universe. The Stars, for example, in Judges 5:20 The stars in their courses fought against Sisera. Light in the firmament doesn't mean Earth is a globe. Light was created before the sun. Sun was created on the fourth day. This destroys your universal belief.
Interesting thought.
Why would the sun being created later than the earth destroy a universe theory?
That light (before the sun is made) is most likely the electromagnetic spectrum. In the beginning, we have time; God created created the heavens, so there's space, and the earth, which is matter, and then there's light, the electromagnetic spectrum. So there's time, space, matter, and light (we just use a different word for that in today's age, but it is light).
@kathyh.1720 That's a big NO. The Scriptures were very clear the evening and morning. This is the problem with these false preachers. You can not add or take away from scripture. Facts
@@kathyh.1720 Your name for the Creator is different too. The Big Bang? That's very disrespectful if you ask me. And you can't see that's the devil naming Him that? Really?
Those stars will also fall from heaven during the tribulation. I would hate to be here when the Sun (also a STAR - yeah right) lands on Earth... LOL!
Why do the stars look the same every night? If we're always moving in multiple ways. Genuine question
Genuine answer: because they are so very far away from us, and also because the nearby ones are moving in more or less the same direction we are, moving around our Galaxy. Also, they don't look precisely the same every night. If you're an astronomer, you will know how much constellations change over time- much too slowly for anyone to see a change over their lifetime with the naked eye, but observable nonetheless.
It takes thousands of years for the constellations to change noticably
Because earth is stationary but the lights in the firmament are moving.
Book of Enoch - section 1 chapter 2
"Observe ye everything that takes place in the heaven, how they do not change their orbits, and the luminaries which are in the heaven, how they all rise and set in order each in its season, and transgress not against their appointed order."
@@river_eagle Enoch was a good enough observer for his time. But now, we have telescopes. Things in the heavens do change their orbits, whether you like it or not.
This will settle nothing. Making an observation in the sky does not prove the shape of the earth. If this does anything, it tells us a particular model might not work the way some might believe.
And I'm sure you can point us to all the comments you made over the years under the videos of Eric Dubay, Dave Weiss, Austin Witsit, Jeran, Nathan Oakley, Flatzoid, etc. when they repeatedly said the 24 hour sun in Antarctica did falsify the FE.
Just like all you flerfs trying to ignore the fact that every one of you were adamant for years that "they" wouldn't allow anyone beyond the 60th parallel due to the Antarctic Treaty. Then TFE called your bluff and suddenly everyone is trying to pretend they never said it.
Lame.
I checked out a bunch of flat Earth vids years ago. Never heard the smoking gun, don't subscribe to it, but there was one point that was made that was odd. People were looking through telescopes to distant sky scrapers over bodies of water and you could still see the bottom of the skyscraper. Doing the math of the curvature of the Earth that skyscraper should be out of view. The usual answer from those who debate flat Earth their answer is there is some sort of light bending occurring as well.
It's true, light does bend and you can see it even without a telescope. Depending on the temperature and I believe humidity.
@@HisServant77Hahaha gullible.
Look harder. There are hundreds of proofs. Latest, twilight is shorter in the Australia in their summer than in winter. It should be the opposite.
A group from South America did several tests: Laser light among others. I think it is called Convex Earth, this test convinced a lot of professional people who went into it with serious doubts.
They've never provided one piece of actual "video" evidence of the flat earth.. All conceptual drawings or CGI..
Anything to get your focus off The Lord Jesus Christ and on "knowledge". Same thing with science, religion, conspiracies, Hebrew roots, etc, etc. They all focus on knowledge & how much you know. Christianity is focused on WHO you know not what you know.
Really? Then why did he inspire the early church fathers to add the old testament? Prophecies of Christ's first and second coming. Historical information that allows us to prove the basis of the bible. And Hebrew roots? Do you think the Hebrews were not the root of Christianity? The whole bible is written by Jews. Jesus was a Jew. He was sent first for the Jew, THEN for the gentile.
Are you afraid of people asking questions? Does the Lord tell us not to seek out wisdom and knowledge? Does he want us to be dumb?
Do you think that Christians should not go to school or learn a trade? Cause that knowledge might get our focus off Christ. Do you read and seek knowledge? Do you have a job? Such a hypocrite.
WOW your comment should have a millions thumbs up!! Spot on. The devil is the master of deception and DEFLECTION, let's focus on any and everything but the gospel of Jesus Christ. How do people get so deceived on a topic the Bible talks about wayyyy less than Jesus Christ and Him crucified!??
Which is ironic cos MANY people are coming to the Lord through realising the FLAT shape of His creation.
@@Lance.West4 So, what if it helps you to refocus on Him rather than modern “science”and the worries of the world?
@AndrewFosterSheff69 That doesn't make it true... Is your faith in your knowledge or Jesus. Most flerfs have a holier than thow attitude. Puffed up with pride thinking what they know impresses God somehow. Get off that high horse of knowledge and humble yourself. We know absolutely nothing compared to God. He can make it however he pleases! It can be a ball moving through space perfectly. It can be a disk with a dome over it. Do you not think God is capable of making ball flying through space, or you don't think he would do it like that?
Either way you're lifting yourself up to bring God down.
Your illustrations of the flat Earth are biased against the true depictions of what we know the flat Earth should look like.
Going to Antarctica is not going to prove anything all kinds of explorers incredible researchers have been there. That's why we have all the speculation and inconclusive
@@stephenguthrie3907 Yeah and none of them claim the Earth is flat, and yes going there will prove it, it just wont prove it to flat earthers because their not after truth, they are afraid of the truth. They cant even explain little things about our world, like how stars rotate, so its a joke to even consider their model coherent
The earth can’t be shaped like a pizza. The Bible clearly says the earth has four corners.
@adairjanney7109 how can it prove anything? many people have come ,and gone ,and still the speculation exists. most people hold on to personal bias because of cognitive dissonance. And from your perspective you say flat earthers but that's true for everyone. They tend to try to confirm their own beliefs rather than accepting Truth for what it is. Truth is under no obligation to conform to what someone thinks it should be. It will still be true if no one in the world believes it.just like a lie can still be a lie if everyone on Earth believes it......
@@billcook4768 Think of it like a stool with four legs to stand on. The Bible DOES say the Earth is God's foot stool, right?
In the end times when science is believed over the Bible then you know that the GREAT DECEPTION HAS BEGUN!!!
It’s not about logic though. It’s about tribe and trust. It’s about being on the opposite team no matter what.
What proclaims the glory of God more is walking in love.
1 Cor 13:2....If I have the gift of prophecy and can fathom all mysteries and all KNOWLEDGE, and if I have a faith that can move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing.
@PanhandleFrank Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres. 1 Cor 13:4-7
Just saying
@@ginnyboykinhoover7645 Amen, amen, and amen.
All of which has nothing to do with brothers lovingly showing other brothers the truth re. God's creation.
If your Christian doctor told you that you have cancer, would he not be loving you?
ººIf you can see waves crashing on the beach with a zoom lens 20/30 miles out to sea, then you already know that the Earth is flat. You just haven't connected the dots yet.
If you know that we've been navigating by Fixed Star Location for over six thousand years, then you already know that the Earth is stationary. You just need to put the pieces together.
If you want to see flat-earth proof then take an airplane five miles high and look out the window. The horizon will always come up to your eye level. That can't happen on a ball and it would be stupid to believe otherwise
@@talleneagle1974 You just don't get it... It was reading books and listening to others that first mislead the first graders into believing that the Earth is a spinning ball.
Put down your stupid books and go outside and look around. Do you feel any motion ? No you don't.
If there were a mild earthquake you would sure feel that. But somehow we never feel the Earth spinning around at over a thousand miles an hour. That's just stupid.
"The Earth is at rest and it cannot be moved."
On that same airplane you can start in Kansas and go west around the earth and end up in Kansas. So that proves the earth is round.
@super_ficial A sphere then. A block is square by the way.
@@super_ficial If you walk only west you will not end up back at you house if you live on a square block😂
@@cynthiawashburn771 A city block is considered to be square. And airplanes that are traveling around the world always have to travel West to East or East to West. They never travel over Antarctica.
This was never a question for me until I married a flat earther. We've had many long discussions and debates over theories, "evidence", and of course the incorruptible word of God. I've become open to the idea that I could be flat. This of course weighs heavily on the possibility that most of what NASa spoon feeds the masses is false. This is easy to believe with overwhelming evidence coupled with the fact that evolution and other such things have been pushed on us as truth. Scripture is my first and main go to. The problem is, is that both round and flat earthers can take each scripture and see it from both perspectives. The earth can still be round and have "pillars". The ends of the earth can still apply to the early disciples reaching. The sun can stand still from both sides and so on and on.
What I hate is the mockery and pride from both sides. Especially my fellow globers! 😥 Come off of it! Be respectful as other people work things out at their own pace and not just blindly take someone else's evidence and just gullibly believe. Either way, round or flat, God created the earth and all who are here. Get born again because Jesus is real, he is who he says he is and is coming back soon! Btw, there is plenty of evidence to prove this!
No one needs NASA to know Earth is spherical.
Evolution is a fair supported by an overwhelming amount of evidence.
Come back with the accurate FE map then maybe we'll start taking you seriously.
Well said!
@Utiger619 **Facepalm**
Yet you want us to be gullible in what the Bible literally says.
Considering the Bible itself was written down by and revised by mankind, And all evidence points to spherical. Its time for your partner to wake up, it is spherical.
Interesting to see the godless post in agreement and stating scripture is for the most part just a storybook.
i represent TRIANGULAR EARTH... WE HAVE A POINT.
🤣I'm stealing that!
'A' point or three?🤔
I'm blown away as to how the vast majority of commenters here are FE. It makes me very happy. What makes me sad is that an apologetic organization chooses to deny God's Word and go with the whirled view. I lost all trust in AIG 7 years ago as soon as I realized that they deny Biblical cosmology.
Maybe because the entire Christian community is sane enough to realise the Bible is not a science book and is irrelevant to the shape of the Earth.
Or provide the accurate FE map.
100%
It should make anyone that has more than two brain cells rather sad, it is the dumbing down of humanity being displayed here. Nothing more. The Bible was written down by, and revised by mankind. All actual real world evidence points to spherical. Wake up
It goes with low intelligence. Low intelligent people are predisposed towards religion.
You should love AiG. They are science deniers, just like you.
As a flat earther, I'm surprised alot of them turned this opportunity down, especially knowing all expenses are payed for. I would grab it in a heartbeat. it's like if your sure your right, what are you afraid of? Take me, please.
You guys are so deceptive showing these pancake floating in space cartoons. If there was a 24h in Antarctica there would be tourism like there is for the Arctic. I called the airline that takes people to Antarctica for tourism asking about the 24h sun and they said no, it doesn't happen. Just the penguins and stuff.
There is. There is tourism to both places
False. Thanks for wasting your time and other people's however. Countless people have witnessed the 24 hour Antarctic sun. Flerfs witnessing it themselves is the only difference. Gotta lie to flerf. Wake TF Up
Liar,
@elo.musica That is a flat out lie. The company TFE is using, Antarctic Logistics & Expeditions (ALE) specifically requires customers to bring gear to deal with the 24 hour sun. So do the other Antarctic expedition companies - Quark, Aurora Expeditions, Polar Latitudes, Viking, Antarctica Travels, Swoop, Poseidon Expeditions.
Which brings us to the fact that 10's of thousands of tourists do visit Antarctica every year - hence the numerous companies offering travel packages there.
@@NotThatBryanThomasYou know nothing of the subject.
I really wish I could go with y'all. I'm really good at keeping peace between strangers. Raised in the fine state of GA, I'm full of real southern hospitality. I hope everyone is cordial and kind to one another.
Don't worry, the globers have a working map and GPS 😊
I’m also Georgia born and raised. Southern Hospitality is absolutely real! But Antarctica sounds awfully cold and uncomfortable.
@ATLbench comfort isn't the goal.
Come on, be real. They're not strangers. Everyone going is on the same team.
@@Ant-man-01 that's very not likely. Too much at stake.
It’s flat
id love one fer to explain how the stars rotate in different directions in the north than they do the south
Are you a
Bot?!@@adairjanney7109
Something tells me “two blunts later” is messing with us. 😊
@@adairjanney7109 🤦♂️ when you’re looking south the stars will appear to rotate one way and north they rotate the other.
They’re still rotating the same direction however you skin the cat.
It’s literally a body orientation question.are you facing north or south
Stand under a fan in the middle of a blade.
From the middle face “north” the center and look at the blade.
It should be moving right to left directly above you.
If you turn around “due south” you’ll simply see that now the blade or “stars” move left to right.
Really simple
Then
False. All real world observations point to spherical. Wake Up
The salt flat in Bolivia when it's covered by a few inches of rain water makes an 80 by 100 mile perfectly flat mirror. That is the perfect FE proof and nothing else is really needed. The earth can not be spherical and water make a perfect flat mirror of that size. Look up pictures to see what I'm talking about.
It's level but not flat.
Learn basic physics too please.
And geography.
Still no accurate FE map ?
100% There are hundreds of video of distance tests where we should see certain objects yet we can. So either the Earth is much much larger than we are told or the math is wrong. I'm still not settled on what I truly believe but it's a very interesting subject.
Another debunked claim, just like every other flerf claim. When you have a model of flerf that doesn't debunk itself, do provide it. All evidence points to spherical, Wake Up
I live on the east coast of North America and my experience in small boats at sea tells me you are wrong.
Wrong.
ººNo one ever falls off, "the edge" because the material realm or physical plane of existence is most likely infinite. And not to mention...You can't fall up a two hundred foot ice wall.
Finite things, such as anything that can be measured or counted, cannot be infinite.
The material realm cannot be infinite. You yourself have mentioned a two hundred foot ice wall. That, then, is finite. It's measurable. It's also material. The earth--whether flat or global/spherical--cannot be infinite because it can be measured.
Therefore, it's conceivably possible to fall off the edge of a flat earth. And people can climb up ice walls, so with the right preparation, skills, and equipment, it would be possible to climb or otherwise ascend a 200-foot ice wall. And what's on the other side of that wall? We'll have to ask the people who climb it, unless they fall off and are forever lost in space.
Evidence?
"Winter is coming!" Better send some more boys out to Castle Black. Those ice zombies might scale them walls.
@@JCW7100 Give evidence it's not so.
There is no edge as such, we are surrounded by the firmament, so even if you got to the "edge", you'd not be able to break past it.
Look into Operation FISHBOWL (which resulted directly from Admiral Byrd finding said edge / firmament).
Operation FISHBOWL was part of a larger Project called DOMINIC (which means "of the Lord").
Operation "Fishbowl of the Lord", the powers that be KNOW. You are welcome.
That this is even a topic proves that evolution is false. The world’s level of intelligence continues its plummet….
Evolution is a theory of randomness, not progress toward a goal. There is no reason to expect or think that any evolutionary changes would make anything "better". By the way, the word "better" has no meaning without knowing what "good" is and how that good could be somehow better. Is more intelligence better? Why? Is a world of robots better? Why? What would make one thing better than anything? There must be some standard of "goodness" against which things can be compared, and that which conforms closer to that standard is better than something that is less like that standard.
@ Might want to pick up some standard biology textbooks and reconsider what you think evolution is per the actual evolutionists themselves! They clearly teach simple to complex and “survival of the fittest” which is in their minds akin to being “better”; although I do agree on your references to a “good” based standard.
And to be clear, darwinian evolution as has been taught for a long time now is absolutely and completely false. Totally void of a single piece of empirical evidence. Life did not and cannot start on its own. Biogenesis is ridiculous and this is why evolutionists disregard it and call it another discipline that doesn’t concern them. 😂😂😂.
My main point of course was that the flat earth nonsense is easily proven to be false by a 5 year old with a flashlight and a piete of cardboard. This shows that adherents to the proven absurdity of such an idea cannot be getting more intelligent over time. We are actually “devolving.”
You’re ridiculous Scott evolution is Rubbish.
@ Since there is no such thing as Darwinian “evolutionary change” I would agree.
It proves that you don't know what evolution is in the slightest. You are no different from the flat earthers.
I am in Australia the earth is not flat.
One thing I’ve always found funny with the flat earth is that their “models” always seem to neglect the entire southern hemisphere 😂😂
that will not change the mind of anyone - flatearthers are so captivated in their ideology that they will not accept any proof. It’s a form of extrem delusion - we can pray for them that Jesus may give them the freedom to acknowledge truth, but without that we will not be able to convince them
Hold up, You guys say that the Earth goes around the Sun, why does this guy start with the Sun rotating around the Earth?!!!
LOL 😏
I noticed that too. That is a geocentric model he was using with the sun and moon rotating around the earth.
and going the opposite direction they claim in scientism..
The scripture says the earth is motionless and does not move ,
The entire Christian community disagrees with you, reality does too.
@@daddy4934😂😂😂😂😂
@briancash1405 Yeah, I know, right ?
Believing in the FE hoax in this day and age just because of twisting what an old book says while denying reality, science and technological progress 🤣😂
the Bible was written down by, and revised by mankind. All actual real world evidence points to spherical. Wake up
the Bible was written down by, and revised by mankind. All actual real world evidence points to spherical. Wake up
Anybody who's heard of and understands Short Path VS Long Path radio signals knows that the earth is not flat.
You can not make it any plainer.
Or your signals are bouncing of the dome (firmament) and NOT the ionosphere.
Don't you mean planer?
@@AndrewFosterSheff69No, they aren't.
Feel free to demonstrate how that would work.
@@AndrewFosterSheff69Interesting idea, but you neglected to explain how long-path and short-path would work. Have a go.
Funny how satellites are in space but when u very high up u have no signal wherever there's no poles come on think for yallselves
Problem is that before we were even taught a thing from school we already decided that everything said in school is true with out the need of proof but if u were to take a test paper from 100 years ago with a 100% result and retested it today I bet u they failed
When god made the earth he said it was solid and did not move
And that God created a firmament to separate the waters above the firmament from the waters below the firmament, what's the firmament in the globe model? it doesn't make any sense
That's because your book is old Jewish poetry and is irrelevant to the shape of the Earth.
Still no accurate FE map.
@benjy288 exactly my friend . The glory of god and the firmament sheweth his handywork
Then we shall wait for the results, let us see who is wrong. Can't wait for people to say it was faked and staged.
@@yaboikindabored9831 The globe has already been debunked, a few hours ago they were live streaming and the sun had set but it was still relatively light, while it was noon in Australia, which is supposed to be on the other side of the globe
Curious, what happens if it turns out that the earth is flat? What are the repercussions of this
Let's worry about that if it happens, shall we.
A number of Globists have said they will publicly acknowledge that the Earth is flat. However many Flat Earthers, ones who refused an invitation to go, say it will mean nothing despite saying a 24 hour sun in Antarctica is impossible on a flat earth. Do we see they are dishonest. Many of them make their living with channels appealing to ignorant flat earthers, so it is not surprising that these grifters reject the experiment.
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@@JohnSmith-ux3tt not worried, just curious, what would change through out society and our understanding? What impact would it make
I have the same question. Why the huge conflict over something like this? It's as though this issue takes precedence over the main goal of God's Word,which teaches worship God and come back to Him through what Christ did. This experiment is truly interesting and I'm not against it, but really, WHY are Christians becoming so fixated on the shape of the earth? Is this not a red flag?
I look forward to seeing the documentary on this....
Hey, I've just decided to become a "Flat Earther". I'm willing to have an all-expense paid trip to Antarctica for you to prove me wrong. When are we leaving?
Are u being legit right now or just joking?
The plane is leaving to Antarctica from Chile on the 14th, so I hope you have your winter gear packed.
When you cough up the dough.
I would love to see a follow up to this after the trip. Please make a video of that too.
We intend to.
You are completely wrong again. The Bible teaches a flat earth from cover to cover. I again offer to send you a detailed Bible study on the issue. So far no one wants to read it. If you were to read it then you would see that God created a big beautiful flat earth. I challenge you to read it. Tell me where to send it!
Read the book GRAVEN IMAGE. Why The Earth Is Not A Globe. Author is Vincent Rhodes. He is a Pastor in Oklahoma.
send it to me! I have quite a large study too. My screen name at oohay (spelled backwards to get around blocking)
I thought the earth was a disc. How can it have corners?
@@Juraikken have you NOT considered what's outside the firmament?
So in other words, Flat Earthers don’t even have a 2nd grade-level education…. 🤯🤯🤯🤯
There is literally no hope Flat Earthers. A simple Lunar Eclipse should have settled it centuries ago....
As if there was any debate to begin with. Earth is, was and always will be a globe
The North Star/Southern Cross being visible only in one or the other hemisphere is one of the best proofs for globe Earth. going to Antarctica would be huge, but u have to prove that you are actually in Antarctica, not just somewhere you assume and call Antarctica.
Nobody below the equator can ever see the north star.
@@appresley4071 exactly. the reverse also true for the Southern Cross. it proves the spherical shape of the Earth
This is AWESOME! l've waited for something like this to happen for YEARS! l'm a person who supports the globe model, and always felt that the Christian ''flat earthers'' undermined the faith in a way by reading the bible and come to such an inaccuracy. So GLAD the time has come. _THANK YOU to Will Duffy_ for putting this together! l can tell that it was NOT easy. lts strange that in a time like this, with all the information we have access to, that people will still believe the earth is flat.
I find it weird that they can see that the sun is round and that the moon is round. And with the telescopes we can see that other planets and stars are round. But earth is the ONLY one that is flat? Or is everything flat and flipping around? Or do they also believe that the sun rotates the earth?
Your biggest inaccuracy is the name of our Creator. It is not The Big Bang! Our creator's name is Yahweh.
@@DarthPoyner You'd have to GO THERE to see if the planets were globes or not. You do not know. You only know they're round and you see only the circles. You don't know if they are flat, if they are globes or even if they are just lights in the sky.
@@AlmondScented Who said anything about the big bang model?
@@AlmondScented Firstly, we've been to the planets, either flypasts, orbiters or robotic landers &, of course, manned moon missions. We can observe them through telescopes and see phases of the inferior planets and see the rotation of the superior planets. We can see the moons of those that have them, orbit their planets. We can examine their spectra and see what their atmospheres are made of.
I really appreciate this research expedition. However watching the mocking looks on your faces is so disrespectful and disheartening to see and it ruins the spirit of good research. I am looking forward to seeing the scientific observational results. Thank you for doing this.
Agree. Why do they want us to accept Catholicism as non-heretical sect? Why do we have an infiltration in the church body teaching tolerance of sin (lgbt)? And yet they act with such fervor and tenacity to alienate a small sect of flat earth Christians? This is disingenuous from the get go.
@@MomofukudoodoowinduIf we're being honest, only LG is a sin according to the bible. But of course Christians are rarely honest when it comes to their beliefs
Using the Global model sail 180 deg. around Antarctica.
Globe Earthers will remain in the southern hemisphere. Brazil, Africa, Australia, and New Zealand will remain above. Obviously.
Flat Earthers will have Northern hemisphere continents below them. Canada, Russia, Green Land, etc. They'd be in the Arctic, essentially.
I'm I seeing that correctly? I'm not an expert. I figured someone would have thought of that and tried it.
The earth isn’t a sphere though. Niel said it was a pear. Only thing I know for sure is that Jesus is Lord
Oblate spheroid
Only fools provide "the truth".
Nobody knows the truth. You can only argue with reasoning.
Earth going 66,600 mph.
Earth curves at a rate of
.6666 ft per mile
66.6 feet per 10 miles
6,666 feet for 100 miles
Can you prove it since you live here?math is easy! If you do the math you will know.
Dude that's a lot of sixes kind of spooky after all satan is the god of this world according to the God of Creation Jehovah...🙃🤪🤔
You have just proved the English system of measurements is Satanic. Repent and go metric, and the evil goes away.
The world works in metric... Who cares about miles and feet?
@ we’re spinning on an accelerated curve going 1666 km
@@9greatdanes981 Lots of funny numbers out there in God's universe.
But perhaps we need to care more about 616 than 666... not sure though.
How can we prove youll actually be in antartica?
Whom did you send the petition to? Meaning who gave permission and what location are you approved to be?
They'll see nonstop sun for the entire five days that they are there. That's sufficient to destroy flat earth, and it doesn't matter where they are. As long as you believe they are on planet earth, that's sufficient
Because they will be able to prove they are in Punta Arenas. What snowy wasteland is a 4 hour flight from there? Antarctica
Something is off here. The Government doesn't let just anybody go freely to Antarctica and they sure don't want the truth getting out there. If its these guys promoting this then we already know their answer.
Where else is going to have 24 hours of sun in December?
They are all going to have GPS locators to prove their position. That is also why Flat Earthers are going also.
Been a flat earther since 2015. However, my view has changed a little. I truly believe, we don't live on a spinning globe. So my true stance, it's not a spinning globe, so an opinion may be flat or something similar. Don't truly know.
Bottom line, i want the truth, whatever that is. I love the fact that this expedition is taking place. Not too sure about the title, as an experiment has several layers that need to be factored in.
The sun and moon are fascinating, with question mark about their role in the sky, etc. I would like to see an online review of all attendees, as i think there will be a lot to discuss.
It's such a shame that infighting has taken place, and now some backtracking too. This is an amazing and unique opportunity to learn a tonne more than we know currently.
To have both factions and an openess to carry several cross checks in addition to the basuc viewing part just adds incredible value.
The next week is exciting and i looked forward to what we learn. It is 100% definitive either way? I am not sure, but i truly hope so.
There are no factions. There is the truth we know for centuries and there is the flat earth drivel
This should be titled Part One of the Final Experiment. I wonder if this has more to do with a delusion rather than a lack if information. Many people have seen the truth and continue to deny it because they love the lie. The flat earth model has become the basis for some to have a new religion, requiring others to confirm it to prove their salvation is true. Belief in Jesus is the only requirement for salvation. Don't be deceived.
@@banemaler The belief of a flat earth is not new, but very old if you cared to crack a book or two open. The devil is the deceiver.
The Flat Earth society has member all around the globe.
I've never heard this one before Mr roBOTnic
'The Flat Earth Society' make mockery of what flat earthers believe. 'Testing the globe' and 'ditrh' are what 9/10s of us agree with.
"Answers in Genisis". Maybe offer up some explanations for what is stated in Genisis in this regard. This channel tends to mock fe folks and dance around biblical explanations.
They don't care about the truth and will claim that scripture is allegory and peotic metaphor that only they know the cprrect interpretation for.
They are liars and frauds.
I think they are just trying to distance themselves from the "conspiracy theorists" in an attempt to become more mainstream.
Wolves in sheep's clothing? The religious Reich!!! 👁️
In the 500’s BC, the Ancient Greeks calculated the circumference of the earth to very close to the actual number.
Any one who wants to really look at the facts. NASA doesn't have one real photograph of Earth, just saying why the hell not? If we landed drones on Mars, but not on real picture of the Earth?
They do, actually. All they have are real photographs. I don't know how flerfs lack the ability to use their fingers to research the difference between a composite photo and a computer generated photo.
There is literally tens of thousands of pictures of Earth from space from dozens of different space agencies, many taken way before the advent of any editing software.
For each of them provide your evidence for fakery or claim dismissed.
Also come back with the accurate FE map.
Is your goal to embarass yourself in public by showing that you're just mindlessly parroting what your FE gurus fed you ?
Wrong, they have hundreds of photos of the Earth, as do the Soviets. Why are Flerths obsessed with NASA?
What’s sad to me is laughing at fellow Christians. Why the need to prove you’re right? We will all know the truth of all things one day very soon. I must wonder, though, if we will be asked to give account for whether proving yourself right brought others closer to Christ or pushed them further away. That’s ultimately all that really matters.
Truth matters
@@ronm6349 Thank you.
@@ronm6349Indeed it does, and heliocentrism is a lie.
These grifters are pretend "christians" who don't know their own religion or the specs of heliocentrism or the steps of the scientific method while they persue their god of money.
Will Duffy is also a fraud who made videos about taking loans against life insurance as a shady way to make money before he began reading scripts for his latest scam.
@@ronm6349Yep. Misinformation has consequences
Jesus is truth.
If water is flat then the earth is flat
If you are paying I will go
Also I will pay one million dollars for one proof we live on a spinning ball
I don't see your logic or reasoning there. Water and earth don't have to behave the same way. I might as well say that if water is flat, then there can be no mountains because the mountains have to be flat, so they can't exist. Doesn't make sense to me. Please explain your logic and reasoning.
@@kathyh.1720 mountains weren't mentioned. Water is flat it means earth has no rotundity to it. It is a topographical plane covered by a dome which is why we can even breathe this pressurised environment
What's your excuse for the 24-hour sun?
@@Chris-rf8is Distance and the dome
You'll pay one million dollars for proof?
Focault's Pendulum.
Let me know when you're ready to transfer the funds.
It’s not that they don’t have confidence, it’s that they are grifter preying upon the ignorant.
The Bible speaks in many scriptures regarding the 4 corners of the Earth
So how do you get corners on a ball ?
Psalm 104:5
He set the earth on its foundations, so that it should never be moved
Because the bible is not a scientific book.
This verse is speaking of 4 directions, not literal corners. Are you quoting a poem or historical narrative? It makes a difference. Or do you believe When Jesus says "I am the gate" that he means he's a literal gate on hinges? context matters
The same can be asked of a flat disc, of course, unless it's rectangular. I believe that it's a way of saying the whole world, just as saying from the rising of the sun to the going down of the same means from the east to the west. We still use very smilar phrases, like "he's travelled to the 4 corners of the globe."
How do you get four corners on a ball? In Revelation 20:8 it says that the devil *_"shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth..."_* So the word "corner" is another word for "quarter". This means that the earth has four parts, or quarters. How do you split up a spherical earth into four quarters? If you draw one line vertically all the way around the earth, and draw another line horizontally, the point at which the two lines meet will produce a cross, and each side of that cross will be a corner that expands out to 1/4th of the earth.
That's what the Bible means by "corners". It means "quarters".
How about people filming their route to south pole from different starting points?
They're all flying from Puento Arenas in Chile.
One flew from australia, over new zealand and directly to south america without coming close to the northern hemisphere. Only possible on a ball
Job 38:13-14 good enough for me not what anyone else says
Facts be dammed, right? The earth is flat cus the Bible says it (it doesnt)
Not good enough for me.
The Bible is full of metaphorical language. Many flat earthers acknowledge this fact, until you start talking about the shape of the earth, then everything is suddenly literal.
@ChristCenteredEschatology yes it does like God has wings in job theirs no metaphorical language and so David is speaking metaphorical in Psalm 148:4 why it can't the waters above be the waters he separated when he separated the waters from the waters Genesis 1:6 or is that metaphorical also I'll take Gods word over NASA anytime no big bang no billions of years and so you know Jesus death wasn't metaphorical
@ Obviously not every word is metaphorical. Pointing out that Jesus’s death was not metaphorical doesn’t make every word in the Bible literal. Not only that, but it is awfully presumptuous and quite a weak argument.
There is a lot of language in the Bible that should not be taken literally. For instance the point of Job 38:13 isn’t that the earth has ends. If you are going to insist on taking things in the Bible that are obviously not meant to be taken literally, then you are not taking God’s word over anything.
There over 100 times in the Bible that the earth is described. Not a single one of those descriptions by God are of a globe or of our earth moving. But just in case you still not sure he very precisely describes us stationary on foundations,Immovable. Robert Goddard in the early 1900’s went over 90,000 ft and described exactly what the Bible describes as it was pressed like wax under the seal. Which basically looks flat with upturned edges. “A dinner plate”
Then the bible is wrong 100 times. No one's ever found the firmament, cause it doesn't exist
Earth is not a globe. REad Genesis..for starters
The mountains of evidence disagrees. Who cares about your intrrpretation of religious scripture when we have evidence and you don't?
@@Censoredbyyourcult What mountain of evidence?
@@benjy288 Mountains. Plural. All those that flat earthers ignore. The thousands of photos, videos and livestreams, physics experiments, measurements, seismology, the fact we can see satellites from Earth, the apparent retrograde motion of Mars as we pass it, the coriolis effect and artillery aiming manuals accounting for it etc etc and etc. I could go on and on and on. Flerfs ignore everything or attempt to counter with more conspiracies that shows they don't even understand what they're trying to debunk.