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Makita 40v 450mm Rear Handle Chainsaw Review. Is it the Best Cordless Chainsaw Yet?
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- Опубліковано 2 чер 2022
- There are at least 7 Makita 40v rear handle chainsaws of differing lengths and bar cover access methods. This video showcases the largest and most robust of them all, the Makita 40v UC013G 450mm Chainsaw.
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Here coming from 60 cc pro Husky and Stihl camp. The rip cutting of the big stump: that is impressive performance.
Mind you a big pertrol saw can be stalled easily. It depends on how the chain has been sharpened, how relatively short are the dust teeth.
I still wouldn't drag this to woods for a full work day with a backpack full of batteries - looking at the cut volume in the video a 8 Ah battery equals about half a tank of juice for 45 cc petrol saw.
From energy storage and efficiency standpoint the calculation would give similar result. A tank in smaller gas saw is about half a litre - or 17 MJ of energy.
Taken into account the thermal efficiency of a modern 2-stroke engine (on average use about 20 %, full throttle close to 40 %), giving ballpark 3 MJ mechanical output.
An 8 AH 40 V battery is roughly 1 MJ each, while the motor is about 90 % efficient. It should take 3 x 8 Ah batteries on this vs a tank of fuel on gas saw.
It 10:30pm here in NZ, Its the long weekend too. yeowwwwww i waited for this video...I need to start saving up for this big beauty
Este super .
Am rămas fără cuvinte.
Mult succes Makita.
Thought i recognised the opening credit of the log with your tools & Stuff sign.
Good old Katikati where i live and watching this video :)
Yes tools..........my man been waiting to see this ripper 👊🏼
Tools and Stuff, keep doing what your doing> Your the best.
Cheers man.
@@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL Agree, kinda addicted to your channel know I've bought into the 40v system
First tool that has me interested in the 40v line
EPIC!! Totally worth the wait :))
A good addition for the 40V Line
Having both Makita and Ego tools this look like a strong competitor to the Ego 18" chainsaw.
Awesome review, I love my 36v... I use it for cutting up pallets... And best for when I go get firewood, I use it to clear a path to get to the big logs that my Husky 562 & 572 destroys...
Don't buy into the hype! Your 36v is actually 42 volts fully charged. The new "40v" is also 42v fully charged. 2 18v packs is superior to a single 40v pack hands down for managing temps, amp delivery and battery longevity.
@@s13kuminachu Cool , lucky I already have the 36v one then...
Looks like a nice bit of Kit for Timber framing/Carpentry, Homeowners, Gardeners etc. Noise and ease of use(starting) definelty are big perks for the Electric/Cordless Saws. Runtime and lugging who knows how many Batteries about just doesnt cut it over the ol 2 Stroke goodness in the Forestry/logging department though. Shame Makita killed of the Dolmar 2 Strokes with 2022.
UC013G 🌪️💪
Thanks for the reviews
МАКИТА РУЛИТ✊
Also I have one of the original Stihl 36v chainsaw and was impressed by how long the battery lasted. It had a very thin chain Which made it very efficient. Sold it and waiting for this.
cordless are good for noise sensitive areas and small jobs but not serious forestry work
Oh the 80v is gonna be insane
Would love to see you compare the makita 40v to the Stihl MS220 which I've used before and was very impressed with. Great power and lasted very well.
I not remember exactly what model was but my brother have 2 makitas top handle and 2 hands, I have the Stihl 220C and the 161T, last year we set up both brands kind like in a contest but we both prefer the Stihl, however in his case the Makita is preferable because he is a construction contractor and use the batteries in other Makita tools.
Now you mention have used the Stihl 220C well try the MSA300 I have it also, the 220C kind feels like a toy they not comparable however it have a down side and it is the batteries even the best battery the AP500S is not up to this joy powerful machine, kind make me feel like a Mustang GT with gas tank in the reserve.
I have written to Stihl in Germany in regard to that, they unswer me saying they appreciate my choice for Stihl and they continue working in improving their machines and batteries, so I hope a longer lasting battery come up, on mean time sure i continue with this AP500S.
I wish you could plug this saws into a wall or use the battery option. I wonder if Makita makes an adapter for such a thing?
Would be awesome to see the comparison on the battery powered Stihl Chainsaws
Mine has been on order for awhile! Not available till August in Canada!
I have a 61cc makita that I was hoping to replace with a battery one, really going to need to see if the 40x2 comes out to serve around that size or if I’m cursed to always need to keep up with the small gas engine for the few times a year I need to break it out.
Worth staying awake for!
And sleepless nights owning one 😁
Thanks for sharing. Cheers
Bought one yesterday :)
Is the 2.5Ah BL4025 battery any good, seeing how lousily the 2Ah performed in the test?
I do not envy that cleanup! 😂. Anyway, it was nice running everything on the same 2.5 ah while it lasted.
Good job
I have the 18x2 saw. I hate the toolless tightening system, and it could use a bit more power. It seems like this saw addresses both of those complaints.
FINALLY!!! Woohoo!
40v xgt is the best one fast and powerfull looks wise 😁love the design update with magnesium/ metal and back to the 2 bolts for the bar never liked that plastic semi auto tensioner looks alot better and i would rather carry a spanner than be done for with that plastic wheel breaking 😂😂.. thanks for this one safe happy cutting 😁
Ahh man! Only comes with 14” bar here in the UK! That’s no use to me!! 😩
I have the LXT x2, it will however take a Stihl electric sprocket easily, that way a can change the bar/chain combo, for those that are interested. ✌️
Thanks for the extensive test bro! 😉👍
what do you mean, can you elaborate please?
Please more info on the Stihl gear on the LXT x2.
Ok, so you can remove the sprocket on the makita lxt double battery saw, Stihl also has battery saws, their electric sprocket will fit on the makita spindle, thus being able to run the Stihl chains. I run a little dime tip bar on my makita and it’s great for carving as it’s so stable, compared to a petrol saw jumping around. Hope that helps guys.
Very interesting! Can a ripping chain/bar be put on the Makita??? I'm curious if a guy could mill lumber with one of these.
Easy fix , buy another bar and chain , Makita uses Oregon bars .
Also remember that you need Class 3 safety gear , that are rated to chains speed up to 28m/s .
need more torque. in my opinion need upgrade to double 40v battery
Not showing up yet on the Aussie website. I think this would be the sweet spot. 40vx2 would be way to heavy, for me at least, especially with two 5aH batteries. And hey surely an XGT mower is round the corner aye?
Excuse me. Does Makita use a ratio gearbox or direct drive?
Any word on the XGT Articulating Hedge Trimmer?? The LXT 20” Articulating Hedge Trimmer is an awesome tool super light weight, but I want to go full XGT.
I've always wanted a chainsaw but I have 0 justification for getting one 😒
me too hahaha
Plant some trees
Just get it. Something will pop up.
@@Hand-Driven 🤣
@@arsecheese51 your not related to David Hammond are you?
What happened to the new XGT recip saw review that was teased a couple weeks ago?
It's coming...
I wish our xgt had the two bolts as well. USA xgt has the spin off
Both are available in the US now.
any idea if they are going to do the 40v chain saws in orange like the 18v option.
Yes they are.
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I’m looking forward to a 40 Volt X2, from makita. It is my understanding, they have a Petrol equivalent saw, in the works, and just waiting on the battery technology to run it? I don't know? They better come out with something, after having killed off their ‘DolKita’ line of saws! Peace 👍✌😊
A dual 40v battery chainsaw would be ridiculously heavy, which is probably the hangup. I bet they want it to weigh under 20lbs with batteries. But that saw would be insane, it could probably run a 30-36 inch chain.
Is the top handle 40V also considered 42cc equivalent, or just the full size rear handle?
The 40V top handle is said to be a 30cc equivalent.
Can you do the dtd172 vs the td172
Thats cool but i think that big xgt rear handle is overkill in terms of cost, battery cost, charging time and weight. A petrol saw at that size would be cheaper and lighter. The 36v rear handle is perfect though.
🔥👍
Good for a portable saw mill?
Same. That is my interest as well. I've doing a lot of research on the subject and feel like a band saw mill is the way to go. But maybe SOME chainsawing to compliment it. Dunno... Would really take a lot of batteries, it seems, to use cordless chainsaw exclusively.
any difference between the orange version and this model? they seem identical but wasn't sure if the color signaled it was made for a specific market
They Are the same.
@@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL That's good news! We don't have the 40v chainsaws in the USA yet, but was able to find a Japanese dealer to ship me one. Love it! Thanks for the review!!
I know petrol saws have the edge with power etc, but I save SO much money on fuel with these saws, they’re practically free! (Eventually)
I charge battery’s on solar n just have to buy bar oil, plus as a chainsaw carver there’s no fumes in my face, hell you can use them indoors! And will handle ice carving!
Hell yeah good for you I gotta a switch eventually and do the solar / battery option but a few years ago I didn't like the battery tools yet
How can I get 40v chainsaw in USA. Send me one .. I can't find any online with shipping to USA.
Yeah it's a kick in the nuts!
Does anyone know if there are .325 or 1/4" pitch sprockets available for these 40V saws yet?
.325 sprocket is listed on the website, no word on the 1/4" sprocket. I was disappointed to see that it was a different sprocket from the 18v saws
How many recharge cycles do these batteries hold up, before you'd have to buy a replacement?
2000
@Maciej_Jan_DlugoszDepende del cuidado que se le dé a las baterías, hay estudios en los cuales las celdas usadas con el máximo cuidado pueden mantenerse por encima de 5.500 ciclos.
Con buen cuidado me refiero a no descargarlas por debajo del 20-25%, cuando se terminen de usar almacenarlas en una carga media 30-70%, no someterlas a descargas excesivamente rápidas (siempre usar la batería más grande posible), etc.
Obviamente si siempre se usan hasta descargarlas al 0% y luego se cargan al 100 y se almacenan así, si se les da mucha caña haciendo que se sobrecaliente, etc, es cuando duran esos 600-800 ciclos, (La mayoría de la gente las usa así).
40 v 16 ich bar how much the price?
I have 254 and 353, both are awesome, i didnt want to buy the 40v models cuz they too expensive vor extra 4 volts 😂
It's the same voltage. 40v tools are 36v.
Does the Duc353 have a Torque mode also?
No.
Makita BL4080F 40V max XGT 8 Ah Lithium-Ion Battery is $334 on Amazon and the saw is $350 and you need two batteries to cut firewood so that comes to over $1000..
I already have 18V Makita batteries for my tools, so if I was to go electric I'd get the 36V chainsaw w/ a charger and 4 (5.OAh) batteries for $400 total..
But you get an obsolete system. The 18V battery family is almost 20 years old. So this XGT system is more expensive, but I'm planning at least for another 20 years with them (only household usage).
it can work with 4ah's
@@Sztrovacsek81Makita lxt 18 volt system is not obsolete and is in some ways better than xgt. I too thought it's miles ahead of lxt, but it's not.
Ide say stick with 2x18v 6amp the battery stay cooler splitting the cells
I’m complaining about how sharp the chains are ( what you told me to )
Just wondering why Makita didn't make a 500mm version. Would be a perfect competitor for the new flexvolt 500mm and 450mm. Oh well, at least it fits the 8ah and has plenty of power.
This will take 20 inch bar no problem and so will the 18x2 , I have a 20 inch bar on my Milwaukee chainsaw and it handles it just fine with .325 chain on it , I’d even bet these and the new dewalt would take a 24 inch bar and run them with very little issue other than perhaps shortening the runtime on the battery a bit , I personally want to get either the makita 40v or dewalt to try this myself but with the price of the echo 56v kit being only 299 that’s probably the one I’m gonna go with as my next battery saw . But if can find a deal on this one that’s in the same ballpark I’ll give this one a shot
There is a reason pro chainsaws don't use toolless clutch covers, far superior IMO
Whats the reason?
You should thest it with the 2.5Ah battery. You sad it's the most powerful one (or at least in 2.0, 2.5 and 4.0 group). I'm planning to buy a chainsaw, a driller and a lawn mower. If the chainsaw works well with the 2.5Ah battery, then it would be good for the lawn mower too (waiting for the 2x40V one). So I would buy 4x 2.5Ah batteries rather than 2x5Ah batteries. One pair could be left on charger, and there is a huge weight difference also!
Could you test this 2.5Ah battery on the little 40V chainsaw too? That would be enough for me, and I could buy a bare unit + 2.5Ah batteries.
Thanks!
4ah is of course stronger, at least on high power tools like a chainsaw
Forget 40v...make a 4x18 72v for us 18v lovers Makita! 😀
Has anyone found this in Australia? Or online with delivery to Australia? Total Tools has no idea when it'll be in stock.
Handy Hardware in NZ will ship it to you, but shipping will be rather pricey.
I am impressed! I will stick with gas mainly because of budget. I don't like the idea of heating up all those batteries either. With gas I am not worried about hurting the saw or battery from over heating. I am aware of all of the reasons people are switching, the main ones being not pulling the cord whilst in a tree, stale gas etc. The main reason people buy electric is because they do not know how to start a gas saw and they flood it repeatedly.
Do you ever worry about kickback when testing?
If you know how to use a chainsaw you should never be dealing with kickback, especially on a battery chainsaw.
Beratnya kira kira berapa kg
A 40v x2 (or 80v?) with 2x 8ah batteries would be pretty cumbersome
Yeah that would be far too heavy. Could do 2x 2.5ah though and still have the power.
how much the price?
Oh yes yes yes
Когда уже в России такая пила появится?
Do the Makita cordless leak bar oil? My Milwaukee is a POS.
never experienced any problem leaking on my Makita 36v
Where the sipro saw? Lol
Для такой пилы надо 8 амперную батарею, меньше нет смысла просто.
If we could just get them in the US..
In a town tree, you can almost guarantee metal is hidden in there somewhere.
Why are they so expensive?
💪🇺🇲💥
“You should have got a light post so you can tell how many cuts”
nice video but thats a CHAINsaw no blades there only chain and bar
Symantics. Capital letters and punctuation are also common place in sentence structure.
Learn to sharpen, go any xhainsaw store ask for tools with guide tool. Rhan it will be like new, if you hot plastic, dirt, rock, anuything this happens, dont forget it can jump into your face any moment or chain can brake and fly to leg cutting all
In the US they're shipping this with an 18inch bar.
Looks like petrol is still the way to go.
F stands for Fat as F*** 🤣 or at least that's what I tell people!
use metal detector :D
I think it's pretty weak honestly. I expected much more from 40v
The next one is a 50cc equivalent, this one is a 42cc equivalent.
@@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL ok this is interesting!
looks a lot like the stihl msa 300
This showed that batteries will not be replacing gas any time soon.
The 5 second power off is a deal killer for me. Bummer as I have 12 Makita 18V 5.0 batteries. I have a 6 year old Stihl cordless saw that needs to be replaced. I never had an issue with the STIHL’s battery going dead with a battery in it- 6 months later it still started right up with a trigger squeeze. I don’t understand Makita’s reason for putting an additional switch on some of their tools- chainsaws, routers etc…. The palm safety and trigger are plenty enough protection for false starts. Kid proofing? Take the friggin battery out…. Nice review though!!
Wtf is that thing - a goblin arrow?
they should have gone 18v 12ah battery with 21700 cells like milwaukee has, instead of 40v. And instead of 40v they should have made straight 80v for industrial machines, then 2x80v would beat any gasoline powered machine or engine that modern industry mostly needs. Massive fail from makita, massive fail investment in R&D, which should result in flop. But, the die hard fans r gonna buy makita even if it is NEW 28.7v tool haha
Makita never made a space allowance on their 36v tools for bigger batteries. They could make a 7ah 18v battery but that’s as big as it will ever get.
@@kizzjd9578
waitley has 9ah repacement battery for makita that is not fake and that it works fine. I need those 9ah for working lights, for chainsaw, for angle grinder, for big wrench, anything that actually needs longer battery or more power. Hope makita wont find them, sue them and close them. I found a guy that makes custom batteries with 21700 cells and 12ah but his work and materials are too expensive for me. I only send him if i need service for already existing makita batteries. Im pushing him to make me an outboard boat engine with makita batteries but he is refusing. That would be amazing, or a paint sprayer
Fail from makita? Have you used any of the new 40v tools or just saying that, everything cutting is a massive step up from the 18v range
What you describe would just have Makita copying Milwaukee's M18 and MX systems. Makita is able to do all the regular tools (impacts, drills, circs, recips, etc) and all the high power tools (concrete saws, demo hammers, etc) on the same platform.
Time will tell if people prefer to have everything on XGT or have both M18 and MX FUEL (with its AU $900 batteries!)
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Yes, i used 40v, some tools have significant step in power, some are fail. I couldnt praise more that 40v vacum cleaner, backpacks will be super amazing. Either way, with 80v wouldnt be fail, simple as that. You can decide to live in reality or to be a die hard fan, its ur money and ur choice
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