1 mare and 2 stallions together for first time as a trandem.
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This mare has 2 stallions at the same time either side of her for the first time in a 3 abreast (trandem). As these 3yo Friesian stallions will be taken out in company, we wanted to show that they could be driven not only in the company of a mare, but actually alongside her. The mare is also 3yo and is being brought into season by having 2 males in close proximity. We are driving all 3 of these horses in soft rubber bits. People sometimes ask whether stallions can be driven together - the answer is yes they can. They can also be driven with mares in a mixed sex team. With the right training, it is possible to drive stallions and mares together, even when the mare is in heat. The sex of the horse, whether it is entire or not, should not be a concern when driving if the horses have been trained properly. Driving mares and stallions together doesn't result in a carriage driving accident - as we show here, these horses behave even when standing still on a slack rein together and are responsive to the driver at all paces without the stallions trying to mount the mare. Also bear in mind they are all newly-broken to harness, all 3 years old and have never been driven as a 3 abreast before. We show that these horses will stand still, walk, trot and canter together and that they can be driven on a soft rein as well as being driven by a lady driver.
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I knew a woman who used to show her breeding stallion on a regular basis. Every time he let the the old fella out around a mare in season he got told to put it away and he always did. He respected her and had been taught right
Wow this shows that you do great training! Proof that stallions aren't absolutely crazy if you teach them to behave themselves- same goes for mares. Good job :)
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My hat's off to you sir. Wish more people here in the U.S. would work with their horses the way you do. Highly admirable job! :)
***** Thank you - its always good to hear what people think of what we do and I hope we can continue to inspire people towards better training of their horses.
+barryhook2 I echo what the other poster said originally. Your videos are always great to watch, wish we had more people like you out there helping educate people. Have a good one!
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Amen!
Simply Awesome. I have 6 stallions and I trust them all to listen to me and behave like gentlemen around mares or other stallions. I never have a problem. When around a mare in heat they get an erection but they still listen to me with only the lightest of bit. No reason for anything painful when they are trained properly.
Thank you for sharing your video.
What kind of breed?
I agree - I think in a lot of cases here all people think about is the "bad" behaviour exhibited by a stallion when he sees a mare and believe it is madness to drive them together, without thinking about what can be achieved with training. It is slightly more common to see 2 stallions driven together (e.g. Friesians on commercial work) and I think this is "accepted", as is driving 2 mares together, but as its not common to see mares and stallions together, people assume it can’t be done.
I love seeing videos like this show in stallions as just what they are: horses. So many people demonize stallions and keep them separate from other horses and that if anything is going to make them behave dangerously.
I suspect that stallions would be kept seperate either way, to keep them from humping all the mares as soon as they come into season.
Lol almost all the Stallions think about is trying to mate with a Mare; that's why they get separated.
Barry, you are such a true horseman. The very best, bar none. Your videos are entertaining and educational. Absolutely brilliant.
This is awesome. When a stallion is likely to be dangerous is when he is being denied breeding rights. These situations have led to major human injuries in the US. So you are doing very well. I am so impressed with the good manners of your vehicle drivers.
What beautiful horsemanship you have, you can tell these horse respect you and are well looked after. Its clear from the way you talk about them too you care a lot about them and have invested a lot of time into these horses, hats off to you sir! The equestrian world needs more people like you :)
I love how you just casually showed us that there stallions (looked under at there privates) lol
S. Lawrence the stallions are horny
S. Lawrence DONT FORGET THAT GELDINGS CAN DO THAT TOO ....
I really do not think I have ever seen a better, more thorough trainer! Absolutely wonderful, a real piece of equine art!
@Shyann Cody - he's just "showing off" to the mare. We had their teeth checked on arrival by our vet (about 3 weeks prior to this film being made) as the previous trainer had mentioned to the owner that they were shaking their heads about, but did not check their teeth. The day they arrived we had a look in their mouths (as we do all horses who arrive here) and noticed they had wolf teeth. When the vet removed them, in one horse both were ground off on one side, in the curved shape of a bit (when placed against a metal Liverpool, it fitted perfectly; no wonder that they had been shaking their heads with the other trainer!) If you look at the other videos in their playlist you can see him running with his head straight.
barryhook2 I just watched your video quite by chance and enjoyed it so much I subscribed. Hats off to you.
Ouch....That makes me hurt. Poor guys.
your fantastic =) its so good to see someone who doesn't treat stallions like monsters and doesn't put nasty painful bits in there mouths, your now my hero, carry on with the fantastic work
I also believe the standard of driving abroad in Europe is so much better than over here. I enjoy watching videos from foreign shows for example; plenty of 6+8-in-hand turnouts in the same ring, being driven at all paces, no grooms needed to walk at their heads to hold onto them, coachman capable of handling reins, whip+brake at the same time! People should be looking to improve how and what they drive, instead of just saying "That's impossible/crazy" merely because they can't do it themselves.
Fantastic horseman. Kindness with control means happy horse, happy owner.
The stallions are so well behaved its all down to your firmness and kindness and they happily respond to your voice commands so .lovely and all are happy doing their job keep up the good work barry
A true gentleman amazing trainer absolutely a pleasure to watch you with the horses 🦄🦄
This ides that stallions need chains and huge bits is just becuase people coop them up in stals where a ton of frustration builds up (That goes for any horse, especially the young ones, that don't get enough time outside and exercising).
People don't train them properly even though stallions can be just as sweet and obediant as any other horse. Even with a mare in season present. And this video is a great example of that.
I love fresians. They are gorgeous horses.
MegaNatasha13 i have one
Love the way they weren't bothered by the pan at the start
You treat the horses with amazing respect, which is rare to see when it comes to Stallions & Mares in heat. Love watching your videos.
Rubber bit, and NO whip beating (only used above head for noise) all voice command, traditional methods work best, and thank you, this violent beating them into submission with never works correctly, but training with proper training works best. and your video shows this.
Sir, you got a new fan in Milan, Italy.
Hats off.
In response to SamIAm (there was no reply button or way to tag you) from four days ago who said "Although this is surfacely admirable, there is obvious tension between the 3 horses and not very humane, or sensible.....what exactly are you proving by doing this to those horses??" -- did you even watch the video? Seriously. He clearly explains the EXACT reasons why he is doing this and it's quite simply for the safety of handlers and other horses in the future. Also, I see very little tension between these three horses. I see a mare in season in between two young stallions, acting just as one would expect them to when well trained.
Thank you - we do have a chariot so future videos might well see it featured more! Over here 3 horses in front of each other in a line is a randem (single, tandem, randem, quadrem) - the term trandem is used for 3 horses alongside each other (also called a 3 abreast).
That's so great how you hook them up.with 2 poles 3 single trees.and the lines.how do you attach the poles to your wagon? I would like to do this.i have three wagons of different sizes. Thanks I watch every episode over ans over. Now using rubber bits,wow what a difference.I have saddle shop and still train my own horse's bred and raised on the Snake river breaks.trained ranch horse's all my life.this so great of you to video it helps me train them to drive then,agian thank you. Davy Jones/Packers supply Starbuck.Wa. 99359
here here I take my hat off to you.
You, sir, are awesome.
Would love a chance to learn from you! I don't drive, but training like this can go across the board!
Respect. Evidence of what thoughtful training can produce. Calm focussed horses willing to do the job. Brilliant! I'm going to get mine driving eventually. He shall be coming to you!
You got the biggest stones I have ever seen in a human being.
I love your training. True horseman!
i love the clop clop.
7:12 You are my hero! Awesome example !
Wow! Very nicely done mister. So damn trained well. I understand that stallions are hard to break, but u got it!
Hadie Grove Thanks - we don't find stallions any harder to break than mares or geldings but I think sometimes they get a bad reputation for being "difficult" due to some handlers lacking confidence around them, or people avoiding them "in case they go nuts". I have heard of many livery yards who won't allow stallions, when often it is the mares who cause more problems! We have stallions, mares and geldings in for training at the same time with no issues - as long as you put the time into training them, there is no reason that they cannot be well-behaved even when around mares.
Nicely said. I just heard that they're supposed to be hard to break from childhood memories from watching a film, 'doctor doolittle 3'. But now I understand. Your very intelligent with types of horses and how you think that their brain works.
I always drove my percheron stud with mares and other studs and he was just the perfect gentlemen always in his wrok clothes and he knew it . sure miss that big guy ..
The mare looks exactly like my old horse!!!! Beautiful!!!!!!! Very nicely trained
Hahahah, she’s having such a great day.
Absolutely amazing training.
thats INCREDIBLE! GREAT WORK!
people say stallions are mad, I think mares are worse!😂
She looked a bit flirty to me!
A master of your profession is a joy to watch. Thank you so much for sharing your videos. (new to your channel) blessings from Ontario, Canada
You are brilliant with these horses. So few out there that understand stallions.
your bomb proofing is peerfect,
Hayley Ward . td
Holy crap, this is impressive!!!
Great video! I've subscribed and looking forward to learning more from you. I have a well traveled Morgan mare who has logged before - I'm thinking about getting a Morgan stallion to team with her and possibly for breeding. Lots of single track wood logging here in Eastern Ontario...
Sir you are amazing with horses and people need to watch this and learn about what is really going with there horses truly inspiring
Good job . They look great
Thank you, been struggling whether to use them or not
Major respect!!!
Thank you for sharing, and they say it can't be done. Well you just made that into a falsehood. I enjoy watching all of your stuff. Such a great service to the horse who can now be used for years, happy, safe, and dependable. Hat off to you.
Nice job. If more people would train their studs especially like this, it would make them way more safe to be around!
your horses are all beautiful and you are a great trainer
This was a beautiful video
Bloody brilliant work. :D
Yes I've heard of that term to describe it - historically there were different names for the same setup, or parts of harness; these could vary from county to county. Some phrases were more commonly used than others; some died out entirely. I'm 65 now and when I was in my 20s I worked with a man who was in his 80s - he said the omnibuses that worked in Manchester were drawn by 3 horses rather than 2 and therefore the setup became known as a "Manchester team" - that's when I first heard the term.
great video, I have never seen 3 abreast before! Here in France it's really common to see stallions and mares driving together - as you say, it should never be an issue if the horses are correctly trained - seems a shame that stallions have a bad reputation in the UK, come to an equestrian event in France and the stallions are only identifiable by their physical characteristics, rarely by their behaviour... the hormonal mares on the other hand are far easier to spot...!
love it wedding tackle out showing off but not a problem great work as all ways.
Amazing 💎😍
I like the sound so much 🔝
i totally agree with what you mean when it comes to the voice i have a warmblood 15hh jumper and i can get him to come from stand to walk then trot then canter then back to trot then back to walk with my voice, we are still working on the walk to stand! but apart from stand we do it all with voice! :)
Very very nice driving with these horses that's how it should be always
That's impressive!
Hello, are you able to keep stallions in the same paddock as geldings? I don't like the practice of isolating them.
Thank you for your videos, they're very informative.
Depends on the horses. Personally we have and know others who do. A stallion is still 'just a horse' at the end of the day!
I have used ur videos to help me start my young pony in harness(and teach myself as i havent been around driving horses) and everything do has helped an extreme amount. Thank You
Thanks for this Barry. My best hope for a matched pair is my stallion and a mare. Ironically my biggest worry is not my stallion being a tart but my mare! Any advice for a mare who is a bit of a sassy thing squealing and carrying on when she's out of season?
he knows his business!
+barryhook2, At first, where do You live ? Is that allowed to walk with horses in the roads ?
The mare like the bigger stallion 😆
''A rose between two thorns!''- wow, well done. I was riding an in season mare, and a ridden Arab [stud] stallion appeared and went crazy. At Young's Brewery, I asked if the horses were stallions as they held their heads so crestily, the men said ''no, but we are!'' :)
Really awesome!! Nice behaviour on the stallions, very well trainned. Could you sometimes record on video some of your hands work? Thanks, really learning a few tips with your videos. I train horses to be ridden and very few horses I haved backed or trainned for carriage, but one day i think I will have my on pair of horses for carriage. 😁
great job
I have a question. Does Barry always drive in a rubber bit or will he sometimes use a butterfly or liverpool? Does he use a mullen mouth or a break? Also, how long is a horse in training to get them as desensitized and listening as well as these fellows?? It took me a solid 20-30 days to get my 3 year old really listening to my voice commands and to harness and ground drive. I started him when he was 2 driving. Since I don't currently have a cart that will fit him. I hooked him to a pallet and he drags that around for now. Thanks! Love Barry's videos. They were very helpful when I hit a bump in the road with my colt.
Hi, thanks for your questions; always good to hear what people think of our videos! We drive every horse in a flexible rubber bit (straight bar with a slight curve to the mouthpiece) regardless of circumstances i.e. whether they are "fresh" ones in for breaking or whether they are reschooling cases. The only time we would ever use a butterfly/liverpool is if the owners requested it (if they want to go in the show ring for example and don't want to "rock the boat" by using a rubber bit) but in those cases we would still do all the training and driving in a rubber bit, and only put them in the other bits right at the end of training/when the owners came to drive. We would also wrap the metal mouthpieces in latex, again unless the owners asked us not to. However we always show the horses working in a rubber bit first to prove that they go perfectly happily and can be controlled just in rubber; some owners can see what we mean and then choose to stay in rubber, others can't and still ask us to put them in metal bits. Most horses are with us for approximately 6 weeks - retraining cases sometimes take a few weeks longer depending on the issue.
+barryhook2 Awesome. Thank you!
That is mental(in a good way). I've seen problems just riding rigs and mares in season when they are at opposite ends of a field never mind tied up together.
Is this an unusual situation?
What kind of feed u use alfalfa?
Awesome 👍
wtf was up with the intro XD
nice job :)
just a quick question...what are them collar type things round there necks?
+sam thomas Hi, you can find out more about the neck collars we use in this video: ua-cam.com/video/cUTyUprBl_Y/v-deo.html
You have tariffing horsemanship I must say but might I ask why you threw metal or aluminum thing between the horses. Were you testing them or something.
why do some people say that it's bad to canter a horse on a hard road. i heard that it's bad for their legs but you cantered them on the road so i'm assuming it's fine (because you sound like you know what your doing) is it okay to canter a horse on a hard road surface
Why do their heads go to the left most of the time?
What an amazing man
What one is the mare
Beautiful.
Hermosísimo!!!!!!
Absolutely great video, I have never seen somebody doing this. The Colosseum and a chariot would have been the right place for you!
A trandem is 3 horses in front of each other, as is a quadrem with 4 horses (which I have seen only once).
This is beautiful very well handled stallions and mare too
Especially for 3 year olds.
They behave very good around the mare
They try but she's saying no.
They aren't able too but without equipment definitely a foal could happen :P
Beautiful!!
Looked good# did you use a bit in their house. No offence I couldnt.p]p understand
Great!
Sooooo cool
Well done. Breaking is the wrong word you don't break but work in partnership. No violence kindness
5:40 as an american I really love how you said "educated"
thats really cool :)
Amazing
Awesome:)
to control either one stallion or more than one horse at once take a tremendous amount of skill but to control two stallions, a mare, three horses and a carriage thats just showing off 😅😅😅 no but seriously I dont think I can handle that amount of skill
Well behaved stallions not all of are like that good job
I understood the term used for three horses abreast was a Manchester team
U are fantastic I need to be around people like u I can't stand closed minded people I need to share this to few fools that need to take notes rather than give me n earache bout my stallion
You can voice train a stallion to keep himself intact around other horses by backing up your voice commands with a whip poke under the rear belly....not a lash just a poke strong enough to keep him intact. Lady I know wd ride her stallion and trained him to stay intact with voice commands and a poke or smack in that area and he listened and learned easily.