It seems less that he's surprised or stumped, and more that you're intelligent enough to offer him a compelling alternate perspective, and he's at least willing to consider it.
This is the kind of casual, almost unconscious jackassery I follow this channel for. Not because I like you, because I think you're an asshole, and it's funny to see how self-righteous a true asshole can be at times.
Courier 6: "We will reroute the energy to all areas equally, just in case the Legion takes over Hoover dam" Arcade: "That's a valid point. Okay fine" ===5 minutes later=== Arcade: *"YOU ACTIVATED ARCHIMEDES??!?!"*
Considering the frequency of which Arcade tries to "ackshually" the mailman, I'm surprised he managed to keep his identity under wraps for this long. Dude practically had a "I'm not a normal doctor" sign plastered on his back.
He's a Follower of the Apocalypse; I assume most people, NCR citizens mostly, are used to tuning their like out as little more than 'radical anarchists.' He's also a Follower, which is a group of people known for being very smart so others likely just chalk it up to that.
Every other doctor in the setting has that plastered on them lol, in some way or another Doubt most people would care how weird he is if he does his job well.
@@realname8362 lol seriously the most normal one in NV is doc mitchell and he's capable of bringing someone shot in the brain back to life. the one at the clinic does freakin implants, and even the minor doctor in novac is at least sketchy as fuck. I like to think Mitchell has experience with bulletwounds because he might be used to idiots fooling around with guns in his old vault, then idiots murdering to survive with guns out in the wasteland
@@realname8362 Especially the Doc at the beginning, but he already tells you he came from a vault, so I guess it wasn't that big a secret. How he was so good at getting all the bullet fragments out of your brain though... hoowee. I guess the Courier can top that though if they have high enough Medicine and Luck and excise Caesar's tumor.
compared to the one with a giant mohawk, Arcade is the more normal looking doctor. and his "im trying to figure out how to make stimpacks out of cactus!" makes him sound like a starry eyed kid rather than a jaded academic.
Arcade, I understand why you hate Caesar, but maybe you should wait until we're not within earshot of all of his men to start spouting our opinions of him.
Especially when we are in the heart of the Fort and he's literally right on the other side of this entry way and he most definitely heard you. Lets go before he crucifies us both. Or do you have a plan B because I hear movement from the other side. Stultus.
@@Xx_Tuberculosis_xX "But where is the lamb for this burnt offering". The story of Abraham and Isaac is that Abraham was miraculously given a son, even though he and his wife were old and supposedly infertile. But then God tells Abraham to prepare Isaac as the next sacrifice in the burnt offerings. So when the two are hiking up the mountain, Isaac asks Abraham where the lamb is for the sacrifice. Happy ending, though - the demand was a test of Abraham's faith. An angel appears to stop the sacrifice and guides the two to a lamb caught in a bush.
Arcade: *yelling about their leader being a big dick faux-Roman prick who's full of brahmin shit and then declaring that he will be directly opposing their interests* Guard: "Ave, true to Caesar :)"
it's possible take Early bird and horder traits when requirements arn't filled would be -2 And nector -2 moonshine -2 lobotomie goggles -2 for a total of -8 so in you have 9 intelligence you could recruite him with 1 INT and then take the int mod for +1 permeant int and then be at 10 also the traits can be removed or replaced at the sink
@@thegriningnumber12 I tried decreasing my INT through items to pass the check before, and it didn't work. Alcohol and lobotomy gear. The check seems to rely on your base INT, rather than what modifiers you have on it.
2:27 "He's a tyrant. The bad kind." That's a neat little detail that really shows the writers of this game know their roman lore, and it also shows how much of a know-it-all Arcade is. "Tyrant" was not a perjorative word in roman antiquity. They were, in essence, autocratic dictators, bound by no law but their will. This meant that the pendulum could swing either way. You had insane psychopathic rulers, who were feared by the populace and drove their nation down the drain; rulers who were loved by all and under whose watchful gaze, the nation flourished; but frequently it was a mixed bag of meh.
He was probably specifically thinking about the office of Dictator during the Republic. The Republic had laws in place even against the Consuls, especially their veto inbetween eachother. The Dictatorship was an emergency office used during times of crisis so that whoever assigned it could get the job done and couldn't be punished afterwards.
I thought this could be him excusing some of the actions of the enclave, but your right it could also be in reference to the origins of the word and roman history
The ancient Greek world was filled with tyrants. An example of good tyrant was Pisistratus, under whose rule the Homeric epics were given written form for the first time.
@@frankhorrigan1508 I mean, a bit unfair considering that bethesda's slop usually takes like 5 years to make and isn't nowhere near as enjoyable as New Vegas
Lol all you have to do to reassure him of your “questionable actions” is just say woah it’s cool man I did it because i hate the legion. For all of his intelligence he really lets his emotions get in the way
People with high cognitive intelligence often neglect developing their emotional intelligence. Emotions aren't always intuitive, and mastering them is usually painful. Basically it's the same problem a lot of beautiful people have growing up: if I can skate by on my looks, why bother studying? I've also met people who had high emotional intelligence but low cognitive intelligence. They operate almost entirely on instinct. It's an incredibly rare person that strives to fully develop all aspects of their body/mind.
@@stm7810 Depends on exactly how you're "anti-fascist". Typically, those groups were composed of communists, who are just as bad, if not worse. But any normal, law-abiding Western citizen should be expected to be anti-fascist in simple principle. One doesn't have to be a radical extremist ideologue of the opposite variety in order to oppose fascism. Especially seeing as Hitler and the USSR had a non-aggression pact at the start of WW2.
@Andrew Ryan I'm surprised that the Courier can't respond by stating that he wouldn't have been kept around if he was a misogynistic, rapist, and slaver POS like the Legion is.
All I could think was "dude, keep your fucking voice down. We're stood in the middle of a Legion camp, and the man you're criticizing is less than a hundred metres away. He might even be able to hear you from here. Are you trying to get us both killed?"
@Andrew Ryan Raul is one of my favorite characters but I hate this quote because people take this out of context as him being pro-Legion. He's saying Legion is better than murderous raider anarchy, not that it's better than House or NCR, or even that Legion is laudable- just that it's better than literal lawless wastes.
@Andrew Ryan right. Maybe some sort of order was restored by the legion. But that is NOT what motivates Caesar. His whole backstory reeks of megalomania, and everyone in the legion is there to serve him, not the people of the wasteland. Heck, he calls himself Caesar because he also wants to be a "great man" recorded in history, not just some scribe dedicated to helping the wasteland. Restoring order in the wasteland is just a fortunate side effect of his plans, that he doesn't really care about. So calling him out on his bullshit is still valid.
A high intelligence Courier is the perfect contrast to Ganon. Both demonstrating high intelligence but while Ganon lets his morality come in conflict with his research, the Courier lets his cold pragmatism come in conflict with his morality.
Reminds me of Doctor Who when the Doctor travels with someone just as smart as them and they humble them a lot. Gannon frequently thinks they are smarter than everyone and it’s probably odd for him to be shown that his way of thinking isn’t the only intelligent reasoning out there.
Gannon is my favorite follower along with Raul. Both have a lovely story arch about coming to terms with their past and what they want to do for the future. For Gannon its what he wants to do to help the Mojave: does he rally the remnants and don his father's power armor, or stay behind to help Freeside? Raul meanwhile has to come to terms with his truly venerable age; a prewar ghoul living long past his time, a long trail of loss behind him and a future he is unsure if he has a purpose in. Does he pick up his tools and age as gracefully as one can in his situation, or does he down the ammo belt and poncho and ride once more, a fire rekindle burning to help the wasteland? Both also bring up interesting points about the Mojave. Gannon shows just how much people are struggling and the issues present with the NCR while acknowledging all the good they do and can do for the region. Raul has been around long enough to remember a time before Caesar and can vouch for the fact that he has helped make the east safer despite all of the blood spilt in his name. In the end both are top tier companions.
personally i prefer boone for being dark and broody while having a very dark story with the legion. the game sometimes doesn't get as dark as it can considering we are in a post apocolytic society and boone is a great example of how evil the legion can be. also i like veronica simply for being the type of person to 1 v 1 a deathclaw in melee and hold her own
@@Artemas_16 God I wish that was a random event; if you have Cass, let there be a small chance after binge-drinking you either hallucinate or black out and stumble upon a bandit camp. Something like this anyway.
@@StealthTheFoxz sounds like a good idea. Sadly, Obsidian didn't have enough time to implement more random events, like it was in Fallout 3. But there was ability to drink so much you would wound up marrying Cass in the church, with King being preacher. That function then got but from the game.
Next scene both courier and Arcade both are nailed to the cross. Courier: Jeez, Arcade, couldn't you like wait until, I don't know, after we leave Legion's camp before criticizing them?
I kinda wish there was a way to talk him down about ARCHIMEDES. 1) [Speech] Helios One's power is already missing from people's lives, and choosing an orbital laser cannon over free power is not going to do anything negative to people. Since there's already no power from Helios, there's no people dependent on it. This choice is not a negative, it's a alternative positive. 2) [Science] ARCHIMEDES is a unique piece of scientific achievement. Power can be gotten from elsewhere, orbital ion cannons can not. Not to mention solar output is absolutely pathetic compared to hydroelectric or, I dunno, stable portable nuclear fusion that's widely available. 3) [Survival] There are other things than Legion, House and NCR out there. The Chinese may very well still be kicking around. Big Empty is full of horrifying experiments. The tunnelers are closing in on Mojave. Hell, even Deathclaws took over the best route to Vegas. Having an orbital cannon to protect the residents would be much better than just giving them some power from an old-ass solar plant 4) [Repair] It's not like Helios one would even produce all that much power. The plant is in bad shape, and putting it to full use would just speed up the deterioration. There's no solar technicians or know-how how to fix it. The closest available ones are huddled in a bunker, and would also rather go for the orbital cannon. The plant is just well off enough to keep the weapon going, everything else is hopeful at best. 5) [Intelligence] Right now, the only reason NCR has not sent anyone smarter than Fantastic is because they assume the plant to be dead. It's a fortress for them, not a power plant. If Fantastic gets it working a little bit, then it's just a bonus for them. But fixing the power plant will make them notice. And if they notice that the plant is now working, and they are not the ones receiving that free power, they will definitely send someone capable to re-route it. And hell, they will find ARCHIMEDES, and definitely go for it over power. You'd end up with the cannon operational, and in NCR hands. Arming ARCHIMEDES will just make them think the plant's dead, since they don't see where the output goes. And I'm much better at choosing the targets for it. 6) [Barter] Free power to the Freeside wouldn't be an economical boon. It will just serve as a lure to the less fortunate, overwhelming the streets outside of the Strip with even more desperate people. And it would also attract those people, who'd want to monopolize said free power. You'd be ending up causing more suffering in the long run by taking that option. 7) [Energy Weapons] Jesus Christ, Arcade, did you even listen to me? A. Personal. Orbital. Ion. Cannon. How are you not hard right now?
I feel like the seventh option would be more persuasive to a Brotherhood of Steel follower, Veronica notwithstanding. Arcade doesn't come off as a technophile, but I do understand where you came from given that he is former Enclave.
8) [Lockpick] If we do spread this electricity around, how are you going to keep it secure? All the power distribution mechanisms are pre-war, meaning they depend on law enforcement to prevent all unauthorized access. Now, all this "free power" would just be free power to the first guy who figures out how to tap into the grid and leech it all for himself. 9) [Perception] Spreading the power around would cause unintended consequences. I saw a lot of now-unpowered security systems, alarms, lights, and god knows what else. If you just start powering the whole grid again, all of that will go off. Best case scenario, is that it short-circuits. Worst case scenario, is that there's an unsent nuke somewhere, that was primed to go. 10) [Intelligence] That power won't really do anything for the people. Since there's no power to begin with, all the household appliances and other electrical things were scrapped, traded and bartered away long ago. What people really need is clean water, security and food. And while you can use power to do that, there's no easily available pumps, water purifiers, turrets and hydroponics to convert said power into useful things. It'd just light up a few houses at night, at best. Also, 5) should be changed to [Sneak]
You're trying to reason with an extremely intelligent peace chasing do-gooder why a new weapon of mass destruction needs to be completed. Theres no argument where Arcade accepts that. Especially since the political situation in and around Vegas is so fragile. If the NCR captures it, they use it to clamp down on everyone and secure the mojave through force. If House gets it, he uses it when needed to kill everyone who opposes his dream. Followers would probably destroy any way to mark targets, wasting it. Legion would nuke anything Ceasar doesn't like. God forbid any street gangs or raiders get ahold of it. The Brotherhood would use it to make the situation untenible for NCR and anyone else unfortunate enough to exist around them, if the NCR even manages to not put 2+2 together. TLDR: There is no way, ever, someone as intelligent and ethical as Arcade would ever allow a weapon of mass destruction to come online if he had a chance to stop it. He knows the wider implications, and the risks, and that it may exist well past when he and the courier are gone.
Arcade's idealistic nature rubs off with the Courier's pragmatic nature, it's cool to see them engage each other with the ups and downs of each of their ways and ideals.
@@JmdMagic I'm just like Forest Gump from book ! "I have iq-74 which makes everything clear to me" same to me but i'm not Forrest Gump and my iq is a way higher but still - everything clear to me...everything
Redundancy is the most logical choice in the game that I can think of. You're in the middle of a guerilla war and the main fighting is over the main power source in the area. I can't help but choose it every time.
There was meant to be some Legion areas you could visit in Arizona, but it was cut for time. Also, the Colorado they're referring to is the river, not the state, so I don't think anything was changed per se besides cutting Legion locations.
@@mattthedoormat I don't think it was cut entirely due to time constraints. Lots of stuff got cut to make it fit on consoles, one of the many crimes perpetrated against the PC master race.
@@desertdude540Considering New Vegas is barely playable without constant patching and bugfixing, I'd blame it on the engine and not on consoles. But what do I know, I'm not a redditor like you.
1:19 Is Arcade... the second Christian person in all of post war America that we've seen, or did he just find a bible somewhere and memorize it so thoroughly that he can make a recontextualized and applicable quotation?
Presuming you are referring to Joshua Graham as the first (in which case, don't forget about Daniel also), I believe that several Enclave folks in FO2 make vaguely Christian references (in the same way that modern politicians do so). Also, however, the symbol of the Followers of the Apocalypse is a cross - while it is not explicitly a Christian organization, it seems reasonable, given their extensive library and their gravitation toward religious sites (taking an interest in what goes on in the Cathedral, settling the Old Mormon Fort), that some might embrace rational Christianity. Also, presumably some others drifted north and east away from New Canaan after it was burned.
There are a lot of Mormons in the new Vegas lore. The followers of the apocalypse is likely a Mormon missionary group given they are setup in Old Mormon fort. In general Mormonism in America is very prevalent in Utah so that is why there are a lot of Mormons in New Vegas.
That speech check in HELIOS ONE reminded me how cranking intelligence to 10 means my character is smart. Damn, he's smarter than me cause I didn't even think of shit like that
It's so simple, but that speech check is probably the most impressive dialogue option I've ever seen in a game. It's logical and perfectly articulated, it's not something most people could think up, and it's clearly something that would persuade the other person. Most of the time in F:NV the checks feel forced and awkward, like there's no way the other person would actually change their mind because of it (Lanius), but that one is nothing at all like that, it works beautifully and organically. It makes me want to see a game where you can just talk and think like that, all the time.
Man I can't believe I went through nearly the entire game before I noticed him chilling at the old mormon fort. I'm about to start a new playthrough just to pal around with good ol' Arcade.
Edit: NOT Tyrants, but Dictators. Tyrants weren't objectively bad in Rome. It simply meant that you had absolute political authority. It was an emergency measure with a time limit, or in some cases, a recognition of leadership if someone was made Tyrant for life
@@TrueFlameslinger I'm not denying the concept of the so-called "good dictator", Looking back at this comment it seemed amusing to say at the time... I appreciate the info you shared though. so thank you for that... I simply thought the way Arcade's opinion on the matter seemed very one-sided to me due to the video's nature not giving the larger picture of the situation which since i didnt make it as far in NV to experience the conversation with eithe arcade or ceasar...
@@TrueFlameslinger Edit: Tyrant and dictator are two completely different terms with two completely different definitions. Nobody even talked about dictators, you just swapped the terms and tried to define the term tyrant keeping in mind definition of dictator that is almost an anthonym from some perspective for tyrant. I haven't seen such useless and misleading commentary in a long time for sure
@ulaslolatitudinarian9860 Yes, I misattributed the classical definition of Dictator to Tyrant, that's why I put an edit in clarifying that it was dictators, not tyrants
That “Ave, true to Caesar” right after Arcade finished talking sounded a little sneery. I would’ve killed every legion member within a 5 mile radius for that.
If anything, Arcane is the dumbest character in whole nv who pretends to be smart. His complusive "I know everything better" Character is really annoying, never do anything with him unless I have to.
No, it's just that he can't understand basic logic and draw his own conclusions by connecting the dots himself and all he does is self ironically complain, an annoying trait one does see all to commen nowadays by the woke community@@Namrec_Molai
I just imagine Arcade pulling Courier over in a huddle in the last one and going "I know we should be considerate about some people, but I think Caesar is a lost cause. So why don't we just cut our losses and get outta here!"
The Canonically Walking Doomday (the courier) debating on the morals of Caesar is funny af to me. Everywhere Courier Six goes, MASSIVE changes happens, be it political or geographical
I like how your companions have these unique dialogue options, I don’t like how they talk to you like they are the ones in charge, I’m the MC and I’ll decide what happens not you thanks
Wait, let me get this straight. There's a Ganon in the arcade? And he's being conquered by Wisdom and not Courage? _I feel a disturbance in the TriForce....._
I love showing off my superior intellect to Arcade because he always seems stumped by it.
argue with him to redistribute power equally, then space laser go brrr haha
It seems less that he's surprised or stumped, and more that you're intelligent enough to offer him a compelling alternate perspective, and he's at least willing to consider it.
@@CarpeVerpa whereas most wasteland dwelling hick raiders would say “die, thinker!” Or something I imagine
@@CarpeVerpa arcade being reasonable enough to see another persons perspective, a rarity hoth in the wasteland and in the fallout fandom lmao
This is the kind of casual, almost unconscious jackassery I follow this channel for. Not because I like you, because I think you're an asshole, and it's funny to see how self-righteous a true asshole can be at times.
"Are you crazy?"
"[Intelligence 10] No"
"A fair point"
Courier 6: "We will reroute the energy to all areas equally, just in case the Legion takes over Hoover dam"
Arcade: "That's a valid point. Okay fine"
===5 minutes later===
Arcade: *"YOU ACTIVATED ARCHIMEDES??!?!"*
Courier: ":3"
woopsie :ppp
Courier: [Terrifying Presence] "Sweet Mother, sweet Mother, send your child unto me, for the sins of the unworthy must be baptized in blood and fear."
“[Intelligence 10] I quicksaved before I did it so we’re cool dude.”
Oopsie daisy.
Considering the frequency of which Arcade tries to "ackshually" the mailman, I'm surprised he managed to keep his identity under wraps for this long.
Dude practically had a "I'm not a normal doctor" sign plastered on his back.
He's a Follower of the Apocalypse; I assume most people, NCR citizens mostly, are used to tuning their like out as little more than 'radical anarchists.' He's also a Follower, which is a group of people known for being very smart so others likely just chalk it up to that.
Every other doctor in the setting has that plastered on them lol, in some way or another
Doubt most people would care how weird he is if he does his job well.
@@realname8362 lol seriously the most normal one in NV is doc mitchell and he's capable of bringing someone shot in the brain back to life. the one at the clinic does freakin implants, and even the minor doctor in novac is at least sketchy as fuck. I like to think Mitchell has experience with bulletwounds because he might be used to idiots fooling around with guns in his old vault, then idiots murdering to survive with guns out in the wasteland
@@realname8362 Especially the Doc at the beginning, but he already tells you he came from a vault, so I guess it wasn't that big a secret. How he was so good at getting all the bullet fragments out of your brain though... hoowee.
I guess the Courier can top that though if they have high enough Medicine and Luck and excise Caesar's tumor.
compared to the one with a giant mohawk, Arcade is the more normal looking doctor. and his "im trying to figure out how to make stimpacks out of cactus!" makes him sound like a starry eyed kid rather than a jaded academic.
Arcade, I understand why you hate Caesar, but maybe you should wait until we're not within earshot of all of his men to start spouting our opinions of him.
AWAE, TRUE TO CAESAR.
Yeah they might glare at him in an empty way
Especially when we are in the heart of the Fort and he's literally right on the other side of this entry way and he most definitely heard you. Lets go before he crucifies us both. Or do you have a plan B because I hear movement from the other side. Stultus.
He does it I sell him to Caesar
Ah yes let's stand here while the game pauses to dump exposition onto you because this is 11/10 writing 😂😂😂
I love how Arcade actually has to stop himself before he says "The Enclave" before correcting to "The Government." Such a good little detail.
Nice little reference to the story of Abraham and Isaac...
@@lexsamreeth8724Mind explaining that for me?
@@Xx_Tuberculosis_xX "But where is the lamb for this burnt offering". The story of Abraham and Isaac is that Abraham was miraculously given a son, even though he and his wife were old and supposedly infertile. But then God tells Abraham to prepare Isaac as the next sacrifice in the burnt offerings. So when the two are hiking up the mountain, Isaac asks Abraham where the lamb is for the sacrifice.
Happy ending, though - the demand was a test of Abraham's faith. An angel appears to stop the sacrifice and guides the two to a lamb caught in a bush.
Correction, a ram is caught in the bush. The reference to a lamb is actually to the coming Messiah, the Lamb of God.
I like the "Where is the lamb for this burnt offering?" while you can hear somebody having a really good time.
Sounded more like someone beating the hell out of a woman to me.
The nod at the praetorian at the end is golden.
"We'll be off now"
Ha was going to comment about that.
Arcade: *yelling about their leader being a big dick faux-Roman prick who's full of brahmin shit and then declaring that he will be directly opposing their interests*
Guard: "Ave, true to Caesar :)"
@@geemcspankinson Preaetorian: We are not paid to think. Stay true to kisar.
It lets you know all about what fate awaited Gannon for that playthrough
Imagine recruiting arcade with low INT and then immediately raising your INT to high Heaven
Its not easy task if u rly go from Int 1
@@skell6134 You can pass the low INT speech check with debuffs from alcohol and Fire Ant nectar!
it's possible take Early bird and horder traits when requirements arn't filled would be -2
And nector -2 moonshine -2 lobotomie goggles -2 for a total of -8 so in you have 9 intelligence you could recruite him with 1 INT and then take the int mod for +1 permeant int and then be at 10 also the traits can be removed or replaced at the sink
@@thegriningnumber12 "I'm drunk. Can you help me with... sober stuff?"
@@thegriningnumber12 I tried decreasing my INT through items to pass the check before, and it didn't work. Alcohol and lobotomy gear. The check seems to rely on your base INT, rather than what modifiers you have on it.
Arcade: "Where is the lamb for this burnt offering..." 😔
*aggressive moaning in the background*
2:27 "He's a tyrant. The bad kind."
That's a neat little detail that really shows the writers of this game know their roman lore, and it also shows how much of a know-it-all Arcade is.
"Tyrant" was not a perjorative word in roman antiquity.
They were, in essence, autocratic dictators, bound by no law but their will. This meant that the pendulum could swing either way.
You had insane psychopathic rulers, who were feared by the populace and drove their nation down the drain; rulers who were loved by all and under whose watchful gaze, the nation flourished; but frequently it was a mixed bag of meh.
A mixed bad of meh? Why start talking about democracy in the middle of this?
@@GnosticAtheist Nice one.
He was probably specifically thinking about the office of Dictator during the Republic. The Republic had laws in place even against the Consuls, especially their veto inbetween eachother. The Dictatorship was an emergency office used during times of crisis so that whoever assigned it could get the job done and couldn't be punished afterwards.
I thought this could be him excusing some of the actions of the enclave, but your right it could also be in reference to the origins of the word and roman history
The ancient Greek world was filled with tyrants. An example of good tyrant was Pisistratus, under whose rule the Homeric epics were given written form for the first time.
2:08 He says "West of the colorado" but the subtitles say "east side of Arizona"
The game was made in such a rush. A lot of stuff was left in like that.
The game was made in 18 months and was practically unfinished at launch, I personally think wrong biographical subtitles is excusable
@@blacktimhoward4322 thank bethesda for that one
@@justanotherwitposter1875 thank whoever in Obsidian who decided to agree on that amount of months to develop the game*
@@frankhorrigan1508 I mean, a bit unfair considering that bethesda's slop usually takes like 5 years to make and isn't nowhere near as enjoyable as New Vegas
"y'know what, you're a smart fella, courier."
"thanks, and you're a fart smella, gannon."
Only assholes insult when someone admires them
He admires quit attack mode
im actually losing it at this comment LMAO
Lol all you have to do to reassure him of your “questionable actions” is just say woah it’s cool man I did it because i hate the legion. For all of his intelligence he really lets his emotions get in the way
People with high cognitive intelligence often neglect developing their emotional intelligence. Emotions aren't always intuitive, and mastering them is usually painful. Basically it's the same problem a lot of beautiful people have growing up: if I can skate by on my looks, why bother studying? I've also met people who had high emotional intelligence but low cognitive intelligence. They operate almost entirely on instinct. It's an incredibly rare person that strives to fully develop all aspects of their body/mind.
To be fair antifascism is a good reason for many things.
@@stm7810 he’s way more of a delusional Roman larper than a “fascist”.
@@stm7810 Depends on exactly how you're "anti-fascist". Typically, those groups were composed of communists, who are just as bad, if not worse. But any normal, law-abiding Western citizen should be expected to be anti-fascist in simple principle. One doesn't have to be a radical extremist ideologue of the opposite variety in order to oppose fascism. Especially seeing as Hitler and the USSR had a non-aggression pact at the start of WW2.
@@Jedislayer19 emotional intelligence doesn't exists
The last one is hilarious cause you just randomly are like “hey chill bro practice some empathy for that warlord over there”
@Andrew Ryan I'm surprised that the Courier can't respond by stating that he wouldn't have been kept around if he was a misogynistic, rapist, and slaver POS like the Legion is.
All I could think was "dude, keep your fucking voice down. We're stood in the middle of a Legion camp, and the man you're criticizing is less than a hundred metres away. He might even be able to hear you from here. Are you trying to get us both killed?"
@@tbotalpha8133 considering Arcade wasn't allowed into the tent but could hear the conversation, yeah, Ceasar could hear Arcade yelling.
@Andrew Ryan Raul is one of my favorite characters but I hate this quote because people take this out of context as him being pro-Legion. He's saying Legion is better than murderous raider anarchy, not that it's better than House or NCR, or even that Legion is laudable- just that it's better than literal lawless wastes.
@Andrew Ryan right. Maybe some sort of order was restored by the legion. But that is NOT what motivates Caesar. His whole backstory reeks of megalomania, and everyone in the legion is there to serve him, not the people of the wasteland. Heck, he calls himself Caesar because he also wants to be a "great man" recorded in history, not just some scribe dedicated to helping the wasteland. Restoring order in the wasteland is just a fortunate side effect of his plans, that he doesn't really care about. So calling him out on his bullshit is still valid.
A high intelligence Courier is the perfect contrast to Ganon. Both demonstrating high intelligence but while Ganon lets his morality come in conflict with his research, the Courier lets his cold pragmatism come in conflict with his morality.
What's this? Genuinely good insight in a Falout video comment section? I have seen it all
Reminds me of Doctor Who when the Doctor travels with someone just as smart as them and they humble them a lot. Gannon frequently thinks they are smarter than everyone and it’s probably odd for him to be shown that his way of thinking isn’t the only intelligent reasoning out there.
courier: "Why you heff teh bee mahd? Is only gaym."
Gannon is my favorite follower along with Raul. Both have a lovely story arch about coming to terms with their past and what they want to do for the future.
For Gannon its what he wants to do to help the Mojave: does he rally the remnants and don his father's power armor, or stay behind to help Freeside?
Raul meanwhile has to come to terms with his truly venerable age; a prewar ghoul living long past his time, a long trail of loss behind him and a future he is unsure if he has a purpose in. Does he pick up his tools and age as gracefully as one can in his situation, or does he down the ammo belt and poncho and ride once more, a fire rekindle burning to help the wasteland?
Both also bring up interesting points about the Mojave. Gannon shows just how much people are struggling and the issues present with the NCR while acknowledging all the good they do and can do for the region. Raul has been around long enough to remember a time before Caesar and can vouch for the fact that he has helped make the east safer despite all of the blood spilt in his name.
In the end both are top tier companions.
personally i prefer boone for being dark and broody while having a very dark story with the legion. the game sometimes doesn't get as dark as it can considering we are in a post apocolytic society and boone is a great example of how evil the legion can be.
also i like veronica simply for being the type of person to 1 v 1 a deathclaw in melee and hold her own
@@sovietunion7643 Regarding Veronica, I do wish she could've properly joined a faction outside the BOS.
Or you can just drunk 10 bottles of whiskey and go shooting with Dinner Bell and Cass.
@@Artemas_16 God I wish that was a random event; if you have Cass, let there be a small chance after binge-drinking you either hallucinate or black out and stumble upon a bandit camp. Something like this anyway.
@@StealthTheFoxz sounds like a good idea. Sadly, Obsidian didn't have enough time to implement more random events, like it was in Fallout 3. But there was ability to drink so much you would wound up marrying Cass in the church, with King being preacher. That function then got but from the game.
Actual Redditor gets destroyed by courier with facts and logic
You dont have to do that
nah, you look more like a redditor than Arcade
Arcade: *won't travel with you unless you meet a certain level of intelligence*
Also Arcade: Stop thinking, thanks
As far as I remember he agrees to travel with you if you have LOW intelligence (don't remember exactly, but i think it should be 3 or lower)
@quadroninja2708 that's only because he's very worried you'll die and he is a gentleman
He also travels with you if you flirt with him as a gentleman.
He's just looking out for your head injury
Next scene both courier and Arcade both are nailed to the cross.
Courier: Jeez, Arcade, couldn't you like wait until, I don't know, after we leave Legion's camp before criticizing them?
All them kind little nods. Bless you.
1:55 Nods, then proceeds to activate ARCHIMEDES.
The little nod at the end when the guard says Ave
You sure Arcade should have the fedora and not _you_ there?
My praetorian *tips fedora*
Atleast that guy has the excuse of being brought up a slave in the Legion. What’s Arcade’s excuse?
1:14 the background noise 💀
0:07 I never understood why he is so uncomfortable with the pre-war government until recently. Great foreshadowing.
sometimes when im anxious about something, ill remember arcades "stop thinking so much, thanks" and it immediately makes me feel better lmao
“Where’s the lamb for this offering?”
*intense moaning*
I thought I was the only one who heard that 😭😭😭
I love the 100-0 in emotion from Arcade for the last one.
Arcade is just a redditor. He’s easy to impress if you use vocabulary with enough syllables
'You're crazy to think I'd help Caesar!'
'okay reddit.'
Arcade prefers to pronounce it "Redditeur".
He would leak NCR troop positions for updoots
Considering the setting, it is fairly impressive
@@negativezero8174 I would do it for ketchup packets to be honest
I kinda wish there was a way to talk him down about ARCHIMEDES.
1) [Speech] Helios One's power is already missing from people's lives, and choosing an orbital laser cannon over free power is not going to do anything negative to people. Since there's already no power from Helios, there's no people dependent on it. This choice is not a negative, it's a alternative positive.
2) [Science] ARCHIMEDES is a unique piece of scientific achievement. Power can be gotten from elsewhere, orbital ion cannons can not. Not to mention solar output is absolutely pathetic compared to hydroelectric or, I dunno, stable portable nuclear fusion that's widely available.
3) [Survival] There are other things than Legion, House and NCR out there. The Chinese may very well still be kicking around. Big Empty is full of horrifying experiments. The tunnelers are closing in on Mojave. Hell, even Deathclaws took over the best route to Vegas. Having an orbital cannon to protect the residents would be much better than just giving them some power from an old-ass solar plant
4) [Repair] It's not like Helios one would even produce all that much power. The plant is in bad shape, and putting it to full use would just speed up the deterioration. There's no solar technicians or know-how how to fix it. The closest available ones are huddled in a bunker, and would also rather go for the orbital cannon. The plant is just well off enough to keep the weapon going, everything else is hopeful at best.
5) [Intelligence] Right now, the only reason NCR has not sent anyone smarter than Fantastic is because they assume the plant to be dead. It's a fortress for them, not a power plant. If Fantastic gets it working a little bit, then it's just a bonus for them.
But fixing the power plant will make them notice. And if they notice that the plant is now working, and they are not the ones receiving that free power, they will definitely send someone capable to re-route it. And hell, they will find ARCHIMEDES, and definitely go for it over power. You'd end up with the cannon operational, and in NCR hands.
Arming ARCHIMEDES will just make them think the plant's dead, since they don't see where the output goes. And I'm much better at choosing the targets for it.
6) [Barter] Free power to the Freeside wouldn't be an economical boon. It will just serve as a lure to the less fortunate, overwhelming the streets outside of the Strip with even more desperate people. And it would also attract those people, who'd want to monopolize said free power. You'd be ending up causing more suffering in the long run by taking that option.
7) [Energy Weapons] Jesus Christ, Arcade, did you even listen to me? A. Personal. Orbital. Ion. Cannon. How are you not hard right now?
I feel like the seventh option would be more persuasive to a Brotherhood of Steel follower, Veronica notwithstanding. Arcade doesn't come off as a technophile, but I do understand where you came from given that he is former Enclave.
8) [Lockpick] If we do spread this electricity around, how are you going to keep it secure? All the power distribution mechanisms are pre-war, meaning they depend on law enforcement to prevent all unauthorized access. Now, all this "free power" would just be free power to the first guy who figures out how to tap into the grid and leech it all for himself.
9) [Perception] Spreading the power around would cause unintended consequences. I saw a lot of now-unpowered security systems, alarms, lights, and god knows what else. If you just start powering the whole grid again, all of that will go off. Best case scenario, is that it short-circuits. Worst case scenario, is that there's an unsent nuke somewhere, that was primed to go.
10) [Intelligence] That power won't really do anything for the people. Since there's no power to begin with, all the household appliances and other electrical things were scrapped, traded and bartered away long ago. What people really need is clean water, security and food. And while you can use power to do that, there's no easily available pumps, water purifiers, turrets and hydroponics to convert said power into useful things. It'd just light up a few houses at night, at best.
Also, 5) should be changed to [Sneak]
@@DifferentRussian You are damn good at making custom skill checks. These are really good.
You're trying to reason with an extremely intelligent peace chasing do-gooder why a new weapon of mass destruction needs to be completed. Theres no argument where Arcade accepts that. Especially since the political situation in and around Vegas is so fragile.
If the NCR captures it, they use it to clamp down on everyone and secure the mojave through force. If House gets it, he uses it when needed to kill everyone who opposes his dream. Followers would probably destroy any way to mark targets, wasting it. Legion would nuke anything Ceasar doesn't like. God forbid any street gangs or raiders get ahold of it. The Brotherhood would use it to make the situation untenible for NCR and anyone else unfortunate enough to exist around them, if the NCR even manages to not put 2+2 together.
TLDR: There is no way, ever, someone as intelligent and ethical as Arcade would ever allow a weapon of mass destruction to come online if he had a chance to stop it. He knows the wider implications, and the risks, and that it may exist well past when he and the courier are gone.
These are fantastic, love #7
Lel, I love the little nod you give. You know you’re immersed in a game when you start doing stuff like that like “mhm”
That pause Arcade did before mentioning the government was he about to say The Enclave
Yup
Arcade's idealistic nature rubs off with the Courier's pragmatic nature, it's cool to see them engage each other with the ups and downs of each of their ways and ideals.
0:50 love this "brain thing" explaining something easy in more complex way is the main Intellect job! in meantime that line means "we'll see"
Yup, that made sense
@@JmdMagic I'm just like Forest Gump from book ! "I have iq-74 which makes everything clear to me" same to me
but i'm not Forrest Gump and my iq is a way higher but still - everything clear to me...everything
If he's so smart, why'd he start bad-mouthing Caesar in front of Caesar's Legion.
"But where is this lamb for this burnt offering?"
Background: *sex noises*
Ah true to Caesar...
courier: "nods"
"He's a tyrant, the bad kind"
"Ave, true to caeser"
I love how the background audio that plays in brothels is just extremely loud moaning.
Redundancy is the most logical choice in the game that I can think of. You're in the middle of a guerilla war and the main fighting is over the main power source in the area. I can't help but choose it every time.
As an adult, i’ve only just realized Flynn Ryder and Arcade Gannon are the same va!
"then you leave me no choice"
Dies.
He actullay leave him no choice, he wanted to kill him didnt he?
He is the bad guy and you like him
Took the a moment to notice the moanings in the second clip....now i cant unhear it
I never saw the one at 1:44, thank you!
years and years later and theres still new stuff in there for me
I wonder if Arizona was supposed to play a bigger part in the story or even the playable area but was cut. Wonder why they changed it from AZ to CO
There was meant to be some Legion areas you could visit in Arizona, but it was cut for time. Also, the Colorado they're referring to is the river, not the state, so I don't think anything was changed per se besides cutting Legion locations.
@@mattthedoormatThough it'd also be nice to see Colorado, particularly Denver, which used to be Hangdogs territory (Antony and Rex were from there).
@@mattthedoormat I don't think it was cut entirely due to time constraints. Lots of stuff got cut to make it fit on consoles, one of the many crimes perpetrated against the PC master race.
@@desertdude540Considering New Vegas is barely playable without constant patching and bugfixing, I'd blame it on the engine and not on consoles. But what do I know, I'm not a redditor like you.
So basicly it like this:
Arcade, pretty smart guy
10 Intelligence Courier, REALLY smart guy
0:31 Basically any government rn when you start seeing the patterns
1:19
Is Arcade... the second Christian person in all of post war America that we've seen, or did he just find a bible somewhere and memorize it so thoroughly that he can make a recontextualized and applicable quotation?
Can probably be hand waved as something he learned during his upbringing in the enclave and getting to actually study
Presuming you are referring to Joshua Graham as the first (in which case, don't forget about Daniel also), I believe that several Enclave folks in FO2 make vaguely Christian references (in the same way that modern politicians do so). Also, however, the symbol of the Followers of the Apocalypse is a cross - while it is not explicitly a Christian organization, it seems reasonable, given their extensive library and their gravitation toward religious sites (taking an interest in what goes on in the Cathedral, settling the Old Mormon Fort), that some might embrace rational Christianity. Also, presumably some others drifted north and east away from New Canaan after it was burned.
@Andrew Ryan "Even the devil can cite scripture for his purpose"
@Andrew Ryan well Arcade is a redditor, and that is very reddit behavior to quote the bible out of context to try to make a point
There are a lot of Mormons in the new Vegas lore. The followers of the apocalypse is likely a Mormon missionary group given they are setup in Old Mormon fort. In general Mormonism in America is very prevalent in Utah so that is why there are a lot of Mormons in New Vegas.
Arcade Gannon isnt a travel buddy. Hes your friend 😁
*punching bag
Ruthless
People calling arcade a redditor when they are using words like 'soyboy' is hilarious.
Redditors are how we got those soyjaks after all.
*casually discussing why you you obliterated him*
meanwhile the loudest moans you'll ever hear in the next room
That speech check in HELIOS ONE reminded me how cranking intelligence to 10 means my character is smart. Damn, he's smarter than me cause I didn't even think of shit like that
It's so simple, but that speech check is probably the most impressive dialogue option I've ever seen in a game. It's logical and perfectly articulated, it's not something most people could think up, and it's clearly something that would persuade the other person. Most of the time in F:NV the checks feel forced and awkward, like there's no way the other person would actually change their mind because of it (Lanius), but that one is nothing at all like that, it works beautifully and organically. It makes me want to see a game where you can just talk and think like that, all the time.
Those legionaries were pretty chill about arcade talking shit about caesar right next to them
"east side of arizona" but the voice actor says "west of the colorado"
Man I can't believe I went through nearly the entire game before I noticed him chilling at the old mormon fort. I'm about to start a new playthrough just to pal around with good ol' Arcade.
arcade: ".... a tyrant. the bad kind..."
me: there's a good kind??
Emperor Augustus
Edit: NOT Tyrants, but Dictators.
Tyrants weren't objectively bad in Rome. It simply meant that you had absolute political authority. It was an emergency measure with a time limit, or in some cases, a recognition of leadership if someone was made Tyrant for life
@@TrueFlameslinger I'm not denying the concept of the so-called "good dictator", Looking back at this comment it seemed amusing to say at the time... I appreciate the info you shared though. so thank you for that... I simply thought the way Arcade's opinion on the matter seemed very one-sided to me due to the video's nature not giving the larger picture of the situation which since i didnt make it as far in NV to experience the conversation with eithe arcade or ceasar...
@@TrueFlameslinger
Edit: Tyrant and dictator are two completely different terms with two completely different definitions. Nobody even talked about dictators, you just swapped the terms and tried to define the term tyrant keeping in mind definition of dictator that is almost an anthonym from some perspective for tyrant. I haven't seen such useless and misleading commentary in a long time for sure
@ulaslolatitudinarian9860 Yes, I misattributed the classical definition of Dictator to Tyrant, that's why I put an edit in clarifying that it was dictators, not tyrants
Gannon: 🤓🤓🤓
Courier: "Holy shit Gannon shut the fuck up and let me have my fun"
"stop thinking so much. Thanks."
Praetorian: Ave, true to Caesar.
Courier 6: 'Sup.
Arcade is a sweetheart.
YES.
Yes
He's definitely fruity.
The gay anarcho-communist doctor is my favourite companion in all of fallout.
@@troletrain "Fruity" hes canonically gay lmao
Him wearing that fedora is just so perfect
Man, a game character have more personality than characters from other medias and games... Arcade Gannon ❤
the lil nod at the end got me good lmao
He’s Reddit incarnate. If only there was a 4chan incarnate character, I hued this is your job as a player
Idk I think he’s too kind to be a 4chan guy lol.
He IS part of a punk anarchist group after all. I doubt redditors would like that
1:20
Arcade making philosophical poetry
*background noise intensifies*
That “Ave, true to Caesar” right after Arcade finished talking sounded a little sneery. I would’ve killed every legion member within a 5 mile radius for that.
"But where is the lamb for this burnt offering?" AHHHAHHHHHAHHHOHHHHAHHHH
FR💀💀💀
Love the little nod you gave Gannon
I wanna know what he meant by "a tyrant, a *bad kind* " what would be good tyrant in his mind? 🤔
the word dictator and tyrant used to not have the same kind of negative image we have, they were basically just another title of a ruler of a society
My Arcade is scrubbing Caesar's Toilet now. :)
I love the caption joke at 2:10, whoever made them had a good sense of humor.
If anything, Arcane is the dumbest character in whole nv who pretends to be smart. His complusive "I know everything better" Character is really annoying, never do anything with him unless I have to.
You just dont like him
No, it's just that he can't understand basic logic and draw his own conclusions by connecting the dots himself and all he does is self ironically complain, an annoying trait one does see all to commen nowadays by the woke community@@Namrec_Molai
I just imagine Arcade pulling Courier over in a huddle in the last one and going
"I know we should be considerate about some people, but I think Caesar is a lost cause. So why don't we just cut our losses and get outta here!"
2:09 arcade says “west of the Colorado” but the subtitles read “East of the Arizona” lmaoo
The fedora is extremely fitting
I love the refrences arcade gannon makes
west of colorado or east of arizona, which is it?
Yes
why not both?
north of dakota
The Canonically Walking Doomday (the courier) debating on the morals of Caesar is funny af to me. Everywhere Courier Six goes, MASSIVE changes happens, be it political or geographical
It’s weird how many snarky redditors are running around after the nuclear apocalypse.
He is one of my favourites and Raul the most
I love how he clears his throat before he says goverment, he know that means enclave
"Stop thinking so much. Thanks."
- Arcade Gannon, Followers Doctor with no ties to the Enclave whatsoever.
FNV is the true shooter rpg
I like how your companions have these unique dialogue options, I don’t like how they talk to you like they are the ones in charge, I’m the MC and I’ll decide what happens not you thanks
1:22 ... what's going on in the background? 🤨
East side of Arizona = West of the Colorado? Not from the US btw
No,
The colorado river is the border between nevada, on the west and arizona on the east.
Lore of Surprise Arcade Gannon with your high intelligence in FNV momentum 100
And then I sold his ass to the Legion
Yo that Anderson part. I only just realised after these many years , all the koaning thats happening
"Ave, true to Caesar" *nods head*
Im pretty sure Arcade would support the current things and would think that Star Wars 8 is a masterpiece
You do realize that arcade is propably a socialist right?
@@denizmergen418he’s a follower of the apocalypse, no probably about it.
The nod at the end ended me 😂
RIP Anderson, too good for this world.
I always spare him, usually by pinning his crime on the Scorpions.
The finest mind of his generation.
@@yunoir3105Has come to such an end…
Anyone else notice the difference between the dialogue and the script at 2:08?
"Killing X won't bring Y back" isn't really assuming a motive, it's just a rebuttal to an argument that no one ever truly makes.
Wait, let me get this straight.
There's a Ganon in the arcade? And he's being conquered by Wisdom and not Courage?
_I feel a disturbance in the TriForce....._
1:23 who gettin they back broke🫣?🤣
He’s literally me but educated
The nod at the end was funny.
Bro what’s going on in the background at 1:22 💀
It's literally the background ambiance for the Casa Madre Apartments, which is located at Westside.