@@Demise90Racing I like this one because the trivia of JPM leading points the entire season from start to finish and NOT winning the championship has to be one of the most mind-bending facts to racing fans unaware of the exact circumstances. And BTW, your vids are great and I love that they cover moments from many different series. I feel like I either get to relive classic moments or learn something new with every vid. Plus you got me to follow IndyCar this year which has been excellent so far. That Texas race was jaw-dropping stuff!
@@extragoogleaccount6061 it is a mind blowing stat. Hard to believe tbh. I'm glad you enjoy the videos and I'm super happy you got into IndyCar. The racing is some of the best out there and it really makes my day when someone tells me they started watching it because of my videos. I appreciate the comment 👍
The whole 2015 season was (well barring Pocono and the death of Justin Wilson, which made it on the national news here, not just the sports news), was absolutely wild. Ditto for 1999 too which was also touched by tragedy, CART and later Indycar have had several years where 5+ drivers have gone into it with a shot of winning the title after all.
As a Scott Dixon fan, I did not expect to Dixon to come out on top with the title in 2015. But after seeing that Sonoma race, I couldn’t help myself lose it in my apartment when the Ice Man won the chip. I felt bad for Montoya knowing that he was the best driver overall in 2015, but was elated when Dixon stole the title from him.
Scott's biggest stroke of luck is that Charlie Kimball somehow managed to not fuck up in those last few laps lol. That was also the last podium of Kimball's career
@@skyhigh6089 thats true, but I was thinking entire season like at Iowa where a $20 part failed which never happens to Penske or that New Orleans debacle where he was the fastest car and rainout cost him a shit ton of points. Then the championship would've been clinched before the Somoma race
Montoya should have won. Although Dixon had more victories, it was only the double points that won him the championship. Double points are a joke in any series UNLESS it is a double distance race
Scott Dixon unexpectedly winning from a Will Power pole is one of the most Indycar things to happen As a WP stan I kinda view missing the title by a margin of 0 points as karma for JPM screwing over Will's race
@@Demise90Racing True, but I feel as though double points at Indy is more justifiable with how big of a deal the 500 is (I still don't really agree with it, as it further incentivizes conservative points racing in the biggest race of the year). Having a double points finale in what would otherwise just be a random race at Sonoma seems like a contrived way for a closer points battle in the last race.
He lost it himself. All he had to do was to follow Will to the finish line.
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@@Demise90Racing But Scott Dixon had 4th at Indy and 1st at Sonoma and Montoya had 1st at Indy and 6th at Sonoma, so without double points Dixon would losing a couple more points than Montoya.
I've been watching Scott Dixon since the CART/ ChampCar days. The Ice Man is the best in my eyes, top of the class! And it helps driving for chip ganassi, he always has great equipment. But yeah Scott Dixon is simply the best. He needs another championship its been a while since his last one.
@@MrArach666 in 1958 and in 1982. Since then both sports evolved a lot. I think Alonso was born in 1982. And he is being looked at as a granddad. Your point however is undefeatable, and stands still
F1 sucks balls. If they had a standard chassis, thet would have closer racing, and not a monopoly of wins for one team each year. The car wins the championship in F1 not the best driver over a full season.
I flew down from Vancouver by myself and watched this race live. It was incredible. I had rented a scanner headset and heard David Letterman give a speech to Graham's team right before the race that was just incredible (Graham technically had a chance at the title). I could also hear the NBC booth during commercials, PT couldn't believe that "Montoya fucked himself" when he busted his wing. Then the crowds tension while watching the final sequence as Montoya hunted down one final spot, but couldn't quite get there. Topped off by helping Chip crowd surf, lol. Unbelievable experience!
@@Demise90Racing You could argue that Indy 500 must have double points because it's the longest, fastest and most prestigious race in the calendar. But giving double points for the season finale is a pure gimmick.
Wished for last year's finale to be as close but sadly not. Anyways this was a Dixon masterclass while Montoya choked it and that's why Dixon is a 6-time champion. That consistency even nowadays is amazing. Actually surprised Montoya didn't get a drive-through for colliding with Power.
@@pedrooliveiraoliveirasimoe5478 A whole lot of things contributed to this championship. I could just as easily point to the repair behind pit wall at Iowa that got Dixon out on track dozens of lap down but just enough to still get past one retiree for a single extra point.
To be fair for everyone whining about double points... Go look at how they used to do points for 500 milers. Bob, either Jenkins or Varsha explained it, you had some wild scoring for 500 mile races, IIRC it was something nuts like 3x or 4x the regular points. I mean, after knowing that...2x for one race, doesn't seem all that bad. I'd love to see that sort of wildness return, or, hell, Indy can drop scores a la F1 in the 60s
@@Demise90Racing Looking up how the USAC/CART systems worked, it was 2 points per mile then in the early 80s, CART slashed it to 0.2 points per mile. To be fair the 2 points per mile makes sense, really. I'd be okay with that for Indycar points honestly
@Jace Katalakis . . . going back to the first/second decade of USAC Champ Cars series, a win at the Indy 500 would [almost] assure a lock on the season's title. But the 1967/68 seasons nearly put such assumptions on-its-ear, as AJ Foyt ['67] and Bobby Unser ['68] barely squeaked into becoming the series champs in those respective seasons; as ever the scrapper, Mario Andretti, challenged them in both seasons down to the last laps of the last race [Riverside] in those season(s).
@@bloqk16 I'd need to go double check what the AAA system was as well to see if there were any similar battles up to when USAC was formed now, I thought in 67 and 68 Mario and Bobby went into Riverside with a slight lead or some reason, I may have got USAC an NASCAR mixed up for that one
@@jacekatalakis8316 What I vividly recall from the 1968 USAC Champ Car season was Bobby Unser winning consecutive early season races, including the Indy 500; where everyone, including me, thought Unser had _a lock_ on the championship. But Mario Andretti fought back, even dumping the Ford turbo DOHC for the more reliable four-cylinder turbo-Offy; which got him some wins by mid-to-late season. Meanwhile, Unser went on a dry streak with regards to winning after Indy. The season ending Riverside race was something out of a Hollywood script with all the drama Andretti went through with race-car breakdowns, car-hopping, and crashing the STP-Lotus-Turbine. Aside from the driver's championship that season, there was the competition between Goodyear and Firestone tires, as Unser used Goodyears, while Andretti was on Firestones. All that _rough and tumble_ aspects of racing back then makes current IndyCar seem very tame and a bit too sanitized for my interest.
As an argentinian this finale will always be remembered, as the broadcasters were clearly cheering for Montoya from the very start saying dumbass comments like "a great day to be Montoya". After all the meltdown and choking by penske they were trying to downplaying it saying "Montoya led all year and today Dixon tied him, no one ever had more points than him" And this year they keep jinxing Pato o Ward at every race
I have some ideas for a third part of the brutal NASCAR crash series. Idea 1. Tom Herbert’s massive crash in 1960 at Daytona Idea 2. Richard petty’s huge crash at Darlington in 1970 Idea 3. 37 car pileup at Daytona in 1960 aswell Idea 4. Maynard Troyers serious crash at Daytona in 1971.
What did? A championship tie? Tony Stewart won the IRL championship by 6 points in 97 and Alex Zanardi won the CART championship by over 30 points and he didn't even race the final race lol. So I think you have your years mixed up lol. It happened in 1996 IRL which was only 3 races, and the 2000 CART season.
If Montoya had a brain to match his talent, he would have won many more championships... though maybe not this one as he could have still been racing in F1.
It will forever be one of my favourite IndyCar quirks that Juan Pablo Montoya has both won and lost a title on countback.
Indeed he did. I have a video of that race on my channel as well 👍
@@Demise90Racing I like this one because the trivia of JPM leading points the entire season from start to finish and NOT winning the championship has to be one of the most mind-bending facts to racing fans unaware of the exact circumstances. And BTW, your vids are great and I love that they cover moments from many different series. I feel like I either get to relive classic moments or learn something new with every vid. Plus you got me to follow IndyCar this year which has been excellent so far. That Texas race was jaw-dropping stuff!
@@extragoogleaccount6061 it is a mind blowing stat. Hard to believe tbh. I'm glad you enjoy the videos and I'm super happy you got into IndyCar. The racing is some of the best out there and it really makes my day when someone tells me they started watching it because of my videos. I appreciate the comment 👍
The whole 2015 season was (well barring Pocono and the death of Justin Wilson, which made it on the national news here, not just the sports news), was absolutely wild.
Ditto for 1999 too which was also touched by tragedy, CART and later Indycar have had several years where 5+ drivers have gone into it with a shot of winning the title after all.
Like last year for example
As a Scott Dixon fan, I did not expect to Dixon to come out on top with the title in 2015.
But after seeing that Sonoma race, I couldn’t help myself lose it in my apartment when the Ice Man won the chip.
I felt bad for Montoya knowing that he was the best driver overall in 2015, but was elated when Dixon stole the title from him.
Scott's biggest stroke of luck is that Charlie Kimball somehow managed to not fuck up in those last few laps lol.
That was also the last podium of Kimball's career
Very well done video. You definitely have a knack for this kinda thing. Nice voice over. Just really well done. Keep it up Demise90. Fan for life. 🏁🤙🏽
Thanks Randal. I appreciate you man 👍
The greatest Indycar finale on my memory!
As a JPM fan watching that play out was baffling. I still think JPM was the faster guy overall that season but had some shit luck
Luck? Nope. He was dumb as nails. All he had to do was to follow Will and collect the championship.
@@skyhigh6089 thats true, but I was thinking entire season like at Iowa where a $20 part failed which never happens to Penske or that New Orleans debacle where he was the fastest car and rainout cost him a shit ton of points. Then the championship would've been clinched before the Somoma race
THIS is the racing INDYCAR produces. it’s always a spectacle, always pure magic, always pure racing.
Montoya should have won. Although Dixon had more victories, it was only the double points that won him the championship. Double points are a joke in any series UNLESS it is a double distance race
Kinda cool to see the differential at work when hes beached on the kurb haha
Scott Dixon unexpectedly winning from a Will Power pole is one of the most Indycar things to happen
As a WP stan I kinda view missing the title by a margin of 0 points as karma for JPM screwing over Will's race
I mean, not really Montoya's fault. Power changed line, I don't think Juan should be held accountable for not predicting that.
its the other way around. Power screwed up JPMs race. Thats what Will is good at... hitting teammates.
Thanks for bringing back those memories of a great race.
As clutch as this was from Dixon, I feel for Montoya as he essentially lost the title due to a gimmicked up double points race.
Yes and no. Montoya benefited from double points as well by winning the Indy 500.
@@Demise90Racing where is the video
@@Demise90Racing True, but I feel as though double points at Indy is more justifiable with how big of a deal the 500 is (I still don't really agree with it, as it further incentivizes conservative points racing in the biggest race of the year). Having a double points finale in what would otherwise just be a random race at Sonoma seems like a contrived way for a closer points battle in the last race.
He lost it himself. All he had to do was to follow Will to the finish line.
@@Demise90Racing But Scott Dixon had 4th at Indy and 1st at Sonoma and Montoya had 1st at Indy and 6th at Sonoma, so without double points Dixon would losing a couple more points than Montoya.
Miss the target livery :(
I've been watching Scott Dixon since the CART/ ChampCar days. The Ice Man is the best in my eyes, top of the class! And it helps driving for chip ganassi, he always has great equipment. But yeah Scott Dixon is simply the best. He needs another championship its been a while since his last one.
i am still incredibly salty about this as a JPM fan
Could be worse, you could be a Power fanatic that got taken out by JPM☹️
Me too man. For the purpose of the video I try to be unbiased, but I'm a huge JPM fan.
You could be salty if he had been hit by another driver... but he screwed up all by himself.
@@skyhigh6089 you blind? Power moved to a super dumb move... Power always hits his teammates.. was not the first time and not the last.
Excellent job as always Demise 👏
Thank you as always 👍
Without double points for Indy 500 and the Sonoma race: J.P. Montoya 478 - Scott Dixon 474
As an f1 fan the idea that two wins could be enough to win the title is imsaine
Well to be fair Hawthorn and Rosberg won it with just a single win.
@@MrArach666 in 1958 and in 1982.
Since then both sports evolved a lot.
I think Alonso was born in 1982.
And he is being looked at as a granddad.
Your point however is undefeatable, and stands still
@@gaborcsizmazia2210 Well yes,it was just meant as a statement of fact,the sport is very different nowdays.
F1 sucks balls. If they had a standard chassis, thet would have closer racing, and not a monopoly of wins for one team each year. The car wins the championship in F1 not the best driver over a full season.
I flew down from Vancouver by myself and watched this race live. It was incredible. I had rented a scanner headset and heard David Letterman give a speech to Graham's team right before the race that was just incredible (Graham technically had a chance at the title). I could also hear the NBC booth during commercials, PT couldn't believe that "Montoya fucked himself" when he busted his wing. Then the crowds tension while watching the final sequence as Montoya hunted down one final spot, but couldn't quite get there. Topped off by helping Chip crowd surf, lol. Unbelievable experience!
Hell yeah, sounds like you had an awesome time!
Damn those double points
Haha yeah. Montoya also benefited from double points by winning the Indy 500.
@@Demise90Racing You could argue that Indy 500 must have double points because it's the longest, fastest and most prestigious race in the calendar. But giving double points for the season finale is a pure gimmick.
@@dmitrykiselev8087 I can't argue that. They ended up getting rid of it. But as of this year, even the Indy 500 is no longer double points.
If you figure out points that year taking away the two double point races, and awarding normal points for both those races, Montoya wins it.
Wished for last year's finale to be as close but sadly not.
Anyways this was a Dixon masterclass while Montoya choked it and that's why Dixon is a 6-time champion. That consistency even nowadays is amazing. Actually surprised Montoya didn't get a drive-through for colliding with Power.
Dixon only got the championship because Karam suspiciously spun out in Mid Ohio to create a caution that helped Dixon and ruined Montoya's race.
@@pedrooliveiraoliveirasimoe5478 A whole lot of things contributed to this championship. I could just as easily point to the repair behind pit wall at Iowa that got Dixon out on track dozens of lap down but just enough to still get past one retiree for a single extra point.
Penske drivers have always gotten away with suspicious hits.
Great video, enjoyed this as an Indy fan
I appreciate it! Glad you enjoyed the video 👍
Great vid as always.
Thank you!!
missing the old school led car numbers . bring them back
Awesome video bro great job
Thank you 👍
To be fair for everyone whining about double points...
Go look at how they used to do points for 500 milers. Bob, either Jenkins or Varsha explained it, you had some wild scoring for 500 mile races, IIRC it was something nuts like 3x or 4x the regular points. I mean, after knowing that...2x for one race, doesn't seem all that bad. I'd love to see that sort of wildness return, or, hell, Indy can drop scores a la F1 in the 60s
In my opinion it's completely balanced out, as Montoya won the 500 which was the only other double points race on the schedule.
@@Demise90Racing Looking up how the USAC/CART systems worked, it was 2 points per mile then in the early 80s, CART slashed it to 0.2 points per mile.
To be fair the 2 points per mile makes sense, really. I'd be okay with that for Indycar points honestly
@Jace Katalakis . . . going back to the first/second decade of USAC Champ Cars series, a win at the Indy 500 would [almost] assure a lock on the season's title.
But the 1967/68 seasons nearly put such assumptions on-its-ear, as AJ Foyt ['67] and Bobby Unser ['68] barely squeaked into becoming the series champs in those respective seasons; as ever the scrapper, Mario Andretti, challenged them in both seasons down to the last laps of the last race [Riverside] in those season(s).
@@bloqk16 I'd need to go double check what the AAA system was as well to see if there were any similar battles up to when USAC was formed now, I thought in 67 and 68 Mario and Bobby went into Riverside with a slight lead or some reason, I may have got USAC an NASCAR mixed up for that one
@@jacekatalakis8316 What I vividly recall from the 1968 USAC Champ Car season was Bobby Unser winning consecutive early season races, including the Indy 500; where everyone, including me, thought Unser had _a lock_ on the championship. But Mario Andretti fought back, even dumping the Ford turbo DOHC for the more reliable four-cylinder turbo-Offy; which got him some wins by mid-to-late season.
Meanwhile, Unser went on a dry streak with regards to winning after Indy.
The season ending Riverside race was something out of a Hollywood script with all the drama Andretti went through with race-car breakdowns, car-hopping, and crashing the STP-Lotus-Turbine.
Aside from the driver's championship that season, there was the competition between Goodyear and Firestone tires, as Unser used Goodyears, while Andretti was on Firestones.
All that _rough and tumble_ aspects of racing back then makes current IndyCar seem very tame and a bit too sanitized for my interest.
Rip Justin Wilson
That's why Dixon is the best and most clutch driver in indycar
As an argentinian this finale will always be remembered, as the broadcasters were clearly cheering for Montoya from the very start saying dumbass comments like "a great day to be Montoya". After all the meltdown and choking by penske they were trying to downplaying it saying "Montoya led all year and today Dixon tied him, no one ever had more points than him"
And this year they keep jinxing Pato o Ward at every race
I have some ideas for a third part of the brutal NASCAR crash series.
Idea 1. Tom Herbert’s massive crash in 1960 at Daytona
Idea 2. Richard petty’s huge crash at Darlington in 1970
Idea 3. 37 car pileup at Daytona in 1960 aswell
Idea 4. Maynard Troyers serious crash at Daytona in 1971.
Also,How About You Hit me Under Yellow by Brad Keslowski brawl Matt Kenseth in NASCAR Playoffs at Charlotte (Before The ROVAL) BACK in 2014.
YU HIT ME UNDER YELLA!!!
I was at that race lol
It happened in 1997 too
What did? A championship tie? Tony Stewart won the IRL championship by 6 points in 97 and Alex Zanardi won the CART championship by over 30 points and he didn't even race the final race lol. So I think you have your years mixed up lol. It happened in 1996 IRL which was only 3 races, and the 2000 CART season.
@@Demise90Racing ah, thanks
I guess they should of done a Cars (movie) style point race. 😂
this point system is so bad... they should have never change it... 20-16-14-12-10-9.... was so much better. Another thing what Tony George facked up.
Haven't even seen three minutes of this video but already curious about the reason why Sonoma isn't in the Indycar calendar anymore?
It ended up being replaced by Laguna Seca.
Attendance. Sonoma didn't want to put in the marketing and the team owners wanted a finale to wine and dine their sponsors which Laguna Seca provides.
Szkoda Montoyi w 2015 i Castro- Nevesa w 2013, oni powinni być mistrzami a nie Dixon.
-not a tie
-not 'beached' but stuck on the curbstone
Teammate taking teammate out? Odd. One teammate being Montoya? Oh, that makes sense.
Demise90,My Request for MotoGP where Valentino Rossi side by side against Jorge Lorenzo at Catanulya in 2009 season.
That's my favorite moment of MotoGP history
This race still made me sick
ah yeah it might had been the best finale ever, but the wrong driver won. Since then I dub Dixon as the boring race champion
If Montoya had a brain to match his talent, he would have won many more championships... though maybe not this one as he could have still been racing in F1.