Agreed, the last model 1050R or even the RS is better on the road than this track focused machine. I was waiting to buy the new speed triple but I’m now disappointed that I waited.
Nice review, Luke. Nice wheelie along the straight too. I can’t wait to get my bum on one soon. As you know I love my Speed Triple 1050 S, and as you said the new model really doesn’t look like a Speed. I will reserve judgment until after my test ride! 😁👍
how does the firm suspension compare to the Street 765 RS, no one has mentioned that, i ask because i have no issues with my 765RS firmness for the road. hope too get to demo ride one soon.
My biggest reservation is the styling. It's a little old hat now. The Speed Triple should really be the one dictating the design, not just being a copy paste of the Street Triple. The lack of bright colour options isn't doing it any favours either.
I do not doubt that all the motorcyclists on this page have commented that they are capable of taking this powerful machine with its high torque to the maximum limit, considering the engine capacity of the engine and the purposes for which it is intended. It was clear that the biggest desire of the manufacturer is to oppose the competition, which is very fair. In the category with the smallest cylinder capacity, considering that today in the world exhibitions of the most famous machines, the nostalgic people who encouraged the factory so much in all these years, deserve a product with a power that should not be critical to compete on the streets and roads, but rather for go out calmly and with a sportiness characteristic of age, which I notice when I open videos referring to these occasions, I find that most of those who look at the engine, sit in the seats, check the weight, have gray hair. This public should be launched its own model, removing the maximum weight, brakes with much smaller discs, tires with a thinner profile for braking in the curves of medium speed, less reinforced suspension, much lower height, handlebars with regulation for riding with plenty of comfort and style as close as possible to the 50s. Launched with a special name, with a very attractive price due to the relief of onboard equipment with greater sophistication, so as not to be abused by the young audience, which has all the adrenaline in each body part. For the majority who are already retired, the options portfolio decreases considerably. Think about that competent Bennetts Bike technical team!
I'm itching to get a ride on one. Somehow, I don't think I'll be changing my 2020 Speed RS in for the new one. That's too fast for me, so I don't need another 30 BHP, and my bank balance could do with a break from purchasing expensive toys ! Plus I think I'd rather have a bit more "road focus" , which the older one seems to have . Still , I'll reserve my judgement to after a test ride :-D
I have to agree. It's a lot more money, and given the state of the roads where I live, I prefer plush comfort balanced with the power of the older 1050 RS v more power and a rock hard ride.
@@jace2wheel762 I looked into getting some tuning work done to my '19 RS early on but no shops in my area supported the bike. I eventually rode it less and less in favor of my other bike until I got rid of it. Had I been able to get it tuned, it would've probably been in my possession longer.
@@JDelta87 triumphs fault with the speed triple was they let performance lapse over refinement. They are phenomenal machines! But almost too good and then their power numbers fell short.... I got a 3rd party warranty to cover my machine as reflashing the ECU definitely voided the factory coverage. Other than that? SC project cans, bigger rear sprocket, smaller front sprocket, power commander with custom maps, not touching the internals or tech, those alone boosted my RS from 148 to 167. The rest is retuning the control module. You lose some fuel economy and top end numbers but gain it back with the PC mapping and the extra power with the ecu retune
@@jace2wheel762 Yea, with that standard warranty still valid, no one would touch it and I didn't want to wait another 18 months at the time of owning the bike to be able to modify it. I completely agree with refinement taking over the performance of the bike but I should've known as they were literally pointing out the hundreds of incremental updates they had done on the 1050cc engine with each new iteration of the bike. I did install an aftermarket exhaust as the stock arrow cans were too quiet and the baffle couldn't be removed without some cutting and drilling. It was a very solid bike fit and finish wise with its quality components but the performance restrictions really lessened my time with it. I'm glad to read that you were able to boost the performance out of it and enjoy it to its fullest.
Throw in a commute too - always a time when you need to ride these bikes in traffic and a sensitive throttle or clutch becomes apparent. That comparison will be very useful for people like me who have been holding out on replacing their current bikes (in my case a 17 S1000R) who are now spoiled for choice but also thinking “great, but is it worth an upgrade?”. Perhaps run a three year old Speed, Tuono or S1000R - I think the progression will be significant
Nice review, great bike. I'm touring on a 1050S, am not sure I could carry as much gear on the 1200 but there's a road from Aviemore to Insch where it would excel 🤣
Love this bike although I do think 🤔 the suspension is far too stiff for everyday, street riding. The bumps really jar. But if you use it for the Sunday blast or the track, in my opinion, that engine is a winner. Would I choose this over the 1290R or the Ducati Streetfighter? Well is there really a bad choice
Thanks for the review. People are still upset about the move from round lights to the 'critter-lights'? My greater concern is how the lights actually work. Rarely do reviews comment on this. Am I alone in riding my bike at night?
Unfortunately we didn't get chance to ride the bike at night, but they are very noticeable in mirrors when we rode in a group. Looks - such as the shape of the lights - is purely subjective and yes, how they perform is much more important. Luke
It does indeed. But it isn't wheelie mode as in it makes you be able to perform them in total control by the push of a button. All that power and torque does need some control to keep that front wheel on the deck! Luke
Sorry for your speakers. I basically said it's a good bike a big step up on the last model. Or you can read the review here: www.bennetts.co.uk/bikesocial/reviews/bikes/triumph/speed-triple-1200-rs-2021 Cheers, Luke
@@bennettsbikesocial Ha. No worries. Turned it up to hear your velvety voice and 'boom'! The beautiful song of the triple came in pretty hard. Just got a Tiger 900, so I don't even need to know how good the Speed Triple is...
Guys, your audio levels are all over the place, the video editing is atrocious, the guy couldn't be bothered to learn the main specs and the video's only available in 720p... I mean, *I* do better videos than this...
@@bennettsbikesocial Nice and a detailed review, will certainly help riders in choosing the bike 👍 Hope you production quality improves in the upcoming videos
I'M SORRY. I WILL SHOUT NEXT TIME. Or you can read the review here www.bennetts.co.uk/bikesocial/reviews/bikes/triumph/speed-triple-1200-rs-2021 Cheers, Luke
Great review. Especially appreciated all the written graphics which made the details easier to see/compare. Well done!
Thank you! Luke
I have the 2019 S model. Nobody needs more than 150 BHP for the road.
I also think that the old S model, makes for a much better road bike.
Agreed, the last model 1050R or even the RS is better on the road than this track focused machine. I was waiting to buy the new speed triple but I’m now disappointed that I waited.
Nice review, Luke. Nice wheelie along the straight too. I can’t wait to get my bum on one soon. As you know I love my Speed Triple 1050 S, and as you said the new model really doesn’t look like a Speed. I will reserve judgment until after my test ride! 😁👍
how does the firm suspension compare to the Street 765 RS, no one has mentioned that, i ask because i have no issues with my 765RS firmness for the road. hope too get to demo ride one soon.
My biggest reservation is the styling.
It's a little old hat now. The Speed Triple should really be the one dictating the design, not just being a copy paste of the Street Triple.
The lack of bright colour options isn't doing it any favours either.
Agree on the bright colour options! Luke
I do not doubt that all the motorcyclists on this page have commented that they are capable of taking this powerful machine with its high torque to the maximum limit, considering the engine capacity of the engine and the purposes for which it is intended. It was clear that the biggest desire of the manufacturer is to oppose the competition, which is very fair.
In the category with the smallest cylinder capacity, considering that today in the world exhibitions of the most famous machines, the nostalgic people who encouraged the factory so much in all these years, deserve a product with a power that should not be critical to compete on the streets and roads, but rather for go out calmly and with a sportiness characteristic of age, which I notice when I open videos referring to these occasions, I find that most of those who look at the engine, sit in the seats, check the weight, have gray hair. This public should be launched its own model, removing the maximum weight, brakes with much smaller discs, tires with a thinner profile for braking in the curves of medium speed, less reinforced suspension, much lower height, handlebars with regulation for riding with plenty of comfort and style as close as possible to the 50s. Launched with a special name, with a very attractive price due to the relief of onboard equipment with greater sophistication, so as not to be abused by the young audience, which has all the adrenaline in each body part. For the majority who are already retired, the options portfolio decreases considerably. Think about that competent Bennetts Bike technical team!
I'm itching to get a ride on one. Somehow, I don't think I'll be changing my 2020 Speed RS in for the new one. That's too fast for me, so I don't need another 30 BHP, and my bank balance could do with a break from purchasing expensive toys ! Plus I think I'd rather have a bit more "road focus" , which the older one seems to have . Still , I'll reserve my judgement to after a test ride :-D
I have to agree. It's a lot more money, and given the state of the roads where I live, I prefer plush comfort balanced with the power of the older 1050 RS v more power and a rock hard ride.
Had the outgoing RS for a bit. Solid all around bike but it was missing something for me. Hopefully I can test ride this new one soon.
Let us know how you get on with a test ride. Luke
Turns out the outgoing RS can be uptuned significantly! My 2019 is pushing 185hp and 93 ft lb on the dyno
@@jace2wheel762 I looked into getting some tuning work done to my '19 RS early on but no shops in my area supported the bike. I eventually rode it less and less in favor of my other bike until I got rid of it. Had I been able to get it tuned, it would've probably been in my possession longer.
@@JDelta87 triumphs fault with the speed triple was they let performance lapse over refinement. They are phenomenal machines! But almost too good and then their power numbers fell short....
I got a 3rd party warranty to cover my machine as reflashing the ECU definitely voided the factory coverage.
Other than that? SC project cans, bigger rear sprocket, smaller front sprocket, power commander with custom maps, not touching the internals or tech, those alone boosted my RS from 148 to 167. The rest is retuning the control module. You lose some fuel economy and top end numbers but gain it back with the PC mapping and the extra power with the ecu retune
@@jace2wheel762 Yea, with that standard warranty still valid, no one would touch it and I didn't want to wait another 18 months at the time of owning the bike to be able to modify it. I completely agree with refinement taking over the performance of the bike but I should've known as they were literally pointing out the hundreds of incremental updates they had done on the 1050cc engine with each new iteration of the bike. I did install an aftermarket exhaust as the stock arrow cans were too quiet and the baffle couldn't be removed without some cutting and drilling. It was a very solid bike fit and finish wise with its quality components but the performance restrictions really lessened my time with it. I'm glad to read that you were able to boost the performance out of it and enjoy it to its fullest.
Nice review, great bike!
Thank you! Luke
Nice, but looks a bit generic without the under seat cans.
Do a comparison video with S1000R,tuono V4 factory,streetfighter V4s,zh2 and 1290 superduke r
That's a great idea. Road, track and distance riding? Luke
Throw in a commute too - always a time when you need to ride these bikes in traffic and a sensitive throttle or clutch becomes apparent. That comparison will be very useful for people like me who have been holding out on replacing their current bikes (in my case a 17 S1000R) who are now spoiled for choice but also thinking “great, but is it worth an upgrade?”. Perhaps run a three year old Speed, Tuono or S1000R - I think the progression will be significant
That thing is stunning! Well done triumph, although it would be interesting to see a fully faired daytona version!?
Or maybe bring back the sprint
@@Villani_AV that would also be cool to see!
Sorry mate, but you've got to sort out that messy audio.
Impressive job by triumph! All they gotta do now is to make the 765 lighter and powerful and bring back the Daytona!
They already have
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the production is limited to a few units worldwide! Isn't it?
We'd bet £5 they'll be a big Daytona coming soon... Luke
@@bennettsbikesocial if there is they can take my money
Confused to buy speed or streetfighter... pls any suggestion....
Nice review, great bike. I'm touring on a 1050S, am not sure I could carry as much gear on the 1200 but there's a road from Aviemore to Insch where it would excel 🤣
The sound levels are up n down like the front end of that bike
Love this bike although I do think 🤔 the suspension is far too stiff for everyday, street riding. The bumps really jar. But if you use it for the Sunday blast or the track, in my opinion, that engine is a winner. Would I choose this over the 1290R or the Ducati Streetfighter? Well is there really a bad choice
just set up the suspension softer
@@jnfyeah true, if you own the bike, that what would be needed. On an hour test ride, there’s no time to play with suspension settings
@@Steve-motorcycles yes, right. when i test drove it at the dealer they setted it up softer beforehand, and it was incredibly smooth to ride.
It is fully adjustable, but would need a softer spring for me (75kg not in riding kit) - Luke
@@bennettsbikesocial agreed, it’s set for the track at the expense of being a great road bike like the last speed triple
Thanks for the review. People are still upset about the move from round lights to the 'critter-lights'? My greater concern is how the lights actually work. Rarely do reviews comment on this. Am I alone in riding my bike at night?
The new lights are seriously intense, the high beam blew my mind the first time I rode at night.
I upset they have ditched the high level exhausts. It’s lost it iconic look now
@@Andy-2022 Though the first few gens didn't have 'em.
Unfortunately we didn't get chance to ride the bike at night, but they are very noticeable in mirrors when we rode in a group. Looks - such as the shape of the lights - is purely subjective and yes, how they perform is much more important. Luke
The clutch cable running past the engine on the RHS srsly.....
how would this compare to the mt10? thanks
As somebody who's crap at wheelies but love them, does it have any form of wheelie control?
It does indeed. But it isn't wheelie mode as in it makes you be able to perform them in total control by the push of a button. All that power and torque does need some control to keep that front wheel on the deck! Luke
The best thing in this bike is its not full of plastic
Good review. Just really hard to hear your comments.
Thanks. I mumble. You can read what I had to say here www.bennetts.co.uk/bikesocial/reviews/bikes/triumph/speed-triple-1200-rs-2021 Cheers, Luke
@@bennettsbikesocial sorry did not mean any disrespect, it’s just that the volume level for you is low. Didn’t feel you mumbled at all, LOL.
I still think the previous bike looked better with the underseal cans and black front forks....
Totally agree with you regarding the round bug eyes.
Blew my speakers. Can't finish.
Sorry for your speakers. I basically said it's a good bike a big step up on the last model. Or you can read the review here: www.bennetts.co.uk/bikesocial/reviews/bikes/triumph/speed-triple-1200-rs-2021 Cheers, Luke
@@bennettsbikesocial Ha. No worries. Turned it up to hear your velvety voice and 'boom'! The beautiful song of the triple came in pretty hard. Just got a Tiger 900, so I don't even need to know how good the Speed Triple is...
Christ tonight. Same old same lad..
As a famous motorist once said: SPEED IS POWER! :D
Guys, your audio levels are all over the place, the video editing is atrocious, the guy couldn't be bothered to learn the main specs and the video's only available in 720p... I mean, *I* do better videos than this...
Sorry. I must try harder next time. Please let me know any top tips - Luke
You actually do...! Great channel👍
quite a lot better actually!
Poor quality of video didn’t feel like watching it fully.
Have a read of our review here www.bennetts.co.uk/bikesocial/reviews/bikes/triumph/speed-triple-1200-rs-2021
@@bennettsbikesocial
Nice and a detailed review, will certainly help riders in choosing the bike 👍
Hope you production quality improves in the upcoming videos
Can't watch for the poor sound quality! Very amateur👎
Love the brand, but i think it looks a bit of a yawn fest....not a patch on my SDR 3.0
Gutted I couldn't watch this through.. your commentary is too quiet, GV's far too loud. I can't watch like this! Maybe take a look and re upload?
I'M SORRY. I WILL SHOUT NEXT TIME. Or you can read the review here www.bennetts.co.uk/bikesocial/reviews/bikes/triumph/speed-triple-1200-rs-2021 Cheers, Luke
@@bennettsbikesocial don't need to shout just mix the audio tracks better
Nice new mt09 2021