Tandem and Solo Skin-on-Frame Canoes

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  • Опубліковано 15 гру 2024

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  • @ifell3
    @ifell3 5 років тому +24

    You hit the nail on the head there, the cheaper build and the most portable is the one that will get used the most.

    • @PNdebt-hc2tg
      @PNdebt-hc2tg 4 роки тому

      Yes at 2:50.. I paddle by many big boats with their owners just sitting solo at the moorings..

  • @qvisionstudios
    @qvisionstudios 4 роки тому

    I don't even own a regular canoe but I watched the whole video. But I do appreciate the design and engineering that goes into building something unique as this. Liked and Subscribed!

  • @TarmanTheChampion
    @TarmanTheChampion 4 роки тому +1

    Beautiful canoes sir! I adore the color of them/ their skins! You would make a perfect birch bark canoe with your experience and knowledge!

  • @jimargeropoulos8309
    @jimargeropoulos8309 5 років тому +3

    Still snow everywhere here. Looking forward to warm temps so I can get started on one.

  • @Brutananadilewski7
    @Brutananadilewski7 5 років тому +2

    Bought my plans and just finished laminating! Thanks Brian!

  • @mikecollins8241
    @mikecollins8241 5 років тому +1

    I am just getting into doing some "real" canoeing, and thinking about building one this coming winter (I have a 15' Grumman from the 60's, kinda heavy for solo carry/ loading) and found your channel. Your videos are awesome, clear and lots of info on design how/ whys and your boats are works of art ;) Subscribed, please keep the inspiration coming!

  • @trent5490
    @trent5490 4 роки тому +1

    Another quality video, thank you! I'd be very interested in a solo canoe that would also be convertible into a rowing scull for those days when I need exercise instead of a relaxed paddle.

  • @russomauricio
    @russomauricio 4 роки тому

    Just found your site and Channel, looking for a wooden canoe, and I am really liking the sof designs. I am looking for a tandem cannoe, so this one here looks really promissing, also liked the training Idea.

  • @leksey7870
    @leksey7870 5 років тому +1

    The boat is super!

  • @ScottCrouse
    @ScottCrouse 5 років тому

    Well done, beautiful boats. Having one built on the east coast of Canada from a builder here (Backcountry Custom Canoe's) and it is interesting to see your boats and his and the differences and similarities. If I were on the west coast I'd be looking in your direction :-) . But honestly, I just love looking at the art form you have put into the boat. Cheers.

  • @jimallen199
    @jimallen199 4 роки тому +2

    Tempting I have no interest in canoeing but I would like to learn bent wood techniques so just as an art project I would learn so much.

  • @javieralvarado.
    @javieralvarado. 5 років тому

    Man... You got a new subscriber and also I gonna make your course. Those canoes are amazing. De verdad que me encantaron.
    Saludos desde Costa Rica.

  • @alf3071
    @alf3071 3 роки тому

    beautiful

  • @gregborden1424
    @gregborden1424 5 років тому

    Ready for a new video. Can’t wait to see what you’ve be doing! Thanks

    • @capefalconkayak
      @capefalconkayak  5 років тому +1

      I spent a year working on a totally new youtube channel which I will announce later this year. Also, lots more cape falcon videos coming.

  • @hound2011
    @hound2011 4 роки тому

    really nice boats ! I wondered why you did`t take brown belts for the seats. Like cars with brown interior they would match your beauties.

  • @draven3838
    @draven3838 4 роки тому

    I really like the 14ft canoe

  • @danniseliger5172
    @danniseliger5172 5 років тому +1

    I need a place to build a canoe. These designs look so damn good :D

    • @wadepatton2433
      @wadepatton2433 5 років тому +1

      Build a place as some of us do. I'm building a shed onto my workshop to have semi-sheltered work/storage space for my boats. Or rent.

    • @danniseliger5172
      @danniseliger5172 5 років тому +1

      I might look into renting a place. I live in a flat in the city so space is not abundant

  • @ralfstofer8609
    @ralfstofer8609 5 років тому +1

    Thank you very much for this informative video! Great Job!

  • @ВладимирШашкин-г1э

    А чертежи и проекты ваших лодок могли бы прислать?

  • @jaumezarcero9419
    @jaumezarcero9419 5 років тому

    Hola, soy de España. Tiene distribuidor en España?

  • @TarmanTheChampion
    @TarmanTheChampion 4 роки тому

    Make the handles for the canoe removable?

  • @geoffburrill9850
    @geoffburrill9850 5 років тому

    Amazing, look too nice to use. Great work

  • @gthiesfeld
    @gthiesfeld 5 років тому +2

    I've been watching a ton of your videos over the last few days, and I'm in love with the looks of these canoes. One thing I'm curious about is the ability to repair the skin if it gets punctured. Say, if you're on a multi day trip.

    • @capefalconkayak
      @capefalconkayak  5 років тому +3

      Duct tape seems to work well for temporary repairs. Small permanent punctures can be carefully sewn and re sealed. Larger ones would require a re-skin. Having said that, in the roughly 1000 boats I've put on the water in the last 17 years, I've heard of 4 on the water punctures, and one of them was so preposterous it doesn't count. (my buddy rich got thrown onto a reef by a 20 foot wave in hawaii and broke his boat IN HALF) I've done things where I was certain I had to have punctured it, but didn't. The stuff is far from indestructible but it's tougher than you'd think.

    • @quark8338quark
      @quark8338quark 5 років тому

      @@capefalconkayak Not sure if you use the same fabric/finish, and this is a bit of a hard watch, but pretty convincing that the SOF is tougher than you'd think:
      ua-cam.com/video/3Xb_21OLjHE/v-deo.html

  • @ryanferris7841
    @ryanferris7841 4 роки тому

    Outstanding looking canoes!! What are the skins and how do you get them that colour?

    • @capefalconkayak
      @capefalconkayak  4 роки тому +1

      The skin is nylon and before I put the two-part polyurethane coating on it I brush on some jacquard acid dye, this particular color is 2 teaspoons of Chestnut and 2 teaspoons of brown, Dissolved in a boiling mixture of 5 cups of water and 2 cups of vinegar brushed on with a 4 inch foam brush and then the surfaces quickly wiped with a rag to remove any excess dye. After that I let it dry for a day before coating.

  • @russsherwood5978
    @russsherwood5978 5 років тому

    have you considered a hybrid cross of a canoe and kyak? thats what im trying to find... thank you for the video.. stay safe

  • @bozmar1
    @bozmar1 5 років тому

    Is it possible to build a pacific proa skin on frame hull ?

  • @markperrine5442
    @markperrine5442 5 років тому

    would you ever consider a forward facing rowing system in your skin on frame canoe.

  • @wadepatton2433
    @wadepatton2433 5 років тому +1

    Love the sheer and recurve as aesthetics are important even when they do nothing for performance on the water. Any vehicle that looks good sitting still will turn more heads than the "ugly duckling" that wins the competition. Tinting the fabric is another "nothing for performance" part of your system.

  • @blargkliggle1121
    @blargkliggle1121 5 років тому

    What kind of skin do you use?

  • @j.p.francofranco2866
    @j.p.francofranco2866 5 років тому

    Hi Falcon, do you sell [nylon ballistic] to kayak, if so, what is the price of the linear meter?

  • @eschickedanz
    @eschickedanz 5 років тому

    Brilliant.

  • @fadret
    @fadret 5 років тому

    what would you consider good bending wood? Yellow cedar? Hardwoods? I'm sure you cover this in other videos somewhere.

    • @capefalconkayak
      @capefalconkayak  5 років тому +1

      All straight grained and rift/flat sawn- Freshly cut white oak is king, nothing else comes close. Worth it even if you have to order a board and have it shipped. Green ash works too, but it's not as strong. Surprisingly, I've had decent luck with kiln dried hickory, strong, but it's not naturally rot resistant. Green or air dried yellow cedar can work well, but it needs to be much larger for the same strength.

    • @fadret
      @fadret 5 років тому

      @@capefalconkayak Thanks!!

  • @ZoltanGyulai1965
    @ZoltanGyulai1965 5 років тому +1

    my kind of superhero

  • @wadepatton2433
    @wadepatton2433 5 років тому

    Row row, I wanna row!
    Makes flatwater fun again!

  • @fatdogskillet8899
    @fatdogskillet8899 5 років тому +1

    maybe make the handles with rope than you could get nthem out of the way to stack

  • @quantenschaum
    @quantenschaum 5 років тому

    Beautiful!

  • @stevehisey389
    @stevehisey389 5 років тому

    Nice inovation with very fine shaping. What color did you use on the solo and is it dye or pigment? I wasted time, money, and added weight by initially placing floor boards in my build, then decided I did not need them for rigidity and pulled them out. I have done 3 seperate multi day trips with the thermarest and have noticed no downside in performance and the upside of comfort. Looking forward to your next inovations!

    • @capefalconkayak
      @capefalconkayak  5 років тому +1

      Jacquard acid dye. 2 teaspoons chestnut, 2 teaspoon of brown mixed into a boiling pot of 5 cups water and 2 cups vinegar, applied rapidly with a foam brush being careful not to dip all the way (falls off the handle) then wiping off the excess with a towel, and finally propping up facing the sun to set the dye.

  • @engindenizgibi
    @engindenizgibi 4 роки тому

    teşekkürler çok harika süper

  • @benrutherford6282
    @benrutherford6282 5 років тому

    How durable is this type of canoe

    • @capefalconkayak
      @capefalconkayak  5 років тому +1

      Durability is about the same as a kevlar canoe. So not indestructible, but tougher than you might think and much more impact resistant.

  • @nikola12nis
    @nikola12nis 5 років тому

    How well would an aluminum frame perform, instead of a wooden one ?

    • @wadepatton2433
      @wadepatton2433 5 років тому +1

      Aluminum eventually breaks if if flexes. SOF design revolves around flexibility. It also leaves a nasty black residue on anything it rubs directly against if not anodized (which wears off). I would have -none- of it in my boat, as there are too many better, more forgiving materials in my part of the world-growing right out of the ground.

    • @nikola12nis
      @nikola12nis 5 років тому

      Wade Patton So, I guess that the wood should the best go to (cheap) material for the summertime project?

    • @wadepatton2433
      @wadepatton2433 5 років тому +1

      @@nikola12nis Unless you have a pile of aluminum (of a suitable alloy-there are many), and the tools/skills to manipulated it, and a way to keep things clean that touch it, I'd say yes, no doubt.

    • @nikola12nis
      @nikola12nis 5 років тому

      Wade Patton Yeah,i guess...Damn these non-existant student budgets :( Thanks for the response!

  • @laurapeters4683
    @laurapeters4683 4 роки тому

    I want to see what some of your mistakes

  • @jccapwell
    @jccapwell 5 років тому

    I am looking at building a skin on frame C-1 designed for backcountry camping. I now have over 50 years of backcountry experience and a lighter canoe is necessary. That being said I am looking for a set of plans for a 15 foot asymmetrical hull plan.
    Dave Yost currently designs models of this type and follows in the footsteps of the late Eugene Jensen and his hulls. One concern I have is your statement about losing the shear line in your canoes. I hope there is a solution to this issue.

    • @capefalconkayak
      @capefalconkayak  5 років тому +1

      I'm curious about the specific canoe you're looking at. If you get a chance reply with a link. The idea behind this system was to put the power in the hands of the builder to choose the performance on the canoe. Most canoe plans are just a plan for one canoe. This is a plan for any canoe you want, with a few exceptions. (The big one being there is no way to add a LOT of tumblehome. I wish there was.).
      Sheer/rocker loss is just a fact of skin canoe building and something that most builders hide and lie about. The ONLY way to solve it is to build enough of a certain canoe to know where it will settle and then plan that into the build, that's the solution. So for instance, if you know you are going to lose an inch, you add an inch. I build about 25 boats a year to figure all this stuff out, so others don't have to.
      As far as the whole weight thing goes. I firmly believe that anything as light as anything else will be as strong as anything else. My canoe weighs and is as strong as a nice kevlar boat. My lightweight versions weigh, and are as strong as, a nice carbon boat, my heavy skinned versions weigh and are about as strong as some of the tougher composites. Skin on frame kayaks have about a 20% weight edge over other types of construction, but I feel like there's not a lot of difference in canoes. However, skinboats will take rock impacts much better.

  • @ИванЯкутск-е1ь
    @ИванЯкутск-е1ь 3 роки тому

    Тоже хочу научиться так

  • @waveydaveyspoonerbooner205
    @waveydaveyspoonerbooner205 5 років тому

    love that fact you're not a purist, including the possiblities or rollocks and oars on a canoe, my old coach will be turning in his grave, its a paddle craft boy you paddle it!! beautiful solo boat once i've finsih my workshop, its project. Weclome to the other side, j's and draws, C's and offside bow rudders

  • @САРАТОВ64-ъ8з
    @САРАТОВ64-ъ8з 5 років тому +1

    Супер! Класс!

    • @MC-hb3hd
      @MC-hb3hd 5 років тому

      I was in Saratov last year :)

  • @zorngottes1778
    @zorngottes1778 5 років тому

    You deserve more subscribers. I am a new one now.

  • @426superbee4
    @426superbee4 3 роки тому

    he hee i like sleeping in em. Throw some pine needles in there and a bear skin in there i'am going to sleep

  • @ThomasShue
    @ThomasShue 5 років тому

    Id sink that boat the first time I try to use it.

    • @capefalconkayak
      @capefalconkayak  5 років тому

      why do you think that?

    • @ThomasShue
      @ThomasShue 5 років тому

      @@capefalconkayak im.too heavy for it

    • @capefalconkayak
      @capefalconkayak  5 років тому

      @@ThomasShue Ah, I see, the cool thing about a system approach like this is that you can scale it up or down as much as you want to fit/float you!