The very idea of conversion is manipulation. One is most welcome to go deep into their spiritual journeys but such will not attach themselves to a religion.
@@drd.n4695 just shows your ignorance and the lack of understanding of the Bible and it's impact on the modern world. Feel really sorry for you 😢😔😔😔😢😢😢
Infact I heard dat , st Xavier's church in Goa is built on a shiv mandir😡😠...n Christians mutilated the hands of Hindus who continued to practice Hinduism after being baptized...
@activelink activdisc Yet the brutal was declared a saint due to his service to christianity by succeeding in coverting a large number of the locals in India & SEA during colonial period. Those converted still remain as christians till todate.
@Reaper lethal Where do you live? India was first a victim of Islam for hundreds of years and then the British. Before the British arrived in India, Indians had about 25% of all the worlds trade. By the time the British left 90 years later [1857-1947] it was less than 4%. Shashi Tharoor had done a very famous speech at the Oxford [University] Union on this. This was much discussed later ua-cam.com/video/f7CW7S0zxv4/v-deo.html and ua-cam.com/video/JMNkfQwkRC4/v-deo.html Please to watch this for your own information they are well worth watching. It is estimated that Britain robbed India of around £45 000,000,000,000 ie 45 Trillion pounds. The British siphoned this money off back to Britain to use for their own purposes. The Muslim Sultans and Mughals however decided to stay in India probably because they didn't want to go back to the deserts from where they had escaped. I'd be pleased to hear from you and thank you for an interest in this topic.
India was perfect in itself...there was no need for anything....no imposition is required.... Hinduism is enough....for india....let everyone be unique so like India...
@Chandru XraysIf there were no conflicts why did Ambedkar become a buddhist rejecting Hinduism? Both ideologies are fundamentally different. You are living in fantasy world believing there are no conflicts...
The angle Mr Elst has taken is interesting. Don't demonize the missionaries, but defeat them at their own game, in this case their belief system. But sadly most of the Hindus who are converted are economically vulnerable and promise of aid is a big motivator. They are also naive about their own religion. Our temples need to change, they need to support some form of the gurukul system which was destroyed under colonialism.
The temples need to get back to their roots ... and we need our Brahmins and others to spread the roots of our religion ... And most importantly, we as Hindus, must be willing to help our own downtrodden. The apathy displayed has become Dalits' insurmountable anger. Let's take responsibility for our lapses.
I am from Kerala and we face this people almost every day during my childhood from 1990s till 2014s. Now it has reduced in Kerala,but I know this happens rampantly in Tamil Nadu,Karnataka,Andhra in such a way that it can become like what happened to population in Northeast Nagaland,Mizoram, Arunachal, Manipur. Just google how the population changed from Indigenous or Hindu to full Christian within 20 to 30 years.
Christianity saying I don't want to go to hell. I want to see you go to heaven. Hindu say well if I will show you heaven on earth. Do meditation developed your consciousness. Then you can find heaven on earth.
You have to understand that Christianity and Islam are NOTHING before our Dharma ... the former were created to exert control over the masses. Dharma wants one to come out of all conditioning. Dharma wants one to look within and realize our true nature. Dharma is unconcerned about controlling people. And we can always acknowledge the good in the other (I like the Good Shepherd) ... but I will never support Abrahamics' clerical system and their absolutism aka arrogance. Suffocating lots.
Meditation is not cup of tea of those who are not wealthy and have not satisfied their body and Mind. Most of the Indians belong to medium and poor family. They can't do meditation as Buddha or Mahavir did as they were Prince and had everything. Christianity is taking advantage of the poorness of Indians as Poor person always expect magic, a magic that can change his life. This is the simple formula.
@@sageofkalyug cant do meditation just go to temple and do some meditation where there is shiva temple and do your karma meditation or karma is the best thing the human can do...
In recent times....I have seen many westerners adapting and understanding, dedicating their lives in Indian society.. Many equip themselves with the Indic knowledge and live in India and spend their lives dispelling the malice and falsehoods of Hinduism. ...I see this Sir also as one of them. ..and want to say a heartfelt Thank you for the commendable efforts 🙏🙏👍👍
Hindus there is a different place call Moksh or Nirwan. We do not like heaven or hell concept. Our God does not peeks into the bedroom to check any sins.
@Arid Fact Check: Agreed, whatever you said is correct and every Sanatan Dharmi with facts and logic will agree that Devatas and Asuras were born out of proper reproduction and Diti being a wife expressed her natural desire, no issues every being or creature is born out of natural reproduction process unlike a "might be messiah born out of virgin mother"(Very Pratical).😉 In one sentence "khata is Desh ki or gaata us faith ki jo yaha ki hai he nai😅🤣"
There is everything wrong with the motive because if they really "love" then they will love Hindus for who they are. The motive is wrong because it stands on the false statement of love and heaven and hell.
That's right Firstly man fighting on religion is a no no. People should live in harmony with each other as we all come from the same place and we all go to the same place. . Christians pethaps feel hinduism created the trinity Gods B V and M and other dieties which weren't there before. That said it was India's private business of what to do and not. This they termed as idols. The original first rig veda only had the golden egg concept or hiranya garbha or prajapathi. Swayambhu was the self existent God and prajapathi was his first born thru which everythjng was made. . Rig veda 10.90 also talks about Purusa the primodoral cosmic man.and prajapathi who sacrifices himself for Brahman or whatever and his pieces live in animals and man..and the entire universe.. Prajapati wanted this sacrifice to be remembered n repeated by man.... Read on.. www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Prajapati May be christianity borrowed Prajapathi or Purusa as Jesus the sacrificed lamb. However, no connection was as important as that made in the Brahmanas between Prajapati and Purusha, the primordial cosmic man. In Rg Veda 10.90, Purusha is credited with an immense act of self-sacrifice that brought the world into being. Like Purusha, Prajapati is also said to have sacrificed himself, resulting in the various divisions of empirical reality. Most importantly, his constituents became brahman, the sacred verbal power that was thought to mitigate the cleavage between human beings and the divine, and consequently became the lynchpin of all Vedic sacrifice. The remainder of Prajapati's constituents dispersed to create gods, humans, animals, and the rest of the phenomenal world. Thus, Prajapati gained his initial significance in the sacrificial drama. The Vedas insisted humans must must repeat this original primordial sacrificial event regularly in order to renew all aspects of space and time that Prajapati had originally put into place by way of his self-immolation. The last line says the sacrifice needs to be repeated. That's the holy mass in churches perhaps to commemorate the sacrifice of Purusa or Prajapati.. Temples perhaps remember the others Gods n goddesses rather than prajapathi. So Christian's hijacked prajapathi perhaps??????? One has to be true or both false. Truth cannot be two..
Missionaries started their work in India some 5 centuries ago but they met with little success. Even during the colonial era the british were not keen on letting missionaries upset the system and thereby depriving them of the cash cow that was India. Only after India's independence and after a seven decade long congress rule have the missionaries achieved their goal of converting entire states in the northeast into christianity. Even in the southern states of Andhra, Tamilnadu and Kerala the last 20 years has seen an aggressive posture by the church in converting almost half of the dalit population to christianity. This was aided and funded by the US government as state policy under the JOSHUA PROJECT. So what Dr Koenraad Elst says about the christians wanting to convert the hindus out of love is only partially true. There is much more to church conversions nowadays, it is part of GEOPOLITICS game played by the US government. How else would you explain all the church sponsored protests of the koodankulam nuclear power plant, and many other protests before the 2019 lok sabha elections.
Conversion by Church in Andhra Pradesh Tamil Nadu Kerala is control thorium for Americans. Monozite rich beaches of abovementioned states have thorium. India large reserves of them. Many rare earth elements are also found in India. Look what happened in Bolivia
Thank you Indic studies team for enlightenment. And fact based analysis of Indic civilization and highlighting evil intentions to carefully destroy Hindu way of living.
This is a very generous view of evangelism given what Christianity has done to the countries of Africa, South America, Philippines. Those are terrible advertisements for Christianity. Churchianity is the more apt title for that so-called "religion". It has been just a greedy power grab since the Councils of Nicaea that twisted the original teachings of Jesus to suit the Roman Empire and now the Vatican.
Read the below article carefully.. how Brahma Vishnu maheshwara were not in the old rig veda and were added later on. How prajapati is the creator of the universe and also about caste system wasnt there is the old vedic times Surya Savarnika Manavu Ashramam is a registered Hindu Religious society vide in No. 8713/1999.It's aims and objects are diffusion of useful knowledge in the fields of Legal,Medical,Scientific,Political and philosophical for the promotion of reformative prosperous views among Hindu sects and also establish Orphanage homes,Educational Institutions.It is located at Garlavoddu @Garloddu village,Enkuru Mandal,Khammam District,Telangana State,India. ssmasramam.blogspot.com/2012/08/who-is-prajapati-view-on-rig-veda-god.html?m=1
Most awesome take on it. His sense of humor when he is still taking seriously is something to learn from. This is exposing missionary in the most true manner. There is no argument left after that.
Ooooo!!!!!! I am a hindu, I wish your betterment & I pull you from cycles of "birth and death" also from "heaven and hell" ,only to converting you into "Sanatan Dharmic Tradition".It give you Moksha. Oh! wow far better than Abrahamic philosophy.
Respected Professor Koenraad Elst : Sir , you are one of my heroes. I have read many of your books. You are a great friend of India and a great supporter and defender of Hinduism. I know you are a soft spoken gentleman, but somehow I expect harsher criticism from you regarding Christianity. I think you should speak in the negative about Christianity from start to finish so that no one can misquote you out of context. I will make further comments as I am listening to this video for the second time.
Between 2:39 and 3:13 you said that the missionaries say that they come because they love us (Hindus).....and that we are nice people, non-violent and spiritual people, but Jesus is missing. Now my comment : it is so contradictory......Jesus said : “Known a tree by its fruits.” Here the missionaries are admitting that the Hindu fruits are good and sweet , but we need Jesus ??? What hypocrites !!!
Jesus said it as a criterion among Christians not something associated to non believers , it makes is easy to differentiate true Christians from false and true Jews from hypocrite pharasies .
How ridiculous to believe that one will go to heaven by merely changing religion and not by his deeds and actions!!! That itself goes to show that how unscientific such religions are!
No one goes to heaven by converting to Christianity. After converting, they have to follow several rules of the Church, only then , they can go to heaven
The teachings of Jesus are similar to the tenets of hinduism and it can be considered as one of the ways of attaining salvation. Or living life on earth more than salvation..jesus says what you sow on earth that you shall sow after life.
Thus, basically it is ur actions that will lead to ur salvation, no matter to which religion one belongs. This being the TRUTH, why some religions try to denigrate other religions?
@@ramakrishnaraopappu6449 correct, one should believe in one own religion, and do good deeds. And should not denigrate other religions. Every religion has its own principles.
@@ramakrishnaraopappu6449 That's right bro. Firstly man fighting on religion is a no no. People should live in harmony with each other as we all come from the same place and we all go to the same place. . Christians pethaps feel hinduism created the trinity Gods B V and M and other dieties which weren't there before. That said it was India's private business of what to do and not. This they termed as idols. The original first rig veda only had the golden egg concept or hiranya garbha or prajapathi. Swayambhu was the self existent God and prajapathi was his first born thru which everythjng was made. . Rig veda 10.90 also talks about Purusa the primodoral cosmic man.and prajapathi who sacrifices himself for Brahman or whatever and his pieces live in animals and man..and the entire universe.. Prajapati wanted this sacrifice to be remembered n repeated by man.... Read on.. www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Prajapati May be christianity borrowed Prajapathi or Purusa as Jesus the sacrificed lamb. However, no connection was as important as that made in the Brahmanas between Prajapati and Purusha, the primordial cosmic man. In Rg Veda 10.90, Purusha is credited with an immense act of self-sacrifice that brought the world into being. Like Purusha, Prajapati is also said to have sacrificed himself, resulting in the various divisions of empirical reality. Most importantly, his constituents became brahman, the sacred verbal power that was thought to mitigate the cleavage between human beings and the divine, and consequently became the lynchpin of all Vedic sacrifice. The remainder of Prajapati's constituents dispersed to create gods, humans, animals, and the rest of the phenomenal world. Thus, Prajapati gained his initial significance in the sacrificial drama. The Vedas insisted humans must must repeat this original primordial sacrificial event regularly in order to renew all aspects of space and time that Prajapati had originally put into place by way of his self-immolation. The last line says the sacrifice needs to be repeated. That's the holy mass in churches perhaps to commemorate the sacrifice of Purusa or Prajapati.. Temples perhaps remember the others Gods n goddesses rather than prajapathi. So Christian's hijacked prajapathi perhaps??????? One has to be true or both false. Truth cannot be two..
It is a little too much to glorify the missionaries as acting out of love. Human beings mostly act out of self interest , and in this case it is about improving one's chance to go to heaven. India interests them because of its huge non Christian population. In hindus they find a soft target. Why don't they convert the Muslims in India and other developing countries? Colonialism helped them with huge lands and network in India. They get huge funds from abroad for the specific object of converting. It is not charity per se but a subtle bargain. This aspect of their religion cannot stand the test of modern thinking about the role of religion in individual and social realms. Europe and US are seeing a significant reduction in church goers. The land if its origin viz middle East is predominantly Muslim. Christianity in reality got a fillip as a political ideology associated with Roman emperor Constantine, and saw its growth phase with active state sponsorship until the middle ages. With renaissance, this narrowly focused religion was challenged in Europe and it has never been same thereafter. Infact , East India company resented missionaries following them as it would cause more headache to them in managing business with natives. The British crown eventually saw an opportunity to brainwash natives through conversion and make them dis-own their indian origin and identity. That was a clever way to perpetuate colonial rule without having to put any significant number of Britishers on ground to rule a large country like India. Exaggeration of casteism , imposing a biased educational curriculum etc were the other tricks done with the same end objective. The Christians who settled 2000 years ago in Malabar were not into proselytising. Then why this later entrants made conversion their mission. It is time our constitution circumscribes the scope of freedom to propagate religion by banning any act amounting to proselytising, including targeting of young minds attending schools run by Jesuits. These schools will offer same curricula as any other school . It is a different matter that an individual after due study of religion wishes to convert of his own volition. In sum, India must clearly convey that fundamental right to religion cannot extend to denigrating other religions or actively converting others as these acts cannot be religious acts as understood in modern times
I HOPE THE SAME GOES WITH BJP'S GHARWAAPSI PROGRAM WHICH FAILED TERRIBLY. SO STOP SPREADING THESE BASELESS ARGUMENTS ABOUT ONLY CHRISTIANS TRYING TO CONVERT HINDUS. 😂😂😂
@@muralivenkataraman5922 Bharat is a mixture of different cultures. If you think that only Hinduism is the one true culture India is entitled to, then you're so much in the wrong. India is a multicultural country where you got to respect every culture be it Hinduism, Buddhism, Sikhism, Christianity or Islam. You have got to respect every religion and every culture so I am opposed against any kind of extremist reaction against any community. I would recommend to keep your prejudices apart and think critically. I am condemning the Gharwaapsi programme that was in force a few years but utterly flopped due to its unsecular overtones.
Am mj true culture of india is hinduism(the way its practiced in different places),jainism,buddhism amd sikhism.Atleast pisslam and christianity is not the culture pf indian origin.
Hmmm, having written a book on religion called "A Way Beyond Religion," (which is on Amazon) I can say I know a little bit about this subject. Christianity probably got a home in India long before it did in Europe even, with the arrival of the Apostle Thomas (Saint Thomas) and there is a Church in Chennai and even a hill called St. Thomas Mount, over which planes fly to land at the airport. When the Portuguese Catholics arrived in the 15th century they were horrified to discover this ancient Christianity. They went about trying their best to destroy Thomas Christianity, calling them heretics. The Catholics then brought the brutal Inquisition to India, mainly to Goa. They tortured and killed our Hindus, particularly Brahmins, if they refused to convert. The British were more gentle, relatively speaking, but they also tried very hard to destroy Hindu culture and belief. So much so people like Nehru became so westernized that Nehru was kind of ashamed of being a Hindu, really. The Congress party while seemingly "secular" was not supportive of Hinduism at all. The overwhelming success of the BJP has revealed how badly Indians think about the corrupt sick Congress party. Their leaders have drained vast amounts of money out of India in to Swiss and other accounts. Anyhow, the heart of Christian belief is the idea of SALVATION. Which means to be "Saved" from the fires of hell. They believe that only a total belief and surrender to their Lord Jesus Christ can lead to salvation. Muslims believe that surrender to Allah is necessary to be saved from the fires of hell. In recent times the Hindu Swami Narayan movement claims that there is no salvation without surrender to Lord Krishna according to their Shikshapatri. (obviously they did their homework first, and learned the lessons of Christianity). Such madness in religion. Whereas most of us Hindus are kept totally ignorant of the profound, magnificent teachings of our Vedas particularly the Upanishads. There is ONE magnificent mind/energy that pervades the universe, and you and I are tiny fragments of that. We can be secure in that feeling, that there is no hellfire or damnation. Our souls (aathma) are immortal and indestructible; our souls may choose to come back in another human form or they may not. This subject would take an entire book to discuss so I'll stop there. Most of Europe has pretty much rejected Christianity. In the USA, Christians have become more radicalized, leading to the election of Trump and his anti-Muslim beliefs. They, with the political power of the Republican party, want to make America Christian. "Make America Great Again" implies "Make America Christian Again." And bring Bibles into schools and government offices, which has been prohibited since the declaration of Independence. This is a movement of desperation, as people are leaving their churches in huge numbers. Which is why they are desperate to spread the religion in the rest of the world.
Well Sir. Your research is commendable. Brahman is eternal and unchangeable. But under the influence of Maya the individual soul believes itself to be the body it's put in. Hence this world is existent. Swarga and narka and the process of transmigration. The shastras of sanatana dharma are very transparent, at least in this regard. Upanishads are very lofty and difficult to comprehend. Especially to one not on the path of moksha. Which is almost everyone.
People will continue to evolve and there is no end to it.. People will change religion if they want. Information is flowing freely and there is no need for anyone to seek converts. If anyone wants to change his religion or faith, no force on this Earth can stop it. So such laws expose the insecurity of some people.. People are no longer restricted by narrow domestic walls. Ideas will continue to pour like rain or ideological tsunamis can strike. If you want your ideology to survive take the path of debate. Let us have friendly debates.
Once there was a Bird of golden wings that was flying high and shining like a bright star in the night sky emitting knowledge and spiritual wellness. Dark forces could not resist looking at this great bird, they saw a golden bird decided to steal gold from its wings. The bird fought bravely for centuries but was repeatedly attacked for gold in its feathers. But fools could not see the Knowledge it is spreading for the well-being of humankind. So they kept attacking and robbing this bird. Few people who understood that knowledge is more valuable than gold took whatever knowledge they were able to copy and translated it to their language and then the same knowledge got copied many times by other people in the world but whatever knowledge they copied was just a spec of dust compared to the knowledge the bird itself could have given to humankind. But a great bird fought to protect its knowledge even when it lost the gold because it knew that Knowledge is more important than its golden feathers as with knowledge it can grow its golden feathers again one day. One who understands its value understand the secrets of life, death, and entire existence and supreme soul.
I live near a church that loves to bother houses near it, they will show up trying to talk all the time. So I had a sign custom made that said. “ ⚠️ this is a no conversion zone anyone in violation will be shot on sight.” Let’s just say they haven’t came back since the sign went up.
This is one of the biggest question Why both the Abrahamic religions try to convert others ?? They can't live happy or can't digest happiness of others....
Very well put! the intentions are not bad! the question is why cant I get inspired by the teachings of Jesus without leaving my own Deities? I am inspired by a lot of great beings among whom Jesus is one. If the love could be spread unconditionally then that would be a great act, however if you love someone so that one day he joins your community and do what you do, eat what you eat, wear what you wear etc, then that becomes pretty ugly! " There cant be love when there is no freedom'!!
But we want to take you to Swarga. Please accept Shiva who tamed the snake, the cause of your sin. Satan had blinded you and Shiva drank the evil poison. Love... Jai bam whole.
sorry! Shiva himself is not in Swarga, he chose to live in Kailas which could be searched on Google maps and is in earth. Swarga or heaven has never been the goal! the goal has always been consciousness or Nirvana or Kaivalya or Moksha or simply put- Freedom. This is reason why you'd see Shiva meditating most of the time! Coming to the snake now- Snakes are wonderful beings and tend to be pretty sensitive to vibrations. If your energies tend to vibrate in higher vibrations, snakes would not be looked at with fear but would be attracted towards you. This is true both on physical and ethereal planes. A person who is in Samadhi tends to be gaurded by the snake-the most poisonous one in that. Allegorically, it means that once you are conscious you could confront your fears(which a snake symbolizes) and be pretty comfortable with it.
@@lordkira3013 Are you talking to me? Bhai mere - I am a Hindu. Trying to mock the video for the reason they give to convert Hindus to Christianity. OR are you a Christian - with Max in your name???
@Rajni Kapoor Try to read before replying. I A Hindu...This is why (people like you do not understand sarcasm) those people are converting us. I am basically mocking the author of the video for his reasoning to convert Hindus.
Well, 99% of Christian converts have nothing improved their lifestyle. We call them ricebag converts for trolling. They were they people who are still living in poverty after converting. And regarding discrimination. Even if they convert to Christian still they would be discriminated by religion. The remedy I would suggest is to be a vairagi(un attached person). Accept what is there in your fate gracefully and desire for higher spiritual realms. We have no command on how people treat us but only on how we handle them. Because all successful people do this. Regarding sati. Shri Krishna has mentioned in bhagwad gita that only body dies not soul in the fire. Once life has ended the soul also become free from all relationship. So she is not her wife anymore.
Bharat always developed and rich civilization. Sanatan dharma is oldest than all religion. It has rich knowledge. Not necessary for take another religion.
Jesus is the the true light.His love can be experienced by inviting him in our heart. Here people are commenting against Christian faith. Why people send their childrens to Christian School ? Why you using the Technology invented by Christians. When you use Bus,Car, Train, Aeroplane, Computer, Electricity that time your not saying that it is from Christians !
Christan had stolen all study by Rome and distory it. All modern math science Astrology stolen by India, Nobel say earth is flat, even Indian calender but fail from date
Politicians look for POWER. God is not Linked to specific culture, so also not to specific religion. Religions are Just expression of ETHICS & cultures. Essence of all religions is show big HEART, god bless those who do GOOD.
Ya their love means love for spices,minerals, clothing and mainly land of india. This man is repeatedly using word colonisation. Sick. Is colonisation a right thing to do? And he is going to heaven. Disgusting.
Dude did I send you this Why did hinduism move from monotheism to polytheism? In the first Rigveda there was only iswara(harinya gharba and prajapati) later indians ignored that concept and worshipped Brahman (cosmic egg) Brahma vishnu and maheshwara were added later on in the vedas Surya Savarnika Manavu Ashramam is a registered Hindu Religious society vide in No. 8713/1999.It's aims and objects are diffusion of useful knowledge in the fields of Legal,Medical,Scientific,Political and philosophical for the promotion of reformative prosperous views among Hindu sects and also establish Orphanage homes,Educational Institutions.It is located at Garlavoddu @Garloddu village,Enkuru Mandal,Khammam District,Telangana State,India. ssmasramam.blogspot.com/2012/08/who-is-prajapati-view-on-rig-veda-god.html?m=1 Read the above article carefully... also about caste system wasnt there is the old vedic times
I don't agree that converting arises from "best of intentions". It is all about money, power and control. The reason why the Church is spending so much effort of conversion in India is that Hinduism presents the greatest long-term threat to Christianity (and Islam) and their agents with vested interests. As more people get educated and start inquiring and thinking about other religions, they will see the fallacies of Christianity (and Islam). In the West, the first step will be to become atheists. But this will not last long, as the they will eventually try to find answers to the mysteries of life and will turn to spirituality and seek answers from other religions. In Hinduism, they will be astonished at how profound the Upanishads and other texts are, and how the ancient rishis have applied logical construction to arrive at their conclusions, in a manner that would even make Plato blush. In Hinduism, they will find a religion that does not contradict science and in fact promotes it. They will begin to like an approach to life that combines humanity, regard for other creatures and environment, spirituality, physical and mental well-being and free thinking spirit in a completely a completely wholesome unit.
True that. Astonished to search the total number of christian conversion all over the world. It is not just an Indian problem. Whole of southern africa and south east asia is christian.
And the astronomical dating of every ammendment made in the Vedas. We hindus are so ignorant about our past. They did excursions at all the Mahabharata sites and found a civilization streching from indus valley to ganges and to the northern gujarat. And the present cities which are mentioned in Vedas are today the living example of 6000 years old civilization. We r really dumb. No civilization as old as ours exists today not even close, with all the textual, geographical and astronomical history.
One president of Africa said ,when Christian's came we had land they had Bible in their hands , After that we had Bible and they had our land in their hands.
All those who are converted by cruelty become cruel people because they are convinced that God is cruel and His religion wants us to practise cruelty only.
What the hell are you Indians smoking? In the last two days I somehow stumbled across this kind of content, and you guys are all over the place with conspiracy theories and ignorance and utter lies. There is no conspiracy by the American government to convert you. There were Christians in India since 56 AD. You may not have known, but they were. It is documented fact. No one is forcing Dalits to convert. They are just tired of being treated like refuse for no reason.
You may read the book 'Myth of St.Thomas and Mylapore Shiva Temple' which proves that no Chriistians in India before 3rd or 4th century. Regarding forced corversion it is evident all over. Moreover, they continue to be dalits even after conversion among Christians. All these are open facts. I think denying them only stretches the debate and wastes our time..
@@bryanbridges2987 u are so dumb bro. Please search the total number of people converted to Christianity worldwide. This is not just an indian problem. U see the whole of south east asia has converted to Christianity in the past. U see how japan was converted. Africa is a living example. Only Christians are behind muslims in conversions all over the world. It is present and well funded. How naive u r to think otherwise. With such reports of churches being so corrupt. Please check the amount Vatican sends worldwide to propogate religion. What the fuck is propogate religion. Religion is personal. That too forced conversions with lure of money. The south of india has seen such large extent of it. Please visit the outskirts of one of the oldest city of india, Vishakhapatnam and u wud amazed to see the number of churches that popped up in no time.
It's TRUE that the common Christian believes he/ she is doing it for the good of others. They believe it is their duty to bring others into Christianity and that somehow if they do it, Jesus would be very happy with them and their place in heaven would be secured. The key question is : " Who is responsible for brainwashing them this?" What is the motive of that key committee who has this created this belief system in the common catholic masses and sent them out like disguised armies to spread their tentacles. Surely their motive is not so noble. This is a thought out strategy .... to get soft ( as against military ) power over the people! Formal, structured and congregation-demanding religions of such kind are aimed at gaining crowd acquiescence. Compare this to hinduism that relies largely on your own inner awakening ascended privately / militarily in meditation. Between the 2 scenarios which do you think would lead to better political mileage for a leader?
Sorry to tell that they are paid, all of them, definitely in India. They don't feel it to be their duty. They sell pamplets, bring in new people and in return gets their daily bread.
I think it's all about power and controlling the world man.... More people means more power.. christianity and islam is about competition to get more power..
13.44 - as per the need of the times and change in the generation, we people of dharmam change the changes, We do not need this religion of conversion.
Loved this video. I had completed my schooling in convent school but no faculty try to convert me. But my rice bag converts neighbours tried a lot to convince me to leave Hinduism and become Christian. Which I found absurd. Why would Jesus need you mear mortal to follow him or he will make you suffer in hell. Jesus is not mean week devil but a wise divine soul.
Christians quote about casteism in India. But they do not realize that introducing Christianity causes divisions in the society this time in the name of religion.
I have immense respect for Dr. but we cannot ignore the nefarious reasons why Church is doing the conversions via various charities in India & other countries. I don't think anyone questions a Christian believer or has any problem with them, it is the institution we need to be vary of and be skeptic about.
Christianity was introduced by St Thomas in India. He converted only Brahmins during his time are called Roman Catholics RC. So the RC has got prejudicism towards Latin Christian who where fishermen converted by the Portuguese. But the Interesting fact is that they are also belongs to Brahmin community, they got underrated due to consuming fish in the early times. Cast system can survive even in christianity. Cheers.
Wrong, H2O, sorry! St. Thomas founded Churches such as Mar Thoma. The Portuguese Catholics arrived in the 15th century and were quite horrified to find this ancient Christianity, called them heretics, brought the Inquistion to wipe out not only Hinduism but Thomas Christianity too.
There is no evidence for this, it is another narrative created by vested interests. If you repeat a lie a thousand times, it doesn't necessarily become the truth, to some it does unfortunately.
At 0.54 you said it’s a mistake to identify (Christian) mission with the colonial enterprise. My comment is : the christian proselytizing mission and western imperialism has always go hand-in-hand. Christianity has always been a tool for imperialism (if you could unified people into the same faith then it would be easy control and rule over them).
Dude did I send you this Why did hinduism move from monotheism to polytheism? In the first Rigveda there was only iswara(harinya gharba and prajapati) later indians ignored that concept and worshipped Brahman (cosmic egg) Brahma vishnu and maheshwara were added later on in the vedas Surya Savarnika Manavu Ashramam is a registered Hindu Religious society vide in No. 8713/1999.It's aims and objects are diffusion of useful knowledge in the fields of Legal,Medical,Scientific,Political and philosophical for the promotion of reformative prosperous views among Hindu sects and also establish Orphanage homes,Educational Institutions.It is located at Garlavoddu @Garloddu village,Enkuru Mandal,Khammam District,Telangana State,India. ssmasramam.blogspot.com/2012/08/who-is-prajapati-view-on-rig-veda-god.html?m=1 Read the above article carefully... also about caste system wasnt there is the old vedic times
@@amarkantkumar4233 bro this G. NRR guy is a bot or some paid shit. He keeps changing topics and says such sexual and depressing things about hinduism in the entire comment section. But he keeps changing topic and doesn't reply to the answers.
Sir, I am still okay to go to hell, is there any issue? I love Hinduism, I love Christianity. If you follow anything still you are a Hindu. Hindu mean adaptation. We have no rules to follow, just follow whatever is right in your mind follow that.
Sir you are true but what is the proof of Sati system. We Sanatanis have records from ages in Har ki pauri haridwar Where cremated ashes were broughted But I haven't seen any of my grandfather and grandmother ash brought there on same date and month. Even any of my relative whose Purohit we able to talk have same records. Therefore the sati is not in our family Or it is just a made-up thing.
Hindu gods are victorious... they are not pathetically burnt are hanged ....a victorious can be the saviour only..one who can't save himself how can he save you..the female s are honoured as Shakti only in Hinduism..the theory of karma moksha ..the self enlightenment is the ultimate goal of human birth..feel proud to be a Hindu
I think u all know about kanniyakumari dist ,tamilnadu..it was once hindu majority area but now it became a christian majority the reason is DMK party who got a lot money from missionaries ,gave permission to churches to get these minorities VOTE BANK
Religion is a once Thought-a life style and when you impose a religion on millions, you are imposing a thought on millions or billions! Its like if some one likes to walk upside down, you impose that walking style on them!
Hindus want self to go to heaven, Christian want fellow men to go to heaven but it's only Islam that not only self but also take with them others really heaven. BOOM!!! they take us all...
People who say that others should not accept the faith of their choice are imposing their will on others. Whether we like or not millions of people will leave their born religion and decide not to practice or join other faiths. It happened everywhere and will happen in India too. No power on this earth can stop people do what they like regarding their matter of religion. It's their private affair
Most Christian are not real Christian because they do not follow the teaching of Jesus. 1) Jesus Prey to God. 2) Jesus Fast. 3) Jesus was Sercumsized 4) Jesus did not say he was god (If he was god who did he prey to?) 5) Christian celebrate Christmas but Jesus was not born in December 25. He was born in Summer, etc etc
Dr Koenraad knows what the audience wants to hear. He however succeeds to show that hindus fail to abolish sati though they had tried from rig Veda times.
Answer is simple, the pastors and Bishops are having a field day living off the donations given by the common folks. Besides they have Nuns available at their beck and call. Perks are the information they collect and use during confession sessions. People of India beware and don’t fall into their Hell and Heaven concepts.
Nuns are not at the beck and call. The nuns and priests are not allowed to go about freely, wherever they want to go. They have curfew. It is only one case in India, and what is baffling is how this incident happened when there is so much strict rules for nuns and priests.
What is said in confession is highly confidential, however some stupid priests opened thier stupid mouths and caused the controversy. The priests has to make a promise that he will not tell the confession truths to others.
@@banubanu1136 - harassment/ rape is found to be universal, more in Catholic Churches. Just read news an check out how many times the Pope had to apologize to the victims.
@@banubanu1136 - why don’t the people confess directly to God/ son of God/ Mother Mary? . I think you are not updated about the happenings in Kerala Churches
@@santosh5684 i am talking about Kerala incident only. In Kerala, a few priests have broken the promise of confidentiality. Confession is there only in Catholic Church, and the priest has to promise that he will maintain confidentiality. Other Churches, confess directly , not to any person.
Well said TintuPintu.I support yr comment and second it.This man with one leg in his grave how could he talk like this.Such people have no respect for any religion The best way to please God is to follow humanity love each other and contribute yr best in maintaining peace among all mankind.
If they want good of us then why max Muller distorted sculptures and history of India.. you think it's for good ..no sir ..it's hatred..and no other religions can stand Infront of sanatan philosophy..
Conversion is not for others good it is the result of insecurity that there are many people not under the influence of what we believe as true... And thus its an effort to make themselves feel happy.
What is so noble in telling people that the gods they worship are false...not only false but Satan or Satanic? What is so noble in thinking that only one's religion is the truth and others are direly mistaken? What is so noble in being blind and deaf to truth in one's bigotedness?
So go to d Muslim countries u r all related first cousins I believe we Hindus don’t believe in conversion it’s d two ibrahamic religions. Do conversion so I want to go to hell per your equation as I love my hindu faith stop spinning a gentle way of conversion sir people r born with a free will and we r seekers we don’t believe. Remember d bible has seven or eight editions so go into deep meditation sir with no disrespect stop spinning g we don’t believe we sinners
Interesting angle. I studied in a Christian school and also have known many for over 25 years. Not once did either the missionaries in the school or people I know every try to suggest conversion. Rather there was always mutual respect and mutual celebration of festivals like Diwali and Christmas. I have also been reading up on different histories out of academic interest, and interestingly the concept of Karma is also there in Christianity. The iconography of the halo around the head of religious figures comes from Mithraism which was an ancient Indo-Persian religion. The mainstream churches no longer seek to convert. There is also a lot of interfaith discussions that happen. A Hindu can marry a Christian and continue to remain a Hindu. Given the current global demographic trends, it is essential for Hindus and Christians to understand each other and work together. This is probably also the thinking in the US with President Trump reaching out to PM Modi with so much affection. The people who try to convert are from new fangled sects and go by different names. Ironically these sects are shunned by the mainstream Churches and even by missionary schools. The general Catholic or Christian population respect and are also a lot more comfortable with Hindus rather than any other religion. This has been my experience and I believe we should live and let live in harmony.
Please Go to kanyakumari dist and Ramanathapuram dists of Tamilnadu...You will surely understand Harmony...Hahaha...Religion of Love and Religion of Peace are doing great job there
@@Soni25242 Its because this is what we Hindu are, every other religion in insecure about themselves & want everyone else to join them, but we have the freedom to choose our own path in our lives.
@@Soni25242 Really!! What nonsense are you talking? They will never be the majority. You are barking up the wrong tree. You need to be more concerned about ISIS. Focus on what is most important. You are losing sight of what is really the problem.
truth is always hard to digest, try to open your eye a little bit whoever you are. reality of christian missionary's history are same as Islamic invaders in India , the path is little diffarant but in the end they are all same.
Christianity is one way of attaining salvation or living life. Hinduism has purposely gone polytheistic from monotheistic. This could be to maintain a significant identity of the civilisation which formed the centre of the world. They had good roads climate mountains rivers soil etc. People migrated from all over to this side of river Sindhu. Those migrated from eastern europeans parts and western Asia perhaps couldnt say S of Sindhu so they called it Indu. Gradually it became Hindu. Meanwhile some of the sages meditated in the mountains for years apparently and brought down 4 vedas.. The first rig veda didnt have caste system and didnt have the 3 trinity Gods Brahma Vishnu maheshwara. It only had the self existent God harinyagarbha from whom came the first born prajapati through whom all things came. Thus perhaps began the extra multiple Gods stories temples etc.. The abrahamic religions only believe in the creator God..and his Angel's. Even God couldnt trust his angels as one of them deceived God himself. So he cast away one third of his angels down.. To earth. Christian's feel that these angels are now part of satan's team spreading wrong things, instigating wrong things in peoples mind etc.. They also feel some must have mated with humans and this some idols we see are weird. Multiple hands etc. But that's a myth. Dont take it seriously.
WHY???WHY???WHY??? *ANSWER IS : JESUS CHRIST COMMANDED IT* Matthews 28:18-20 18. Then Jesus came up and said to them, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. 19. Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit, 20. teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And remember, I am with you always, to the end of the age.
I hate conversion of any kind, in fact, in my opinion, 99% of conversions in poor countries are done under compulsion of some kind.
Totally untrue. Just shows your ignorance..
fedoracore321 just shows your fanaticism. Totally true, have lived through this.
@@greymanBB99% of the conversion?? You are truly ignorant
The very idea of conversion is manipulation. One is most welcome to go deep into their spiritual journeys but such will not attach themselves to a religion.
@@drd.n4695 just shows your ignorance and the lack of understanding of the Bible and it's impact on the modern world. Feel really sorry for you 😢😔😔😔😢😢😢
‘Wherever Christianity went, alcohol, drugs and prostitution followed, just take a look of South America!’ Michael Bentine, 1989.
Very true
Infact I heard dat , st Xavier's church in Goa is built on a shiv mandir😡😠...n Christians mutilated the hands of Hindus who continued to practice Hinduism after being baptized...
@activelink activdisc Yet the brutal was declared a saint due to his service to christianity by succeeding in coverting a large number of the locals in India & SEA during colonial period. Those converted still remain as christians till todate.
@Reaper lethal Where do you live? India was first a victim of Islam for hundreds of years and then the British. Before the British arrived in India, Indians had about 25% of all the worlds trade. By the time the British left 90 years later [1857-1947] it was less than 4%. Shashi Tharoor had done a very famous speech at the Oxford [University] Union on this. This was much discussed later ua-cam.com/video/f7CW7S0zxv4/v-deo.html and ua-cam.com/video/JMNkfQwkRC4/v-deo.html Please to watch this for your own information they are well worth watching.
It is estimated that Britain robbed India of around £45 000,000,000,000 ie 45 Trillion pounds. The British siphoned this money off back to Britain to use for their own purposes. The Muslim Sultans and Mughals however decided to stay in India probably because they didn't want to go back to the deserts from where they had escaped. I'd be pleased to hear from you and thank you for an interest in this topic.
@Reaper lethal hmm bt Jesus is nt God. .
India was perfect in itself...there was no need for anything....no imposition is required.... Hinduism is enough....for india....let everyone be unique so like India...
India was a mess...just shows your ignorance
@Chandru Xrays You must be kidding. Buddhism is a result of the evils the Buddha saw in Hinduism.
@Chandru XraysIf there were no conflicts why did Ambedkar become a buddhist rejecting Hinduism? Both ideologies are fundamentally different. You are living in fantasy world believing there are no conflicts...
@Chandru Xrays What do you mean?
India was fuckedup country .
The angle Mr Elst has taken is interesting.
Don't demonize the missionaries, but defeat them at their own game, in this case their belief system. But sadly most of the Hindus who are converted are economically vulnerable and promise of aid is a big motivator. They are also naive about their own religion. Our temples need to change, they need to support some form of the gurukul system which was destroyed under colonialism.
first the temples needs to be free from the control of states .so that temples economy can be used for funding gurukúls and vedic education.
100000% correct.
True that..
Totally untrue...
The temples need to get back to their roots ... and we need our Brahmins and others to spread the roots of our religion ...
And most importantly, we as Hindus, must be willing to help our own downtrodden. The apathy displayed has become Dalits' insurmountable anger. Let's take responsibility for our lapses.
I am from Kerala and we face this people almost every day during my childhood from 1990s till 2014s. Now it has reduced in Kerala,but I know this happens rampantly in Tamil Nadu,Karnataka,Andhra in such a way that it can become like what happened to population in Northeast Nagaland,Mizoram, Arunachal, Manipur. Just google how the population changed from Indigenous or Hindu to full Christian within 20 to 30 years.
True
It is also happening across Southeast Asia and East Asia now, not only in India.
They seem very determined to convert all.
Christianity saying I don't want to go to hell. I want to see you go to heaven. Hindu say well if I will show you heaven on earth. Do meditation developed your consciousness. Then you can find heaven on earth.
కోరుకుంటే వచ్చేది మోక్షమా!!!? కోరికలు నశించి. మన కర్మలకు(కాలితే) పైవాడిచ్చే కరుణ.లేక (పచ్చిగా, అచ్చ తెలుగులో) బిచ్చం
కంచంనిండా చెత్తతో వెడితే వడ్డించేవాడు కూడా బూతులు తిట్టి .....ఇది సామాజిక నిజం
You have to understand that Christianity and Islam are NOTHING before our Dharma ... the former were created to exert control over the masses. Dharma wants one to come out of all conditioning. Dharma wants one to look within and realize our true nature. Dharma is unconcerned about controlling people.
And we can always acknowledge the good in the other (I like the Good Shepherd) ... but I will never support Abrahamics' clerical system and their absolutism aka arrogance. Suffocating lots.
Meditation is not cup of tea of those who are not wealthy and have not satisfied their body and Mind. Most of the Indians belong to medium and poor family. They can't do meditation as Buddha or Mahavir did as they were Prince and had everything. Christianity is taking advantage of the poorness of Indians as Poor person always expect magic, a magic that can change his life. This is the simple formula.
@@sageofkalyug cant do meditation just go to temple and do some meditation where there is shiva temple and do your karma meditation or karma is the best thing the human can do...
@AridYes I agree. Middle class is expert at praying and expect Magic.
What about Goa inquisition, is it because of love?
YES !! If you scream out for salvation while burning alive you’re bound to heaven upon finishing!!!
Being malabari i know well about it. Bkos kongini speak people staying in kerala. & in big fan of shifali
Present conversations :. Will they teach the truth by (so called) GOD
L U S T
Those are Catholics not Christians
I am Sanatani and proud. 🙏🏻🙏🏻
In recent times....I have seen many westerners adapting and understanding, dedicating their lives in Indian society.. Many equip themselves with the Indic knowledge and live in India and spend their lives dispelling the malice and falsehoods of Hinduism. ...I see this Sir also as one of them. ..and want to say a heartfelt Thank you for the commendable efforts 🙏🙏👍👍
He is an academic with neutral political alignment and hence speaks the truth
Hindus there is a different place call Moksh or Nirwan. We do not like heaven or hell concept. Our God does not peeks into the bedroom to check any sins.
@Arid Dharma is personalized. There is no hard coding. What is good for one may not be good for other. There is no commandment.
@Arid Who told you. There is no rule no commandment. Even you can be atheist or agnostic in Hinduism.
@Arid Fact Check: Agreed, whatever you said is correct and every Sanatan Dharmi with facts and logic will agree that Devatas and Asuras were born out of proper reproduction and Diti being a wife expressed her natural desire, no issues every being or creature is born out of natural reproduction process unlike a "might be messiah born out of virgin mother"(Very Pratical).😉 In one sentence "khata is Desh ki or gaata us faith ki jo yaha ki hai he nai😅🤣"
Moksh is not a place. It is the freedom from the cycle of birth and death
Doesnt Shiva have a 3rd eye? That 3rd eye if for you in the bedroom baby
There is everything wrong with the motive because if they really "love" then they will love Hindus for who they are. The motive is wrong because it stands on the false statement of love and heaven and hell.
If they want love, love as is why conversion. Why not Jews. Love any body without disturbing their beliefs and culture
That's right
Firstly man fighting on religion is a no no. People should live in harmony with each other as we all come from the same place and we all go to the same place.
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Christians pethaps feel hinduism created the trinity Gods B V and M and other dieties which weren't there before. That said it was India's private business of what to do and not.
This they termed as idols.
The original first rig veda only had the golden egg concept or hiranya garbha or prajapathi. Swayambhu was the self existent God and prajapathi was his first born thru which everythjng was made.
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Rig veda 10.90 also talks about Purusa the primodoral cosmic man.and prajapathi who sacrifices himself for Brahman or whatever and his pieces live in animals and man..and the entire universe..
Prajapati wanted this sacrifice to be remembered n repeated by man....
Read on..
www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Prajapati
May be christianity borrowed Prajapathi or Purusa as Jesus the sacrificed lamb.
However, no connection was as important as that made in the Brahmanas between Prajapati and Purusha, the primordial cosmic man. In Rg Veda 10.90, Purusha is credited with an immense act of self-sacrifice that brought the world into being. Like Purusha, Prajapati is also said to have sacrificed himself, resulting in the various divisions of empirical reality. Most importantly, his constituents became brahman, the sacred verbal power that was thought to mitigate the cleavage between human beings and the divine, and consequently became the lynchpin of all Vedic sacrifice. The remainder of Prajapati's constituents dispersed to create gods, humans, animals, and the rest of the phenomenal world. Thus, Prajapati gained his initial significance in the sacrificial drama. The Vedas insisted humans must must repeat this original primordial sacrificial event regularly in order to renew all aspects of space and time that Prajapati had originally put into place by way of his self-immolation.
The last line says the sacrifice needs to be repeated. That's the holy mass in churches perhaps to commemorate the sacrifice of Purusa or Prajapati..
Temples perhaps remember the others Gods n goddesses rather than prajapathi. So Christian's hijacked prajapathi perhaps???????
One has to be true or both false.
Truth cannot be two..
Missionaries started their work in India some 5 centuries ago but they met with little success. Even during the colonial era the british were not keen on letting missionaries upset the system and thereby depriving them of the cash cow that was India. Only after India's independence and after a seven decade long congress rule have the missionaries achieved their goal of converting entire states in the northeast into christianity. Even in the southern states of Andhra, Tamilnadu and Kerala the last 20 years has seen an aggressive posture by the church in converting almost half of the dalit population to christianity. This was aided and funded by the US government as state policy under the JOSHUA PROJECT. So what Dr Koenraad Elst says about the christians wanting to convert the hindus out of love is only partially true. There is much more to church conversions nowadays, it is part of GEOPOLITICS game played by the US government. How else would you explain all the church sponsored protests of the koodankulam nuclear power plant, and many other protests before the 2019 lok sabha elections.
Conversion by Church in Andhra Pradesh Tamil Nadu Kerala is control thorium for Americans. Monozite rich beaches of abovementioned states have thorium. India large reserves of them. Many rare earth elements are also found in India. Look what happened in Bolivia
Agreed. Ban the missionaries
That time people were following traditions. But it has been centuries people studied about vedas
Thank you Indic studies team for enlightenment. And fact based analysis of Indic civilization and highlighting evil intentions to carefully destroy Hindu way of living.
We have to implement Gurukul system and support poorest people to make ghar vapasi
We have to make foundation like jakat muslim foundation
My problem is with the motive and the hatred they inculcate in the converts.
@activelink activdisc
So true..they transform..
We don't spread hatred kindly get the fact
@@jeevangeorge7225 Christianity is pure hate when it preaches one true religion, and ithers are false
@@peoplesrepublicofunitedear2337 it is not hate we don't spread towards anyone ok
@@jeevangeorge7225 yaa you do. True God! The statement itself is hate.
This is a very generous view of evangelism given what Christianity has done to the countries of Africa, South America, Philippines. Those are terrible advertisements for Christianity. Churchianity is the more apt title for that so-called "religion". It has been just a greedy power grab since the Councils of Nicaea that twisted the original teachings of Jesus to suit the Roman Empire and now the Vatican.
Read the below article carefully.. how Brahma Vishnu maheshwara were not in the old rig veda and were added later on. How prajapati is the creator of the universe and also about caste system wasnt there is the old vedic times
Surya Savarnika Manavu Ashramam is a registered Hindu Religious society vide in No. 8713/1999.It's aims and objects are diffusion of useful knowledge in the fields of Legal,Medical,Scientific,Political and philosophical for the promotion of reformative prosperous views among Hindu sects and also establish Orphanage homes,Educational Institutions.It is located at Garlavoddu @Garloddu village,Enkuru Mandal,Khammam District,Telangana State,India.
ssmasramam.blogspot.com/2012/08/who-is-prajapati-view-on-rig-veda-god.html?m=1
Most awesome take on it. His sense of humor when he is still taking seriously is something to learn from.
This is exposing missionary in the most true manner. There is no argument left after that.
Ooooo!!!!!! I am a hindu, I wish your betterment & I pull you from cycles of "birth and death" also from "heaven and hell" ,only to converting you into "Sanatan Dharmic Tradition".It give you Moksha. Oh! wow far better than Abrahamic philosophy.
Respected Professor Koenraad Elst : Sir , you are one of my heroes. I have read many of your books. You are a great friend of India and a great supporter and defender of Hinduism. I know you are a soft spoken gentleman, but somehow I expect harsher criticism from you regarding Christianity. I think you should speak in the negative about Christianity from start to finish so that no one can misquote you out of context. I will make further comments as I am listening to this video for the second time.
Between 2:39 and 3:13 you said that the missionaries say that they come because they love us (Hindus).....and that we are nice people, non-violent and spiritual people, but Jesus is missing. Now my comment : it is so contradictory......Jesus said : “Known a tree by its fruits.” Here the missionaries are admitting that the Hindu fruits are good and sweet , but we need Jesus ??? What hypocrites !!!
Jesus said it as a criterion among Christians not something associated to non believers , it makes is easy to differentiate true Christians from false and true Jews from hypocrite pharasies .
How ridiculous to believe that one will go to heaven by merely changing religion and not by his deeds and actions!!! That itself goes to show that how unscientific such religions are!
No one goes to heaven by converting to Christianity. After converting, they have to follow several rules of the Church, only then , they can go to heaven
The teachings of Jesus are similar to the tenets of hinduism and it can be considered as one of the ways of attaining salvation. Or living life on earth more than salvation..jesus says what you sow on earth that you shall sow after life.
Thus, basically it is ur actions that will lead to ur salvation, no matter to which religion one belongs. This being the TRUTH, why some religions try to denigrate other religions?
@@ramakrishnaraopappu6449 correct, one should believe in one own religion, and do good deeds. And should not denigrate other religions. Every religion has its own principles.
@@ramakrishnaraopappu6449
That's right bro.
Firstly man fighting on religion is a no no. People should live in harmony with each other as we all come from the same place and we all go to the same place.
.
Christians pethaps feel hinduism created the trinity Gods B V and M and other dieties which weren't there before. That said it was India's private business of what to do and not.
This they termed as idols.
The original first rig veda only had the golden egg concept or hiranya garbha or prajapathi. Swayambhu was the self existent God and prajapathi was his first born thru which everythjng was made.
.
Rig veda 10.90 also talks about Purusa the primodoral cosmic man.and prajapathi who sacrifices himself for Brahman or whatever and his pieces live in animals and man..and the entire universe..
Prajapati wanted this sacrifice to be remembered n repeated by man....
Read on..
www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Prajapati
May be christianity borrowed Prajapathi or Purusa as Jesus the sacrificed lamb.
However, no connection was as important as that made in the Brahmanas between Prajapati and Purusha, the primordial cosmic man. In Rg Veda 10.90, Purusha is credited with an immense act of self-sacrifice that brought the world into being. Like Purusha, Prajapati is also said to have sacrificed himself, resulting in the various divisions of empirical reality. Most importantly, his constituents became brahman, the sacred verbal power that was thought to mitigate the cleavage between human beings and the divine, and consequently became the lynchpin of all Vedic sacrifice. The remainder of Prajapati's constituents dispersed to create gods, humans, animals, and the rest of the phenomenal world. Thus, Prajapati gained his initial significance in the sacrificial drama. The Vedas insisted humans must must repeat this original primordial sacrificial event regularly in order to renew all aspects of space and time that Prajapati had originally put into place by way of his self-immolation.
The last line says the sacrifice needs to be repeated. That's the holy mass in churches perhaps to commemorate the sacrifice of Purusa or Prajapati..
Temples perhaps remember the others Gods n goddesses rather than prajapathi. So Christian's hijacked prajapathi perhaps???????
One has to be true or both false.
Truth cannot be two..
It is a little too much to glorify the missionaries as acting out of love. Human beings mostly act out of self interest , and in this case it is about improving one's chance to go to heaven. India interests them because of its huge non Christian population. In hindus they find a soft target. Why don't they convert the Muslims in India and other developing countries? Colonialism helped them with huge lands and network in India. They get huge funds from abroad for the specific object of converting. It is not charity per se but a subtle bargain.
This aspect of their religion cannot stand the test of modern thinking about the role of religion in individual and social realms. Europe and US are seeing a significant reduction in church goers. The land if its origin viz middle East is predominantly Muslim. Christianity in reality got a fillip as a political ideology associated with Roman emperor Constantine, and saw its growth phase with active state sponsorship until the middle ages. With renaissance, this narrowly focused religion was challenged in Europe and it has never been same thereafter.
Infact , East India company resented missionaries following them as it would cause more headache to them in managing business with natives. The British crown eventually saw an opportunity to brainwash natives through conversion and make them dis-own their indian origin and identity. That was a clever way to perpetuate colonial rule without having to put any significant number of Britishers on ground to rule a large country like India. Exaggeration of casteism , imposing a biased educational curriculum etc were the other tricks done with the same end objective. The Christians who settled 2000 years ago in Malabar were not into proselytising. Then why this later entrants made conversion their mission.
It is time our constitution circumscribes the scope of freedom to propagate religion by banning any act amounting to proselytising, including targeting of young minds attending schools run by Jesuits. These schools will offer same curricula as any other school . It is a different matter that an individual after due study of religion wishes to convert of his own volition. In sum, India must clearly convey that fundamental right to religion cannot extend to denigrating other religions or actively converting others as these acts cannot be religious acts as understood in modern times
I HOPE THE SAME GOES WITH BJP'S GHARWAAPSI PROGRAM WHICH FAILED TERRIBLY. SO STOP SPREADING THESE BASELESS ARGUMENTS ABOUT ONLY CHRISTIANS TRYING TO CONVERT HINDUS. 😂😂😂
@@anurag3619 And perhaps you are one such rice christian or a leftie who wants to see the culture of Bharat being destroyed
@@anurag3619 Rice bags are in desperate condition. The veil of goodness has gone with the wind. The Satan can be seen in full glory.
@@muralivenkataraman5922 Bharat is a mixture of different cultures. If you think that only Hinduism is the one true culture India is entitled to, then you're so much in the wrong. India is a multicultural country where you got to respect every culture be it Hinduism, Buddhism, Sikhism, Christianity or Islam. You have got to respect every religion and every culture so I am opposed against any kind of extremist reaction against any community. I would recommend to keep your prejudices apart and think critically. I am condemning the Gharwaapsi programme that was in force a few years but utterly flopped due to its unsecular overtones.
Am mj true culture of india is hinduism(the way its practiced in different places),jainism,buddhism amd sikhism.Atleast pisslam and christianity is not the culture pf indian origin.
Hmmm, having written a book on religion called "A Way Beyond Religion," (which is on Amazon) I can say I know a little bit about this subject. Christianity probably got a home in India long before it did in Europe even, with the arrival of the Apostle Thomas (Saint Thomas) and there is a Church in Chennai and even a hill called St. Thomas Mount, over which planes fly to land at the airport. When the Portuguese Catholics arrived in the 15th century they were horrified to discover this ancient Christianity. They went about trying their best to destroy Thomas Christianity, calling them heretics. The Catholics then brought the brutal Inquisition to India, mainly to Goa. They tortured and killed our Hindus, particularly Brahmins, if they refused to convert. The British were more gentle, relatively speaking, but they also tried very hard to destroy Hindu culture and belief. So much so people like Nehru became so westernized that Nehru was kind of ashamed of being a Hindu, really. The Congress party while seemingly "secular" was not supportive of Hinduism at all. The overwhelming success of the BJP has revealed how badly Indians think about the corrupt sick Congress party. Their leaders have drained vast amounts of money out of India in to Swiss and other accounts.
Anyhow, the heart of Christian belief is the idea of SALVATION. Which means to be "Saved" from the fires of hell. They believe that only a total belief and surrender to their Lord Jesus Christ can lead to salvation. Muslims believe that surrender to Allah is necessary to be saved from the fires of hell. In recent times the Hindu Swami Narayan movement claims that there is no salvation without surrender to Lord Krishna according to their Shikshapatri. (obviously they did their homework first, and learned the lessons of Christianity). Such madness in religion.
Whereas most of us Hindus are kept totally ignorant of the profound, magnificent teachings of our Vedas particularly the Upanishads. There is ONE magnificent mind/energy that pervades the universe, and you and I are tiny fragments of that. We can be secure in that feeling, that there is no hellfire or damnation. Our souls (aathma) are immortal and indestructible; our souls may choose to come back in another human form or they may not. This subject would take an entire book to discuss so I'll stop there.
Most of Europe has pretty much rejected Christianity. In the USA, Christians have become more radicalized, leading to the election of Trump and his anti-Muslim beliefs. They, with the political power of the Republican party, want to make America Christian. "Make America Great Again" implies "Make America Christian Again." And bring Bibles into schools and government offices, which has been prohibited since the declaration of Independence. This is a movement of desperation, as people are leaving their churches in huge numbers. Which is why they are desperate to spread the religion in the rest of the world.
Well Sir. Your research is commendable. Brahman is eternal and unchangeable. But under the influence of Maya the individual soul believes itself to be the body it's put in.
Hence this world is existent. Swarga and narka and the process of transmigration.
The shastras of sanatana dharma are very transparent, at least in this regard. Upanishads are very lofty and difficult to comprehend. Especially to one not on the path of moksha. Which is almost everyone.
Thanks for exposing these things sir.
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It’s not them, it’s Jesus who loves them and they are to share the gospel!
The sarcasm mr. Koenrad has is unmatched. He basically is roasting them throughout the whole video. Jay Sri ram 🙏🏻
People will continue to evolve and there is no end to it.. People will change religion if they want. Information is flowing freely and there is no need for anyone to seek converts. If anyone wants to change his religion or faith, no force on this Earth can stop it. So such laws expose the insecurity of some people.. People are no longer restricted by narrow domestic walls. Ideas will continue to pour like rain or ideological tsunamis can strike.
If you want your ideology to survive take the path of debate.
Let us have friendly debates.
Once there was a Bird of golden wings that was flying high and shining like a bright star in the night sky emitting knowledge and spiritual wellness. Dark forces could not resist looking at this great bird, they saw a golden bird decided to steal gold from its wings. The bird fought bravely for centuries but was repeatedly attacked for gold in its feathers. But fools could not see the Knowledge it is spreading for the well-being of humankind. So they kept attacking and robbing this bird. Few people who understood that knowledge is more valuable than gold took whatever knowledge they were able to copy and translated it to their language and then the same knowledge got copied many times by other people in the world but whatever knowledge they copied was just a spec of dust compared to the knowledge the bird itself could have given to humankind. But a great bird fought to protect its knowledge even when it lost the gold because it knew that Knowledge is more important than its golden feathers as with knowledge it can grow its golden feathers again one day. One who understands its value understand the secrets of life, death, and entire existence and supreme soul.
sati was not in practice 1100 years ago and it was not followed by all sanathanas ...
it was not compulsory
I live near a church that loves to bother houses near it, they will show up trying to talk all the time. So I had a sign custom made that said. “ ⚠️ this is a no conversion zone anyone in violation will be shot on sight.” Let’s just say they haven’t came back since the sign went up.
Hahaha
This is America, in God we trust also this man:
This is one of the biggest question
Why both the Abrahamic religions try to convert others ??
They can't live happy or can't digest happiness of others....
That's an interesting perspective. Thank you, sir.
Very well put! the intentions are not bad! the question is why cant I get inspired by the teachings of Jesus without leaving my own Deities? I am inspired by a lot of great beings among whom Jesus is one. If the love could be spread unconditionally then that would be a great act, however if you love someone so that one day he joins your community and do what you do, eat what you eat, wear what you wear etc, then that becomes pretty ugly! " There cant be love when there is no freedom'!!
But we want to take you to Swarga. Please accept Shiva who tamed the snake, the cause of your sin. Satan had blinded you and Shiva drank the evil poison. Love...
Jai bam whole.
sorry! Shiva himself is not in Swarga, he chose to live in Kailas which could be searched on Google maps and is in earth. Swarga or heaven has never been the goal! the goal has always been consciousness or Nirvana or Kaivalya or Moksha or simply put- Freedom. This is reason why you'd see Shiva meditating most of the time! Coming to the snake now- Snakes are wonderful beings and tend to be pretty sensitive to vibrations. If your energies tend to vibrate in higher vibrations, snakes would not be looked at with fear but would be attracted towards you. This is true both on physical and ethereal planes. A person who is in Samadhi tends to be gaurded by the snake-the most poisonous one in that. Allegorically, it means that once you are conscious you could confront your fears(which a snake symbolizes) and be pretty comfortable with it.
You don't know any thing about shiva !
Shiva is beyond your imagination . Heaven and hell are contained within Shiva only .
@@lordkira3013 Are you talking to me? Bhai mere - I am a Hindu. Trying to mock the video for the reason they give to convert Hindus to Christianity. OR are you a Christian - with Max in your name???
@Rajni Kapoor
Try to read before replying. I A Hindu...This is why (people like you do not understand sarcasm) those people are converting us. I am basically mocking the author of the video for his reasoning to convert Hindus.
@Rajni Kapoor Still no response- seems you are the convert?
Ok you are right. Why don’t you teach this to the missionaries.
Well, 99% of Christian converts have nothing improved their lifestyle. We call them ricebag converts for trolling. They were they people who are still living in poverty after converting. And regarding discrimination. Even if they convert to Christian still they would be discriminated by religion. The remedy I would suggest is to be a vairagi(un attached person). Accept what is there in your fate gracefully and desire for higher spiritual realms. We have no command on how people treat us but only on how we handle them. Because all successful people do this.
Regarding sati. Shri Krishna has mentioned in bhagwad gita that only body dies not soul in the fire. Once life has ended the soul also become free from all relationship. So she is not her wife anymore.
Those hindu who are converted will come back
I am an Indian Christian and glad to be one.
Baptism DOES NOT SAVE YOU OR ANYONE AND FORGET ABOUT GOING TO HEAVEN
Bharat always developed and rich civilization. Sanatan dharma is oldest than all religion. It has
rich knowledge. Not necessary for take another religion.
It's more than love. It's a supremacist attitude towards the nonChristians.
Jesus is the the true light.His love can be experienced by inviting him in our heart. Here people are commenting against Christian faith. Why people send their childrens to Christian School ? Why you using the Technology invented by Christians. When you use Bus,Car, Train, Aeroplane, Computer, Electricity that time your not saying that it is from Christians !
Christan had stolen all study by Rome and distory it. All modern math science Astrology stolen by India, Nobel say earth is flat, even Indian calender but fail from date
Well we are paying for it .
It is not sponsored by church.
@@sonurawat7338 hahah
Koenraad Elst looks like Sage, and has characteristics like a Sage.
Looks can be deceiving.
A blind cannot lead the blind.
He knows about the TRUTH.
He does not KNOW the TRUTH.
Politicians look for POWER.
God is not Linked to specific culture, so also not to specific religion.
Religions are Just expression of ETHICS & cultures.
Essence of all religions is show big HEART, god bless those who do GOOD.
you are saying missionaries come to us for converting because they love us, what rubbish...
Ya their love means love for spices,minerals, clothing and mainly land of india. This man is repeatedly using word colonisation. Sick. Is colonisation a right thing to do? And he is going to heaven. Disgusting.
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Dude did I send you this
Why did hinduism move from monotheism to polytheism? In the first Rigveda there was only iswara(harinya gharba and prajapati) later indians ignored that concept and worshipped Brahman (cosmic egg) Brahma vishnu and maheshwara were added later on in the vedas
Surya Savarnika Manavu Ashramam is a registered Hindu Religious society vide in No. 8713/1999.It's aims and objects are diffusion of useful knowledge in the fields of Legal,Medical,Scientific,Political and philosophical for the promotion of reformative prosperous views among Hindu sects and also establish Orphanage homes,Educational Institutions.It is located at Garlavoddu @Garloddu village,Enkuru Mandal,Khammam District,Telangana State,India.
ssmasramam.blogspot.com/2012/08/who-is-prajapati-view-on-rig-veda-god.html?m=1
Read the above article carefully... also about caste system wasnt there is the old vedic times
I WILL ALWAYS SAY // JAI SHRI RAM //
I don't agree that converting arises from "best of intentions". It is all about money, power and control. The reason why the Church is spending so much effort of conversion in India is that Hinduism presents the greatest long-term threat to Christianity (and Islam) and their agents with vested interests. As more people get educated and start inquiring and thinking about other religions, they will see the fallacies of Christianity (and Islam). In the West, the first step will be to become atheists. But this will not last long, as the they will eventually try to find answers to the mysteries of life and will turn to spirituality and seek answers from other religions. In Hinduism, they will be astonished at how profound the Upanishads and other texts are, and how the ancient rishis have applied logical construction to arrive at their conclusions, in a manner that would even make Plato blush. In Hinduism, they will find a religion that does not contradict science and in fact promotes it. They will begin to like an approach to life that combines humanity, regard for other creatures and environment, spirituality, physical and mental well-being and free thinking spirit in a completely a completely wholesome unit.
True that. Astonished to search the total number of christian conversion all over the world. It is not just an Indian problem. Whole of southern africa and south east asia is christian.
And the astronomical dating of every ammendment made in the Vedas. We hindus are so ignorant about our past. They did excursions at all the Mahabharata sites and found a civilization streching from indus valley to ganges and to the northern gujarat. And the present cities which are mentioned in Vedas are today the living example of 6000 years old civilization. We r really dumb. No civilization as old as ours exists today not even close, with all the textual, geographical and astronomical history.
One president of Africa said ,when Christian's came we had land they had Bible in their hands , After that we had Bible and they had our land in their hands.
All those who are converted by cruelty become cruel people because they are convinced that God is cruel and His religion wants us to practise cruelty only.
What the hell are you Indians smoking? In the last two days I somehow stumbled across this kind of content, and you guys are all over the place with conspiracy theories and ignorance and utter lies.
There is no conspiracy by the American government to convert you.
There were Christians in India since 56 AD. You may not have known, but they were. It is documented fact.
No one is forcing Dalits to convert. They are just tired of being treated like refuse for no reason.
You may read the book 'Myth of St.Thomas and Mylapore Shiva Temple' which proves that no Chriistians in India before 3rd or 4th century. Regarding forced corversion it is evident all over. Moreover, they continue to be dalits even after conversion among Christians. All these are open facts. I think denying them only stretches the debate and wastes our time..
@@bryanbridges2987 u are so dumb bro. Please search the total number of people converted to Christianity worldwide. This is not just an indian problem. U see the whole of south east asia has converted to Christianity in the past. U see how japan was converted. Africa is a living example. Only Christians are behind muslims in conversions all over the world. It is present and well funded. How naive u r to think otherwise. With such reports of churches being so corrupt. Please check the amount Vatican sends worldwide to propogate religion. What the fuck is propogate religion. Religion is personal. That too forced conversions with lure of money. The south of india has seen such large extent of it. Please visit the outskirts of one of the oldest city of india, Vishakhapatnam and u wud amazed to see the number of churches that popped up in no time.
@@AbhyudayaTomer hahaha how jealous you are
Thank you sir for your “analytically” analyzed “falsehoods of Christianity”
It's TRUE that the common Christian believes he/ she is doing it for the good of others. They believe it is their duty to bring others into Christianity and that somehow if they do it, Jesus would be very happy with them and their place in heaven would be secured.
The key question is : " Who is responsible for brainwashing them this?" What is the motive of that key committee who has this created this belief system in the common catholic masses and sent them out like disguised armies to spread their tentacles.
Surely their motive is not so noble. This is a thought out strategy .... to get soft ( as against military ) power over the people!
Formal, structured and congregation-demanding religions of such kind are aimed at gaining crowd acquiescence. Compare this to hinduism that relies largely on your own inner awakening ascended privately / militarily in meditation. Between the 2 scenarios which do you think would lead to better political mileage for a leader?
Sorry to tell that they are paid, all of them, definitely in India. They don't feel it to be their duty. They sell pamplets, bring in new people and in return gets their daily bread.
I think it's all about power and controlling the world man.... More people means more power.. christianity and islam is about competition to get more power..
13.44 - as per the need of the times and change in the generation, we people of dharmam change the changes, We do not need this religion of conversion.
Loved this video. I had completed my schooling in convent school but no faculty try to convert me. But my rice bag converts neighbours tried a lot to convince me to leave Hinduism and become Christian. Which I found absurd. Why would Jesus need you mear mortal to follow him or he will make you suffer in hell. Jesus is not mean week devil but a wise divine soul.
Really this happened? What is my rice bag?
Ur neighbors tried doing it?
@@AbhyudayaTomer yes twice by my immediate neighbors and once by an old family friend.
English dictionary has the maximum words, but it does not have an opposite of SIN. How sinful.
No it does not have maximum dictionary.
Virtue is the opposite of sin
Thank you for the clarification. 🙏
Christians quote about casteism in India. But they do not realize that introducing Christianity causes divisions in the society this time in the name of religion.
Caste is an imposed concept on India. Our concept is that of varna and ashrama.
I have immense respect for Dr. but we cannot ignore the nefarious reasons why Church is doing the conversions via various charities in India & other countries. I don't think anyone questions a Christian believer or has any problem with them, it is the institution we need to be vary of and be skeptic about.
Our shree raam and. Shree Krishna walked d land as a man
Christianity was introduced by St Thomas in India. He converted only Brahmins during his time are called Roman Catholics RC. So the RC has got prejudicism towards Latin Christian who where fishermen converted by the Portuguese. But the Interesting fact is that they are also belongs to Brahmin community, they got underrated due to consuming fish in the early times. Cast system can survive even in christianity. Cheers.
Wrong, H2O, sorry! St. Thomas founded Churches such as Mar Thoma. The Portuguese Catholics arrived in the 15th century and were quite horrified to find this ancient Christianity, called them heretics, brought the Inquistion to wipe out not only Hinduism but Thomas Christianity too.
There is no evidence for this, it is another narrative created by vested interests. If you repeat a lie a thousand times, it doesn't necessarily become the truth, to some it does unfortunately.
@@mohan02 read this: www.britannica.com/topic/Thomas-Christians
@@mohan02 What sort of evidence are you really seeking, my friend.
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Meaning of 'evidence' is self-evident and requires no further clarification.
At 0.54 you said it’s a mistake to identify (Christian) mission with the colonial enterprise. My comment is : the christian proselytizing mission and western imperialism has always go hand-in-hand. Christianity has always been a tool for imperialism (if you could unified people into the same faith then it would be easy control and rule over them).
Thays not right
Dude did I send you this
Why did hinduism move from monotheism to polytheism? In the first Rigveda there was only iswara(harinya gharba and prajapati) later indians ignored that concept and worshipped Brahman (cosmic egg) Brahma vishnu and maheshwara were added later on in the vedas
Surya Savarnika Manavu Ashramam is a registered Hindu Religious society vide in No. 8713/1999.It's aims and objects are diffusion of useful knowledge in the fields of Legal,Medical,Scientific,Political and philosophical for the promotion of reformative prosperous views among Hindu sects and also establish Orphanage homes,Educational Institutions.It is located at Garlavoddu @Garloddu village,Enkuru Mandal,Khammam District,Telangana State,India.
ssmasramam.blogspot.com/2012/08/who-is-prajapati-view-on-rig-veda-god.html?m=1
Read the above article carefully... also about caste system wasnt there is the old vedic times
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@@njrl0909 Stop spewing bullshit. You know my books better than me?
@@amarkantkumar4233 bro this G. NRR guy is a bot or some paid shit. He keeps changing topics and says such sexual and depressing things about hinduism in the entire comment section. But he keeps changing topic and doesn't reply to the answers.
Who the hell are they to save us? From what?
Thankyou sir for speaking truth
Sir, I am still okay to go to hell, is there any issue? I love Hinduism, I love Christianity. If you follow anything still you are a Hindu. Hindu mean adaptation. We have no rules to follow, just follow whatever is right in your mind follow that.
Who follow cast in india
All so lower cast are in big position
Just you Christian spreading it.
Super Indic studies and Elst🙏🙏🙏
Sir you are true but what is the proof of Sati system.
We Sanatanis have records from ages in Har ki pauri haridwar
Where cremated ashes were broughted
But I haven't seen any of my grandfather and grandmother ash brought there on same date and month.
Even any of my relative whose Purohit we able to talk have same records.
Therefore the sati is not in our family
Or it is just a made-up thing.
Plz put your mic more closer, as your voice in recording is very low. It will improve the voice quality in your recordings. Thank u
Can you give subtitles.
Hindu gods are victorious... they are not pathetically burnt are hanged ....a victorious can be the saviour only..one who can't save himself how can he save you..the female s are honoured as Shakti only in Hinduism..the theory of karma moksha ..the self enlightenment is the ultimate goal of human birth..feel proud to be a Hindu
I think u all know about kanniyakumari dist ,tamilnadu..it was once hindu majority area but now it became a christian majority the reason is DMK party who got a lot money from missionaries ,gave permission to churches to get these minorities VOTE BANK
Religion is a once Thought-a life style and when you impose a religion on millions, you are imposing a thought on millions or billions! Its like if some one likes to walk upside down, you impose that walking style on them!
Hindus want self to go to heaven, Christian want fellow men to go to heaven but it's only Islam that not only self but also take with them others really heaven. BOOM!!! they take us all...
People who say that others should not accept the faith of their choice are imposing their will on others.
Whether we like or not millions of people will leave their born religion and decide not to practice or join other faiths. It happened everywhere and will happen in India too. No power on this earth can stop people do what they like regarding their matter of religion. It's their private affair
Therefore please stop missionaries and conversion factories. Stop torturing poors with false hopes.
Most Christian are not real Christian because they do not follow the teaching of Jesus. 1) Jesus Prey to God. 2) Jesus Fast. 3) Jesus was Sercumsized 4) Jesus did not say he was god (If he was god who did he prey to?) 5) Christian celebrate Christmas but Jesus was not born in December 25. He was born in Summer, etc etc
@Proud Kafir Meraj learned many things new.
all abrahamic religions are fanatics and piles of valueless books
@@myke_770 please shut up ok
In Kerala dalit are not allowed in Christuan church. Dalit Christian have seoerate dalit church
Bro about which church you are talking about its false ok
Church baptised m.k. Gandhi post his death so that Gandhi goes to heaven..😁
Dr Koenraad knows what the audience wants to hear. He however succeeds to show that hindus fail to abolish sati though they had tried from rig Veda times.
Answer is simple, the pastors and Bishops are having a field day living off the donations given by the common folks. Besides they have Nuns available at their beck and call. Perks are the information they collect and use during confession sessions. People of India beware and don’t fall into their Hell and Heaven concepts.
Nuns are not at the beck and call. The nuns and priests are not allowed to go about freely, wherever they want to go. They have curfew. It is only one case in India, and what is baffling is how this incident happened when there is so much strict rules for nuns and priests.
What is said in confession is highly confidential, however some stupid priests opened thier stupid mouths and caused the controversy. The priests has to make a promise that he will not tell the confession truths to others.
@@banubanu1136 - harassment/ rape is found to be universal, more in Catholic Churches. Just read news an check out how many times the Pope had to apologize to the victims.
@@banubanu1136 - why don’t the people confess directly to God/ son of God/ Mother Mary? . I think you are not updated about the happenings in Kerala Churches
@@santosh5684 i am talking about Kerala incident only. In Kerala, a few priests have broken the promise of confidentiality. Confession is there only in Catholic Church, and the priest has to promise that he will maintain confidentiality. Other Churches, confess directly , not to any person.
Well said TintuPintu.I support yr comment and second it.This man with one leg in his grave how could he talk like this.Such people have no respect for any religion The best way to please God is to follow humanity love each other and contribute yr best in maintaining peace among all mankind.
Is peace what church is bringing to the lands.
Or destruction?
Man-made believe system.
If they want good of us then why max Muller distorted sculptures and history of India.. you think it's for good ..no sir ..it's hatred..and no other religions can stand Infront of sanatan philosophy..
One language English, One religion Christains will be in World, which will make by American and its union.Nepal is also highly Suffering...
Yes brother we realise that..it all started post major earthquake there..please be vigilante dear Hindus of Nepal 🙏🕉
Conversion is not for others good it is the result of insecurity that there are many people not under the influence of what we believe as true... And thus its an effort to make themselves feel happy.
I agree
Christians don't try to convert. They preach the Gospel. If you preceive this as "try to convert" that's on you
What is so noble in telling people that the gods they worship are false...not only false but Satan or Satanic? What is so noble in thinking that only one's religion is the truth and others are direly mistaken? What is so noble in being blind and deaf to truth in one's bigotedness?
So go to d Muslim countries u r all related first cousins I believe we Hindus don’t believe in conversion it’s d two ibrahamic religions. Do conversion so I want to go to hell per your equation as I love my hindu faith stop spinning a gentle way of conversion sir people r born with a free will and we r seekers we don’t believe. Remember d bible has seven or eight editions so go into deep meditation sir with no disrespect stop spinning g we don’t believe we sinners
Who says Christian coverts or Muslim converts do not follow caste . Just check
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caste_system_among_Indian_Christians
Interesting angle. I studied in a Christian school and also have known many for over 25 years. Not once did either the missionaries in the school or people I know every try to suggest conversion. Rather there was always mutual respect and mutual celebration of festivals like Diwali and Christmas. I have also been reading up on different histories out of academic interest, and interestingly the concept of Karma is also there in Christianity. The iconography of the halo around the head of religious figures comes from Mithraism which was an ancient Indo-Persian religion. The mainstream churches no longer seek to convert. There is also a lot of interfaith discussions that happen. A Hindu can marry a Christian and continue to remain a Hindu. Given the current global demographic trends, it is essential for Hindus and Christians to understand each other and work together. This is probably also the thinking in the US with President Trump reaching out to PM Modi with so much affection. The people who try to convert are from new fangled sects and go by different names. Ironically these sects are shunned by the mainstream Churches and even by missionary schools. The general Catholic or Christian population respect and are also a lot more comfortable with Hindus rather than any other religion. This has been my experience and I believe we should live and let live in harmony.
Please Go to kanyakumari dist and Ramanathapuram dists of Tamilnadu...You will surely understand Harmony...Hahaha...Religion of Love and Religion of Peace are doing great job there
Visit northeast India you will understand your loving Christians,
@@Soni25242 Its because this is what we Hindu are, every other religion in insecure about themselves & want everyone else to join them, but we have the freedom to choose our own path in our lives.
@@Soni25242 Really!! What nonsense are you talking? They will never be the majority. You are barking up the wrong tree. You need to be more concerned about ISIS. Focus on what is most important. You are losing sight of what is really the problem.
@@surgeonscut7203 I have been there and you are bull shitting.
Remarkable presentation.
This old man is a true zombie. Respect other's religion first. If u cant, stay at ur homeland.
truth is always hard to digest, try to open your eye a little bit whoever you are. reality of christian missionary's history are same as Islamic invaders in India , the path is little diffarant but in the end they are all same.
Sudha it's more like you are true idiot .
Sickulars are on the way. Sanatan dharma always prevails, rest in vain.
Christianity is one way of attaining salvation or living life.
Hinduism has purposely gone polytheistic from monotheistic. This could be to maintain a significant identity of the civilisation which formed the centre of the world. They had good roads climate mountains rivers soil etc. People migrated from all over to this side of river Sindhu. Those migrated from eastern europeans parts and western Asia perhaps couldnt say S of Sindhu so they called it Indu. Gradually it became Hindu.
Meanwhile some of the sages meditated in the mountains for years apparently and brought down 4 vedas..
The first rig veda didnt have caste system and didnt have the 3 trinity Gods Brahma Vishnu maheshwara. It only had the self existent God harinyagarbha from whom came the first born prajapati through whom all things came.
Thus perhaps began the extra multiple Gods stories temples etc..
The abrahamic religions only believe in the creator God..and his Angel's.
Even God couldnt trust his angels as one of them deceived God himself.
So he cast away one third of his angels down..
To earth.
Christian's feel that these angels are now part of satan's team spreading wrong things, instigating wrong things in peoples mind etc..
They also feel some must have mated with humans and this some idols we see are weird. Multiple hands etc. But that's a myth. Dont take it seriously.
171 dislikers are ppl who convert ppl 😂😂
Ricebags.
The true love means with out converting their anybody's identy.
There is vested interests in spreading your religion.
Jai Shree Ram 💪🏽🚩🚩🚩
We are sanatan, we are eternal.
Almighty bless you.
The Truth don't need conversions
Great talk!
Rig Veda may say there should be no castes but in the real world that shows no way of going away.
WHY???WHY???WHY???
*ANSWER IS : JESUS CHRIST COMMANDED IT*
Matthews 28:18-20
18. Then Jesus came up and said to them, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. 19. Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit, 20. teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And remember, I am with you always, to the end of the age.
India will always remain a Hindu nation