A speaker with 6 tweeters!? XTZ M8 speaker, good for music and movies
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- Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
- #hifi #audiophile #stereo #speakers
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Gear mentioned or used in evaluating the speakers
Matrix X-Sabre 3
Pathos Kratos integrated amp
Galion TS120 tube integrated amp
Mcintosh MAC6700 integrated amp
Gustard R26 R2R DAC
Galion upcoming Class TS-A20 amp
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Question for you: Are you curious about this speaker? Would you like to listen to a multi-array speaker?
One thing I forgot to mention, the wall of sound characteristic is great for creating atmosphere, so that is why I say it is good for movies.
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*Correction: it is not THX certified.
They are THX ultra certified. My speakers came with a sticker and a THX cert paper. XTZ probably decided to not pay the certification fee anymore.
I love my XTZ M8 speakers!
I have 3 × xtz cinema m8 monitor speakers. Best speakers i have ever owned then.😃😎🎵🔈👍
I have also 3 × xtz a2-300 amps that is bi amping my 3 × cinema m8 speakers. All are the sealed models then
Do you want to test the XTZ 99.36 too? They are great.
I dont dont think that the M8 are lacking clarity in the mids but they are extremely direct. In movies you hear the charakter of the different voices perfectly with the m8. Movie Sound is 70% voice and 30% effect so mids are important. M8 has great mids but they are rather too clear than too less clear
Yes, I agree. I had a Arendal 1723 center before which is known for the clarity. I feel that voices are more clear with my M8 center and I think it is due to the 3-way design compared to the 2-way design on the Arendals.
Xtz cinema line is one of the best price/performance speakers I've had :)
Give me more trebal, mids, and bass later i can adjust the way i like the sound of my music,, ,,,,,Yes, that's correct. Multiple drivers are the best. If drivers are very, very high quality, they reduce distortion due to multiple crossover points, I'm into diy speakers. I always use multiple drivers in my projects . Thomas, thanks for the video 👍👍🥁 🥁 🎸🎸🎺
Yes. They are really great speakers then😊🎶🔊🎞
At $3500 the XTZ M8 cost more than the Tekton Double Impacts... Would be interesting to A / B them.
When I watch Thomas’s videos, I always pay attention to what is on his equipment rack. Thomas likes to sneak in a product or two.
Thanks Thomas. What are your current reference music speakers?
He really loves the Paradigm Persona 9H. They are BEASTS
Depends on the week :) But main speaker is still Silverline Sonata Mk1
@@ThomasAndStereo do you have any reviews related to this brand? Looks like they are currently on the mark IV for the speaker you mention.
GM☕️
Toronto Audiofest 2023 is coming up …are you doing a room again ..and is there anything special
you’re showing 🥹
These speakers look damn interesting 🤔..paired with their amplifier and source chain 😵💫
Great video ☕️🍕🔥👍
They asked me to demo my upcoming class A amp with this XTZ speaker. I might.
@@ThomasAndStereo GM☕️
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I dont understand why they make a right ore left center so according to which center you have the radiation characteristics are different
I Went from the XTZ 99.36 (ribbon tweeters) to the Cinema M8 towers and center channel. I do not miss any clarity from my old speakers, and can safely say it's one of the best audio purchases I've made... they pack a punch and sound awesome anywhere you sit in my couch 👌
Yes, the M8 speakers are true Hifi gems. My ears give up way before these hit their limit and they do it with total control!
Are these speakers a mirror image pair (different left and right speakers)?
Well there is a left and right side with these speakers.
The XTZ M8 are the best kept secret in the world of high performance home theater. I’ve owned and experienced the best home theater speakers out there from JTR, JBL, Ascendo, Grimani, RBH, and I’d put these up against any of them. Very good performance for music as well.
So, Thomas you'd put these in the, When I listen to Zeppelin...So do my Neighbors, Class. 😂
..and their neighbors too.
I don't know if it's my arachnophobia but all these tweeters make me feel like I'm being watched by these creatures 😱
Tekton is the speaker brand that got me off the speaker searching merry go round almost 5 yrs ago. I still have no desire to upgrade, but I’ve gotta admit, I’m curious about those M8’s. Thanks, Thomas.
Hi again Nick! That's very interesting as I've never heard any Tekton speakers in real life. I think I'm going to have to try and remedy that, since you rate them so highly!
Jim🏴🙂
always good work - Thank you!!
Thank you too!
$3500 seems like a good deal. A lot of speaker for the money.😊
I have the xtz cinema m8, s5 and s2 speakers then.
Congrats!
Excellent review.
Glad you liked it!
thomas any chance reviewing super mon mini and other speakers from monacoustics?
I don't think so, they did not reach out to me.
@@ThomasAndStereo send them an email, it could be a perfect match with the gallion.
I see a new Galion amp in the background.
Were those the KLH Model 7's I spotted, or the Model 5's with a weird camera angle?
Those are model 5.
@@ThomasAndStereo Ah, ok. I guess it was just camera related, because they looked taller than what I'm used to (I have the Model 5's myself).
Diatone VS-100f back in the day had 9 speakers in each cabneit ' which was crazy at the time ' wonder how the impendence swings are with multiple drivers '
Very interesting Thomas thanks for the video ' the Diatone DS 205 Where the bad boys in their day ' these new age speakers are levels above vintage ' but i can't say the same about class AB Amps ' 😃
Love the looks of the XYZed lol
Does any One remember MK Speakers ?
Always wanted to sample the amps. I like the idea of Class D size / small // no heat. Might need a great tube preamp tho ..ya?
Can't wait to come back to Montreal for a show. Toronto is up first tho. October =)
Excellent review. That anti-reflective coating is a very cool feature. Those glossy speakers just ain't for me. Sounds like you need to audition a current model of Tekton speaker!
Yes I do!
Your comparison to Tekton is spot on. I have Tekton Electron SE's with the 7 tweeter array. They deliver the BIG sound I was looking for, that can handle Janis Joplin's vocals as well as Orchestral music.
'Center' tweeter - given two tweeter columns either both tweeters will be on the Inside or both on the Outside. This difference will make a difference in center imaging and sound staging. Did you by chance listen to the speakers swapped from left to right? Did the manufacturer indicate a preferred orientation? Are the speakers even marked as a 'Left' and a 'Right' ?
My thoughts entirely
It is written on the speaker which one is left and which one is right.
@@ThomasAndStereo Ahhh OK, wonderful Thanks!
These speakers look SO cool. Excellent review. Ghost Rider for the Win! :)
Agreed!
please help me decide on these two standmounts
Totem element fire V2 or Dali Epicon 2 ???
Come on Thomas, make a review of the electra 1008 be ii , that I see you owning on a lot of your videos .. :)
Those are dinosaurs!
@@ThomasAndStereo dinosaurs that I own .. and perhaps . dinosaur monster killers .. jajajajaj
@@ThomasAndStereo Actually that would be a fun idea, if you could make comparison of similar new model from focal.. To see have there really been any progress in 10+ years..
@@jarkkokinnunen9963 No company rests on its laurels, unless they're lazy and Focal ain't one of them
🤗 THOMAS, I ALREADY HAVE A BIG SMILE ON MY FACE,JUST THINKING ABOUT THEM 😁💚💚💚
Just so you’re aware Thomas. A D’Appolito array is a very specific type of a MTM speaker. And to be honest from what I understand about it. I find it hard to believe this fits all those subsets. But that’s not the point.
Point is. It’s a design that uses an odd order crossover along with very specific driver spacing/arrangement to control the polar pattern. Which is how this speaker is designed also (to control polar pattern I mean).
So I think that’s why they called it one, despite it maybe not technically being one. But I’m not Henry Kloss, Andrew Jones, or Joseph D’Appolito either for that matter. ✌️
Thanks for sharing your feedback, I am newbie at this too. I remember seeing it mention as that so I just use that without researching further. I can be so wrong.
@@ThomasAndStereo I’m not necessarily saying you are. I’m just saying that’s what I read. I did a lot of research into speaker designs, and such when I was into car stereo. As that’s basically like building everything from scratch. And involves a lot more things, like DSP for instance, then just plugging in an amp and speakers.
But I still can’t claim to be very well informed on the subject. I would leave that right vs wrong argument for a real speaker designer. I just like to spread the knowledge around. I mean hey, if everyone can spread lies around nowadays. Why can’t I spread around some facts right?
Either way. Love the video as always Thomas. Hope all is well in your world my friend. ✌️
The D’Appolito arrangement doesn't specify a particular crossover type nor order - it's all about pattern control - don't expect anything technical on this channel - this is NOT Erin's Audio Corner ;-)
mtm is the general term we must use unless it is a specific D’Appolito array
@@BogdanWeiss Controlled polar response, via driver arrangement and third-order crossover.
have U ever made a review of the Jadis tube Amplifier from France ? some say it's a must have. Your opinion could be interesting. Thankkkkkks
Not yet
I wonder which of the tweeters is acting as the tweeter? The remaining 5 tweeters are then not symmetrical - the advantage of the Tekton design, is the ring of tweeters are covering the midrange, and they are symmetrical, so they act as a coaxial speaker. This XTZ is going to have some lobing and/or comb filtering, I would think.
Hey it's Neil @ Blanchard (Awning Co.) again,
I was thinking the same thing about the tweeter array. So, who's not going to be a lazy-bones & look up the patent? Probably could have done it as fast as I did this.
Ciao 🔈🔉🔊
Well there is a left and right side with these speakers.
@@ThomasAndStereo Right - my best guess is the middle tweeter on the inside column is the tweeter. This comes closest to symmetrical, for the midrange drivers?
Thomas, at 6:10 I saw a black box with the Galion logo on it. Is this a new Galion amp?
Yes, class A 20w solid state. Current feedback design.
as a bass head i appreciate . can't wait to hear them out😁
I heard these at Thomas's place when I bought his klh 5's... He knew I liked bass and gave me a listen... these were among the best bass I've ever heard, felt and experienced... Kick to the chest and teeth at the same time... Just nuts. Heavy beasts and I can't justify getting them myself but I don't see why one would need a sub with these. If I could justify such a purchase they would be on my short list...
@@chrischillbilly he has successfully made them out of stock with this video 😅😁😂
@@eyeshezzy is that what he does? When I saw his ad for his klh 5's for sale I didn't realize it was him... He lives 15 minutes from me... We geeked out for a good hour... His audio room is a very dangerous place to be for my wallet!!
@@chrischillbilly 😂😂😂 it seems soo. He brings attention to obscure equipment that don't get much attention from others.. which is a good thing. The producers are happy, we the consumers are happy..win win
@@eyeshezzy I'd have to agree... There was tube amp that he features in one of his videos that I believe he said he was "bringing to market" to a certain degree and although not cheap, it was an incredible amp and I'd say even a decent value. He knows his stuff... If he comes across something worth sharing, he may even do more if his confidence level is high like with that tube amp...
Looks like McIntosh speaker
Oh you right.
I dont think I'll ever forget the visceral experience I had when you played these for me after auditioning the KLH 5's I bought from you... I'm quite glad the 5's should be good to me for many years and that I'm not trying to conjure up a way to acquire a pair of these beasts... Thanks again for playing them for me... Hoooo baby!! Chris
Haha, yes I remember you jaw dropping to the floor :)
Tropophobia me say no 🥲
Zed or Zee???
They didn't say it doesn't use the same technology. They said it doesn't infringe on the patent because they released the product before the patent was approved.
Well I did not show the whole email.
Not a real comparison to Tekton if you look at price. What the M8 has to offer at $3500 you’re at the performance level of Tekton’s $2000-$2500 range speakers. If I was going to spend that kind of money I would save up a bit more and buy Tekton’s Nebo or Encore Monitor (not really a monitor) with the dual array. Both of those models do music and movies at equal perfection.
Well, if you do well with music, I don't think you can do the 'atmosphere' soundstage that dedicated hometheater speakers can do. I should have elaborated on that because my friend who is both into hometheater and stereo noticed the same as me. The first second he listened to the XTZ is he say it sounds like a hometheater speaker.
@@ThomasAndStereo And how do you like the M8 for music? Do you think their Stereo performance is like 3500? They are very neutral and have great kickbass with electronic music. I love them
@@ThomasAndStereoa good speaker does everything well. I’m also a two channel and home theater enthusiast. My designated theater is a 7.3.6 system with all matching Tekton Encore Monitors, which are out of this world home theater speakers. But I also tried them in my two channel system for a couple months while I was finishing the theater room, and they are also fantastic speakers for music. A great speaker is a great speaker. And a great speaker recreates the sound of objects the way they would sound in real life, regardless if it’s a guitar or a car crash. 😁👍
@@brianmcnamara1431that little Encore Monitor is hardly a match for the M8 tower. lol
Dual 6.5” woofers, 40hz extension, 120 watt power handling, and 42 lbs? The Nebo is a closer match. Probably you should listen to the M8 before making any assumptions.
That’s a Tekton clone, they arranged the Twitter in a square instead of circular to get away from the patent, but I bet the Tweeter functions identical to Tekton. Just guessing of course.
i think tekton is a zte clone, just guessing of course, i also do a lot of betting.
@@sudd3660 Tekton came out with the patent years ago. What makes you say, Tekton copied XTZ?
I think they were building that kind of speaker before Tekton.
In that case, it’s fair competition . Though they probably need more color and/or veneer options.
Tekton is NOT the first company to use a tweeter array. Several speakers used it 30 years prior to Tekton
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My wife asked me to get a specific color for my pair of Tekton Moab, and I obliged. Spoke with Eric a couple of times prior to purchase and he surprisingly convinced me to go with the Moabs over the Ulfs. Was not expecting that at all. I have no urge to move away from these speakers. Anyway, just posting because of your WAF comment (lol, I can see that tho). Also, she likes them with the grills off, and she HATES spiders, go figure. She's in love with the sound. Tektons sound just fine in an untreated room, close to room boundaries aren't a party foul either. Treated room treats you to sublime sound. Just sayin'.
If you can say the speakers excel at some one thing over another, then in my opinion, it's not that great of a speaker. But thanks for the click bait!
Congrats on getting the Tekton, a lot of people seem to love them.
@@ThomasAndStereo I've had them for about a couple of years now, and they caused a bunch of upgrades and improvements during that time. Solid performers, revealing and dynamic without being fatiguing. Told the truth about some of the components feeding them and out they went. :)
What's your daily these days? When you're not reviewing stuff, what setup do you turn to?
Excellent info my friend 👍