I learned so much from Z from these videos and the handful of private lessons I had. One thing I'd like to see her touch on: maintaining your best voice when you're sick, have allergies, sore throat, covid, etc. As the mom of a 3 year old, there's always some kind of minor illness going on, and it really wreaks havoc with my voice...
Putting this here. My name is Kaya, and I am 16 years old. I am a very very genetically lucky tgirl, as i have mostly naturally feminine features. based purely off of looks, id say that I pass pretty confidently. That being said, my voice is so obviously a mans, and its time for me to finally change that! I am leaving this comment here to mark that Ive begun. I also have a video of my current voice that ive just taken. Knowing myself, I should be able to keep up with doing exercises day to day and such once i fully get into it here. If I remember (unlikely) I will leave a comment here again with progress updates! Ill probably reply to this comment if I do
@@HYDROFLASKHYDROFLASK-m7x I suppose you could say alright but I realized that I could kinda already do the voice I wanted and I just had to get used to doing it all the time
This really is an exceptional roadmap not just for voice augmentation but for learning in general - Zhea really has uncovered far more about education and discovery than we often think about, but it's one of her strongest fields.
My current issue is that I have a bad habit of falling into my "cartoony" voice to mask out the masculine/androgynous sounds that may come out. I use this voice a lot to be silly around internet friends when playing games or just hanging out. This cartoony voice is pretty squeezed off, but not painful. It's useful for my voice acting side gig, although I only really do funny, light-hearted work at the moment. It'd be nice to also provide clients who request a realistic sounding female voice. But the ultimate goal is to have my feminine voice everywhere! So, my next short-term goal is to face my fears with doing more "serious" feminine voices rather than just the silly cartoony ones around friends. Fear is what's holding me back from progress. I don't need to be perfect. It's okay to be messy and stumble while I figure this out. I need a new habit of using my feminine voice while talking with friends - and strangers! I also have a bad habit of shifting my voice in public when speaking with people. That's definitely when it's the most masculine! So, I need to face my fears and be a bit more feminine there as well! This is what I'll work on for now! Thanks, Z!
I somehow got recommended this after (presumably) watching another video about goal setting. This video's topic doesn't apply to me (as a Cis person) but the first few minutes may prove surprisingly useful due to how applicable the advice is to setting other goals!
I recently started formulating a step by step method to produce the tone I want. It helps me be able to consistently produce the tone I want. Methodical planning is definitely crucial for reaching a complex goal like voice training. If I just practice without a plan, I might be able to produce the desired tone one time but will be totally lost how I got there the next day.
Please don't call me out like this 😅 You're totally right though. I went in blind (deaf?) for the first few months, and although I (eventually) got a voice I was more comfortable with, I couldn't tell you what exactly changed to get me there.
As an economist by training, I love this attitude. To nerd out for a moment, life and society didn't develop overnight. Sure, sometimes there's game changing breakthroughs. Mostly though, it's those little things. Being 5% faster to complete a task. Growing 1% more food from the same land. Using 10% less material for the product. On their own? Not much changes. Added together and compounded over and over they become world changing. Especially in modern life, I think we're so bombarded with things that already appear finished or perfected, ignoring the years, decades, or even centuries it took to slowly improve things. Yes, marginal benefits seem small and you don't notice them day by day or week by week. They will add up though if you stay at it!
This is such a good video because it's not only an EXCELENT transfem voice lesson (as always) but it ALSO explain a lot easier way to achieve any goal and give meaning to discipline. Thank u so very freacking much for the amazing work.
My favorite UA-cam notification >> The only one you know WILL watch, whatever it is ( and probably just say yes I'm motivated and then do nothing the next day but that's okay you're doing you best 💚 )
This is actually so helpful! I'd kind of forgotten about voice training for the past 3 months (and i usually hate it because its very dysphoric) so I think I can make a good (re)start with this :D
Make sure if you bleach your hair to get a good shampoo and conditioner to maintain the blonde color ad healthy texture! It will last a lot longer if you do.
I know I can still improve, but after a year I managed to get a 100% passing voice. It's not exactly where I want it to be, but I'm very happy because I'm always gendered correctly, both on the phone and in real life. You are amazing Z, I owe all of this to you :)
I've decided my first active step is to get comfortable keeping my resonance high for prolonged periods until it's second nature and just happens without me thinking about it. I've been doing a lot of practice with R1 guided by your lessons, and I've pretty quickly gotten to a point that I can freely control it between ~450 hz and ~900 hz, but it takes constant mental effort to maintain it at anything other than my "default" of about 550 hz. Once I'm at a point that I'm noticing I no longer have to think about it, I am going to pick the next area to work on and approach it similarly. This will likely end up making it take a bit longer than it does for some, but I've been transitioning slowly enough (I figured it out in ~2009, came out in ~2012, and started hormones in ~2016) that I'm somewhat used to the process being slow and just coping with dysphoria along the way, and this will help me make sure I stay away from bad habits as much as possible. It'll also just let me friends and family slowly adapt to my voice changing without having them all freak out or something. Thank you so much for the motivation!
as much as I am supper anxious and nervous to try; this video helps me gain at least some confidence to actually start. I want to thank you for helping me :)
After 40+ years of hiding, I'm finally starting to take steps and declare what I've always been, but I have a slow, deep, and dry voice. I'm not sure if after so many years this is fixable... I hate how my voice sounds and how it reverberates in my head, but I can't produce high-pitched sounds. Moreover, I don't speak English, so it's difficult to find people who can help me with classes. Now that I've discovered this channel, I'll continue watching the videos and try to change it.
Wow, this video is great! It has me feeling inspired! Soon, I'll open my new custom planner and write in some 1-month, 3-month, and 1-year voice feminization goals and see how that might help me appreciate, envision, and accelerate my progress. I think I will encourage other voice students to watch this video as early as possible if they ever ask for me good starting points. I feel like a lot of people would benefit from the perspective it offers on the larger process (and the increments and steps within that process). Thanks for everything that you do Z, you're really an amazing teacher and a wonderful person! 😊💜🔥
Z you are one of the wisest most intelligent people I've ever came across not just when it comes to music and voice feminization, you are so well spoken and calm and that energy of yours is so contagious. Thank you for everything.
This helps so much. I had just barely started trying in a drivethru and then immediately got sick and my throat is soar and I'm scared to try with a soar throat
Well, this is very motivating, and as a apathetic person (unless the activity is fun) this really is kind of useful, since then I get a sort of feel for how long it takes and how I should somewhat go around things, I’m mostly going for a deeper pitched female voice, I’m not trans or anything, I just think it’d be fun to mess around with (and troll with)
Heads up, the 'goals' you plan along the way to a goal (the endpoint) are commonly called 'milestones' or 'objectives instead of goals, because they are by definition things you accomplish along the way to a goal.
I stopped thinking about my voice after i started blending in just fine, but i always hated how it sounded, I'm actually working towards a speaking voice i like now :) Just listening to things i dislike and identifying where the sensations are and playing with it. Thanks for the push ! Lalalalalala
Having just started voice training in the last couple of weeks, Zhea has really helped a lot, but I honestly feel lost on how to keep improving from just videos online, it’s really hard to tell if I’m doing something wrong if nobody can point it out. despite watching this video, I still have no idea how I can set goals for myself because I don’t know how to actually progress and improve besides just practicing what I already know. I really need someone to help me.
@@nasal-ingressive this was my thought but it’s actually finding one I can learn from without having to spend money I don’t have that’s the issue. I’m also 14 so I’d probably have to look for someone who can work well with kids and it’s all just too much for me to actually work with so I don’t know what to do. I’m probably just gonna try and get help from trans women I’m friendly with who actually have done voice training and have some idea of how to teach me and see how well that goes.
So, I got this video from the new Play Something feature, which is a little odd though maybe a bit understandable as I'm a guy and have no intention of even transitioning.
Hey Z, I have a question - you often mention in this video a long term goal of achieving a female voice being roughly a 5 year thing - does it necessarily have to take that long a time period? Especially as for example things you’ve suggested as 1 month or 3 month goals are things I’ve somewhat achieved myself in much shorter periods of time I’m just curious, since, to know that it would take a whole 5 years to get a voice I want would honestly be really demotivating - I’m not that impatient, it’s just that I couldn’t really stand not having an ideal voice for that long Thanks for the video btw, really useful!
The process of skill development doesn't occur linearly to time. You can likely achieve your goals much faster if you set your mind to it and stay active in the ability. We want to exceed our goals. Make your goals very possible to reach - almost easy to reach and then when you crush them that inertia will only propel you further and faster. Always challenge yourself the whole way through. I have seen people achieve their goals across the entire spectrum of quickly and slowly. This video is not a prescription to say 5 years must pass before you are allowed or capable of achieving your goals. Only one's self can know their own goal directly which means by default, this video is not being absolute about time. Instead, I'm providing a general blueprint for goal structure you can tweak in any skill or medium to suit your goals and skill level. This goal blueprint was modeled as if a person with no experience was just getting started and looking at the new task. Keep up the great work! You'll crush your goals before you know it and with haste.
I tried starting voice training like 3 times over the last three years and I just can't figure it out. I always overexert. I'd pretty much given up but maybe following this path is worth giving it another shot.
The only thing that concerns me about changing my voice is I want to do voice work with animation (I wanna make my own cartoons) and don’t wanna be stuck with one voice
I wonder if this happens to anyone, but when I try to practice I"m eventually able to produce sound that is quite close to what I want, but unfortunately I forget to breath. I know it sounds weird, but somehow I concentrate so much on the sensations of the muscles in my throat that I just stop breathing. Does anyone know how to solve this?
weirdly i have an odd starting point for voice training being autistic. because i grew up vocal stimming/delayed echolalia so i already did the step of experimenting with my voice doing weird and random sounds and voices learning lots of control. but also i rarely talk so im like really bad at it and can never bring myself to speak in a clear loud voice i always speak quiet and monotone and dont know how to really speak naturally idk if that makes sense smth like that
Somehow I became so used to switching between my normal "chest voice" and falsetto that there's often no discernable jump, pop, or gap when I slide my pitch up and down from one range to the other (and I have a strong, musically trained ear, so it's unlikely that I'm just not hearing it). It's so easy to switch into falsetto that it's actually difficult to not use it at higher pitches. How do I stop myself from falling into falsetto as I try to go higher in pitch? I assume the general advice of "just play around with your voice near that range" will likely help some. But do you have any specific advice on that problem?
I was born as a girl. I have hormonal imbalance and my voice is deep for a female. Am I required to have a surgery? This voice makes me insecure everytime I am mistaken as a man. Sometimes, I am mistaken as a transgender.
I spent 1-2 hours practicing for over 3 months and just still sound male, if not a complete hon. I don't know where I went wrong but voice training isn't working.
That's okay! I sounded really rough for over a year when I started my voice journey. The past does not predict the future self. How much time you actually spend practicing doesn't predict how quickly you progress. if you are unsure of what you should be listening for or you aren't listening at all, then you could spend even more hours per day with little success. The most important thing is constructive perception. What have you been trying to listen for? Progress is gatekept by awareness and perception during action, rather than just action.
3 months still isn’t enough to pass! i’m sure it’s better than the start. like she said, work on sounding more comfortable with your voice. don’t strain. BUT most importantly, focus on the small goals. the improvement each month. not that 5 year goal :)
@@TransVoiceLessons I just can’t get any kind of inflection in my voice, I can barely if at all control pitch, and the resonance of my voice is unchangeable. I cannot control my voice whatsoever, and it ends with dozens of conversations a day getting called “miss” at the start and then “sir” by the end. Any attempt at changing has made me sound squeakish and high-pitched rather than relaxed and natural sounding
@@skystheaimbot3789 i’m sorry and i totally relate. it’s hard. i’m just saying we have to remember ANY progress is progress. how do you expect to be properly gendered on the phone 100% of the call when you’re only 3 months in? clearly just getting gendered correctly at the start is a huge win. please give yourself more credit and don’t give up. unless that’s what you want to do, then do that
Thank you Z for another cool vodeo lesson. Btw. I like seeing you with a t shirt. I think I have not had a chance before seeing you kind of with cassual dress. And I like it a lot. You look wanderfull as always. And only after some time I received recognized what is the picture on a t shirt. 😊😊😊 very cool.
DON’T SAY THAAAAT Voice training is a skill that we develop. Obviously Z is on another level with vocals this is her career etc, but half as good is absolutely doable. It’s not fair to directly compare yourself to someone who’s devoted their entire life to this skill and is years and years into their journey. You can get a voice you think is pretty, I believe in you ❤
Hi, hope you're doing alright. I get where you're coming from because this is also a thought I have had, but there is literally no value in this sentiment. Her voice is pretty because she spent a long time developing it. I myself have a long way left to go until I can sustain a voice I can identify with, but I am getting there. I know it's frustrating. But there is no way to know how "good" your voice is going to be, and telling yourself it will never be good enough is totally utterly pointless. You wouldn't talk to a friend this way, so please stop doing it to yourself. There are so many different kinds of voices a woman can have, and even if you never end up sounding like Z, you can still end up sounding like a version of yourself you can be confident in. There isn't one way to sound like a woman and I think you're doing yourself a disservice if you're going to keep insisting that you can't do it. I don't know how long you've been trying to feminise your voice but there is always progress to be made. It could take you a while, or maybe not very long at all, to get to a point where you realise how far you've come. Those points are gonna continue coming as you move closer and closer to being happy with your voice. It can be really daunting but it's going to get easier and it's worth it to put the effort in. Please treat yourself with the patience and kindness you would grant others, you don't deserve any less than that
@@Amaling Nah lmao, all my practice hasn't worked and im still a full fucking hon. It doesn't work for a lot of people, after months and months of practice I only got clocked worse and literally had a friend give a huge negative reaction to my voice. It doesnt matter for some, it's just not happening for me and many others.
@@skystheaimbot3789 Do you think you've had the wrong approach to your practice? Months and months of practice sounds nice, but if that practice is using the wrong methods it can be a bad case of forming the wrong habits. Also, I feel like the negative reaction your friend had can be a good thing. Yeah, I know. It's not something you want to see from a friend, but it's important to fail. That's how we learn! Sometimes failure can be brutal, yes, but it's necessary. I'd say that's a good friend to have. They were honest and didn't lie about it. If they did you probably would've kept up that routine, right? What's the next step? I'm not sure. That's up to you to find out. I don't know what you've tried or haven't tried. I don't know what you sound like right now. But I know it's not impossible. Judging by your videos and username I'd say you're pretty good at FPS games. You have the dedication to improve yourself. How does it sounds for someone else to say they've practiced for months and months to get good at shooters only to say they suck and keep losing and they say it doesn't matter? But - plot twist - they've been playing on a controller and using a 60Hz monitor with a dial-up connection! Anyway, I think I've typed enough of a book here. Hopefully you get something out of it!
Saying things like "never" will put you in a very negative headspace. I use to say things like this and worry about pain lasting "forever" and things "never" getting better. But using those words just causes more pain. Then your brain starts attacking you with more "never"s because it's so used to it! I'm not sure how you feel about this, but I am absolutely impatient with things! The thought of "Oh, with enough time I could do this." But how long? I don't want to wait a long time. I want huge progress right now! I hate where I'm at! Luckily I've been working on dealing with patience and letting things change and flow with time. It's also nice to look back at the things I've accomplished over the years! And, like it's already been said before, comparing yourself to others will only bring you down. I'm guilty of this, too! We all are at least a little bit from time to time. Yeah "don't compare yourself to others" is easier said than done, but being aware of it makes it easier to learn to get rid of that habit. Social media is a big culprit of that: we see everyone's highlights, but never their struggles. People just want to post about the good things (which gets likes, views, hearts, whatever), so we generally never get to see the bad stuff or struggles. Sorry, I'm kinda rambling on now! Anyway, I just hope that I was able to contribute something worth while along with the other nice people replying!
I learned so much from Z from these videos and the handful of private lessons I had. One thing I'd like to see her touch on: maintaining your best voice when you're sick, have allergies, sore throat, covid, etc. As the mom of a 3 year old, there's always some kind of minor illness going on, and it really wreaks havoc with my voice...
How about maintaining that fem voice while screaming at your kids lol
My kid is 4 years old. I so feel you. ❤
i have my 🐱 surgery and will be off work for nearly 3 months lol so this is perfect 🗣️💖
Practice diligently! and remember that listening is practice!
Omg congrats!!!
@@TransVoiceLessons 👂🙇🏻♀️✅
Putting this here. My name is Kaya, and I am 16 years old. I am a very very genetically lucky tgirl, as i have mostly naturally feminine features. based purely off of looks, id say that I pass pretty confidently. That being said, my voice is so obviously a mans, and its time for me to finally change that! I am leaving this comment here to mark that Ive begun. I also have a video of my current voice that ive just taken. Knowing myself, I should be able to keep up with doing exercises day to day and such once i fully get into it here. If I remember (unlikely) I will leave a comment here again with progress updates! Ill probably reply to this comment if I do
How's it going 7 months out?
how's it going
@@HYDROFLASKHYDROFLASK-m7x I suppose you could say alright but I realized that I could kinda already do the voice I wanted and I just had to get used to doing it all the time
This really is an exceptional roadmap not just for voice augmentation but for learning in general - Zhea really has uncovered far more about education and discovery than we often think about, but it's one of her strongest fields.
My current issue is that I have a bad habit of falling into my "cartoony" voice to mask out the masculine/androgynous sounds that may come out. I use this voice a lot to be silly around internet friends when playing games or just hanging out. This cartoony voice is pretty squeezed off, but not painful. It's useful for my voice acting side gig, although I only really do funny, light-hearted work at the moment. It'd be nice to also provide clients who request a realistic sounding female voice. But the ultimate goal is to have my feminine voice everywhere!
So, my next short-term goal is to face my fears with doing more "serious" feminine voices rather than just the silly cartoony ones around friends. Fear is what's holding me back from progress. I don't need to be perfect. It's okay to be messy and stumble while I figure this out. I need a new habit of using my feminine voice while talking with friends - and strangers!
I also have a bad habit of shifting my voice in public when speaking with people. That's definitely when it's the most masculine! So, I need to face my fears and be a bit more feminine there as well!
This is what I'll work on for now! Thanks, Z!
My birthday is just 90 days away. I can make that a deadline for some 3-month goals! Thanks for keeping me on track, Z!
I somehow got recommended this after (presumably) watching another video about goal setting. This video's topic doesn't apply to me (as a Cis person) but the first few minutes may prove surprisingly useful due to how applicable the advice is to setting other goals!
I recently started formulating a step by step method to produce the tone I want.
It helps me be able to consistently produce the tone I want.
Methodical planning is definitely crucial for reaching a complex goal like voice training.
If I just practice without a plan, I might be able to produce the desired tone one time but will be totally lost how I got there the next day.
Please don't call me out like this 😅
You're totally right though. I went in blind (deaf?) for the first few months, and although I (eventually) got a voice I was more comfortable with, I couldn't tell you what exactly changed to get me there.
As an economist by training, I love this attitude. To nerd out for a moment, life and society didn't develop overnight. Sure, sometimes there's game changing breakthroughs. Mostly though, it's those little things. Being 5% faster to complete a task. Growing 1% more food from the same land. Using 10% less material for the product. On their own? Not much changes. Added together and compounded over and over they become world changing. Especially in modern life, I think we're so bombarded with things that already appear finished or perfected, ignoring the years, decades, or even centuries it took to slowly improve things. Yes, marginal benefits seem small and you don't notice them day by day or week by week. They will add up though if you stay at it!
Z once again spitting some facts
This is such a good video because it's not only an EXCELENT transfem voice lesson (as always) but it ALSO explain a lot easier way to achieve any goal and give meaning to discipline. Thank u so very freacking much for the amazing work.
My favorite UA-cam notification >>
The only one you know WILL watch, whatever it is ( and probably just say yes I'm motivated and then do nothing the next day but that's okay you're doing you best 💚 )
This is actually so helpful! I'd kind of forgotten about voice training for the past 3 months (and i usually hate it because its very dysphoric) so I think I can make a good (re)start with this :D
I like the mindset of letting your curiosity guide you. The want to learn and gain understanding is what makes us human in my eyes.
You've helped my voice dysphoria so much and you have also inspired me to bleach my hair
Make sure if you bleach your hair to get a good shampoo and conditioner to maintain the blonde color ad healthy texture! It will last a lot longer if you do.
Not trans but I’m absolutely enjoying this video
Thanks so much for all your content Z!! ❤ I would not be where I am today without your help ❤❤❤
Happy to help!
I know I can still improve, but after a year I managed to get a 100% passing voice. It's not exactly where I want it to be, but I'm very happy because I'm always gendered correctly, both on the phone and in real life. You are amazing Z, I owe all of this to you :)
Wow that's incredible! Did you pay for any lessons or were her videos enough for you to make such great progress?
@@CMD_HEADLINER I didn't pay for any lessions,I practiced on my own using Z's tutorials and some materials from r/transvoice
@@nvdia13 what videos from Z would u say helped u the most ??
@@amiluvvv Here's my playlist with all the best tutorials IMO: ua-cam.com/play/PLxEpTRP_Zru5mn9hW-28r6jrpmFxLP-0P.html&si=lv-uWUARJTJ9TjSO
if u don’t mind would u be able to help me thru like discord or something ? i need some adviceee
Thank you, I recently decided to work on my voice. You inspired me and not only on vocal work but other aspects of my life. ❤
I've decided my first active step is to get comfortable keeping my resonance high for prolonged periods until it's second nature and just happens without me thinking about it. I've been doing a lot of practice with R1 guided by your lessons, and I've pretty quickly gotten to a point that I can freely control it between ~450 hz and ~900 hz, but it takes constant mental effort to maintain it at anything other than my "default" of about 550 hz. Once I'm at a point that I'm noticing I no longer have to think about it, I am going to pick the next area to work on and approach it similarly.
This will likely end up making it take a bit longer than it does for some, but I've been transitioning slowly enough (I figured it out in ~2009, came out in ~2012, and started hormones in ~2016) that I'm somewhat used to the process being slow and just coping with dysphoria along the way, and this will help me make sure I stay away from bad habits as much as possible. It'll also just let me friends and family slowly adapt to my voice changing without having them all freak out or something.
Thank you so much for the motivation!
Revision of goals*
knowing my voice better*
Watching tv and taking off favourite voices and sounds*
as much as I am supper anxious and nervous to try; this video helps me gain at least some confidence to actually start. I want to thank you for helping me :)
After 40+ years of hiding, I'm finally starting to take steps and declare what I've always been, but I have a slow, deep, and dry voice. I'm not sure if after so many years this is fixable... I hate how my voice sounds and how it reverberates in my head, but I can't produce high-pitched sounds. Moreover, I don't speak English, so it's difficult to find people who can help me with classes. Now that I've discovered this channel, I'll continue watching the videos and try to change it.
My goal is to get rid of a mental block that prevents me from motivating myself to train regularly...
Hi Z, just wanted to say your videos help me so much with practice and motivation! Thank you for your channel and for being a beautiful person.
Wow, this video is great! It has me feeling inspired! Soon, I'll open my new custom planner and write in some 1-month, 3-month, and 1-year voice feminization goals and see how that might help me appreciate, envision, and accelerate my progress. I think I will encourage other voice students to watch this video as early as possible if they ever ask for me good starting points. I feel like a lot of people would benefit from the perspective it offers on the larger process (and the increments and steps within that process). Thanks for everything that you do Z, you're really an amazing teacher and a wonderful person! 😊💜🔥
Listening to your music and connecting to it, as well as TransVoiceLessons, your punk style music is awesome, Petra ❤u
You teach exactly like i need to be taught!
The Larynx shirt 😂
a TVL special :))
I am 100% here for this shirt 🔥
@@TransVoiceLessons I gotta get one of those LOL
This feels like good advice for learning any skill
I am developing a universal philosophy for skill development. Or at least that's what my writings focus on.
Oh! I love maps!
these help with singing so much, thank you ❤
A great reminder for all endeavors, honestly! It’s so hard to find a sense of progress and direction when you aren’t recognizing the short-term wins.
Z you are one of the wisest most intelligent people I've ever came across not just when it comes to music and voice feminization, you are so well spoken and calm and that energy of yours is so contagious. Thank you for everything.
Great channel, I shared with my friend who is self conscious but just beautiful as she is ❤
This helps so much. I had just barely started trying in a drivethru and then immediately got sick and my throat is soar and I'm scared to try with a soar throat
Okay, I came here just to boost you because I now have a 4 octave vocal range and much of that is thanks to your anatomy lessons.
Well, this is very motivating, and as a apathetic person (unless the activity is fun) this really is kind of useful, since then I get a sort of feel for how long it takes and how I should somewhat go around things, I’m mostly going for a deeper pitched female voice, I’m not trans or anything, I just think it’d be fun to mess around with (and troll with)
This is really helpful, tysm!!
Heads up, the 'goals' you plan along the way to a goal (the endpoint) are commonly called 'milestones' or 'objectives instead of goals, because they are by definition things you accomplish along the way to a goal.
Thank you as always for the great advice and for encouraging me to play around with my voice more!
I like the jazzy music in the summary
I stopped thinking about my voice after i started blending in just fine, but i always hated how it sounded, I'm actually working towards a speaking voice i like now :) Just listening to things i dislike and identifying where the sensations are and playing with it. Thanks for the push ! Lalalalalala
Thank you for this! 💕
Having just started voice training in the last couple of weeks, Zhea has really helped a lot, but I honestly feel lost on how to keep improving from just videos online, it’s really hard to tell if I’m doing something wrong if nobody can point it out. despite watching this video, I still have no idea how I can set goals for myself because I don’t know how to actually progress and improve besides just practicing what I already know. I really need someone to help me.
Try to find a speech language pathologist who specifcalizes in voice therapy :)
@@nasal-ingressive this was my thought but it’s actually finding one I can learn from without having to spend money I don’t have that’s the issue.
I’m also 14 so I’d probably have to look for someone who can work well with kids and it’s all just too much for me to actually work with so I don’t know what to do. I’m probably just gonna try and get help from trans women I’m friendly with who actually have done voice training and have some idea of how to teach me and see how well that goes.
Thanks maybe it will help me get higher cleanly. Love the trachea shirt ❤❤
is that what the shirt is? i thought it was like an ivan seal/andy warhol rendition of a soda cup
'do you have any goals' like in general or
So, I got this video from the new Play Something feature, which is a little odd though maybe a bit understandable as I'm a guy and have no intention of even transitioning.
Hey Z, I have a question - you often mention in this video a long term goal of achieving a female voice being roughly a 5 year thing - does it necessarily have to take that long a time period? Especially as for example things you’ve suggested as 1 month or 3 month goals are things I’ve somewhat achieved myself in much shorter periods of time
I’m just curious, since, to know that it would take a whole 5 years to get a voice I want would honestly be really demotivating - I’m not that impatient, it’s just that I couldn’t really stand not having an ideal voice for that long
Thanks for the video btw, really useful!
The process of skill development doesn't occur linearly to time. You can likely achieve your goals much faster if you set your mind to it and stay active in the ability. We want to exceed our goals. Make your goals very possible to reach - almost easy to reach and then when you crush them that inertia will only propel you further and faster. Always challenge yourself the whole way through. I have seen people achieve their goals across the entire spectrum of quickly and slowly. This video is not a prescription to say 5 years must pass before you are allowed or capable of achieving your goals. Only one's self can know their own goal directly which means by default, this video is not being absolute about time. Instead, I'm providing a general blueprint for goal structure you can tweak in any skill or medium to suit your goals and skill level. This goal blueprint was modeled as if a person with no experience was just getting started and looking at the new task. Keep up the great work! You'll crush your goals before you know it and with haste.
get video from recommendations... nice.
Thank you 😊
i wanna sound like marceline
I tried starting voice training like 3 times over the last three years and I just can't figure it out. I always overexert. I'd pretty much given up but maybe following this path is worth giving it another shot.
Thank you for the video.
Its funny how my mega republican dad tell me similar motivational things but his end goal is like a white picket fence family and mine is witch :)
can you make an updated youtube playlist with the videos in best order
Thank you goat
time to go back to practice i guess
The only thing that concerns me about changing my voice is I want to do voice work with animation (I wanna make my own cartoons)
and don’t wanna be stuck with one voice
Woah I had no idea you were trans. I love your music!
I wonder if this happens to anyone, but when I try to practice I"m eventually able to produce sound that is quite close to what I want, but unfortunately I forget to breath. I know it sounds weird, but somehow I concentrate so much on the sensations of the muscles in my throat that I just stop breathing. Does anyone know how to solve this?
weirdly i have an odd starting point for voice training being autistic. because i grew up vocal stimming/delayed echolalia so i already did the step of experimenting with my voice doing weird and random sounds and voices learning lots of control. but also i rarely talk so im like really bad at it and can never bring myself to speak in a clear loud voice i always speak quiet and monotone and dont know how to really speak naturally idk if that makes sense smth like that
Somehow I became so used to switching between my normal "chest voice" and falsetto that there's often no discernable jump, pop, or gap when I slide my pitch up and down from one range to the other (and I have a strong, musically trained ear, so it's unlikely that I'm just not hearing it). It's so easy to switch into falsetto that it's actually difficult to not use it at higher pitches. How do I stop myself from falling into falsetto as I try to go higher in pitch? I assume the general advice of "just play around with your voice near that range" will likely help some. But do you have any specific advice on that problem?
You have so many videos, where do I start?
am I buggin or is the background music following your cadence and pitch
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I was born as a girl. I have hormonal imbalance and my voice is deep for a female. Am I required to have a surgery? This voice makes me insecure everytime I am mistaken as a man. Sometimes, I am mistaken as a transgender.
You can train your voice without any surgery. Most people do. Surgery can't magically make your voice feminine, by the way.
I spent 1-2 hours practicing for over 3 months and just still sound male, if not a complete hon. I don't know where I went wrong but voice training isn't working.
That's okay! I sounded really rough for over a year when I started my voice journey. The past does not predict the future self. How much time you actually spend practicing doesn't predict how quickly you progress. if you are unsure of what you should be listening for or you aren't listening at all, then you could spend even more hours per day with little success. The most important thing is constructive perception. What have you been trying to listen for? Progress is gatekept by awareness and perception during action, rather than just action.
3 months still isn’t enough to pass! i’m sure it’s better than the start. like she said, work on sounding more comfortable with your voice. don’t strain.
BUT most importantly, focus on the small goals. the improvement each month. not that 5 year goal :)
@@not.a.robott not a single small goal was hit, I couldn’t sound remotely feminine lmao
@@TransVoiceLessons I just can’t get any kind of inflection in my voice, I can barely if at all control pitch, and the resonance of my voice is unchangeable. I cannot control my voice whatsoever, and it ends with dozens of conversations a day getting called “miss” at the start and then “sir” by the end. Any attempt at changing has made me sound squeakish and high-pitched rather than relaxed and natural sounding
@@skystheaimbot3789 i’m sorry and i totally relate. it’s hard. i’m just saying we have to remember ANY progress is progress. how do you expect to be properly gendered on the phone 100% of the call when you’re only 3 months in? clearly just getting gendered correctly at the start is a huge win. please give yourself more credit and don’t give up. unless that’s what you want to do, then do that
I should not of waited till 12 hours 50 min before e. 😅
Thank you Z for another cool vodeo lesson. Btw. I like seeing you with a t shirt. I think I have not had a chance before seeing you kind of with cassual dress. And I like it a lot. You look wanderfull as always. And only after some time I received recognized what is the picture on a t shirt. 😊😊😊 very cool.
Helloo. 😎
Hi 😂get some sleep and see ya soon 😊
hi
Just landed here! Am I cute, yes? 🥰
But like your voice is so pretty and mine is so deep and ugly and it's never gonna be half as good as yours
DON’T SAY THAAAAT
Voice training is a skill that we develop. Obviously Z is on another level with vocals this is her career etc, but half as good is absolutely doable. It’s not fair to directly compare yourself to someone who’s devoted their entire life to this skill and is years and years into their journey. You can get a voice you think is pretty, I believe in you ❤
Hi, hope you're doing alright.
I get where you're coming from because this is also a thought I have had, but there is literally no value in this sentiment. Her voice is pretty because she spent a long time developing it. I myself have a long way left to go until I can sustain a voice I can identify with, but I am getting there. I know it's frustrating. But there is no way to know how "good" your voice is going to be, and telling yourself it will never be good enough is totally utterly pointless. You wouldn't talk to a friend this way, so please stop doing it to yourself.
There are so many different kinds of voices a woman can have, and even if you never end up sounding like Z, you can still end up sounding like a version of yourself you can be confident in. There isn't one way to sound like a woman and I think you're doing yourself a disservice if you're going to keep insisting that you can't do it. I don't know how long you've been trying to feminise your voice but there is always progress to be made. It could take you a while, or maybe not very long at all, to get to a point where you realise how far you've come. Those points are gonna continue coming as you move closer and closer to being happy with your voice.
It can be really daunting but it's going to get easier and it's worth it to put the effort in. Please treat yourself with the patience and kindness you would grant others, you don't deserve any less than that
@@Amaling Nah lmao, all my practice hasn't worked and im still a full fucking hon. It doesn't work for a lot of people, after months and months of practice I only got clocked worse and literally had a friend give a huge negative reaction to my voice. It doesnt matter for some, it's just not happening for me and many others.
@@skystheaimbot3789 Do you think you've had the wrong approach to your practice? Months and months of practice sounds nice, but if that practice is using the wrong methods it can be a bad case of forming the wrong habits.
Also, I feel like the negative reaction your friend had can be a good thing. Yeah, I know. It's not something you want to see from a friend, but it's important to fail. That's how we learn! Sometimes failure can be brutal, yes, but it's necessary. I'd say that's a good friend to have. They were honest and didn't lie about it. If they did you probably would've kept up that routine, right?
What's the next step? I'm not sure. That's up to you to find out. I don't know what you've tried or haven't tried. I don't know what you sound like right now. But I know it's not impossible.
Judging by your videos and username I'd say you're pretty good at FPS games. You have the dedication to improve yourself. How does it sounds for someone else to say they've practiced for months and months to get good at shooters only to say they suck and keep losing and they say it doesn't matter? But - plot twist - they've been playing on a controller and using a 60Hz monitor with a dial-up connection!
Anyway, I think I've typed enough of a book here. Hopefully you get something out of it!
Saying things like "never" will put you in a very negative headspace. I use to say things like this and worry about pain lasting "forever" and things "never" getting better. But using those words just causes more pain. Then your brain starts attacking you with more "never"s because it's so used to it!
I'm not sure how you feel about this, but I am absolutely impatient with things! The thought of "Oh, with enough time I could do this." But how long? I don't want to wait a long time. I want huge progress right now! I hate where I'm at! Luckily I've been working on dealing with patience and letting things change and flow with time. It's also nice to look back at the things I've accomplished over the years!
And, like it's already been said before, comparing yourself to others will only bring you down. I'm guilty of this, too! We all are at least a little bit from time to time. Yeah "don't compare yourself to others" is easier said than done, but being aware of it makes it easier to learn to get rid of that habit. Social media is a big culprit of that: we see everyone's highlights, but never their struggles. People just want to post about the good things (which gets likes, views, hearts, whatever), so we generally never get to see the bad stuff or struggles.
Sorry, I'm kinda rambling on now! Anyway, I just hope that I was able to contribute something worth while along with the other nice people replying!
Why am I here?
Western civilization really has become cuckoo cuckoo land.
yeah freedom sucks fr i hate when people do what they want and are allowed to have their own personal beliefs
Ok... Why did you click this video if you have such an opinion?
Go back to thinking work = life, drone.