Bad News For Boeing
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- Опубліковано 11 вер 2024
- After finding new issues with a 777X test aircraft, confirmed by The Air Current, Boeing has ceased test flights with the aircraft as it looks to work past the fresh concerns impacting the upcoming long-haul type.
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We are getting GTA VI before The Boeing 777x even gets certified.
For real bro
If this actually happens it’ll be so embarrassing
It wont its just sarcasm @@kfl16
@@nickolliver3021 nah it actually can cause gta 6 is coming out fall 2025 if no delays
@@kfl16 I've not seen it advertised to come out next year
Previous video - Good new gor Boeing
This video - Terrible news for Boeing
What a rollercoaster lol
And before the good news it was bad news 😂
@@AviationforAustralia yes, exactly lol
at least they arent trying to hide it
THEY CAN'T ANYM0RE.
YET
@@planestrainsdogsncars4336 Boeing is under brand new (and better management) so that most likely won’t happen
@@thatonerandomkid-r2n Hummmmm
Well, the plane stranded a bunch of engineers and FAA staff in Hawaii, so… 😂
Plus this will result in huge delays, which must be immediately factored in for shareholders and customers counting on a specific EIS for their new planes. Impossible to hide. 🫤
Let’s confirm a new 10 yers extension to all A380-800 yeah
And 777s
Why not just embrace the A350-1000 really?
@@fobitabecause a380's capacity vs fuel burn is unparalelled
@@pandamisha yep. Works well for Emirates hub and spoke model. I love the speed and stability of the jumbo, but so many have been against it.
lol this actually might make airbus want to make a neo version for the a380
It's amazing how back in the last century, Boeing researched, designed and certified airliners, with pens and sliderules, and delivered them in a span of several years or so. Fast forward to the modern computer age, and this process can take a decade.
Is taking more than a decade and is just an upgraded model, a design from scratch would take at least 15 years
Future update, the 777x enters into service in 2033.
Right about the same time an A350 neo enters service.
Prove it
@@l3v1ckUK the A370 lol....
By then, we will have space-planes that can fly from New York to Tokyo in two hours!
@@kevinp8108 As long as it's not boeing manufactured................look at the poor spaceliner astronauts marooned at the ISS.
I think a lot of airlines will pull the orders if it doesn’t get certified by 2025.
Airbus laughing at Boeing atm
I don't blame them 😂
The thing is Airbus wont be able to capitalized on this short term since their order book is already filled but if they continue on their current trajectory with the A321, A350, and A330 lineup they are looking like the right bet for any airlines.
Unfortunately, Airbus' order books for narrow body a/c are full to the brim and overflowing. The wide body category is also very well selling with waiting times. What Airbus can improve is offer the A350 with more engine options than the current choice, then the wide body order books will be overflowing as well.
Well, at least it was on a test aircraft rather than the actual thing
Coming soon...
@user-yt198 it won't happen to the actual aircraft, because if they can't solve it, it won't enter service.
The engines will just fall off on the real thing.
@@timex513 Its a failsafe design. That's why there are 2 of them on each engine. At least they didn't hide it this time.
Went from good to bad in a day
More like went from bad to worse
Lockheed could probably bring back a 2 engine L1011 by the time Boeing figures this thing out
That would be awesome Lockheed back in the commercial airline business would make sure Airbus still has competition in the wide body market.
@@Dischingo The Tristar was better than this anyway........ in its time i mean, this is more like the DC10 with its cargo doors falling off
What do you expect, those are bloody big engines. Boeing tried to use parts designed for smaller engines I expect, well what do you know, it's Boeing. (satire)
Wow the last time I watched this channel was like 2 years ago and damn the production quality has upped up alot since then!
still not enough for boeing
structure issues could be a huge delay, especially the engine pylon
Hell of alot better to catch in testing than service.
By the time this plane gets certified it will be completely obsolete!
No it wont
Time to cut the bean counters out of the equation and let the Boeing ENGINEERS take the reins like they used to. Cutting corners just to save a buck is what engineers have been fighting against for decades now.
Sorry, this is good news. The safety of the plane is not ignored any more by Boeing. This is why we test planes and do test flights
that's why there known as test flights. situation normal?
While bad news for Boeing and disappointing, better to catch the flaw now during test flights than have a tragedy on a commercial flight later.
Bruh ill be 70 before I get to fly in this thing wtf
@@saivarshan3076 how old are you now, 20?
1989 Joker: "That company needs an Enema!" * blows twice on Party Blower *
That's a good one!
11½ years since project launch and it is not a new design. This project takes a long time.
Was there anybody surprised by this news?
Emirates, Lufthansa and Co. are looking forward to more Boeing payments .....
737Max, 777x, SLS, Starliner.... are they capable of building anything beyond a paperclip anymore?
Don’t forget the freaking KC-46 program! That should be right up there with the MAX, probably worse than the 777X honestly.
Its well past time Boeing got their house in order there seems to be no substantial effort to do this. Sure the business has to think years into the future but with so many problems with current aircraft I dont know how they even get started.
they are. This isnt about the house being in a better shape. Something was making this worse than it was
This is good news. They do testing right.
Absolutely not, testing was done on this aircraft, the part failed during FAA CERTIFICATION - as in their job was to show the FAA that the plane was complete and safe for the public.
They also did NOT detect the issue till the part completely fractured, likely only because the plane was instrumented still. Had this plane gone into service (which Boeing was essentially telling the FAA it could…) I believe it would have resulted in the engine detaching from the pylon during takeoff/climb. In revenue service the thrust link wouldn’t have been examined for a very long time, and it wouldn’t have been picked up by standard instrumentation on production aircraft.
So no, not good news. It’s pure luck that Boeing caught this the way they did.
How fate turns like "If it's Boeing I'm going" to "If it's Boeing I'm not going".😢😢😢😢😢
Boeing is paying the price for many years of poor management that favored investors over engineering and product quality...
this hasn't got to do with poor management
The capitalist system at its worst.
Yes, it is poor management. Boeing gave priority to MAX certification and caused 777X tests to be delayed. If they didn't do like that, this problem could have been noticed last year and already fixed now.
The thrust links are the components that failed. Thrust link’s purpose is to transfer the GE Gen9x Turbofan engine’s thrust power to the Boeing 777x wings which pulls the airplane forward.
Since the GE Gen9x can produce over 100,000 lbs. of thrust it will make sense to make the thrust links more robust to handle all that thrust power.
If it’s Boeing, I’m still going. I ain’t scared to do anything.
@@CrazyLlama771 enjoy
Says the Boeing stocks owner.
@@dikoman516nah just says anyone with a brain, nobody going to do because you go on Boeing, otherwise it wouldn’t be an aircraft company
Only needs some XCAS and a crate of spare parts, some self assembly required
I'm 52 years old now and by the time this plane gets certified I'll be 90 years old by then! LOL!!! 😂 Better to be safe than sorry n its a good thing they are finally fixing the problems with this beautiful new birds. I had really high hopes that it was almost getting it's certification by the FAA n be put into service next year. Might get push to 2026-2027 for deliveries probably now.
Was it missing a bolt? Was the bolt installation!, documented? Tourq rated
Yesterday, the headline was "Good news for Boeing" at another channel.
It was this channel 😉
The cracked engine mount findings happened 3 days ago. This channel should have checked its news sources before publishing another another "good news for Boeing" video yesterday. He felt embarrassed about that.
That’s what test flights are for, to test and find failed or failing components, equipment(s) etc then make adjustments or upgrades.
I don't get why finding an issue with the structural integrity of the aircraft IN TESTING is viewed in a negative light. That is the whole point of testing: to find what design feature works according to the designs, preliminary sketches, and modeling before it was built.
This why you do flight tests and inspection.
I wish they did this with the MCAS on the 737 MAX.
Im not an apologist for Boeing, but I do sympathise when aircraft design hits a few snags when it pushes past current technology, but my gripe with Boeing, is that if they hadn't given priority to other projects over the 777X for so long, we would be past this point and the aircraft in service by now.
And I wonder if Emirates are closer to ordering the A350-1000 yet, as insurance against the continued 777X jinx, or are they going to operate those 380s until they become just as pensionable as Tim Clarke...😀...
They just bought 4 more A380s a few days ago! They’re all-in, and that was before this news… VERY good decision on their part.
@@EstorilEm
Perfect aircraft for Emirates right now, but eventually they'll need to replace them. If the 777X certification fiasco develops into an in service jinx as well, then they'll need to reassess their policy of having a young fleet........
@@artrandy Hah I still think of the 380s as all being young, but I guess we are just getting older. Still, they ALL have a small cycle count thanks to the long haul nature of their ops.
They’ve definitely managed to make the aircraft work for them, and regardless of the economics - passengers universally love the plane (on the flip side, most actually dislike the 77W due to noise/fatigue it seems?)
We shall see - personally I think this is a MASSIVE issue that could result in an additional year delay for EIS. From my understanding of the failure, if they had gone TOGA or attempted another takeoff without discovering this - it very likely would have resulted in the engine departing the aircraft. Its entire purpose is to transfer some 100,000lb~ish thrust to the wing structure. There are simply no other components on the engine or wing-side of the pylon designed to handle those loads without it.
As is common, it’ll probably take another week or two for this to really blow up in the media or to discover more details.
Still profit over safety, shame on you Calhoun.
how is this profit over safety? shame on you for typing a silly comment
Such structural failure is actually massive set down, it means the whole wing needs to be reviewed, as one part has a relation to the next part in their strength calculations. This can’t be solved by diligence.
if Boeing wants to stay in the game it needs a B737MAX replacement asap . . . and that new Boeing narrow body jet should be fully operational & in service with airlines by 2035 - 2036 . . . two get rid of the folding wing tips from the B777-9X or replace it with a conventional fixed wing tip . . . things will be a lot easier then . . .
Get rid of the folding wingtips and it’s now a Class VI jet, same as the A380. That means fewer airports to fly into. The wingtips are here to stay.
The wingtips are one of the only things on this plane that DON’T seem to be giving Boeing any issues.
Don’t forget, this is basically a 777-300ER with the wing that plane always should have had. Shorten the wing and you’re back to square one. Its economics are already marginal (given it’s 6yr delays - would have been much more appealing if it entered service in 2020 or something.)
And no, their last two projects to simply upgrade existing designs have been TERRIBLE with the KC-46 and the 777X, I don’t think anyone on the aviation world has faith in Boeings ability to design and actually produce a clean-sheet aircraft right now.
The entire company needs to have a massive “come to Jesus” moment. Like everyone. Even the janitors. 😂
@@EstorilEm Amen...
If it is fatique then it is going to be a lengthy exercise to redesign and certify the new engine mounts, as they are part of the aircrafts main structure, finding premature fatique in them is as significant as finding it in the main spar!
exactly....... this is a year delay before it can be retested again...depends how serious it is.
That there are problems found during testflights is not uncommon. The main issue is, they are way behind schedule. It seems they found more than enough problems that needed to be adressed to proceed as intended. Airlines will be far from amused to see a further delay getting their aircraft. Boeing seems to fight a battle on multiple fronts they might not be able to win in time.
The commercial aircraft, whether it be Boeing or any other aircraft is the most sophisticated machine ever built. There is virtually no unimportant part in the aircraft so it must be completely trouble free. I am impressed by Boeings aim to make a perfect machine. Boeing will come out of this better than ever.
"Boeings aim to make a perfect machine"
Boeing: $$$ 😅
Failure of engine mountings is a huge deal! God forbid 400+ souls taking off on 777-X and suddenly engines fall off the wings!
DJ, have they done wing flex testing yet? Computer models aren't enough!
Boeing is working on converting B52s for passenger use. It would happen faster than 777X certification. 🤷♂️
How many flight hours had these planes endured? Not many i guess . Scary situation.
Here we go again,truly disgraceful,Their so called customers must be delighted!!more compensation to be paid .Just buy Airbus
They can't. Nobody will just buy airbus.
Good
Airbus should boost their production of A350-1000 for sure other airlines will shift to A350 if these B777x will not certified in 2025
I guess the only good thing about this is that they caught the issue BEFORE delivery of the regular unites. A low bar generally, but, it would seam, a higher bar for Boeing, so i guess it's a good thing.
Still i wouldn't fly Boeing for the foreseeable future, i do plan to live a few more years after all.
I bet it will not be delivered in 2026 for sure...
Prove it
They will deliver one on December 30th 2026, so they can tick a checkmark and management get their bonuses.
On January 2nd, they will call it back in for service, because they forgot to put the cabin interior and to ensure that all bolts are in place.
DJ downer on Boeing again. Tough industry .
When your design uses magic pixie dust instead of high quality alloy
Well when you’re mounting engines the size of AirBNB’s on an aircraft wing, the mounting brackets should uh…🙄
They're doomed.....
They are not doomed. They are too big of a company to be doomed. They'll be fine.
Both Boeing and AB are buying titanium from China that recently has been found to have flaws.
From finding a flaw in testing?
No we're not. I work for Boeing. We'll get it figured out as soon as we come back from our strike. 😂 seriously.
Still ain't going
Maybe the new guy will clean up. Still a lot of dirt will pop up in the near future.
Now early 2026 is logical. Maybe Lufthansa was right.
We don't know how long this delay could be
Do these teething issues happen with all new designs? It seems the 777X has been particularly troublesome.
Engines too heavy and powerful?
It’ll be at least 2026 at the earliest before this aircraft get its cert
Its a BOEING!
I am not going!
Every day bad news at Boeing, bad news at Boeing…when will it stop? 🤣
Who needs Engines?
Engines are overrated, fuel hungry and heavy. Get rid of them and save on weight and fuel.
Are parts holding the engine on the wing really that important?
This is another Boeing death trap
I love the Boeing 777X. It can open the wing tip, close it back. Open close, open close, open close, open close, open close, open close.....
It doesn't need to fly you know...
Awesome creation ❤️
Will be launch somewhere around 2050… maybe.. failed product..
oh yeah prove it
This aircraft gonna get old before it's certified 😅😂😅
Bad news for Boeing ; 1. Should never have merged with McDonnell Douglas. 2. Should never have ended production of the 757. 3. The 737 Max single handedly destroyed the company's reputation. Good news for Boeing : fire the McDonnell Douglas executives. 2. Return the headquarters to Seattle and Let engineers run the company again. 3. Re-open the 757 production line and make it more competitive with Airbus' 320 series. Put the flex wing on the updated 757. 4. Scrap the 737 Max and the Dreamliner 5. Apologize to the families of the whistleblowers who died.and the families of the passengers who died in the Max crashes. 6. Apologize to the employees of Boeing ,who worked hard to build high quality, safe, state of the art aircraft, only to have their livelihoods put in jeopardy. 7. Get the astronauts back home and stay out of the space program until you learn to safely transport people here on earth .Boeing needs to do some soul searching before they end up in the aviation graveyard.
Why would they remake the 757? It would have to be recertified as a brand new aircraft……..so you might as well build a brand new aircraft
@@tomstravels520 you must not be familiar with how popular the 757 was. Many airlines, for many years, had been begging Boeing to bring it back and make an updated version. Pilots loved it's rocket-like take-off speed; especially those pilots who once flew fighter jets in the military. Passengers loved it and when it was originally built, it was designed with Rolls Royce RB-211 engines, to operate from airports with short runways but still have the power to operate long distance flights. I worked at an airport for a number of years and in the aviation industry, the 757 earned the nickname: the "Ferrari of the skies", or the " Seattle rocket". It was a much loved aircraft and had the capability to do so much. There was no need for a 787 Dreamliner, when that technology could have been incorporated into an updated version of the 757. Remember, Boeing never built a -100 series 757 because they wanted to leave that option open in the future, should they want to build a "down-sized" version like they did with the 747. ( The 747 SP- special performance). A down-sized 757 would have been a more logical way to compete with the the A320 rather than trying to "Max out" the 737, which was an almost 60 year old aircraft. The 757 by comparison is still fairly young and the potential was there, to incorporate new technology and features for today's market . Not to mention, that it is a beautiful, very sleek and very graceful jet. It is pleasure just to look at it .
@@jocelynharris-fx8ho you don’t need to tell me the history of the 757. I know all about that stuff. But it doesn’t matter how popular it is. Boeing isn’t going to build a new assembly line to build the 757 again even with new wings and engines when it would have to be recertified exactly like a brand new plane and go through the whole testing and elevation process again. It’s bad enough trying to get the 777x through that process at the moment let alone a brand new plane. A replacement for the 757 yes that could be possible, but Boeing have put that project on hold whilst they sort out their current problems and Airbus is steaming ahead with the A321Neo, LR and XLR
I predicted this headline 2 days ago. 😂😂
Boeing found a part that it seemed doesn't meet its specs. That means Boeing is going to have a chat with the supplier so that the component is up to spec before installing them on customers' plane.
Calling this bad news was expected by the media, but it's actually good news.
I predict that the next 'Bad News For Boeing ' will be about the 787. I mean, why report them together when you can monetize two separate videos? SMH.
The way people talk about this is crazy. If you don’t find problems or areas of interest in testing, chances are you’re not doing a good job testing.
Even if people hate Boeing and love Airbus it still hurts the industry when you go around fear mongering.
Or my favorite quote from this week, “Boeing finds flaw in testing, is this the end for Boeing?”
It is bad news, because it may mean a delay in delivery. If Boeing wasn't already late for several years, it wouldn't be a big issue.
By the way, why did you delete your comment on yesterday's video? Or will you deny again that you deleted your comment?
@sainnt and as usual, engagement brings more money
@@user-yt198 Are we back to this crap about deleting? I'm not deleting anything.
Liar
At this point just ditch the plane bro cause boing is becoming a complete failure. Disappointing.
Adding 777x in my "no fly" list.
why should you
These guys need to think twice about going on strike there craftsmanship is poor and isn’t getting any better. Maybe they should go on strike and destroy the company altogether and a venture capitalist would buy it pennies on the dollar. As they say you’ve got to hit rock bottom before you can see the forest through the fires. Now I’m one that things can get better but negotiations are two sided sword Corporate leadership and Union Stewards better make some major concessions. These things really bring light to those actually building the planes rockets or anything built by Boeing. Imagine is very tarnished in my opinion it can always be improved but in this case it might take awhile good luck.
Funny start Dj!!
Lovely very good news
Nothing goes in the right path for the 777X! Good luck to the key customers.
@@golf94srm nothing goes right at boeing
I think I will wait a few years to fly the 777X after it makes its debut. I've learned this from the 737MAX disasters!
why should you? the max disasters have nothing to do with the 777x delays
@@nickolliver3021 all new aircraft still have kinks to iron out when they are released for passenger use. Look at the B787 when it first launched! Lithium battery issues.
Good decisions. Once those pilons start cracking and the engines falling of the plane, I don't want to be on that thing.
@@todortodorov6056 then dont fly anything
@@todortodorov6056 I don't want to be under it either.......
I think the A380 production line will be reinstated and delivering aircraft before the 777X is certified.
😊🔫
Dj's: "sighs......"
Really a biased channel against boeing
Nope. Every channel/media on Earth is biased. It's necessary for thriving😅.
Good news to humanity
How many 777x has Boeing produced so far other than the test aircraft?
quite a lot in storage
According to Seattle Times 30. It makes *$6 billion* in net prices. It is poor management to let them rot in the factory and gave priority to MAX7 and MAX10 which have negligible airframes finished.
No blow..its part of the process.......
while it’s normal to have things come up as it’s in this phase of testing-it’s important to get things perfect-otherwise the same hypocrites will be the same folks complaining….they need to get to the root problem-those that’re making parts for boeing
If you think you jinksed/jinkst/ jinxed its top talking about it. Not sure is jinx even a word?
Tofu-dreg
😂😂😂😂
Can this be true?
I thought Airbus was a bunch of cowboys when they used different versions of CATYA in Tolouse and Hamburg that led to the A380 tubing and cabling not matching up.
But Boeing is truely taking the crown!
CAN Boeing do anything right? B737, B777X, Starliner, Airforce One, K Tanker.
Anything they touch turns to booboo.
Airbus was a mess in the 2000's. In 2006 they had 3 CEOs, with Christian Streiff lasting only 5 months. But they managed to clean up and streamline the company structure. This also includes stupid decisions like using two different software versions. After the A380, projects were managed much better.
@@todortodorov6056And now the A350 seems like the perfect (high capacity) widebody aircraft!
With the trendline Boeing is on, I am waiting for them to start a new designation…the 666.
every single time boeing is screwed
airbus is screwed too
@@nickolliver3021 not as bad as boeing
@@luiswebster4998 oh yeah. They couldn't design a fireproof fuel tank. More to come in the coming years for sure
@@nickolliver3021 loads more problems for both manufactures looks like there is no clear path for either of them
@@luiswebster4998 no. Clearly not. It'll only get worse and they will seize to exist
here's the issue for me: Will they Fix the issue or will they do a botch job and cover-up, a la MAX?
Boeing should stop panicking and responding to Airbus, concentrate on making planes again and not get all bothered by the success of their rival.
why would you expect a botch job just like what the MAX went through? they will do a thorough fix for it and not a botch job!
@@nickolliver3021 Of course they will...oh...wait a minute....heard that song before....They REALLY REALLY FIXED the MAX didn't they......but they are not flaws, they are "Quality Escapes" - you know, as in
The knowledge of building safe aircraft escapes us for the time being....
@@swanvictor887 Where have you got the term Quality escape from.this recent issue? PH wait you just love to use previous terminology to say what it was. Jumping to conclusions as to why it happened. Im fed up of this I know it all attitude before the summary of what happened and why from the manufacturer themselves
@@nickolliver3021 We know what the issue is: some naughty person forgot to bolt the door in place. Forgive me if I don't take Boeing's word for gospel these days....they do have a bit of history, after all...
@@swanvictor887 Where has this got to do with the door? Airbus forget to make sure their fuel tank was fireproof oh wait they do have a bit of history too .....
So they found an issue during testing 🤔 ummmm that's why you test. For the idiots calling it out this was apart of boeing transparency with customers to let them know if anything is found in testing that needs to be addressed. Every plane maker auto maker test extensively to find issues and what do you know they found one of concern, that's going to be fixed immediately. These videos just make for clicks because it's boeing. I bet a similar video regarding Airbus finding minor issues with testing wouldn't be created.
Some other idiots don't understand that the main issue is not finding problems during testing. The main issue is 777X certification has been already delayed for several years and this new issue will create further delay while everybody was expecting 777X aircraft to start to be delivered.
Boeing gave all its engineering force to MAX7 and MAX10 certification, postponing 777X tests to be delayed and caused this technical issue to surface this late. At the end of the day neither MAX7, nor MAX10, nor 777X was certified, those idiots don't seem to notice.
Starting to feel like Airbus saboteurs have been hired by Boeing…
Nowadays, everything seems to be possible…
🤔
Cause what’s most important is that it gets certified actual safety doesn’t matter, 😂
Looking forward to the B777MAX 😆🤣
Harley Davidson has done away with their DEI and woke hiring standards, and so has John Deere. Maybe Boeing and the airlines should start watching them at this point.
Security FIRST boeing
good news to bad news lol