DIY DDR MAT!
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- Опубліковано 23 лип 2024
- Aamaris built a thing! Wooooo!
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It's actually fine to use a lighter for heat shrink tubing, just don't let the flame touch, let the heat rise into the tubing.
Thank you for the tip!
In PC, using a regular DDR dance mat to play Stepmania, if you press Start+Select,
the arrow buttons will become action buttons(cross, circle, triangle e square) and vice versa, because the pc recognizes the mat as a normal joystick. Maybe if you used the buttons tracks it wouldn't give this axis problem.
Really like your tutorial: the copper conductive tape is a really nice touch for the contacts. Way easier than trying to etch something onto a circuit board, print something with conductive ink, or purchase purpose-built switches.
Very much the same principle as a cobalt flux pad. Very nice
I once bought a PS2/PS3 foam mat to play Stepmania and also got the Axial issues.
The easiest way to solve this for me was, I swapped the Up and Right wires on the pad with Triangle and Circle. I was able to keep the same Up and Right functionality for PS2 and use the pad on Stepmania with no axial problems.
I'm happy you played Rhythm & Police. That's my jam.
Great video! Wish I had the guts to attempt this.
I really want to build my own pad too. I play around 11-13 foot songs... would something like this hold up?
Current year update: you may want to try the Brook Zero-Pi PCB. It's pretty reasonably priced ($25) and it works on PS2,PS3,PC, and the Nintendo Switch. It also lets you switch between whether directions emulate the D-Pad or one of the analog sticks, and that usually lets me fix things on the spot.
I'm thinking about building my own and like your approach the best. How's it holding up?
So impressed.
Great tutorial! Makes someone as inexperienced as me feel able to make one.
I like the nail polish idea!
This is so cool!
Love this, bought original ps3 konami mats, and they didnt work the way i wanted then to, so i’m gunna try to modify them onto wood or sturdy foam pads.
Great job! I found this while looking for tips on how to make my own pad. How's it holding up? My biggest concern is the copper tape. How does it handle the stresses, if any?
Using scissors as a wire stripper. So much precision haha.
great vid!
Omg! Just found you while looking for a ddr pad design to do with my daughter. This is the best design I found so far. Get a patreon and Ill sign up! Also, could you maybe make some simple circuit projects for very young engineers? (1st through 3rd grade--with parents helping.) My nieces think I'm the only girl engineer in the world. And they both love engineering and science.
Great video! I've been thinking about doing this for a long time but it always seemed too complicated :p
Me gusta!! Great job!
Subbed for clarity, sophisticated n LAUGHS. xD x]
This is such a neat video. I'm trying to build a pad using Promit's V4 design, but my sensors all have too low of resistance and I'm not engineering-minded at all, so I'm struggling with how to move forward :( Your design is so cool, and I love that you cooked it up yourself.
I'm trying out Promit's design now as well. I'm testing out some 4 mil velostat right now; resistance for a 3"x3" square is ~20k unloaded, about 300 ohms lightly preloaded (a 5x7 paperback book), and between 75 and 150 ohms when triggered. Depending on the voltage divider that you use and how sensitive a microcontroller you use to read the voltages, it seems like it might be finicky. I'm also studying if/how the velostat resistance returns to normal after triggering: it doesn't seem to be as quick as I might like, though it's just qualitative multimeter readings at this point.
@@jorymil Hey, thanks for the reply. It took about six months for someone to give me a straight answer on how to apply resistors, but once someone did, I was off to the races, and I'm happy to say my pads now work perfectly :D
do u plan 2 do more gameplay vids?
Would it be easier to modify the size of the wood instead of having to cut the lexan?
probably but then it probably wouldnt be arcade spec... if that doesnt matter than yea
Heyya I'm curious about trying to make my own dance mat. Been trying to find a pre-made one for a few months now but not having much luck. Well, the ones I can find will cost an arm and leg considering they are companies based in the states and I'm sadly in the UK. I was wondering, how much did this build cost you to make? as well as can you recommend any good sites for the control box components? Is the RJ45 set up necessary or is there an easy alternative if I wanted to make it purely a USB mat? As you can see I have a lot of questions and I am kind of a newbie at DIY >_>
Hi there, thanks for your questions! This build ended up costing me more than I planned for because I decided to use a few materials that were a bit costly. The biggest expenses were the copper tape (3 inch wide by 55 yards long: $70. I probably used less than half the roll though. I did a quick search and found some 1 inch wide 21 yard rolls for $15. Make sure the adhesive is conductive), Lexan Polycarbonate sheets (the large sheet was $28 + $35 shipping on ebay, and the small sheets were an 8 pack on amazon for $28--so total about $84 for all of it), the multi-console cthulhu (the brain of the control box--$40). THEN I had to get a bunch of miscellaneous tools like a little soldering iron, a rotary tool, etc. All of that drove the costs up a bit, but I don't think they have to be necessary, depending on how you plan your build. Instead of polycarbonate, you can use acrylic, which is typically less expensive and easier to find (make sure it has a little bit of flex though, so you don't have to stomp as hard for the buttons to register). You can get a smaller roll of copper (if you choose to use copper as opposed to aluminum or steel. I chose copper because it's very conductive), and plan your build and materials so you don't need to solder if possible, etc.
The RJ45 set up isn't necessary if you want to be exclusively usb, It's just convenient if you want to switch between systems. You can even cannibalize an old/cheap soft ddr pad for its control box! I purchased the PCB directly from Godlike Controls (which doesn't seem to be accepting orderes for the time being), but Focus Attack (www.focusattack.com) and Ultimarc (www.ultimarc.com/) also sell PCBs. I bought my buttons, control box wiring, and adapted PS2/USB to RJ45 from Focus Attack. I haven't purchased anything from Ultimarc, but I found them in a tutorial that may be helpful to you: www.s-config.com/a-better-dance-dance-revolutionstepmania-mat-controller-with-i-pac/
BUT do some research on PCBs, because I haven't been able to get my pad to work well on anything except my PS2 (on PS3 & PC, I can't get opposite directions to register simultaneously. I don't know if that's because the PCB may be specifically intended for arcade/fighting game controls, or some other issue). It may even be a good idea for you to try ripping apart an inexpensive soft pad intended for use on your chosen system and using that as the controller instead (that may require a little bit of soldering though). If you decide to go with a PCB, see if you can get one that allows you to screw the wiring in place rather than requiring soldering (like the Cthulhu at 4:44. I think the I-Pac controllers have screw downs as well), which will keep you from having to buy an extra tool (but if you have to solder, you can do it! Just find a good youtube tutorial, get some blank PCB bread boards and practice until you feel confident. I had no idea how to solder before this project). Another tip, if you build your control box separate from the board like I did, make sure there is enough room in the box for all the wires, PCB controller, buttons and stuff. My little blue box is pretty cramped lol. Also, if you use copper tape, maybe consider permanently mounting a thin sheet of acrylic to the base of the board, or find a way to really get a smooth surface before laying down the bottom circuit. I find that the roughness of the wood allows the edges of the copper tape to peel up (the tape that's on the polycarbonate steps is solid though).
Here are some of the sites I used to get information. If you have any other questions or want more details or tips, feel free to ask and I'll help you as best I can! I had to do A LOT of research because I'd never made switches or game controllers before, and if I can help smooth your process along, I'd be happy to :).
(There may be some redundancies in the links below, but sometimes there is additional clarifying information)
zenius-i-vanisher.com/v5.2/viewthread.php?threadid=3350
www.anikionline.com/FAQs/ddr/ddr%20in%20web%20format3-2.htm#_Section_5_:
I was going to add more, but I have probably a hundred bookmarks saved for this project, and some for specific questions I had at the time. I think that those two sites may give you a good place to start, and if you want to know more, let me know. Don't get overwhelmed, this is actually a fun project if you like building things. Just make a plan and you'll be fine :). Good Luck, and let me know how it goes!
-Aamaris
First of all, you're awesome, I didn't expect such an in-depth response. Thank you so much for taking the time to reply :D
Also, you have given a bit of eureka moment I think I know why it's not registering the pressing of when you go for a left-right or an up-down step. The directional pads are being seen as a hat switch, which is used for directional pads and joysticks. The 4 directions are ruled by a control and when a button is pressed the control changes to a value. Now here is the interesting part, let's say you go to do a left-down step, when both of these are pressed a new value appears and the press is registered. Though if you press the trouble combinations the value resets to its neutral state and registers it like nothing has been pressed. Even though it does sense both pads being pressed it's the control value that cancels it out. If you imagine the dance mat like a joystick it's impossible for one stick to activate these directions. So maybe if the opposite directions were connected to a second control so they would no longer be on the same axis maybe that would fix it? Or maybe finding a way to stop the switch control value ruling over the direct input? What do you think?
Also thank you again for the in-depth answer, finding it so much easier to find the parts I was looking for now :)
HMMMMMMM!! I suspected that it was because it was registering as a joystick, and your value explanation seems to confirm that! I tried wiring it so that right and down would be 'X' and 'O' (I know that DDR mapped directions to the controller buttons as well), but that wasn't a clean solution. Wiring opposite directions to a second control is a very interesting idea! I think the two controls would have to be wired together somehow so that it still registers as part of the same controller, but I wonder if this is a possible solution! I have absolutely NO IDEA how to begin to stop the switch control value ruling over the direct input (I wish I did! I'm not sure how to access that in game, and I don't know if that's possible on the PCB itself, and I don't have access to any sort of program that might control the functions of the PCB). If you figure out how to do that, please let me know! And PLEASE share your build with me once you've finished! I'm very interested in how it all comes together, what parts you choose to use, your troubleshooting, and how you end up structuring it! I'm sure you'll come up with a lot of wonderful solutions :).
You're very welcome! I'm glad I could help, and if you have any other questions/issues, please feel free to keep in touch (you can also reach us through Facebook, linked in the description box)! We DDR home builders have to stick together ;)
nice DIY DDR pad! also don't forget 2 get XBOX, XBOX 360, Gamecube, and even Sega Dreamcast connections 4 DDR games on those consoles as well! i have 18 DDR games in total and also do gameplay vids as well from a Dancepad myself, though i don't have a DIY pad just of yet but i will one day i hope, until then, i'll play barefoot on a 1" hard foam DDR pad :/
may i ask how is it holdin' up?
when u're playin' DDR games or any rhythm games, always use a CRT TV like me! never play on LCD/LED TVs and use dedicated speakers like a sound system for a more better response time vs usin' terrible TV speakers
DOPE
I am curious, how long did this lovely project take? Minus the rewire after the Ethernet fail, of course. How has it held up over the last several years? And lastly, how heavy is it weight wise? Thanks! DDR FTW
Sorry but where can I find that program with songs??
The game is stepmania, and you can find songs on stepmaniaonline.net/index.php?page=downloads
This is a great video ive watched it probably 5x and im now finally trying to make one after buying an LTek. Also i never realized how sexy of a voice you have.and not like weird way. Its just pleasant/comfortable and not abrasive like some youtibe videos. hould totally do audible
Are you dissatisfied with the L-Tek? I just bought a PIU one. Most people's issues seem to be with the fact that the sensors are only in the centre of the steps. I'm assuming you're more of a shuffly brackety endurance player
I want to do this, but I'm so uncoordinated I've never been good at the games, but I want to introduce my son to them so he can actually exercise while playing games.
DDR is great!! You can also buy the pads that are about 50$ and they are semi-soft (they have a foam insert) if you can't make or buy a metal one or you don't want a soft mat. I personally use a combo of DDR/Stepmania and Just Dance for excercise at home. Good luck!!
Did the pad last awhile?
Graeat job, the music is too loud though. Makes it hard to hear you speak sometimes
Its kinda like Jeremiah McRoberts make dance pads.
yikes