Straight up. Im glad when they players bring "analyst" back to reality. They swear they know more about a situation than the players who played IN the situation.
@@MrAfriKa former players think they're smarter than they are. This trend of having so many former athletes as analysts has gone too far. Same with all the women they have on these shows. Only half of the former athletes can even speak articulately. Not to mention all the blows they took to the head during their careers.
@@Ab-iz9uv but I was talking about the impact of being available while being unreliable.... which ties into both football and school.... which ends up being the same exact thing....
I love the selective memory - Ryan Clark likes to talk about his one pick against Eli during Eli's first full season as a starter, but neglects to mention the 2014 come-from-behind Giant win when Eli torched Clark's secondary with 3 TDs, no interceptions and a 118 QB rating. Or the 2014 Giants win when he threw for 4 touchdowns and 300 yards, making Clark look absolutely silly. Then, there was the 2008 game against Clark's Steeler team with its #1-ranked defense -- when Eli led the Giants to two 4th quarter scores and another come-from-behind win. Ryan Clark asks "When has a defense ever had to plan to stop Eli Manning?" All the time - just ask Bill Belichick. Maybe Clark should have tried it.
Eli had some great games and deserves to be in the HOF. He freakin' beat Brady and Belichick twice albeit w/ a very good Giant's defense. But no one would consider him a top 20 QB in the HOF.
@@vicfletcher8919Understood. My point is that they probably SHOULD have worried about him. Anyway, his post-season success combined with his career productivity push him into the HOF.
@@vicfletcher8919 Which greats did you have in mind? I agree that without those Super Bowls, Eli's not a Hall of Famer. He was never among the top 5 QBs in the league when he played. And sure, he had some quality receivers -- Burress, Nicks, Cruz etc. but one of the amazing things about Eli, I think, is that played his entire career without any HOF teammates on offense. (Unless Odell Beckham makes it in)
@@T_M_E_8 passionate is one thing But "connor mcgregoring" is other.... Nothing wrong about "mcgregoring" I even like connor But being passionate is otheeeer thing.
Pedro Pedrella no he’s not. The dude cares about football and is saying the truth about Eli. He isn’t throwing insults or saying he’s better than everyone else. He’s being passionate
Eli Manning played in 210 consecutive starts as an NFL QB. Eli Manning and the Giants beat the Patriots twice in the Super Bowl. Both came in the middle of the Patriot dynasty. Eli Manning is going to Canton wearing a gold jacket. Some talk the talk... Eli Manning walked the walk.
Facts. Man I still remember the shoulder shrug that Eli did as he walked out onto the field in his past series. Ya know what happened next. HE WON THE SUPER BOWL.... Enough said. By the way. He won another super bowl after that.
@@CaF614 you say that like that's not a big thing. Brady is called the greatest QB of all time and Eli beat him twice when it mattered most. That's not a small thing.
Sorry we let dudes get in Hof for getting no rings ? He won 2 and was a big reason why they won those 2 .. put him in hof because he beat Brady twice. Back to back .
@@gypsygypsy7185 Sorry those stout defenses are the reason why. Both games the 35+ppg Patriots were held below 20pts. Eli is the definition of mediocre (116-116). He's a HOFer for those 2 SB wins, but most importantly, 90% of the reason is because he's a Manning. BTW are you somehow implying Eli is better than Dan Marino or Jim Kelly, you know they are HOFers with no rings
@@tomknapp6194 , no foo.on the contrary, jus because his name IS Manning he will most likely get in..that's what my comment referred to, the name itself has pull.
@@tomknapp6194 ,totally agree. Which is why eli most likely getting in is BS. The committee catapulting these players in are becoming a joke. There will be two manning's in by the time eli gets looked at, they'll call it pedigree and slot him in over a much more deserving player.
Well considering Ryan Clark was a mediocre safety, and the other guy I don’t even know who that is at first glance. Eli was better at his position than Ryan Clark ever was. But don’t listen to anyone look at the facts. Of course we know the Super Bowls, and the Super Bowl mvps. What about top 8 all-time in Touchdowns, yards, and completions ? What about top 10 in game winning drives? What about 2nd most playoff road wins of all-time? What about his iron man streak? What about among the best in 4th quarter comebacks? Let me know when you come up with an excuse to explain this facts away?
Try watching the Giants vs 49ers in the 2011-12 championship game to go to the Super Bowl. Eli was outstanding in that game. How many 4th quarter comeback wins late in the 4th quarter did he have in his career. The guy was clutch. If Namath is in, Eli is certainly in!
@@GJLCreativeStudios u sound unintelligent jus by saying tht I guess u don't realize how complex NFL plays and understanding formations really is and then ur not factoring in tht most NFL players did 3 years of college or has a degree n being a college athlete is far from easy
Paul Mann just because you played the sport doesn’t make you a genius or expert. He wasn’t wrong though, Eli had a good career. Definitely not a HOF QB though
King Phantom do you know the meaning of context? Facing off against Eli yes Ryan Clark knows more than anybody at the table. Don’t use the comment as a blanket statement
The pass he threw to Manningham up the side line late was a defining moment. Perfect pass no quarterback could have thrown it better. Plus he's a manning that played in New York. Sports is about story lines. Defining moments. He played big in the games biggest game twice.
Eli Manning play Big in super bowl 42 scoring 17 points the New York Giants defense held the number one scoring offense to 14 points I think the defense was more important
Eli Manning's not the first quarterback to play in New York. Talk about showing up big in the biggest game Julian Edelman three super bowl wins one MVP. Help the patriots to make 7 of 8 straight AFC championships. Julian Edelman missed 2017 season with a torn ACL. Was Tom Brady's number one wide receiver for 8 years A 7th round college quarterback. You cannot tell the history of the New England Patriots without Julian Edelman. I don't care what is regular season numbers were just like everyone doesn't care about Eli Manning regular seasons 117-117 leading the league in interceptions three times. Eli Manning can go into the Hall of Fame because of the playoffs. Julian Edelman needs to go into the Hall of Fame for his playoffs. Second most catches and second most yards in the playoffs.
@@Dennis-nm1jm For the regular season, yes. In the postseason, their average points per game would have been the best in the league. Between 2007 and 2011, the Giants defense allowed an average of 15.1 points/game, no more than 20, and a passer rating of 74. And Eli still barely managed to win 5/8 games. 2 went to overtime in which he was an absolute non factor, but given credit for both game winning drives. Care to go any further? The correct answer is, "No." because I have fact that will destroy any Eli fan.
Eli Manning will get into the Hall of Fame at some point bc of his last name, his durability and beating the pats twice in the Superbowl when they were massive under dogs.
If his last name wasn't Manning and if he didn't play in NY - he would hardly be considered. He NEVER, not once, led the NFL in a single positive passer category. 16 seasons and only won a playoff game in two seasons. All-time leader in multiple turnover games.
Bacons Strip Lol tony romo isn’t the best commentator in football, he was getting a lot of criticism for his poor commentating before the AFC Championship. Then when he started predicting plays ppl were okay with him...
@@laynebrock He was predicting plays way before then, and a lot of people liked him. He was absolutely a hit with the fans a while ago. Not to mention people love his jokes, and his attitude towards the game. I'm not saying he's unanimously the most most popular ever, but you need to come back to reality if this is how you remember it.
@@kaderose1082 Personally I dislike Romo's commentary but I agree that he did have lots of fan support. I disliked the commentary because it shows me how high of a football IQ he has but I hate it cause it shows me he lacked the athleticism to do the things he sees as a QB.
@@teamrcket5103 My guy, if you get a top down perspective on the play field it's a lot easier to tell what's gonna happen. Especially when you've had to figure it out from behind a 6'4 center. Romo was always injured too, so it wasnt a lack of athleticism. Bein a good QB is difficult
Shneeky Tiki well every QBs Center is big so that’s irrelevant, and yes being a good QB is difficult for more reasons than just playing through injuries and the talent of your team, he just wasn’t great imo but I could care less about the support he gets from fans, doesn’t affect me
"I'm giving content that you can't give because you didn't play him" thanks Ryan Clark. Too many "analysis" not enough people who played the game and at a high level at that
Just because you play don't make you qualified to try to define another man's career. Why does it bother him so much, people get tirggered over the silliest stuff. Let that man live his life, stop being so negative all the time, it's really ok to just not have anything to say about someone if you don't have anything positive to contribute.
@bryan joiner never caused the Steelers tomlose a game played the part he had to pay well and was part of two SB wins polamaula ran free and Ryan had to shut idlt down at the sfatey position and he did his job good
@bryan joiner I never overated him said he was a solid safety who did his job the league has alot of players like that he was a part of the reason we won those 2 and nondoubt
eoe123321 salty because it’s true? Two things can be true....he will get in the HOF based off 2 playoff runs in 2 years of a 16 year career but he was never “elite”
Nope Aaron Rodgers is set to top that with $313, 144, 529, Matt Ryan $318, 707, 925 and Big Ben is set to make $272, 286, 864. Eli's earning won't make the Hall of Fame Stafford is closing in too. Aaron Rodger is the richest and its not even close when his endorsement money is added to the mix.
To date, Manning earned more than anyone else in NFL history. I do not feel sorry for the guy. He's stuck around too long. He was good in his prime but not great. Those 2 SB wins gets him in the HOF.
People forget about what any sport is all about: being a champion and being a fundamental part of it. Eli did that, twice. Against the greatest team ever, greatest player ever, and greatest coach ever. TWICE. HOF and not even a question.
You actually do have to have personal accolades and statistics which he doesn't have. Not a must two Superbowls.. he was never considered elite or a top 3 QB ever in his time.. not once.. no all pros. 4 pro bowls.. stop it
@@ibrahimaamer267 False. His name actually hurts him. He's getting in because he's a post season legend. Without his 2 legendary post season runs....he doesn't get in.
The problem is that there are salty Eli supporters who want the rest of the logical world to proclaim and agree that he is on the same ELITE level as most of the other QBs in the HOF, and that is just absurd. Nick Foles has a superbowl win and mvp against Brady and the Pats ..... anyone even mentioning any possibility of him getting a mention of HOF??? Why? Because he's a backup QB who had a great moment. Eli's greatest achievement is his longevity .... and along with 2 great moments ... he'll get a HOF nod.
Eli is too ten in Tds and Yards so you dont know what you're talking about. Eli manning has also broken all of his franchise records. A franchise that dates back to the 30s so Eli definitely is hall of fame material.
@@Dominican-cx8ny I mean starting for 15 odd seasons in the golden age of passing will do that for a QB statistically, and the franchise history thing doesn't mean much for the same reason. They didn't throw the ball regularly until the 1960s and even 1970s depending on the team you look at. I mean Tony Romo is number 1 in Dallas franchise history for every passing statistic, but he's certainly not Staubach or Aikman. Manning will be a HOFer, just not for being an elite QB; longevity and leading a team that beat Brady twice in his prime are his claims to fame. And that's perfectly fine.
, put eli in the hall of very good,,, his career is comperable to phill sims,, played a long time , had a handful of above average years won 2 titles, but was NEVER elite, thats a historical fact , damm ,,,,,the hall of fame should be reserved for those who dominated/ trancended their position for their era, payton did ,, eli did not!!!!!
Ryan Clark is 1,000% correct! Eli had great moments that will get him into the hall of fame but he was NEVER a great quarterback or feared quarterback.
You sure about that? Playoff Eli had Aaron Rodgers shaking in his shoes in 2016. Doesn't matter who is feared its about who performs. Stay stupid clown. Eli was a great QB to achieve what he did. Not all, but most of his teams were bad. He worked hard to get his passing yds. because his guys dropped so much he made 400 attempts and more. Many QBs arms would fall off throwing that much. Sit down and shut up then you might learn something. You aren't qualified to judge who goes into the HOF don't act like you have a vote.
FAT JAXSON there is no debate for TO. Everyone thinks he's a hofer. Its the guys who actually vote for the HOF that are the problem. I think Ocho is HOF worthy, but his stats arent as great as TO's. He also carries the same negatives that TO does so he doesnt have a chance to make it until TO does
TO and ochocinco belongs in the HOF but the old white men won't allow it you kno how that goes ..they dont like strong black men that dont bend over for them
Don’t gotta be a great qb to get into the HOF. Look at how many qb’s are in the HOF with NEGATIVE records. But somehow a dude that won 2 Super Bowls and beat arguably the greatest dynasty during their 2 decade long reign of terror TWICE in the super bowl and 1 of those years they would have went undefeated had they won that super bowl. Doesn’t belong in the HoF lmao. The ignorance is real
@WayOfREY Have u seen some of the hof qbs that are in?? There's your answer why Eli is getting in. There are few ways to get in as a qb according to history which is be the best of your era, have wins and post season success, be a post season legend, longevity, and etc. Eli checks many of those boxes. Sorry but Eli is getting in and he didnt need the last name to justify his entry. Learn to deal with it and accept Eli's entry in the hof😭😭😂😂😂😂
So, you are just going to ignore 16 years of average possibly below average stats and two benchings? 16 years vs 2 games? Even if you consider both 4 game runs, that still makes up less than 4% of his career. While no one in history would ever get in with what he did through the other 96% plus of his games. Please explain.
Na flacco trash with a great defense....eli claim to fame is beating the pats twice in superbowl and not allowing the pats to go undefeated when they had the undefeated season even though they played um twice that season....
Use the Skip Bayless logic. If you have to think about if a player is a hall of famer, they’re not a hall of famer. Tom Brady? No doubt. Aaron Rodgers? No doubt. Peyton Manning? No doubt. Drew Brees? No doubt. Eli Manning? Uhhhh weeellllll...... not a hall of famer 🤷🏾♂️
You can't be a bad QB to make the Hall of Fame. You need to do something worthy. Two Super Bowl MVPs, beating a 16-0 and 15-1 team (on the road) and having two of your best drives to win both Super Bowls in the final minute gets you there.
@@chatolo1 He's number 6 in passing completions, Number 7 passing yards, number 8 in passing touchdowns and number 13 in 4th quarter comebacks of all time. He did a few things in his career in the NFL.
@@tonyochiha9798 Well after 15 years of being a starter and not missing any games, he should have those numbers, he has had almost no impact in the league after his last superbowl, I just don´t think he is elite but he most defintely deserves to be a HOF.
Kobra Khan he stayed healthy in an era that protects QBs 🤷🏾♂️. Those numbers all time are silly because older QBs from prior eras didn’t have the luxury of defenseless receiver and don’t abuse the QB rules. He will get in the hall but he’s never been elite.
Skip already took that spot, a guy who says dumb sh! Tom brady can't win a superbowl without a top ten or top 5 defense. Eli does it with a 17th and 27th ranked defense. And all of a sudden those same people calling brady the goat, think eli sucks lol. 🤡
Ryan Clark is extremely racist. I don’t think a guy should have his own show when he was defending desean jackson last year while he quoted Hitler. Not a good idea
Ok a few moments in history dont make you hof. A whole career of greatness is what your supposed to get in on. Eli is an average QB. Tell me you would take him over any QB in his time? I would rather have Brady, Peyton, Rivers, Brees, Favre, Pennington, Romo, Smith, Big Ben, Luck, McNabb, Stafford, Newton, Wilson even an old Warner. Almost anyone over Eli.
Difference between jim Plunkett and eli is plunk was always hurt then come in for the playoffs yes he won two, but Eli was an iron man taking plenty punishment.
Stats, longevity, four pro bowls, 2x Superbowl MVP, Beat the most dominate team in NFL history TWICE in the Superbowl, Beat Arguably the GOAT TWICE in the Superbowl, Beat Arguably Greatest coach of all time, all without a #1 WR or a Dominate RB. He's a hall of fame'er.
Someone needs to give Ryan Clark a high five, ASAP. It couldn't be said better. And Paul Finebaum's emotional reaction @3:07 made it all the more golden.
Eli was a product of the Manning qb camp/family business. He was ok and beat the pats(which we're all grateful for/jealous of) but like Ryan said he wasn't feared because he's just not that kind of qb. Even the sb winning seasons they were wild card, 9-6 teams...yeah they played well down the stretch but it wasn't all Eli and alot of it was just Eli playing "just" above average to get em over the top.
Jason Young he was good but when you compare him with brees,Brady or Rodgers he just seems not good enough. He could not attend the playoffs regularly and most of his stats are just empty like when Dak goes for 500 yds but lose in blowout game
He wasn't feared because the media & retired players bashed him because of his last name. But guess what? Sports success isn't based on whether people love you or fear you. Its based on getting a job done. Those who underestimate & mock Eli Manning or any other opponents are poor competitors. Great players prepare for every opponent and don't take any opponent lightly. Clarke blows. He will never make the HOF Polamalu was the fire in the secondary.
@@darrellpierce7108 ,right, but did he change the game? No DC lost sleep because of him. No little kid has ever said l, " I want to be just like Eli" 🤣.. it was cool seeing him beat Brady tho..but that was a fierce pass rush.
there’s only two guys on the panel who played football, both defense, im sure neither of them were shaking before a game on which they faced Eli manning.
Eli was better at his position than both of these mediocre guys. They certainly should have been shaking when facing Eli. What about top 8 all-time in Touchdowns, yards, and completions ? What about top 10 in game winning drives? What about 2nd most playoff road wins of all-time? What about his iron man streak? What about among the best in 4th quarter comebacks? Let me know when you come up with an excuse to explain these facts away?
Ty Wilson he sucks, he’s a pick machine and those all time stats are there just because he played forever. Literally can only throw slant routes and comebacks, I’ll take romo over him
CaribPhin funny how a per play or per game does not make a career. Per play and per game said the Pats in 07 were better than the Giants. How did that turn out?
"Eli showed up in the biggest moments!" Because those are the only two moments of his career. He couldn't get to the playoffs or win a game the rest of his career
Eli did go to the playoffs more than 2 times though. Also are you gonna pretend that he didnt win 6 other playoff games against the best of the best while 5 of those victories were on the road?? Who would you rather have....a qb who is great in the regular season (Romo) or a qb who is very good to great in the post season???
We all know those defenses carried the giants to those two Super Bowl wins but Eli happened to make two incredibly clutch throws when the game seemed like it was in doubt so that will always elevate him at the end of the day but he’s AVERAGE AF. 🤷🏾♂️
Ari Moore why tf do you think he got those two mvps? Off those two clutch plays and clearly you don’t remember that giants defense in 08 or 2011 they held those patriots teams in check both games.
Yeremy Rey first super bowl 19/34 255 yards 2td and a INT. That’s very pedestrian lol. 2nd super bowl 30/40 296 yards 1td. The 2nd time around his completions were higher but for him to complete 30 passes and only have 296 yards is average at best sorry 🤷🏾♂️
Fans who throw shade on Eli don't understand sports, don't understand champions. In both of Mannings 2 super bowl wins, the Giants trailed the New England Patriots with ONLY 2 minutes to go in the game and took possession of the ball on their own 20 yard line. IT WAS THE CLASSIC BIG GAME SITUATION. IT WAS THE BIG MOMENT WHICH ELEVATES GOOD PLAYERS TO GREAT. In both games, Manning lead the Giants down the field for the game winning touchdown, completing passes with impossible yardage to go on 4th down. Jimmy Garappolo was in the same situation against the Kansas City Chiefs in their super bowl matchup and failed to complete the passes. Wake up Eli haters.
I found it interesting that Paul Fineman saw fit during this exchange to literally place his hands over his ears, shutting down from even attempting to absorb incoming narrative, while Ryan Clark was presenting his case for his perspective. Yep.
Name the number of qbs with 2 Super Bowls that’s why he’s in plane and simple. 2 rings playing quarterback that’s it may not be right but it’s true and you can’t name many with 2
WHo ever got anything for being the best division Qb -haha. The only person on your list to win a SB was the backup. There have been thousands of people play QB but only a handful have 2 superbowl wins my friend.
Eli will be a HOF quarterback, but I don't think he was great. He's going to get in on the strength of his last name and 2 great throws to help win 2 superbowls. To be honest his defense should get more credit.
Eli Manning is a 2x Superbowl champion and his teams actually beat the Patriots while Ryan Clark and the Steelers were destroyed in 2 championship games.
Ryan Clark did get his first interception against Eli Manning ... in a game that the Giants won 36 - 0. Clark played Eli 7 more times in his career and never got another interception off of Eli. As a matter of fact Clark's teams only won 3 games out of those 8 but hey, congrats on that one interception you got that time.
Ryan Clark was more of a strong safety who supported the run and was physical. Interceptions weren't his specialty. In his 12 seasons he had 16 total. Thats a little above 1 a year and Eli was that one and his first. So, I don't understand your comment.
@@jasonmartin7798 my point is that while he did get his first interception off of Eli, he's using that single moment as of it proves his point that Eli wasn't that good even though it was a completely insignificant moment that didn't affect the outcome of the game. The Giants dominated that game and Eli had a winning record against Clark throughout his career. He's trying to say that he has some kind of special objective insight on Eli because he played against him but he's conveniently leaving out the fact that Eli and the Giants played pretty well against his teams.
He was top 5 in 2011. He broke unitas record for most tds in the 4th quarter. He also had six 4th quarter comebacks that season as well. He also carried a 29th ranked defense and 32nd ranked rushing offense to the playoffs.
BLITZ D pats fan. We’ll give Brady credit for being who he is but Brady Stan’s will never look at another QB and give them credit. It’s so exciting knowing within the next few years he will be gone and they will slowly descend into a shitshow
That wasn't a catch. His foot wasn't down in time. Missed call. Before the miracle catch the refs should have blown the play dead because Eli was sacked. It was better for the league that BB lost to his former Giants.
Also led the league in INTs 3 times...find that list and tell me who's on it? Beating Brady 2 times will do something for you but his career is straight up mediocre.
If you're a starting QB for 16 years you should be in the top 10 in passing yards and TDs. Eli will get into the Hall based on two playoff runs and longevity. The majority his career was unremarkable.
Why can't people be happy for people's success. The giants are not surrounded by hall of famers. He did the very best he could with the tools he had. He is a person that can see the play as it is happening and get it to the best possible outcome for each play Besides what he has is integrity doing the right thing when nobody is watching.
It’s about changing the game. Eli has not changed the game. He should not be a HOF. QBs that cannot effect the game without a game plan, should not be a HOF. Super bowls should not be a criteria that automatically get you in. Eli did not beat the patriots the Giants defense dude.
Eli notable stats * 5/16 seasons with 10-12 wins * 4 One and dones in the postseason * 3 years lead the lead in INTs * 3 Division titles * 1 since 2008 * Most notably his 2 Super Bowl runs his defence on average gave up 16.25 in 2007 and 14 in 2011 PPG Also, no one give me that BS that he's 7th all time in passing yards, Joe Montana is 19th All-time and is going to be surpassed by Mattew Stafford this year..... completely different eras!! Good job Eli you had an average career at best but rode 2 elite Ds to the super bowl so you'll go to the HOF
The thing I'll always respect with Eli is.... he played great in the biggest game, 2 superbowl MVPs he handled pressure a whole lot better than most people do.
The hall of Fame isn't solely for the legendary players, that's why they have tiers. You don't have to be Tom Brady to be a hall of famer. Eli is a hall of famer but a late ballot hall of famer. Dudes top 10/15 in every QB category, has two rings, and two super bowl MVPs. The fact that we're even having this conversation is laughable
Manning won two super bowls but he is not a hall of famer. He is a 500 quarterback and that’s not hall of fame to me. The defense won both those Super Bowls
"In 2011, Eli Manning led the team on seven fourth-quarter comebacks and eight game-winning drives, making him the NFL all-time leader for both in a single season (tied with Peyton Manning in 2009 for the former, and with Jake Delhomme in 2003 for the latter)." He also has the NFL record for post season completions in a playoff run.
Facts ESPN should take this off the feed and take the fans vote and also let us comment on the nonsense Paul tried to anoint this man on moments it's the hof body of work u gonna show 3 replays of eli. But covering your ears and act like eli was really that great quit. Dont look at his 2 chips his career was garbage sorry hof top 6 at your position to get in at best. And that's being generous...
Mr. Phister he played with no WR, No line, RB, TE for 95 percent of his Career! Yet they won 2 sb which he was the mvp of both! People are debating he is a hall of Famer!
@@jamaalhorton2343 95%? You must not be a Giant's fan at all....now way. He had Brandon Jacobs, Ahmad Bradshaw, and Tiki Barber at running back. For TE, he had perennial probowler Jeremy Shockey. For receivers he had Victor Cruz, Amani Toomer, Plaxico Burress, Sterling Shepard, and Odell Beckham. His line did suck for many of those years.
What's great is Eli is sittin at the house, laughin, while he polishes his pair of SB rings, countin all the money he made while just bein "a very good qb" ✌💙🐔
He wasnt a good qb with 2 superbowl rings, I will take it as Giants fan. The same amount as Elway and his brother. More than jim Kelly and marino, will take it all day
Is Eli deserving of the Hall of Fame? Well, all I can say is on his way to his two Super Bowl rings, Eli out Romoed Romo, our Favred Favre, out Rogered Rogers and out Bradied Brady twice.
This is an interesting discussion. Eli and Big Ben both have about the same number of yards and TDs, but Eli has 50 more INTs and is not as accurate. However, Big Ben routinely had a top defense in the NFL up until about 2011, and then when his passing stats took off in 2013, this coincided with Antonio Brown going on his 6-season tear of 1200-yard, 100-reception seasons. I would give the edge to Big Ben, as he led the league in passing yards twice, whereas Eli led the league in interceptions three times. Also, Big Ben played fewer games than Eli due to injuries and got his yards and TDs in fewer games, whereas Eli never missed a start due to injury.
Eli manning didn't have blocking on the offensive line for 8 years. He still delivered 2 Super bowls in the same decade. The Giants organization didn't protect Eli. Like the Patriots invested to protect Tom Brady!!! Of course Eli deserves to be in the HOF.
"I gave context that you couldn't give, cus you didn't play him" Bodied lol
Linn Underwood 😂😂 no 🧢
Straight up. Im glad when they players bring "analyst" back to reality. They swear they know more about a situation than the players who played IN the situation.
@@MrAfriKa I mean sometimes they are right.... ahem Paul Pierce
@@MrAfriKa former players think they're smarter than they are. This trend of having so many former athletes as analysts has gone too far. Same with all the women they have on these shows.
Only half of the former athletes can even speak articulately. Not to mention all the blows they took to the head during their careers.
@@GJLCreativeStudios Translation; We need more old white men? There's already 3 on the panel buddy
You lost me!
I wasn’t tryna find you
- best response ever 😂
“Some ppl” always become lost when someone else’s opinion differs from theirs. And the difference between them and Ryan Clark is he’s played the game.
Preach 🙏🏾
@@objectiveone1478
Your opinion is irrelevant. You never played the game.
Stay quiet and zip your lips. Good boy.
I loved him as a Steeler. Him and Troy made for one of the best safety combos for years.
Pat wrong! I have... internet warrior!
Eli is that kid in school that gets a C every test but gets an A+ in the finals.
Lmaooo 😂😂😂😂
Yeah, but that's what matters most.
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😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Yep 🤣😂🤣😂🤣
As a Giants fan that was great! 🤣
You can have perfect attendance at school and still be a C average student
Jeremy Rice 💯😂😂
Yeah but in football,that’s kinda different
BINGO
@@Ab-iz9uv but I was talking about the impact of being available while being unreliable.... which ties into both football and school.... which ends up being the same exact thing....
Thank you.
If there was a reward for best average player, Eli would have the unanimous vote.
He's below average
Bruh even though he be average I’ve appreciate what he’s done
They need a Hall of Average for Eli
Average QB's dont throw for 56000 yards and 362 TD's
Daniel Kelegian he’s average
Side bar :Remember when Ryan Clark tried to Warn us about Ab?💀
TheLegendOfTheEast and no one listened cuz we thought he was talking smack 😭
@@bornfly2353 not me🙋♀️🙋♀️red flags since 2016
Ryan Clark wanted to D up with him 😂😂
YUP
@@kwahliijohnson4874 ..... PAUSE
Nothing wrong here. He had his moments but hes a .500 QB.
W 2 rings and was super bowl MVP in both games against the Pats and Tom Brady... You are leaving out the most important part
@@MikeHunt-kc2bu In his 2nd Super Bowl he beat a defense that gave up the most yards in the NFL that season.
@@peterkay8997 but he also ruined the Patriots attempt at a perfect season
he won 2 Superbowls the end u lose
@@peterkay8997 how many does the great Aaron Rogers have ?
I love the selective memory - Ryan Clark likes to talk about his one pick against Eli during Eli's first full season as a starter, but neglects to mention the 2014 come-from-behind Giant win when Eli torched Clark's secondary with 3 TDs, no interceptions and a 118 QB rating. Or the 2014 Giants win when he threw for 4 touchdowns and 300 yards, making Clark look absolutely silly. Then, there was the 2008 game against Clark's Steeler team with its #1-ranked defense -- when Eli led the Giants to two 4th quarter scores and another come-from-behind win. Ryan Clark asks "When has a defense ever had to plan to stop Eli Manning?" All the time - just ask Bill Belichick. Maybe Clark should have tried it.
Facts.
Eli had some great games and deserves to be in the HOF. He freakin' beat Brady and Belichick twice albeit w/ a very good Giant's defense. But no one would consider him a top 20 QB in the HOF.
@@vicfletcher8919Understood. My point is that they probably SHOULD have worried about him. Anyway, his post-season success combined with his career productivity push him into the HOF.
@@vicfletcher8919 Which greats did you have in mind? I agree that without those Super Bowls, Eli's not a Hall of Famer. He was never among the top 5 QBs in the league when he played. And sure, he had some quality receivers -- Burress, Nicks, Cruz etc. but one of the amazing things about Eli, I think, is that played his entire career without any HOF teammates on offense. (Unless Odell Beckham makes it in)
Clarke also didn't mention getting trucked by Tim Tebow.
Ryan Clark need to do this everyday he gin get paid a lot more
KodiBrown agreed, this was actually great to watch
Ryan clark is acting like Connor mcgregor....is that need of attention? Haha
Pedro Pedrella he’s passionate you simpleton
@@T_M_E_8 passionate is one thing
But "connor mcgregoring" is other....
Nothing wrong about "mcgregoring"
I even like connor
But being passionate is otheeeer thing.
Pedro Pedrella no he’s not. The dude cares about football and is saying the truth about Eli. He isn’t throwing insults or saying he’s better than everyone else. He’s being passionate
Didn't know Ryan Clark can be this animated, that was Stephen A esque, totally funny lol
Marc Delmendo the fact that he wasn’t calm like he always is speaks to the garbage he was having to listen to 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Way better than Stephen A
More like Eddie Murphy.
Except he actually had something significant to say as oppose to the trash Stephen A spits out.
I'm confused?!?...
Eli Manning is the most hit-or-miss QB ever. In any given game he was either great and clutch or absolute trash
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This is true and we all know including those guys, that he’s had wayyy more trash games than clutch, otherwise they would have been winning! LOL
Watch a Matt Ryan game 😂
So he is a Fitzception but with better luck or a reverse Alex Smith
@Kris Wit it yeah um no
Eli Manning played in 210 consecutive starts as an NFL QB. Eli Manning and the Giants beat the Patriots twice in the Super Bowl. Both came in the middle of the Patriot dynasty. Eli Manning is going to Canton wearing a gold jacket. Some talk the talk... Eli Manning walked the walk.
Facts. Man I still remember the shoulder shrug that Eli did as he walked out onto the field in his past series. Ya know what happened next. HE WON THE SUPER BOWL.... Enough said. By the way. He won another super bowl after that.
Flacco is going to HOF too he had best playoffs ever
lmao besides the rings what eli do😂he average at best but no HOF but he’ll get in jus cs he beat brady twice and he’s Peyton’s brother
@@CaF614 you say that like that's not a big thing. Brady is called the greatest QB of all time and Eli beat him twice when it mattered most. That's not a small thing.
@@NCMonefaith lol so nick foles is a HOF😂cmon man eli led the league in picks 3x gtf outta here
"If your are in the right place, Eli Manning will hit you in the face mask with a ball at some time, you just gotta catch it!" 😂😂
Shoot. Ryan Clark is right. He convinced me hilariously.
Sorry we let dudes get in Hof for getting no rings ? He won 2 and was a big reason why they won those 2 .. put him in hof because he beat Brady twice. Back to back .
@@gypsygypsy7185
Sorry those stout defenses are the reason why. Both games the 35+ppg Patriots were held below 20pts. Eli is the definition of mediocre (116-116). He's a HOFer for those 2 SB wins, but most importantly, 90% of the reason is because he's a Manning.
BTW are you somehow implying Eli is better than Dan Marino or Jim Kelly, you know they are HOFers with no rings
Eli has had 4th a comebacks including at least one in two of his super Bowl wins but okay.
christopher weise Eli is a hall of famer, put some respect on his name
iam the goat killer. who is ryan? who is that?
"i feel about eli how eli face looks most of the time when he plays. indifferent." lol
right out the gate ;D
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Flaco will be traded HOF next step 4 him.
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Homie 🤣🤣🤣
Having the last name "Manning" carries it's own weight.
Yep.
"Good old boy system"
So, everyone with the last name of Manning should be in the HoF. Good analogy here. Yes, I'm laughing at you.
@@tomknapp6194 , no foo.on the contrary, jus because his name IS Manning he will most likely get in..that's what my comment referred to, the name itself has pull.
@@allanhernandez5556 That assumption invalidates the HoF qualifications. Every candidate should be the best of his generation and Eli is clearly not.
@@tomknapp6194 ,totally agree. Which is why eli most likely getting in is BS. The committee catapulting these players in are becoming a joke. There will be two manning's in by the time eli gets looked at, they'll call it pedigree and slot him in over a much more deserving player.
2 former players think he’s mediocre and 2 reporters think he’s great I wonder who I should listen too...
Even his stats think hes mediocre, oh that's right numbers don't lie or think. They just say he was mediocre
Tetrahedron IX guess top 10 in yards and TDs is mediocre.
No days off yep
Well considering Ryan Clark was a mediocre safety, and the other guy I don’t even know who that is at first glance. Eli was better at his position than Ryan Clark ever was.
But don’t listen to anyone look at the facts. Of course we know the Super Bowls, and the Super Bowl mvps. What about top 8 all-time in Touchdowns, yards, and completions ? What about top 10 in game winning drives? What about 2nd most playoff road wins of all-time? What about his iron man streak? What about among the best in 4th quarter comebacks? Let me know when you come up with an excuse to explain this facts away?
Are the two former players going to Hof? Mediocre got him 2 super bowl rings and a long career.
Ryan Clark: "I'm not gonna sit here and knock Eli"
Ryan Clark 5 seconds later proceeds to mock Eli.
i can mock him too, but first I need to know who he is?
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Knock or mock bud? By the way, he did neither.
@@TheGuitarifier both
ELI, WAS 500 OVERALL. FACTS! THAT'S NOT MOCKING... ITS THE TRUTH.
Ryan stopped having it 8 seconds in the vid 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Try watching the Giants vs 49ers in the 2011-12 championship game to go to the Super Bowl. Eli was outstanding in that game. How many 4th quarter comeback wins late in the 4th quarter did he have in his career. The guy was clutch. If Namath is in, Eli is certainly in!
Ok, this is what a sports show should be like... wildly entertaining haha
So . True
Exactly
Can’t always be like that lol
i gave context that you can't hear cuz you ain't play him, barred that man's life away...lol
"aint play him"
exactly why former players dont need to be on the air pretending they're intelligent.
@@GJLCreativeStudios so ^correct" English denotes intelligence guess you never heard warren Buffett talk, nice try though
@@Klouneworks but he's right it's really no debate, he's got two rings but he still was a below ave qb
@@Klouneworks it's funny how "authority" matters conditionally....smh...I get it u win
@@GJLCreativeStudios u sound unintelligent jus by saying tht I guess u don't realize how complex NFL plays and understanding formations really is and then ur not factoring in tht most NFL players did 3 years of college or has a degree n being a college athlete is far from easy
It's funny when the journalist forget why the athlete is at the table too....he knows more than you Dan!🤣🤣😭
Paul Mann just because you played the sport doesn’t make you a genius or expert. He wasn’t wrong though, Eli had a good career. Definitely not a HOF QB though
So Ryan Hollins know more then anybody
King Phantom do you know the meaning of context? Facing off against Eli yes Ryan Clark knows more than anybody at the table. Don’t use the comment as a blanket statement
@@twizzy6760 then he should've said that his whole comment had flaws
King Phantom it’s called reading between the lines. Not everything has to be spelled out
The pass he threw to Manningham up the side line late was a defining moment. Perfect pass no quarterback could have thrown it better. Plus he's a manning that played in New York. Sports is about story lines. Defining moments. He played big in the games biggest game twice.
He went crazy that whole playoffs!
Eli Manning play Big in super bowl 42 scoring 17 points the New York Giants defense held the number one scoring offense to 14 points I think the defense was more important
Eli Manning beat the 31st ranked defense in super bowl 46 congratulations.
Eli Manning's not the first quarterback to play in New York. Talk about showing up big in the biggest game Julian Edelman three super bowl wins one MVP. Help the patriots to make 7 of 8 straight AFC championships. Julian Edelman missed 2017 season with a torn ACL. Was Tom Brady's number one wide receiver for 8 years A 7th round college quarterback. You cannot tell the history of the New England Patriots without Julian Edelman. I don't care what is regular season numbers were just like everyone doesn't care about Eli Manning regular seasons 117-117 leading the league in interceptions three times. Eli Manning can go into the Hall of Fame because of the playoffs. Julian Edelman needs to go into the Hall of Fame for his playoffs. Second most catches and second most yards in the playoffs.
@@Dennis-nm1jm For the regular season, yes. In the postseason, their average points per game would have been the best in the league.
Between 2007 and 2011, the Giants defense allowed an average of 15.1 points/game, no more than 20, and a passer rating of 74.
And Eli still barely managed to win 5/8 games. 2 went to overtime in which he was an absolute non factor, but given credit for both game winning drives.
Care to go any further? The correct answer is, "No." because I have fact that will destroy any Eli fan.
Eli Manning will get into the Hall of Fame at some point bc of his last name, his durability and beating the pats twice in the Superbowl when they were massive under dogs.
Last name and getting lucky because his defense kept him in The game doez not deserve HOF sorry. !
@@AF-pg6mo I think you don't understand, he beat Brady twice. In the super bowl, in his prime as well. Thtat's not HOF worthy??
Nathan_ Drake123 he just saying it was luck
they weren't massive underdogs in the 2011 SB
If his last name wasn't Manning and if he didn't play in NY - he would hardly be considered.
He NEVER, not once, led the NFL in a single positive passer category.
16 seasons and only won a playoff game in two seasons.
All-time leader in multiple turnover games.
Paul need to stick to college football lol Ryan bodyed him like when Max bodied Ryan Hollins
Bacons Strip Lol tony romo isn’t the best commentator in football, he was getting a lot of criticism for his poor commentating before the AFC Championship. Then when he started predicting plays ppl were okay with him...
@@laynebrock He was predicting plays way before then, and a lot of people liked him. He was absolutely a hit with the fans a while ago. Not to mention people love his jokes, and his attitude towards the game. I'm not saying he's unanimously the most most popular ever, but you need to come back to reality if this is how you remember it.
@@kaderose1082 Personally I dislike Romo's commentary but I agree that he did have lots of fan support. I disliked the commentary because it shows me how high of a football IQ he has but I hate it cause it shows me he lacked the athleticism to do the things he sees as a QB.
@@teamrcket5103 My guy, if you get a top down perspective on the play field it's a lot easier to tell what's gonna happen. Especially when you've had to figure it out from behind a 6'4 center. Romo was always injured too, so it wasnt a lack of athleticism. Bein a good QB is difficult
Shneeky Tiki well every QBs Center is big so that’s irrelevant, and yes being a good QB is difficult for more reasons than just playing through injuries and the talent of your team, he just wasn’t great imo but I could care less about the support he gets from fans, doesn’t affect me
The fact that you can hear everyone offset laughing makes this so much funnier
When the analytic dude and the player goes wrong 😂
"I'm giving content that you can't give because you didn't play him" thanks Ryan Clark. Too many "analysis" not enough people who played the game and at a high level at that
@J Cole he played
I don’t want to hear anything concerning football from Paul finebaum
Just because you play don't make you qualified to try to define another man's career. Why does it bother him so much, people get tirggered over the silliest stuff. Let that man live his life, stop being so negative all the time, it's really ok to just not have anything to say about someone if you don't have anything positive to contribute.
@bryan joiner never caused the Steelers tomlose a game played the part he had to pay well and was part of two SB wins polamaula ran free and Ryan had to shut idlt down at the sfatey position and he did his job good
@bryan joiner I never overated him said he was a solid safety who did his job the league has alot of players like that he was a part of the reason we won those 2 and nondoubt
RYAN CLARKE, NEW RESPECT. HIS BEST ANALYSIS YET!
Ignorant clown not in hall of fame Eli will be haha loser
DeZ Nutz it’s ok if you’re an eli Manning fan. claim your space bro
eoe123321 salty because it’s true? Two things can be true....he will get in the HOF based off 2 playoff runs in 2 years of a 16 year career but he was never “elite”
DeZ Nutz 90% of the voters aren’t in the HOF so what’s your point?
Do they talk trash about Eli? No cause they’re putting him in. Is Clark talking trash yea lol. Stupid
Eli has made $252 Million as A QB.
#1 all time in NFL. He should be in the hall of fame for that😂😂
Nah he should go straight to jail for theft
Nope Aaron Rodgers is set to top that with $313, 144, 529, Matt Ryan $318, 707, 925 and Big Ben is set to make $272, 286, 864. Eli's earning won't make the Hall of Fame Stafford is closing in too. Aaron Rodger is the richest and its not even close when his endorsement money is added to the mix.
To date, Manning earned more than anyone else in NFL history. I do not feel sorry for the guy. He's stuck around too long. He was good in his prime but not great. Those 2 SB wins gets him in the HOF.
@@anthonylogiudice9215 When I saw that Eli was #1 couldn't believe it. I don't feel sorry for him.
@@ctruth6185 set up until they pass him shut up
People forget about what any sport is all about: being a champion and being a fundamental part of it. Eli did that, twice. Against the greatest team ever, greatest player ever, and greatest coach ever. TWICE. HOF and not even a question.
FACTS!
You actually do have to have personal accolades and statistics which he doesn't have. Not a must two Superbowls.. he was never considered elite or a top 3 QB ever in his time.. not once.. no all pros. 4 pro bowls.. stop it
Ryan Clark channeled his inner Stephen A....and bodied half the set!!! Lolololol!!!
😂😂He told the cold hearted truth that the media didn’t want to know
What truth is that?? That Clark isnt a hall of famer and Eli should?? Yea i agree with that truth😭😭😂😂
Neither should be in the HOF Eli will get in because of his name and the fact people like him as a person
@@ibrahimaamer267 False. His name actually hurts him. He's getting in because he's a post season legend. Without his 2 legendary post season runs....he doesn't get in.
Will Smooth lmao your a post season legend for having a great defense and making 2 nice passes
The problem is that there are salty Eli supporters who want the rest of the logical world to proclaim and agree that he is on the same ELITE level as most of the other QBs in the HOF, and that is just absurd. Nick Foles has a superbowl win and mvp against Brady and the Pats ..... anyone even mentioning any possibility of him getting a mention of HOF??? Why? Because he's a backup QB who had a great moment. Eli's greatest achievement is his longevity .... and along with 2 great moments ... he'll get a HOF nod.
Ain't nobody salty but you Pat fans
Eli’s top 10 in passing yards and touchdowns, nick foles isn’t even top 100.
He took 2 rings from your franchise and ruined your perfect season 😂😂😂 you should be the LAST person saying anything about eli
Eli is too ten in Tds and Yards so you dont know what you're talking about. Eli manning has also broken all of his franchise records. A franchise that dates back to the 30s so Eli definitely is hall of fame material.
@@Dominican-cx8ny I mean starting for 15 odd seasons in the golden age of passing will do that for a QB statistically, and the franchise history thing doesn't mean much for the same reason. They didn't throw the ball regularly until the 1960s and even 1970s depending on the team you look at. I mean Tony Romo is number 1 in Dallas franchise history for every passing statistic, but he's certainly not Staubach or Aikman. Manning will be a HOFer, just not for being an elite QB; longevity and leading a team that beat Brady twice in his prime are his claims to fame. And that's perfectly fine.
That commentary by Ryan was one of the most realist I've ever heard!
If Eli Manning is a hall of famer, then Phil Simms deserves to be in it too.
18-1 is all that needs to be said
What about Jim Plunkett? 2x SB Champ and won a SB MVP.
@@bradleyhenry2411 If you love garbage stats by all means.
, put eli in the hall of very good,,, his career is comperable to phill sims,, played a long time , had a handful of above average years won 2 titles, but was NEVER elite, thats a historical fact , damm ,,,,,the hall of fame should be reserved for those who dominated/ trancended their position for their era, payton did ,, eli did not!!!!!
Every QB who has won two Super Bowls should be in the Hall of Fame. It’s a museum about the story of football, not a statistical category.
Ryan Clark is 1,000% correct! Eli had great moments that will get him into the hall of fame but he was NEVER a great quarterback or feared quarterback.
Hof is completely & utterlly ridiculous 4 eli mannning
Nucky Mancini let me know when your favorite qb wins 2 Super Bowls being the mvp twice, oh yeah remember who he played too. Definitely hall of fame
but WHO is he? what has he done? NOTHING. iam the back to back goat killer
elite manning_2-0 you the goat bro
You sure about that? Playoff Eli had Aaron Rodgers shaking in his shoes in 2016. Doesn't matter who is feared its about who performs. Stay stupid clown. Eli was a great QB to achieve what he did. Not all, but most of his teams were bad. He worked hard to get his passing yds. because his guys dropped so much he made 400 attempts and more. Many QBs arms would fall off throwing that much. Sit down and shut up then you might learn something. You aren't qualified to judge who goes into the HOF don't act like you have a vote.
He just gets in but we gotta debate for TO and Ochocinco?? The fuhhh?
FAT JAXSON there is no debate for TO. Everyone thinks he's a hofer. Its the guys who actually vote for the HOF that are the problem. I think Ocho is HOF worthy, but his stats arent as great as TO's. He also carries the same negatives that TO does so he doesnt have a chance to make it until TO does
I thought TO was in the hall of fame
TO and Ochocinco weren't two time Superbowl MVPs against the Patriots dynasty
TO and ochocinco belongs in the HOF but the old white men won't allow it you kno how that goes ..they dont like strong black men that dont bend over for them
I would rather see both in over Eli
I love Ryan Clark, I think he should have his own show.
maybe on the Black Panther's network. He angry af all the time and makes excuses for every ignant player
I agree. He's like a young Steven A
@@empathyismoney Right On Brother!!!
How many Super Bowls MVPs does Clark have?
@@slimpaco3561 He has none, this is not about his ability to play football, he was a decent player.
Ryan Clark wasn’t all that of a player himself, he was solid like he should’ve been with the talent that played around him
Ryan Clark Sounded like Chris rock and Eddie Murphy mixed lol 😂
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I’ll never let anyone convince me Eli Manning is a great QB
That's fine but Eli was a very good qb who getting into the HoF. I rather have Eli's career than 98 % of the qbs in his era.
Don’t gotta be a great qb to get into the HOF. Look at how many qb’s are in the HOF with NEGATIVE records. But somehow a dude that won 2 Super Bowls and beat arguably the greatest dynasty during their 2 decade long reign of terror TWICE in the super bowl and 1 of those years they would have went undefeated had they won that super bowl. Doesn’t belong in the HoF lmao. The ignorance is real
@@nicholasflores679 Exactly. The ignorance and Eli hate is strong out there.
@WayOfREY Have u seen some of the hof qbs that are in?? There's your answer why Eli is getting in. There are few ways to get in as a qb according to history which is be the best of your era, have wins and post season success, be a post season legend, longevity, and etc. Eli checks many of those boxes. Sorry but Eli is getting in and he didnt need the last name to justify his entry. Learn to deal with it and accept Eli's entry in the hof😭😭😂😂😂😂
@@nicholasflores679 which qbs are sub-.500 in the hof?
Ryan is absolutely correct. Not one team or fan ever said " If we can stop Eli...."
And that would prove to be their downfall
Can’t help that they are stupid.
This is why Ryan Clark is EVERYONE'S FAVORITE!!!
Paul Finebaums ears look like the doors on a 76 buick.
😂😂🤣🤣🤣... you ain't right for that
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Kyle and Kurt Busch have him beat..😂🤣
Bro I died when he covered his ears cause I know he was hearin everything
@@HermDCrypt Hahaha! He got that Bose ambient sound feature built in!
The first 30-40 seconds and the body language of Ryan Clarke tells you all you need to know about this segment 🤣🤣🤣
Ryan Clark looking and sounding like Reggie from Ballers.
H C Ryan Clark was an overrated safety. Trash to be exact. And even a worse analyst
Sounds like Eddie Murphy
Looks like Ray j
@@MRoss623 so he seems best to rate Eli, they are both vastly overrated. They can recognize each other
Marcus Rosselli cap
Statistically... "No".
But in my opinion, his 2 Superbowl wins alone makes him a "Shoe In".
He's top 10 in the major passing statistics!
"shoo in"
Against the GOAT
So, you are just going to ignore 16 years of average possibly below average stats and two benchings? 16 years vs 2 games? Even if you consider both 4 game runs, that still makes up less than 4% of his career. While no one in history would ever get in with what he did through the other 96% plus of his games. Please explain.
If Eli gets in the HOF Jim Plunkett should sue! 😆
I can agree I suppose. I brought up Plunkett because he won 2 SBs just like Big Ben and Eli. But Flacco was playoff tough.
Na flacco trash with a great defense....eli claim to fame is beating the pats twice in superbowl and not allowing the pats to go undefeated when they had the undefeated season even though they played um twice that season....
How is Jim plunket not in HOF he's got 3Rings
james brewer
Uh?
Flacco won 2 SBs as well.
Kevin Scott no? flacco has one ring lol
Use the Skip Bayless logic. If you have to think about if a player is a hall of famer, they’re not a hall of famer. Tom Brady? No doubt. Aaron Rodgers? No doubt. Peyton Manning? No doubt. Drew Brees? No doubt. Eli Manning? Uhhhh weeellllll...... not a hall of famer 🤷🏾♂️
100%. The man had 2 good playoff runs. Let's not forget his defensive line was otherworldly at that time
It’s crazy cause I was saying this to my coworkers a year ago
Very true.
Mr Bojangles yea he’s straight but not great.
Yeahhh no, dont have to think about it. Eli gets in without question.
Two things can be true. Eli will be a hall of famer due to his accomplishments but he's not a good QB.
You can't be a bad QB to make the Hall of Fame. You need to do something worthy. Two Super Bowl MVPs, beating a 16-0 and 15-1 team (on the road) and having two of your best drives to win both Super Bowls in the final minute gets you there.
@@orangescoop13 Those are two seasons, what did he do that outstanding after that in his 15 year carrer? I stil think he should be in the HOF though.
@@chatolo1 He's number 6 in passing completions, Number 7 passing yards, number 8 in passing touchdowns and number 13 in 4th quarter comebacks of all time. He did a few things in his career in the NFL.
@@tonyochiha9798 Well after 15 years of being a starter and not missing any games, he should have those numbers, he has had almost no impact in the league after his last superbowl, I just don´t think he is elite but he most defintely deserves to be a HOF.
Kobra Khan he stayed healthy in an era that protects QBs 🤷🏾♂️. Those numbers all time are silly because older QBs from prior eras didn’t have the luxury of defenseless receiver and don’t abuse the QB rules. He will get in the hall but he’s never been elite.
Ryan Clark needs to have his own talk show.
Skip already took that spot, a guy who says dumb sh! Tom brady can't win a superbowl without a top ten or top 5 defense. Eli does it with a 17th and 27th ranked defense. And all of a sudden those same people calling brady the goat, think eli sucks lol. 🤡
Ryan Clark is extremely racist.
I don’t think a guy should have his own show when he was defending desean jackson last year while he quoted Hitler. Not a good idea
An hour of bashing QBs everyday would get boring really fast.
@@ctruth6185 not the ones that deserve it
He has a podcast .... and a GREAT one, at that.
You can guarantee a football is coming for your face mask -Ryan Clark
I thought that was hilarious. Because the next one was probably a touchdown with all those years he spent with Washington.
Ryan Clark not only makes sense, now the clapbacks are *LETHAL*
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This dude talking about his first interception on Eli Manning meanwhile his team lost 35-0 that game. Scrub
LOL!!
If the Washington QB had a similar level of talent at his position to Ryan Clark, they'd have won
Ryan started off calm... Them deep thought of HOF'er Eli Manning triggered him.
Thank you for all you’ve done Eli...espn won’t give you your props but you’ve had some of the clutchest moments ever in the NFL. Respect to #10
They have but you can't sit here and say that Eli was actually good lol
Ok a few moments in history dont make you hof. A whole career of greatness is what your supposed to get in on. Eli is an average QB. Tell me you would take him over any QB in his time? I would rather have Brady, Peyton, Rivers, Brees, Favre, Pennington, Romo, Smith, Big Ben, Luck, McNabb, Stafford, Newton, Wilson even an old Warner. Almost anyone over Eli.
Daniel Mackey all I can do is laugh at your reply...when you say Alex smith and Matt stafford is better you just sounds like a hater
@@bigo8765 If the big game is on the line I'd take Eli over Rodgers & Brees.
I thought he was Kevin Hart when he start talking in high-pitched voice
Difference between jim Plunkett and eli is plunk was always hurt then come in for the playoffs yes he won two, but Eli was an iron man taking plenty punishment.
Imagine if Eli had retired 3 years ago. Much better record and no questions about his ability.
He's just too durable.
Stats, longevity, four pro bowls, 2x Superbowl MVP, Beat the most dominate team in NFL history TWICE in the Superbowl, Beat Arguably the GOAT TWICE in the Superbowl, Beat Arguably Greatest coach of all time, all without a #1 WR or a Dominate RB. He's a hall of fame'er.
No lies were detected here 🤜🏽🤛🏻
Someone needs to give Ryan Clark a high five, ASAP. It couldn't be said better. And Paul Finebaum's emotional reaction @3:07 made it all the more golden.
Eli was a product of the Manning qb camp/family business. He was ok and beat the pats(which we're all grateful for/jealous of) but like Ryan said he wasn't feared because he's just not that kind of qb. Even the sb winning seasons they were wild card, 9-6 teams...yeah they played well down the stretch but it wasn't all Eli and alot of it was just Eli playing "just" above average to get em over the top.
Jason Young he was good but when you compare him with brees,Brady or Rodgers he just seems not good enough. He could not attend the playoffs regularly and most of his stats are just empty like when Dak goes for 500 yds but lose in blowout game
He wasn't feared because the media & retired players bashed him because of his last name. But guess what? Sports success isn't based on whether people love you or fear you. Its based on getting a job done. Those who underestimate & mock Eli Manning or any other opponents are poor competitors. Great players prepare for every opponent and don't take any opponent lightly. Clarke blows. He will never make the HOF Polamalu was the fire in the secondary.
Ryan Clark will always be my guy 😂😂😂 Steeler for life
When you think of the QBs of the 2000s and and 2010s you think of Brady, Payton,Brees, Wilson, Rodgers, and Big Ben. Not no Eli.🤣
ELI MANNING = DON KNOTTS
U kind of gotta think of eli tho only bc of the bowls against the pats other than that naw id rather have warner as a starter than him
@@darrellpierce7108 ,right, but did he change the game? No DC lost sleep because of him. No little kid has ever said l, " I want to be just like Eli" 🤣.. it was cool seeing him beat Brady tho..but that was a fierce pass rush.
Rivers and Romo should be on that list
@@supersexysega what list??🧐
there’s only two guys on the panel who played football, both defense, im sure neither of them were shaking before a game on which they faced Eli manning.
Eli was better at his position than both of these mediocre guys. They certainly should have been shaking when facing Eli.
What about top 8 all-time in Touchdowns, yards, and completions ? What about top 10 in game winning drives? What about 2nd most playoff road wins of all-time? What about his iron man streak? What about among the best in 4th quarter comebacks? Let me know when you come up with an excuse to explain these facts away?
@@357twilson When you play in 1 million games, you rack up numbers. On a per play or per game basis, he's average at best.
Ty Wilson he sucks, he’s a pick machine and those all time stats are there just because he played forever. Literally can only throw slant routes and comebacks, I’ll take romo over him
splashbros30&11 Favre, Marino, Peyton all have more picks than him. Eli only has 6 more picks than Brees.
CaribPhin funny how a per play or per game does not make a career. Per play and per game said the Pats in 07 were better than the Giants. How did that turn out?
"Eli showed up in the biggest moments!" Because those are the only two moments of his career. He couldn't get to the playoffs or win a game the rest of his career
MalikEKC And he could have one more if his receivers hadn’t let him down during multiple seasons.
Eli did go to the playoffs more than 2 times though. Also are you gonna pretend that he didnt win 6 other playoff games against the best of the best while 5 of those victories were on the road?? Who would you rather have....a qb who is great in the regular season (Romo) or a qb who is very good to great in the post season???
Eli had six playoffs. Whatcha' talkin bout tool?
We all know those defenses carried the giants to those two Super Bowl wins but Eli happened to make two incredibly clutch throws when the game seemed like it was in doubt so that will always elevate him at the end of the day but he’s AVERAGE AF. 🤷🏾♂️
Marley Colbert thank you as a giants fan I agree.
Look at the numbers from the 2 superbowls
Marley Colbert 2 SUPER BOWL MVP’s. If his defense did all the work then he wouldn’t have had the MVP get your head out of the mud and do some research
Ari Moore why tf do you think he got those two mvps? Off those two clutch plays and clearly you don’t remember that giants defense in 08 or 2011 they held those patriots teams in check both games.
Yeremy Rey first super bowl 19/34 255 yards 2td and a INT. That’s very pedestrian lol. 2nd super bowl 30/40 296 yards 1td. The 2nd time around his completions were higher but for him to complete 30 passes and only have 296 yards is average at best sorry 🤷🏾♂️
Fans who throw shade on Eli don't understand sports, don't understand champions. In both of Mannings 2 super bowl wins, the Giants trailed the New England Patriots with ONLY 2 minutes to go in the game and took possession of the ball on their own 20 yard line. IT WAS THE CLASSIC BIG GAME SITUATION. IT WAS THE BIG MOMENT WHICH ELEVATES GOOD PLAYERS TO GREAT. In both games, Manning lead the Giants down the field for the game winning touchdown, completing passes with impossible yardage to go on 4th down. Jimmy Garappolo was in the same situation against the Kansas City Chiefs in their super bowl matchup and failed to complete the passes. Wake up Eli haters.
I found it interesting that Paul Fineman saw fit during this exchange to literally place his hands over his ears, shutting down from even attempting to absorb incoming narrative, while Ryan Clark was presenting his case for his perspective.
Yep.
@red sanford fr? I mean my first impression of him was he might be a closet racist. So it was funny I found your comment.
I think he was just tired of yelling lol don’t read too much into it lol
My Dude Ryan Clark Killing the Eddie Murphy Impersonation So 🤣 🤣 🤣
Eli was never, at any point in time, the best quarterback in his division. McNabb. Romo. Foles. Wentz. Cousins. That's not HOF.
Name the number of qbs with 2 Super Bowls that’s why he’s in plane and simple. 2 rings playing quarterback that’s it may not be right but it’s true and you can’t name many with 2
Yet he has more super bowls than all other. Idiot
As a skins fan scratch Cousins but Romo Mcnabb Wentz Dak all better yeah you are right. He'll still go to the HOF because of the signature moments
@@johnnymckinney7030 That doesn't truly made him the better QB than them.
WHo ever got anything for being the best division Qb -haha. The only person on your list to win a SB was the backup. There have been thousands of people play QB but only a handful have 2 superbowl wins my friend.
If an argument about your candidacy erupts like this, you are NOT a HOF!
Ryan Clark A Real One ☝🏾 I Agree With Everything He Said👌🏾💯
@eoe123321 how
Eli will be a HOF quarterback, but I don't think he was great. He's going to get in on the strength of his last name and 2 great throws to help win 2 superbowls. To be honest his defense should get more credit.
But eli and the offense did have to save that super bowl though BC the defense gave up that last touchdown.
Well, 1 great throw and 1 of the greatest catches of all time
Ppl discredit this man but he beat brett Favre tom brady twice aaron Rodgers and matt Ryan in the playoffs this man is a great QB
And tony romo
Eli Manning is a 2x Superbowl champion and his teams actually beat the Patriots while Ryan Clark and the Steelers were destroyed in 2 championship games.
Dead Pool Clark has a super bowl ring too. See doesn’t mean anything
And yet individually how much better is Eli’s career than Clark’s outside of 2 years?
His team was a super team though they were 97 overall on madden that year BEFORE the season started.
I don't see your point if you're saying that his two chips make Eli a Hall of Famer.
@@austinsanbower1276 it doesn't mean anything to you wow who cares ur nobody
Ryan Clark did get his first interception against Eli Manning ... in a game that the Giants won 36 - 0. Clark played Eli 7 more times in his career and never got another interception off of Eli. As a matter of fact Clark's teams only won 3 games out of those 8 but hey, congrats on that one interception you got that time.
Ryan Clark was more of a strong safety who supported the run and was physical. Interceptions weren't his specialty. In his 12 seasons he had 16 total. Thats a little above 1 a year and Eli was that one and his first. So, I don't understand your comment.
@@jasonmartin7798 my point is that while he did get his first interception off of Eli, he's using that single moment as of it proves his point that Eli wasn't that good even though it was a completely insignificant moment that didn't affect the outcome of the game. The Giants dominated that game and Eli had a winning record against Clark throughout his career. He's trying to say that he has some kind of special objective insight on Eli because he played against him but he's conveniently leaving out the fact that Eli and the Giants played pretty well against his teams.
Dont worry Ryan Clark you're in MY HoF 😂😂😂😂
He was never a top 5 quarterback in any season not a HOF
He was top 5 in 2011. He broke unitas record for most tds in the 4th quarter. He also had six 4th quarter comebacks that season as well. He also carried a 29th ranked defense and 32nd ranked rushing offense to the playoffs.
@@jjjayden8964 don’t waste ur time bro these kids didn’t watch football back then.
2 sb wins...case closed hof
People have short memories. From 2008-9 to 2012 Eli was easily top 5
Why are the Mannings considered sacred to the NFL? Archie didn't win anything. Bill Belichick's sons have more rings than Peyton and Eli.
Rubben Delgado because they won championships
Rubben Delgado Winning is everything and they’re the only QB’s to beat Brady Multiple Times in big games
Peyton actually does have a lot of credibility. Dude was a sniper
BLITZ D pats fan. We’ll give Brady credit for being who he is but Brady Stan’s will never look at another QB and give them credit. It’s so exciting knowing within the next few years he will be gone and they will slowly descend into a shitshow
Peyton Manning was probably the greatest QB of all time
Belichick game planned for Eli to go to Maningham because he’s not a hall of famer - Ryan Clark
Yeah!? How’d that work out for him? - Eli Manning
That wasn't a catch. His foot wasn't down in time. Missed call.
Before the miracle catch the refs should have blown the play dead because Eli was sacked.
It was better for the league that BB lost to his former Giants.
How you gone tell a man who was there, an eyewitness... that he didnt witness what he witnessed. (?)
😂😂😂😭😭😭💀
Exactly 😂😂😂
Probably because he left out how they lost 36-0
Eli is TOP TEN passing yards and passing touchdowns. Look at the other TOP TEN quarterbacks. Impressive list.
Jam Petty ok and? He had two great runs which put him on the map, everything else shows he an average qb
AND beat Tom Brady's Patriots TWICE in a superbowl, lets not forget that -________-
The rest of them aren’t .500 QBs. You start the majority of 15 years you’re likely going to have top 10 stats
Also led the league in INTs 3 times...find that list and tell me who's on it? Beating Brady 2 times will do something for you but his career is straight up mediocre.
If you're a starting QB for 16 years you should be in the top 10 in passing yards and TDs. Eli will get into the Hall based on two playoff runs and longevity. The majority his career was unremarkable.
Why can't people be happy for people's success. The giants are not surrounded by hall of famers. He did the very best he could with the tools he had. He is a person that can see the play as it is happening and get it to the best possible outcome for each play
Besides what he has is integrity doing the right thing when nobody is watching.
It’s about changing the game. Eli has not changed the game. He should not be a HOF. QBs that cannot effect the game without a game plan, should not be a HOF. Super bowls should not be a criteria that automatically get you in. Eli did not beat the patriots the Giants defense dude.
Eli notable stats
* 5/16 seasons with 10-12 wins
* 4 One and dones in the postseason
* 3 years lead the lead in INTs
* 3 Division titles
* 1 since 2008
* Most notably his 2 Super Bowl runs his defence on average gave up 16.25 in 2007 and 14 in 2011 PPG
Also, no one give me that BS that he's 7th all time in passing yards, Joe Montana is 19th All-time and is going to be surpassed by Mattew Stafford this year..... completely different eras!!
Good job Eli you had an average career at best but rode 2 elite Ds to the super bowl so you'll go to the HOF
Man you so salty you need to go get yourself a drink
If u have to ask whether a man is Canton worthy then chances are hes not.
The thing I'll always respect with Eli is.... he played great in the biggest game, 2 superbowl MVPs he handled pressure a whole lot better than most people do.
The hall of Fame isn't solely for the legendary players, that's why they have tiers. You don't have to be Tom Brady to be a hall of famer. Eli is a hall of famer but a late ballot hall of famer. Dudes top 10/15 in every QB category, has two rings, and two super bowl MVPs. The fact that we're even having this conversation is laughable
Eli Manning is not a hall of famer at all. He’s in the same room as joe Montana and Dan marino nah
@@josemexable again, you clearly don't understand the hall of fame
Manning won two super bowls but he is not a hall of famer. He is a 500 quarterback and that’s not hall of fame to me. The defense won both those Super Bowls
"In 2011, Eli Manning led the team on seven fourth-quarter comebacks and eight game-winning drives, making him the NFL all-time leader for both in a single season (tied with Peyton Manning in 2009 for the former, and with Jake Delhomme in 2003 for the latter)." He also has the NFL record for post season completions in a playoff run.
christopher weise funny how the defenses were ranked 16th and 20th. They only played "elite" in the Superbowl.
Ben Roethlisberger And the Steelers defense for both Super Bowls. We all forgot about that
He has more Super Bowl MVPs and Aaron Rodgers
Facts ESPN should take this off the feed and take the fans vote and also let us comment on the nonsense Paul tried to anoint this man on moments it's the hof body of work u gonna show 3 replays of eli. But covering your ears and act like eli was really that great quit. Dont look at his 2 chips his career was garbage sorry hof top 6 at your position to get in at best. And that's being generous...
They asked him for his opinion str8 up ! They opened that can of worms.. haha
He's only going in because he was a Manning. He would have been benched and a great career back up if his last name was Dilfer or Johnson.
Mr. Phister he played with no WR, No line, RB, TE for 95 percent of his Career! Yet they won 2 sb which he was the mvp of both! People are debating he is a hall of Famer!
@@jamaalhorton2343 95%? You must not be a Giant's fan at all....now way. He had Brandon Jacobs, Ahmad Bradshaw, and Tiki Barber at running back. For TE, he had perennial probowler Jeremy Shockey. For receivers he had Victor Cruz, Amani Toomer, Plaxico Burress, Sterling Shepard, and Odell Beckham. His line did suck for many of those years.
Mr. Phister
Tell me what you achieved in your life?
Nothing probably
So .....
FOH
Hes 100% a hall of famer, owing brady twice was incredible
What's great is Eli is sittin at the house, laughin, while he polishes his pair of SB rings, countin all the money he made while just bein "a very good qb"
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Making money at something is Not validation.
@@careynewton6677 Spoken like somebody who's never been payed millions to play a game. And I'd say his SB rings are all the validation he needs.
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@@BubbAXHydE Jim Plunkett had 2 Super Bowl rings and is counting all the money he made while just being an average QB,
This aint about money or super bowl rings. Its a Hall discussion.
@@BubbAXHydEFlexing another man's money is crazy bro
Don't judge me but I think Ryan Clarke is one of the best looking men I ever saw.
Gaaay. Lol jk it's not a knock against your manhood to acknowledge that someone is handsome
Love Ryan’s takes. Of course Mr. SEC Paul thinks every former SEC QB should be in the HOF.
He wasnt a good qb with 2 superbowl rings, I will take it as Giants fan. The same amount as Elway and his brother. More than jim Kelly and marino, will take it all day
Bums don't win Super Bowls.
Aye Ryan and Dom in the 1st 15-20 secs had been rolling 😭😭😭.
Is Eli deserving of the Hall of Fame? Well, all I can say is on his way to his two Super Bowl rings, Eli out Romoed Romo, our Favred Favre, out Rogered Rogers and out Bradied Brady twice.
Eli is like Big Ben Both Had Their Moments Because Of Winning 2 Super Bowl Each But Their Career Stats isn’t impressive at all
Sumerian Phalanx Not by much and with Ben out and Eli not playing for the foreseeable future, that won’t change.
Ben was surrounded by hall of gamers his whole career
This is an interesting discussion. Eli and Big Ben both have about the same number of yards and TDs, but Eli has 50 more INTs and is not as accurate. However, Big Ben routinely had a top defense in the NFL up until about 2011, and then when his passing stats took off in 2013, this coincided with Antonio Brown going on his 6-season tear of 1200-yard, 100-reception seasons.
I would give the edge to Big Ben, as he led the league in passing yards twice, whereas Eli led the league in interceptions three times. Also, Big Ben played fewer games than Eli due to injuries and got his yards and TDs in fewer games, whereas Eli never missed a start due to injury.
Eli manning didn't have blocking on the offensive line for 8 years. He still delivered 2 Super bowls in the same decade. The Giants organization didn't protect Eli. Like the Patriots invested to protect Tom Brady!!! Of course Eli deserves to be in the HOF.