Should You Revisit Riven in 2022? Riven the Sequel to Myst Review

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  • Should you Revisit Riven in 2022?
    I Revisited Riven, and pose the question should you play riven again
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  • @kristiansvalland4595
    @kristiansvalland4595 2 роки тому +67

    the soundtrack was sooo good in Riven, that i actually bought the CD of the soundtrack. still have it to this day

    • @cursedblake
      @cursedblake  2 роки тому +4

      It is really good, I often listen to it. Listened to it while recording all voice over for this video 😅 thanks for watching!

    • @zesty2023
      @zesty2023 Рік тому +1

      I take my mid-day nap to the Riven or Exile soundtrack almost every day. Puts you to sleep SO fast.

    • @ChunzBunz
      @ChunzBunz Рік тому +2

      The Vinyl is coming soon! ❤

  • @gregkrazanski
    @gregkrazanski 2 роки тому +64

    the pre-rendered environments in Riven STILL look better than the most triple A game that exists today, honestly.

    • @cursedblake
      @cursedblake  2 роки тому +6

      They do look amazing. It’s kinda awesome to revisit 20+ years later and it still be awesome

    • @Raddish-IS-Radd
      @Raddish-IS-Radd 7 місяців тому

      😐👌 but they look pretty good though

  • @dustingarner4620
    @dustingarner4620 Рік тому +16

    "Riven isn't a sequel to Myst, it's Myst without limits." That's the best description I've heard, it's very accurate. I've seen in the video where Cyan talks about the making of, it definitely felt like that. I recently played Riven for the first time in years, and it was stunning as ever. I still feel like the visuals really hold up. When I was younger I wasn't as immersed in the story, but this time around I was stunned by how every single aspect of the islands felt like they intertwined with the story so well. It was such a wonderful experience to replay.
    I agree with the point and click still feeling really immersive. Have you heard of Neyyah? A solo developer is making a game that is clearly inspired by Myst and Riven, and it's point and click and looks amazing.

    • @cursedblake
      @cursedblake  Рік тому +2

      yeah im super keen to play Neyyah, had my eye on it for a few years. will definetly play and review it on channel when it comes out!

  • @hyrts
    @hyrts 2 роки тому +35

    This is awesome. I'm currently replaying this now after 20 years!-at the part where I just read Catherine's diary. I'm blown away by how much I forgot puzzle wise, but also how incredibly designed the world is. The puzzles don't feel like 'gamey' puzzles. There is a certain natural quality about them that reflect the culture of the people and characters. As you figure out the puzzles I like how you gain more insight into the culture and why these 'puzzle' contraptions would exist. It all feels so natural. Also agree with your take on FMV -even modern games CGI can't compete with a live human actor. Great review!

    • @cursedblake
      @cursedblake  2 роки тому +5

      Thank you so much for the comment I really appreciate it! It super awesome to hear someone else is as obsessed with this game as I have been for years. This game has such an organic feeling puzzle system, it blows me away that this game holds up so well considering it’s been 20+ years. Have you played many of the other myst series ( or other cyan puzzle games) I’m trying to revisit all of them and “review them this year hopefully, which one is your favourite?

    • @hyrts
      @hyrts 2 роки тому +5

      @@cursedblake Yeah I played the original myst back in 1995, Riven back in 2000 and Exile. I never played the others but I decided to replay the full series based on your myst 2021 review (when you indicated FMV was added). Riven was my favorite of the ones I played. You should definitely keep doing more of the myst series as your 2021 review got me hooked all over again! Thank you!

    • @normative
      @normative Рік тому +3

      Exactly dead on. Usually puzzles in games require a lot of suspension of disbelief: "Wow, good thing the Dark Lord has chosen to secure his most powerful magical relic with a simple riddle..." The genius of Riven was that the designers realized that figuring out unfamiliar technologies and symbol systems could make excellent puzzles out of things that, diegetically, weren't puzzles to the culture that created them, and therefore don't require us to rationalize why the world is full of artificial puzzles for us to solve.

  • @gryfandjane
    @gryfandjane Рік тому +13

    I was there for the original release of Riven, and yes, it is definitely a benchmark. It set the standard for integration of puzzles into the story and environment… not merely puzzles for puzzles’ sake, but artfully-crafted “friction” that enhances and propels the story.

    • @cursedblake
      @cursedblake  Рік тому +1

      Riven is not just a game but a work of art when it comes to integration of Puzzles into the game and story! I find myself constantly coming back to it every few years. thanks so much the comment really appreciate it

  • @evanmiller2438
    @evanmiller2438 Рік тому +9

    I had exactly the same experience as you as a kid. Riven's atmosphere sticks with me even today. The colors, the sounds, the FMV. It was truly a masterpiece and I've dreamt of a VR version of this game even since I was a kid. Insanely psyched for the remake.

  • @karelb84
    @karelb84 2 роки тому +14

    Awesome video. The reason there haven't been a Riven remaster is that Cyan is unable to access the original sources for the game. It is a bit unclear what the real reason for this is. Either they lost the original files, or the file formats are so outdated that the software or hardware needed just isn't available anymore. There is a group of volunteers who are recreating Riven in real-time 3D with the support of Cyan, called the Starry Expanse project. They have been working on it for several years now and it is unclear whenever a playable version of the hand will be released.

    • @cursedblake
      @cursedblake  2 роки тому +1

      Thanks so much! That is really interesting that they don’t have the original. I will look into starry expanse definitely would review it when if it fully comes out. Thanks again for watching and commenting I really appreciate it!

    • @rookiesru7271
      @rookiesru7271 2 роки тому

      @@cursedblake They don't have the original? Bummer. :( I was really hoping for a remake by Cyan alone.

    • @bonuebonue
      @bonuebonue Рік тому

      Riven Announcement : ua-cam.com/video/7pEb6wSpCks/v-deo.html :-))))))

    • @KingLief75
      @KingLief75 Рік тому +4

      Well, it seems they fixed the issue since they announced a remake.

  • @SacrificAbominat
    @SacrificAbominat Рік тому +14

    This game is definitely an experience and even if you don't entirely understand the puzzles exploring the islands is so immersive the dated low resolution pre rendered state of the game never crosses my mind. I've been following the Starry Expanse project, a fan remake of this game, for years and it's pretty cool that that got integrated into the actual remake Cyan just announced for this game. Looking at how detailed the environments were it must have been a nightmare to bring it's visuals up to date and fully explorable in 3D. I can't wait to play that version of this game when it comes out.

    • @cursedblake
      @cursedblake  Рік тому +3

      I too can’t wait. I played some of it the other night for another video I’m going to put out soon, and I can’t wait to see what they do with the game

    • @mistersurrealist
      @mistersurrealist 10 місяців тому +1

      I'm currently replaying Riven through ScummVM and using CRT shaders. The game looks absolutely STUNNING when you add scanlines, it's like the renders suddenly transform into HD. It really makes all the difference when playing this game on modern displays.

  • @nickblomgren
    @nickblomgren Рік тому +5

    I've said this before, but the thing that always strikes me is how Riven's puzzles... Aren't really "puzzles". Everything has function in the world and you have no context for it.
    A puzzle in Riven isn't something like: You need to find keys to drive this car.
    A puzzle in Riven is like: You need to find keys to drive this car. Also you don't know what a car is, or how keys would be used to drive in it.

  • @templetonf
    @templetonf Рік тому +3

    I remember playing Riven (and Myst) when they just came out. I was in grade school, but between my dad and little brother and I, we slowly worked our way through the puzzles. Long before any walkthroughs were written. An amazing experience!

    • @cursedblake
      @cursedblake  Рік тому +1

      One of the coolest things about making this video, is all the amazing stories I have heard about people experiences with the myst series of games. I love that some many families partners etc played it together and had such an awesome experience!

  • @zesty2023
    @zesty2023 Рік тому +8

    They did such a good job with the lighting on the FMW characters matching it to the game scene.

    • @cursedblake
      @cursedblake  Рік тому

      Yeah it looks really awesome! I really hope they are able to replicate something similar in the remake they are working on now!

  • @amarug
    @amarug 5 місяців тому +2

    I agree 100%, I LOVED Myst, thats why I got Riven later for my birthday. It was on a different plane. The graphics, the music, the designs, the mysterious lore. It was not just another game as we were used to, it was an experience, I was IN it, indescribable. I was too bit young and the Puzzles were a bit too hard, but still. I was never interested in monetary wealth, but then I wanted to become a billionaire, just so I could have the Riven world built, so I could go in it 😂. During lockdown I once saw it on Steam on my wifes PC (I don't play games or have Steam) so I played it through in two days. I had luckily forgotten many of the solutions so it look me a while. I was every bit as absorbed as I was then, when I finished it, I was literally a pile of tears. Together with the insane "parallel world nostalgia beauty" came a hefty pile of other memories and emotions about my parents and childhood. I could not handle it. Absolutely transcending experience. I will surely play it again at some point. ❤

    • @WIImotionmasher
      @WIImotionmasher 5 місяців тому +1

      Riven remake announced today btw

    • @cursedblake
      @cursedblake  3 місяці тому

      Awesome comment dude. I feel like a hallmark of an awesome game is the ability to freeze time and semi relive that time when you play it again. You might be able to relive it again soon with the remake coming out

  • @ShaytownDown
    @ShaytownDown Рік тому +4

    I just bought the hardcover that details the inspiration and production. I can’t wait for it to arrive (It’s called “From Myst to Riven”).
    Every year I remember this game at some point and watch a play through. It takes me back to such great times. I love the atmosphere and back story, the mystery and the world building. Imho, a masterpiece.

  • @gregkrazanski
    @gregkrazanski 2 роки тому +13

    I personally LOVED Obduction in terms of story/environment/puzzle integration. I think it's on a similar level to Riven, and maybe even better in terms of game design. I'm SO EXCITED for Firmament because Rand Miller seems to think it's the best thing they've ever come up with.

    • @cursedblake
      @cursedblake  2 роки тому +1

      I’m excited to play both. I dunno whether I should finish the myst series first then play obduction or just play obduction and make a video on it straight away

    • @KunjaBihariKrishna
      @KunjaBihariKrishna 2 роки тому +2

      Obduction made me realize that the static image exploration was better in some ways. It was extremely slow to move around in Obduction, but in Riven you can zoom across the map.

    • @miguelbranquinho7235
      @miguelbranquinho7235 Рік тому +3

      Some of its puzzles are quite brilliant, yes, but it's very slow and requires a lot of loadings which only made it slower. And the number system is very poor and the puzzles with it not very good, in my opinion. It's a great game, but doesn't stack to Riven.

    • @gregkrazanski
      @gregkrazanski Рік тому

      @@miguelbranquinho7235 Months later, after playing Riven again and watching a bunch of Riven content, I was wrong to say that Obduction is better. Riven is near-perfect, and Obduction, although a great game and brilliant in its own right, is not as incredible as Riven. But I'm still impressed that Rand and team managed to create an original IP with such comprehensive and fascinating mechanics that tie into the story/lore yet again.
      As I said, very excited for Firmament as it seems they have taken all their learnings from Obduction and the Myst remake, and also very excited for the Riven remake!

    • @miguelbranquinho7235
      @miguelbranquinho7235 Рік тому

      @@gregkrazanski Exactly my thoughts. Super excited as well for Firmament, hopefully my pc can run it.

  • @krausersama9153
    @krausersama9153 5 місяців тому +2

    One thing that rarely gets mentioned is the general sound design and foley. Like.. how satisfying is it to turn that creaking valve or hear the "chonk" when you finally pressed the right button and all the cogs and wheels spring into motion?! 😌

    • @cursedblake
      @cursedblake  5 місяців тому

      The sound design is amazing

  • @kalkstein2694
    @kalkstein2694 9 місяців тому +1

    I wasn't even born yet when the first Myst games were coming out but somehow I scored Riven from a shop as a kid in like 2010 and had no idea what was going on, but it still filled a special place in my memory. I came back to the whole series years later as an adult and absolutely loved it.

  • @jonathanwright5338
    @jonathanwright5338 Рік тому +1

    Such a well blended environment, to this day I never got over the unintentional jump scare of the little girl at 4:38

    • @cursedblake
      @cursedblake  Рік тому +1

      That girl left an impact on us all. Thanks for watching

  • @nadavleor
    @nadavleor 2 роки тому +6

    Just finished the new myst game and I really like the free movment I had, Riven look amazing and the art and lights are stuning even in today's standerts.
    to make real life video interact with game 3D is an art.
    hope that CYAN worlds will make remaster to most games or new games.

    • @viperdemonz-jenkins
      @viperdemonz-jenkins 2 роки тому +1

      someone is working on the remaster, hope it is more like realMyst remaster and not the newest version.

  • @trapez77
    @trapez77 Рік тому +7

    A great thing about riven is you can explore the entire age even if you don’t solve many of the puzzles.

    • @cursedblake
      @cursedblake  Рік тому +1

      Yeah I think that’s why it holds a special place in my heart, I played this as 8 or 9 year old and I didn’t really solve any serious puzzles but I did explore most of the game. Rather than myst which I don’t really remember much outside myst island! Thanks for watching

  • @NeilRoy
    @NeilRoy Рік тому +6

    Cyan just announced a Riven remake now. Looking forward to it. I really enjoyed all of them. I would love to see an Exile remake as it had some amazing locations... loved them all for different reasons. The only one I needed help with solving was Myst 4, it was really hard puzzle wise, but had the best engine of them all I felt with amazing locations.

    • @cursedblake
      @cursedblake  Рік тому +1

      Yeah I’m super excited about a riven remake. I’m so keen to play/stream it on the channel. Definitely will make a video on it when it comes out

  • @DungeonSoup
    @DungeonSoup Рік тому +2

    Riven is one of my favourite games of all time, and I only played it for the first time back in 2020, having never played any other games in the series at the time. I played it with my wife, half jokingly, so we could make fun of the archaic pre-rendered movie scenes. But that's not what happened. We ended up getting immersed within minutes. Before we knew it the entire night was gone playing the game and getting lost in it's world. We were blown away by how real it felt, how nicely integrated the puzzles were. We beat it within a few nights and it was one of the most memorable gaming experiences I've ever had. We've since played through most of the series, but none of them felt as immersive to me as Riven.
    I'm excited for the remake! I hope it captures the same magic as the original.

    • @cursedblake
      @cursedblake  Рік тому

      That's super awesome, Im super excited for the remake as well, would love to hear what you think of it after you play it

  • @Misa_Susaki
    @Misa_Susaki Рік тому +9

    And they just announced that they are making an official 3D remake.

    • @cursedblake
      @cursedblake  Рік тому +1

      It’s a dream come true. I’m so excited to see how riven looks with 3d environments

    • @bennylloyd-willner9667
      @bennylloyd-willner9667 6 місяців тому

      2024 and... They are finished...
      ...just kidding, of course they're not done yet😊
      I'll happily wait for it tho❤

    • @Dhaos620
      @Dhaos620 6 місяців тому +1

      I just saw an update

  • @ironbutterflyrusted
    @ironbutterflyrusted 2 роки тому +3

    I have just discovered your channel and really, really, really, appreciate your love of RIVEN.
    I was 27 when the game released and knew within the opening moments that this was going to be a huge influence on future gaming.
    I was literally blown away by how immersive the experience was. And I like you was an immediate fan of the then unique use of FMV, which for me has never been equalled. At that time Gaming promised me a movie style reality, RIVEN, in my mind really delivered on this promise.
    I do hope that this beautiful game can be remastered...and yes I too thoroughly enjoyed just travelling around in the Cable Car😁👍

    • @cursedblake
      @cursedblake  2 роки тому

      Thanks so much for the awesome message!

  • @francoisleveille409
    @francoisleveille409 Рік тому +2

    I never played Myst. I went directly to Riven and I was quite amazed 26 years ago now.

  • @Lia-A-Eastwood
    @Lia-A-Eastwood 2 роки тому +5

    I do on a regular basis. Riven was my first (and my most favourite) game by Cyan when it was released 25 years ago. I still got my note book with all my first coloured puzzle drawings (and I always like to imagined this book is my personal Indy Jones mystery skribbled note book). I am hooked on all of their games since then. Of course it's worth to revisit Kathryn and the two freaky brothers from time to time. And finally I am a backer for the first time to their new game Firmament. ♫

    • @cursedblake
      @cursedblake  2 роки тому

      That’s so awesome! I’m excited for firmament also

    • @jaimicotontico
      @jaimicotontico Рік тому +1

      Same effect as me ... indeed Riven feels like going through a portal into a new world...

  • @treehouse5577
    @treehouse5577 5 місяців тому +1

    I still own this. Can’t play it but it’s so nostalgic that I can’t get rid of it. I loved this when I first played this, I was blown away by the worlds, story it was fantastic. Was one of the best games I played.

    • @cursedblake
      @cursedblake  3 місяці тому

      It’s a shame you can’t play the og game anymore more. With the remake out I’m really hopefully more people get to experience this game for the first time and relive it

  • @DanMacWilliams
    @DanMacWilliams 8 місяців тому +1

    Riven is my favorite even though I didn't get very far in it. I believe they're going to complete a full 3D remake like they did with Myst, and when they do I'm totally getting it. Just hope they let us walk around Tay (the cover of the game scene) instead of just look at it. ;)

  • @tomburns7544
    @tomburns7544 Рік тому +2

    Everything you mentioned was so spot on and makes Riven one of my favourite games of all time. Another thing that blew me away when I played it was John Keston's performance as Gehn. His acting is the finest I have seen in any game and made the stakes seem so much higher. Thank you for such a well done review!

  • @dafoex
    @dafoex Рік тому +2

    I've been wanting to try Myst, and now I think I'll try Riven, too. It sounds like a game that doesn't sacrifice gameplay just so it can have a good story like so many modern games that "railroad" you into playing the game the way the story dictates.

  • @Rivenworld
    @Rivenworld Рік тому +2

    Riven - the often unsung hero, only now is it being recognised for the masterpiece it is. Still play it even after all these years, on my tablet, my phone, my laptop and my 3 PC's.. The music is incredible and fits the game perfectly.

  • @jameshicks7125
    @jameshicks7125 6 місяців тому +1

    I just played it and Exile again in the past few weeks. Even though I play Skyrim, Death Stranding, Witcher 3, and many others, these both held up well. I was totally engrossed and forgot the puzzles since I hadn't played since 2006. The animal Puzzle and the Fire Marbles are tricky.

    • @cursedblake
      @cursedblake  6 місяців тому

      Yeah I’m the same, myst series of games is really my one deviation from my normal style of games I play and review. I tend to be fan of very different stuff. There is just something fantastic about the story and the environment they created

  • @Lallander
    @Lallander 11 місяців тому +2

    They're currently working on a fully 3d remake. I can't wait.

    • @cursedblake
      @cursedblake  11 місяців тому +1

      Same I’m super excited for it. Planning on playing through the game on the channel and probably making some kind of review on it

  • @philgreen815
    @philgreen815 Рік тому +1

    Soundtrack is a work of art on its own. One of my favourite pc games ever. I also bought the music CD, but listen to the this as a form of relaxation and never tire of it. RIVEN is an all time classic.

  • @FlyingAce1016
    @FlyingAce1016 3 місяці тому +1

    Super nostalgic game this and myst
    But especially Riven its atmosphere was something I realized was special even from the young age of 4-7ish watching my older brother play Riven and later myself

    • @cursedblake
      @cursedblake  3 місяці тому

      I have seen a heap of comments saying played this as a family that would have been a super interesting experience having someone else to bounce ideas off! Thanks for the comment!

  • @tln6576
    @tln6576 Рік тому +3

    I agree with everything you've said - Riven was actually the first proper home 'video game' I played (at 25) and it influenced me for life as a creator. (But ruined me for playing any other video game, ever!)
    It feels REAL, even though it's not 3D, and the soundtrack is the best ever, even 25 years later or whatever. Just an amazing marriage of music/score and imagery, story and puzzles. I actually played Myst later and it just wasn't as good. None of the games that came after matched it...Although Myst IV was pretty good. Riven was something special and much bigger than everyone who worked on it. I think they imagined a location that actually must exist somewhere. !!!

    • @cursedblake
      @cursedblake  Рік тому +1

      it does seem real. I can't wait to see how its remade. thanks for the comment really appreciate it!

  • @jakkudemoff3043
    @jakkudemoff3043 4 місяці тому +1

    riven is the game the got me into pc gaming and the first game that ever made me feel like I was transported to another place - can't wait for the remake in vr !!

    • @cursedblake
      @cursedblake  3 місяці тому

      It’s going to be super interesting

  • @sneedle252
    @sneedle252 Рік тому +1

    Having each disk be a roughly circular island in the game was brilliant.

  • @Collartie
    @Collartie Рік тому +2

    my favorite game. i thought computers were gonna elevate humanity during the days i was playing this game as it was a leap in that direction, next thing ya know, Grand Theft Auto is the trend and hardly anyone knows about Riven/Myst

  • @FrogworfKnight
    @FrogworfKnight Рік тому +1

    The answer is yes, even with the announcement of a remake in the works (from Cyan not the fan project).

  • @ANunes06
    @ANunes06 Рік тому +1

    Played Myst and Riven as a family. I understand I'm not alone in that. We'd chat about what we think should be done next, or share thoughts on various mysteries. We started referring to them as Pissed and Driven.
    I try to think of any other time my entire family was sitting in the living room together, cooperating and sharing ideas and notes. I can't. There were other communal gaming experiences, but they were things like controller passing to take turns at levels or on deaths, or 1v1 experiences like Tetris, Dr. Mario or (my personal favorite of the Things Fall From The Sky genre) Dr. Robotnik's Mean Bean Machine.
    But nothing that just fully occupied the brain space of my entire family for months at a time like Riven did.
    I remember the day we collectively worked out the number system in the game vividly. Once we thought we had it, we started trying to write as many numbers as we could using the system and realized we not only knew enough to understand what the game was presenting, but also that it was a fully functional numbering system that could be used to express any rational number.
    What a spectacular experience that I will treasure forever.

    • @cursedblake
      @cursedblake  3 місяці тому +1

      This comment i have read again and again over the 11 months since you posted it, and i have found it hard to put in words how fantastic that memory must be for you. This is one of the coolest things i have heard about a experience with a game. i think its amazing that something like riven could bring a family together. thanks for sharing this ! i hope that you can relive some of this memory when the riven remake comes out!

  • @augustomarchand
    @augustomarchand 2 роки тому +2

    This game was the pinnacle of the genre, followed by Zork Nemesis. Stunning graphics, puzzles, music and atmosphere. Unfortunelly was my debut in adventure games circa 1997 and I was not able to solve it without a walkthrough.

    • @cursedblake
      @cursedblake  2 роки тому

      I have never played any of Zork games, is it worth a playthrough? Maybe a review ?

    • @augustomarchand
      @augustomarchand 2 роки тому +1

      @@cursedblake Zork Nemesis is brilliant with the best FMV acting, incredible graphics, very good puzzles, great plot and not so hard as Riven, so an expert adventure gamer can solve it without a walktrhough. I played Return To Zork, and to me was extremely hard to solve, so I never finnished it. I Never played Zork Grand Inquisitor but I have this game in my collection.

  • @deadturret4049
    @deadturret4049 3 місяці тому +1

    I think the real difference between Myst and Riven is that Riven feels lived in. Myst had the bedrooms of Sirrus and Achenar and nothing else. The ages were puzzles, not puzzling places.

    • @cursedblake
      @cursedblake  3 місяці тому

      Yeah that’s the best way of putting it. And I think from what I have seen from the behind the scenes stuff is they wanted it to be a place they could see themselves in or want to visit

  • @RundeKatze
    @RundeKatze 2 роки тому +2

    I think what is unique to this game is the design of things and the environment. The approach of the design is a unique mixture of real objects and fantasy in a way that is mindblowing. just look at the lab on the assembly island lab. The whark teeth lamps the tables the furniture in general... everything!

    • @cursedblake
      @cursedblake  2 роки тому

      Sorry for taking ages to reply. This is one of the reasons why I love this game, the little touches really make it

  • @VRnamek
    @VRnamek 3 місяці тому

    I'm actually visiting it first time right next week - and in VR to boot. Woot!
    gone are static backgrounds, I'm just stepping there. Myst and Obduction felt great too

  • @jb1055
    @jb1055 Рік тому +1

    Omg amazing. So many memories. This just popped in my head after 20 years. Such a beautiful game. I got stuck on the beach/pipes area. Ugh I wanna go back…

    • @cursedblake
      @cursedblake  Рік тому +1

      I love that beach! Now I wanna go back too

  • @kyleowsen
    @kyleowsen Рік тому +1

    The way Riven teaches you its number system is still the most clever thing I've ever seen in a game.

  • @slothguy_
    @slothguy_ Рік тому

    my uncle had 5 cd's (pirated versions) of this game in his office, I remember playing for the first time with my cousins, it felt like I was in a movie finding a secret and looking at a world I wasn't supposed to see, the most magical experience of my life.

  • @yracpontiferous4846
    @yracpontiferous4846 11 місяців тому +2

    I do not understand why people find the fire marble puzzle so difficult. The game gives you the entire solution except for the color of one marble, but you only have two choices left so it’s literally a 50/50 of getting it right first try.

    • @blazefire5204
      @blazefire5204 8 місяців тому

      I agree, the sad thing is that the only place I got stuck on is that you have to flip the switch AND press the white button to enter the combination. I thought the white button was a light indicating the switch was flipped. I tried the two choices while only flipping the switch, and went to the books themselves to see if they were powered and was frustrated to find them still off, even though I had the right solution.

  • @vabvaab
    @vabvaab Рік тому +1

    Riven has such a relaxing yet melancholy vibe. The ost and sound design alone are not just good by current standards, they're great.

  • @mmo4754
    @mmo4754 Місяць тому +1

    I would LOVE to play original Riven with upgraded renders!

  • @michiganjack1337
    @michiganjack1337 2 роки тому +3

    I’m definitely all for the pre-rendered environments than the 3D ones. As you mentioned the live action blends more seamlessly with the pre-rendered environments. Just imagine what they could do using the same design decisions from Riven but with the capacity to render at insane resolutions like 8k?!

    • @cursedblake
      @cursedblake  2 роки тому +1

      Oh it would be unreal. I know there is a game in the works ( can’t remember off the top of my head what it is called) which is going to be pre-renders in the same style as the og myst and riven, just at much better resolutions. I’m really interested how that will come out ( will go searching for the name of the game and post it here when I find it.)

    • @cursedblake
      @cursedblake  2 роки тому

      also if you want go look up starry expanse ( that is a fan led project looking at restoring/remaster riven... some really interesting stuff happening over there at the moment. they have a discord where they chat about progress or cool stuff that is happening. if you want the link i can find it for you

    • @cursedblake
      @cursedblake  2 роки тому +3

      So the game is called neyyah, looks really awesome I recommend wishlisting it on stream so you know it comes out. It really looks a feels like riven from the pictures I have seen already store.steampowered.com/app/1289720/Neyyah/

    • @AaronGwynaireGameDev
      @AaronGwynaireGameDev 2 роки тому +1

      @@cursedblake Hey! Thanks for mentioning Neyyah! I'm the solo developer of the game :) Love this video! Great seeing all the points made which I believe in 100%! Neyyah definitely will retain the prerendered screen to screen style, and a definite pull of nostalgia for explorers! :)

  • @kemasuk
    @kemasuk Рік тому +1

    The lever on the right in the first few scenes has major visual vibes of being a sprite, until one of the AMV characters USES IT.

  • @jacklindsey8400
    @jacklindsey8400 Рік тому +1

    Honestly... hearing Riven is Myst without the restraints feels like a minus more than a plus, as the idea that I can solve every problem on an island with the stuff I have found already feels more attractive an idea to me than going around multiple islands trying to figure out when I finally have all the puzzle pieces together to figure it out.

    • @cursedblake
      @cursedblake  Рік тому

      Yeah totally, I must say I get a lot more of out myst puzzle wise than I do with riven. I find the puzzles in riven so much harder but I can’t get over the general vibe of riven and that’s why keeps making me come back. Thanks for watching and the awesome comment

  • @richardparrott7192
    @richardparrott7192 Рік тому +1

    Had the original and nostalgia got it on my Steam now! Agree with you assessment of this great game!

  • @wvecst
    @wvecst 8 місяців тому +3

    Myst and Riven are two of the best games ever made

  • @anklebiterwoodworks2818
    @anklebiterwoodworks2818 Рік тому

    I remember when I was 17 and playing this for the first time. Made in 3ds Max, my program of choice since 2000, still there. And the second time I played it a second time, solutions to button type puzzles were ACTUALLY DIFFERENT! Blew my mind. Don't know if it was a bug, but, def made it far more engrossing where your old notes were fully invalid! OMG! Learning that the hard way actually made the game all the more better. Loved knowing how new Quicktime was with Myst and then when Riven came out....well, Riven got me to spooge far better than my crush on the redheaded Ariana Grand (yes, actual name: second example of why I have such a weakness for natural redheads--ala Dr. Beverly Crusher) that worked at Staples when I did.
    I STILL have the CD of the Riven soundtrack and STILL LOVE it.
    And, further, the whole Maglev rides and such is what convinced me to take on CGI as a hobby and, well, I got some half baked projects half done that totally take artistic license an pay respect to Myst and Riven.
    GOD! I fell old. Born 1980. Myst was the first game I got for my first actual PC and then Riven. Nostalgia and then time just kills the euphoria, but not entirely.

  • @TheRandomView
    @TheRandomView Рік тому +1

    Riven was my favourite game ever! Cyan is doing a full remaster for release sometime next year.

  • @patjohbra
    @patjohbra Рік тому +1

    A few weeks ago I played Myst (2021) and Riven, never having played either game before. Riven took a some getting used to. I initially found the fixed viewpoints and vagueness of how to do anything jarring and frankly off-putting (I kept wanting to look at things from perspectives that weren't available, for example), but after an hour or so of not having a clue where I was or what I was doing, I got pretty used to it and had a much better idea of how to interact with the game

    • @cursedblake
      @cursedblake  Рік тому

      it definitely takes some getting used after playing through the myst remake of 2021. im super glad you found the games and enjoyed them! they are definitely one of my favourite games ever made

  • @weirdalexander8193
    @weirdalexander8193 4 місяці тому +1

    As someone in 2024, I recommend playing riven in preparation for the remake. Hell, buy the old one even if the new one’s already out, it’s a legendary piece of adventure game history!

    • @cursedblake
      @cursedblake  4 місяці тому

      Yeah that’s my plan, might even upload my playthrough to the channel which could be super fun!

  • @christianboi7690
    @christianboi7690 Рік тому +2

    I’ve never played myst, but I found and old 5 dvd set case in our basement and am a little intrigued.

    • @cursedblake
      @cursedblake  Рік тому

      oooo that's awesome, I couldn't revisit booting it up. I love finding old games and seeing what they are like

  • @Macil2018
    @Macil2018 Рік тому +1

    Very well said. Good video. Good opinions. On a side note, Riven has one of the most immersive scores I've ever heard put in film or game ever.

    • @cursedblake
      @cursedblake  Рік тому +1

      The score is fantastic. The atmospheric nature of it just works so well

  • @redfoxbennaton
    @redfoxbennaton Рік тому +1

    Riven is stupidly beautiful. It's drop dead Gorgeous. It age way better than Myst. I got downvoted for this on Reddit. I don't think I could ever get behind a 3D point and click polygonal point and click adventure game. Riven is lively as hell.

  • @MegaJugganot
    @MegaJugganot Рік тому

    Riven is one of the greatest games ever made...
    ...On the first playthrough. Once you know what the main puzzles are, even decades later replaying just feels like checking the boxes.

  • @bennylloyd-willner9667
    @bennylloyd-willner9667 3 місяці тому +1

    Here in 2024, in eleven days, the "Revisit Riven" takes another, wonderful, dimension ❤

    • @cursedblake
      @cursedblake  3 місяці тому

      I’m so excited. Can’t wait to play riven on a modern system. Have been itching to play it again

  • @dkdaweb
    @dkdaweb Рік тому +2

    Short answer: Yes
    Long answer: Yes, go play Riven bro

  • @BorisMinor
    @BorisMinor Рік тому

    I absolutely loved the cable car and travel scenes as a kid. The whole concept of that in a game that "looked realistic" was amazing to me. I think I solved one puzzle, but didn't really care. I might have to give it a crack.

  • @jdiezastronomy
    @jdiezastronomy Рік тому

    I've seen the evolution of games from dot tennis on a tv. I only played packman and tetris. Then, I bought Myst during a US long stay. It blew my mind and hooked a growing group of friends. Then it came Riven...some of the puzzles where too difficult, but who cared? The world construction is still one of the most beautiful in games! Still holds on! Because there where very good Artists making the virtual world. I'd love to walk Riven with a VR!

    • @jdiezastronomy
      @jdiezastronomy Рік тому

      By the way, name one 3D game with such a beautiful art?

  • @Caldoric
    @Caldoric Рік тому +1

    Short answer: a resounding "YES!"

  • @strawberrired
    @strawberrired Рік тому +1

    Riven is one of my all time favourite games so obviously I agree with everything. Also if you get it on GoG you don't have to go through the pain of changing CD three times when you make a misstep in the wrong place. :D
    (Also, if you're extra nerdy The Book of Atrus gives a bit more backstory into how things on Riven came to be :))

    • @cursedblake
      @cursedblake  Рік тому

      Yeah that huge cd set was rough, I have to get my hands on the book of atrus one of these days

  • @terabeatnik2000
    @terabeatnik2000 2 роки тому +1

    Here's a tip for folks who love games like Myst and Riven for their puzzles mostly: try the RHEM games. They have less story and less astounding graphics, but oboy, the amount and intricacy of the puzzles is toppest notch - WAY higher than Cyan's. And they are all made by just one dude!

    • @cursedblake
      @cursedblake  2 роки тому

      I have never played the RHEM games, will have to look into them

  • @Yoctopory
    @Yoctopory Рік тому +2

    Short answer: Yes.
    Long answer: Yes, always.

  • @Michela
    @Michela Рік тому +2

    This is such a fantastic revisit to Riven. How do you feel about the announcement of the remake that Cyan just announced?

    • @cursedblake
      @cursedblake  Рік тому

      I’m super excited, I’m just hopeful it doesn’t take too long for it to come out!

  • @petioleyu
    @petioleyu Рік тому +1

    When I want to immerse myself into something that needs my full concentration (model making, etc.), I listen to Riven ost. 👍

    • @cursedblake
      @cursedblake  Рік тому

      I took your advice and built some models to the riven ost. It was the perfect soundtrack to build 40K to 😊

  • @waelelsebaey
    @waelelsebaey Рік тому +1

    Great review
    Made me subscribe
    Cause no one talks about these hidden gems anymore
    One word to describe this game
    Out of this world
    As I remeber playing it
    Didn't wanna finish
    Didn't wanna leave the game's world
    And this how good the game was
    Immersive relaxing
    In your review I was waiting for you to mention the ost part
    Still ingering in my memory
    And whenever a game talk starts
    I always mention this game as one of the absolute best games then and to me till forever it will be
    Thanks alot for the nostalgia dose
    Wish you the best

  • @kylehc15
    @kylehc15 Рік тому +1

    cant wait for the vr port to finish and release its gonna be amazing

    • @cursedblake
      @cursedblake  Рік тому

      can't wait to play and review it!

    • @kylehc15
      @kylehc15 8 місяців тому +1

      @@cursedblake i hope the whole series gets a vr port cause why stop at at myst 1 and riven

    • @cursedblake
      @cursedblake  8 місяців тому

      @@kylehc15 yeah 100%

  • @DoctorTex
    @DoctorTex Рік тому +1

    Official 3D Riven in Development let's goooooo!

  • @troublewithweebles
    @troublewithweebles Рік тому +1

    May I humbly announce: RIVEN remake in development.

  • @Tommy_Two_Two
    @Tommy_Two_Two Рік тому +1

    This might be a good candidate for a VR remake.

    • @cursedblake
      @cursedblake  Рік тому

      I’m unsure if the remake announced a few months back said if it will be in VR or not

  • @viperdemonz-jenkins
    @viperdemonz-jenkins 2 роки тому +2

    still have my old Riven CD rom also got it on steam in the 25th anniversary pack.

    • @cursedblake
      @cursedblake  2 роки тому

      I love that CD set for riven, the artwork on the box was amazing. Thanks for watching the video I really appreciate it

  • @scaremind
    @scaremind Рік тому +2

    And now a remake is announced :) I'm really looking forward to it.

    • @cursedblake
      @cursedblake  Рік тому

      me too, I'm so excited to play it and share my views with you guys!

  • @geminielectro
    @geminielectro Рік тому +1

    One of my favorites videogame. I have the Sega Saturn version.

    • @cursedblake
      @cursedblake  Рік тому +1

      I have never played any of the console versions. Would love to compare the pc version to those

  • @onebgbdartemis1381
    @onebgbdartemis1381 3 місяці тому +1

    I'll Most certainly revisit Riven, and the sequels, provided the remasters get released on console.
    Play them all over again for the 3rd time. Absolutely loved this series.
    But alas, no mention of console release, so yeah

    • @cursedblake
      @cursedblake  3 місяці тому

      I would too love a console release, exploring riven on ps5 would be so great

    • @onebgbdartemis1381
      @onebgbdartemis1381 3 місяці тому +1

      Along with Exile and Revelation

    • @cursedblake
      @cursedblake  3 місяці тому

      @@onebgbdartemis1381 yeah I still need to play the games post exile

  • @Planetdune
    @Planetdune Рік тому

    I don't think many people would think Myst is better than Riven. Also since when is 4:3 a "weird aspect ratio", it was the standard for ages and still feels home to me.

    • @cursedblake
      @cursedblake  Рік тому

      There are some who consider myst to be superior to riven. Also the fact that it’s been re-released almost every 5-10 years means that more people have played it, hopefully that changes now with the riven remake in the works. in regards to the aspect ratio, it’s weird because it’s not standard anymore and hasn’t been for ages, when I made this video I had just finished the 2021 remake of myst and it was alittle frustrating to go back to 4:3 after that. Also stylistically I wanted to have the video look the same as the others I have so that’s why I changed the aspect ratio in post production.

  • @zenithquasar9623
    @zenithquasar9623 Рік тому +1

    I still don't understand how well they blended live action actors into the scenes seamlessly back then!

  • @bchristian85
    @bchristian85 Рік тому

    Riven was a better game, but the nostalgia for the original is much stronger due to the fact that almost everyone had it. I don't remember very many people having Riven.

  • @yenk82
    @yenk82 Рік тому +1

    I've just finished this game, I needed the help of a guide to solve many puzzles.
    It's great game but I wouldn't suggest it to a causal/general player, it's a "niche" game

    • @cursedblake
      @cursedblake  Рік тому +1

      Yeah definitely. Some people hate this style of game. I always need a guide with the myst series games, I endeavour to one day be able to solve them all without a walkthrough… might take a few years 😅

  • @fieryphoenix586
    @fieryphoenix586 Рік тому +1

    Looking at how the remake of Myst looks, I'm curious how Riven will look in a 3D environment.

  • @sg1jb
    @sg1jb 2 роки тому +1

    I've been thinking of revisiting riven for a long time now, perhaps once I catch up on a couple of games I'll get to it. I've never been much of a pc gamer (I play mainly of PlayStation), very rarely get my laptop out as it. So probably a big reason I've never got back to it. If I start I'd probably get into it though. I love myst and riven though, they are a huge reason I love gaming today. I do own myst 3,4 and 5 but... I have never played them yet 😅

    • @cursedblake
      @cursedblake  Рік тому

      I dunno if it’s worth waiting for the riven remake or just revisit rn… or why not both 😝

    • @sg1jb
      @sg1jb Рік тому

      @@cursedblake I'm super excited to see how the remake turns out!! Can't wait to see more of it. But yeah why not both then I can really compare the difference 😉

  • @SDVHILzseriolih
    @SDVHILzseriolih 3 місяці тому +2

    turns out you should just wait til 2024 and play Riven when its been released as a real time first person adventure instead of the old school still image version :D

    • @cursedblake
      @cursedblake  3 місяці тому

      Basically 😛

    • @TheCatinator2
      @TheCatinator2 2 місяці тому +1

      Play it in VR ;) absolute best way to play it 👍

  • @SLCclimber
    @SLCclimber Рік тому +1

    I'm so psyched for the remake. Is there a more atmospheric game than Riven existing today? I submit that there is not.

    • @cursedblake
      @cursedblake  Рік тому

      Yeah I don’t think there is! Definitely one the best ones out there

  • @bojoblue
    @bojoblue Рік тому +1

    Riven is king. The best of the series by far.

  • @nodak81
    @nodak81 Рік тому +1

    It's kind of weird. I'm a huge Myst fan but I didn't actually play any of the games on PC until late in the series. Myst on 3DO, Riven on PS1, Myst III on PS2 and Myst IV on Xbox. It wasn't until Uru and Myst V that I finally played on PC. Riven was special though, I couldn't stop playing. I literally wore out the optical drive in my Playstation.

    • @cursedblake
      @cursedblake  Рік тому

      yeah Riven is something else. oops on the optical drive

  • @paulsmith410
    @paulsmith410 Рік тому +2

    And now RIVEN is getting the update treatment.

    • @cursedblake
      @cursedblake  Рік тому +1

      Indeed it is! I’m so excited for it

  • @UKGeezer
    @UKGeezer Рік тому

    I would really love it if Riven comes to xbox or PS5 one day. I do have the original Riven PC disc plus all the others in the series, but prefer to play on consoles, no faffing trying to get games to work properly, lol

    • @cursedblake
      @cursedblake  Рік тому

      Well with the riven remake in the works that will be a possibility. Which is super exciting!

  • @LazySleestack
    @LazySleestack Рік тому

    I liked Riven well enough. But I felt like it was a bit TOO big. After needing to go back and forth between islands 10-15 times to solve a puzzle I got sick and tired of the immersion and just wanted to get it done. It was similar with riding the trams. The first dozen times you take that underwater ride it is so cool. But after that I started wishing there was a way to just his escape and wait for a load screen. Anything to speed up the transitions.
    Also, IIRC, on the original game you had to actually switch out the CDs. THAT was a royal pain in the but. I can only assume that any never version of the game would not need that.

  • @michaelgreenberg6344
    @michaelgreenberg6344 Рік тому +1

    I hear Cathode Ray Dude legitimately owns Riven, 3 times

  • @KunjaBihariKrishna
    @KunjaBihariKrishna 2 роки тому +1

    While Riven is definitely similar to Myst, in terms of difficulty and puzzle design it is dramatically more difficult. You can't solve the puzzles without immersing yourself in the world. It's the only way to connect the dots. Where as in Myst, you didn't need to do that. You'd just find the solutions somewhere on a wall, or the puzzle could be solved just by interacting with it

    • @cursedblake
      @cursedblake  2 роки тому

      Riven always hurt my brain way harder than myst did. Thanks for the comment

  • @WIImotionmasher
    @WIImotionmasher 5 місяців тому +1

    the recently shown off remaster has brought me here

    • @cursedblake
      @cursedblake  4 місяці тому

      I’m super excited for the remaster

  • @tonyallen4265
    @tonyallen4265 Рік тому +1

    My favorite aspect of Riven is the perfect integration of story, environments and puzzles. Too bad Firmament didn't have the same goal. It's lore was lacking in several ways. Such a disappointment.

    • @cursedblake
      @cursedblake  Рік тому

      yeah im working through firmament at the moment ( very slowly due to the issues im having with the game, video should be out eventually.) firmament does have something, but it really doesn't have the rich lore that myst series does. Riven blends story, environments and puzzles perfectly.

  • @alexissercho
    @alexissercho Рік тому +1

    they remaking it! just saw the teaser ! , still the best game ever made to this date.