Just speaking of the southern U.S., the concept has survived. I don't know how many times I heard, "a man is only as good as his word" when I was growing up. In a small town, the social consequences of breaking your word were real. It's still like that in many rural communities, although unfortunately it's in decline.
This is honestly why I don’t make many oaths or promises, because when I do I want you to understand the significance of what I’m doing/saying. They are not to be taken lightly. I keep my actions in every day life consistent enough to not require them for the small things.
The necessity of mixing blood (or something) goes back to sympathetic magic ideas, that this would magically connect the two people so that their fortunes would be bound together, and so harm to one would harm the other. Also, the Germanic people, and many PIE people (and other cultures), believed that words could literally bind the world. Therefore, if you committed to an oath and did not keep it, the world itself would find a way to punish you (or existence itself, or whatever).
Doesn't go vack to "sympathetic magic" it goes back to the biblical concepts that all Noah's children took with them after the ark and into each nation that they founded. That being that the soul is connected with the blood, and a blood covenant, or mi going on blood makes the 2 souls united as one. You were not supposed to drink the blood so wine was a symbolic covenant drink (though later blood was dropped in and later pagans straight up drank just blood). Other blood covenants involved shedding of animal blood in sacrafice....or breaking of a woman's "blood" virginity in sexual union for a marriage covenant.
It does karmaticly bind a person based not only on magic arts but genetics and frequency. Research has proven that vibration and words can change an epi genetic code. I think it’s intriguing to think that the oath stated in the father language created a vibration onto the family lineage through the dna code. The mixing of blood also would change the epi genetics by introducing something foreign. It’s a huge reason why, btw certain religions refuse blood transfusions….they believe it changes their fate.
It’s just whatever. Let him do his thing. Our audiences are different. He keeps the layman entertained. My videos are meant to have a lasting impact upon people who want to DO something with the information provided.
I had my own experience as an oathbreaker. When i was a kid, i was at a baseball game in town, and i was so hungry but had no money. I promised to help clean up after the game for some food. Well, i had my food, and then i left and went home. Well i lived in a small town so they knew who i was and where i lived so the concession owner showed at my house, told my mom what happened and was told to go with her and help like i promised. Even though i did do it. The loss of trust as a consequence of my actions still sits with me all these years later. And i learned that a man is only as good as his word is trusted.
I don't look at this is as a negative experience. You still fulfilled your oath, even if your parents had to get involved as a kid. You learned from this.
PS did u see JC new video he interviews an expert in pre latin alpine alphabets and she says there was a cult of writing in some of these groups in pre roman North Italy but no inscriptions by individuals in this manner, as opposed to Runic discoveries which she understands why they could be interpreted that way ie magical! His face glazes over and he says that is interesting! Cheers from Mercia
Thank you for this video and all the research! Oaths mean a lot to me. I take them VERY seriously. I've only made one oath to odin. It was on the last full moon of the year in 2021. I took an oath to not drink any booze all 2022. I managed to achieve it! I haven't been able to think up another worthy & realistic one. Making a life long oath scares the shit out of me and If I made one; I'd make damn sure I could keep it. But if the oath is TOO easy to keep; I think it defeats the purpose a little bit. That's my two cents anyway :) Thanks again mate!
@@scottt.shellcontinentalger2464 Thanks; it wasn't, but now that I've done that I have far more control over my drinking than I ever have. I've found that through sacrificing to the gods, ancestors and land spirits; that there is as much benefit to myself and my personal growth than there is to the entities that I'm offering to. (not animals obviously >_< but bits of food and other things of value) It's hard to offer up a whole half bottle of whiskey. I'm nowhere near rich! I believe that I've become a much less materialistic person since doing these things. And this segways back into oaths. People back in the day valued oaths much more over some rich lord or king that came along and tried to buy them off. Values, ethics, principles and morals. These things end up meaning so much more when you're not tied to materials.
Not that I'm aware of. I'm also not sure how Fenrir would fit into the picture. MAYBE, albeit very unlikely, you could make an argument for "hateful ones," but it doesn't have anything to do with Fenrir.
I believe it must be essential in the natural order of things that the only permissible reason to break an oath is exploitation and abuse of that trust! Chrisholm - 110. I know that Odin swore an oath on a ring, How shall his troth be trusted? He robbed Suttung and took his sumble. To Gunnloth he brought sorrow
@@WestlehSeyweld Unfortunately, Love has become a buzzword used by folks that want to push whatever sort of agenda they have, attaching it to an otherwise beautiful emotion. Love should be reserved for special people, family, life partners, close friends, etc. To reduce love a wholesale value is to depreciate it's value and meaning, which is far worse than not seeing enough love just freely spread amongst the world.
Find it within your own local tribe, kin, and family first. Like I said, the only way to have any impact regarding the oath is to build it from the ground up.
This video is weirdly replete with social commentary that doesn't sound academically sound. It's quite the stretch to argue that promise-keeping was valued more in a historical society based on written accounts, which condemn oath-breaking, with the claim that oaths given today are commonly broken. You go in with the bias that today, oaths are broken only because in your experience false testimony is often given in court, despite oath-takings. You don't have the historic analogue to demonstrate that oaths were routinely kept. You only have evidence for admonishment for oath-breaking. But anyone who only has access to a court record would similarly be impressed by how high we value oaths, because the oath-giver is reminded immediately that oath-breaking will be punished severely. An outside observer with very limited access to other sociologic data migh similarlyt look at a group of a thousand new physicians reciting their oath in unison (as I did) and conclude that oaths have special significance to this culture. What evidence would you need to deny it? What evidence could support that idea? Do we have that sort of evidence for Germanic peoples of old?
Valuable content, thank Scott. I regret failing to uphold an oath i made twice at blots. Still working on it
Then you haven't broken the oath! It's still in progress! Thanks, Tom!
Just speaking of the southern U.S., the concept has survived. I don't know how many times I heard, "a man is only as good as his word" when I was growing up. In a small town, the social consequences of breaking your word were real. It's still like that in many rural communities, although unfortunately it's in decline.
As an Anthropology student with a love for early medieval history, I eat this shit up. Please do more of these type videos.
26:05 "You break an oath, you're dead to me" Lol you sounded like a mob boss the way you said that.
Ahaha well, it's true! That statement was even aimed at a couple people who might stumble across this video. They know who they are ;)
This is honestly why I don’t make many oaths or promises, because when I do I want you to understand the significance of what I’m doing/saying. They are not to be taken lightly. I keep my actions in every day life consistent enough to not require them for the small things.
Absolutely, and yes starting small is the way to go, start small tribes/communities and create a healthier life for us and future generations to come.
Exactly!
I'm glad you're still making videos.
Glad you enjoyed it!
I hate to find a new channel that I really like, only to discover the creator hasn't posted a new video in a year. I hope you come back soon.
Great stuff, thanks
The necessity of mixing blood (or something) goes back to sympathetic magic ideas, that this would magically connect the two people so that their fortunes would be bound together, and so harm to one would harm the other. Also, the Germanic people, and many PIE people (and other cultures), believed that words could literally bind the world. Therefore, if you committed to an oath and did not keep it, the world itself would find a way to punish you (or existence itself, or whatever).
Makes a lot of sense.
Doesn't go vack to "sympathetic magic" it goes back to the biblical concepts that all Noah's children took with them after the ark and into each nation that they founded.
That being that the soul is connected with the blood, and a blood covenant, or mi going on blood makes the 2 souls united as one.
You were not supposed to drink the blood so wine was a symbolic covenant drink (though later blood was dropped in and later pagans straight up drank just blood).
Other blood covenants involved shedding of animal blood in sacrafice....or breaking of a woman's "blood" virginity in sexual union for a marriage covenant.
@@mr.sherrill9137
Your Jewish ethnocentric fairy tales have no power here. They are not relevant.
It does karmaticly bind a person based not only on magic arts but genetics and frequency. Research has proven that vibration and words can change an epi genetic code. I think it’s intriguing to think that the oath stated in the father language created a vibration onto the family lineage through the dna code.
The mixing of blood also would change the epi genetics by introducing something foreign. It’s a huge reason why, btw certain religions refuse blood transfusions….they believe it changes their fate.
Very interesting insight!
Great to see you back Scott esp with JC even doing a Saxon video recently - he’s on your ranch!
It’s just whatever. Let him do his thing. Our audiences are different. He keeps the layman entertained. My videos are meant to have a lasting impact upon people who want to DO something with the information provided.
I had my own experience as an oathbreaker.
When i was a kid, i was at a baseball game in town, and i was so hungry but had no money. I promised to help clean up after the game for some food. Well, i had my food, and then i left and went home.
Well i lived in a small town so they knew who i was and where i lived so the concession owner showed at my house, told my mom what happened and was told to go with her and help like i promised.
Even though i did do it. The loss of trust as a consequence of my actions still sits with me all these years later. And i learned that a man is only as good as his word is trusted.
I don't look at this is as a negative experience. You still fulfilled your oath, even if your parents had to get involved as a kid.
You learned from this.
PS did u see JC new video he interviews an expert in pre latin alpine alphabets and she says there was a cult of writing in some of these groups in pre roman North Italy but no inscriptions by individuals in this manner, as opposed to Runic discoveries which she understands why they could be interpreted that way ie magical! His face glazes over and he says that is interesting! Cheers from Mercia
I tend to avoid his videos. Speaking of troth and pledge, he broke that with me a long time ago.
Who is JC?
@@Noeaskr Nobody important
@@Noeaskr Jesus christ no Sorry Jackson Crawford Norse channel on YT. Cheers from Angleland
@@scottt.shellcontinentalger2464 I’d be curious to know what happened between you two. I guessed you might have known each other from Berkeley.
Our views on the power of the Oath align entirely, Scott. Thanks SO much for releasing this video.
Not a problem at all. I'm glad you enjoyed.
Thank you for this video and all the research! Oaths mean a lot to me. I take them VERY seriously. I've only made one oath to odin. It was on the last full moon of the year in 2021. I took an oath to not drink any booze all 2022. I managed to achieve it! I haven't been able to think up another worthy & realistic one. Making a life long oath scares the shit out of me and If I made one; I'd make damn sure I could keep it. But if the oath is TOO easy to keep; I think it defeats the purpose a little bit. That's my two cents anyway :) Thanks again mate!
I'm 100% with you on this. Great job fulfilling that oath! I'm sure it wasn't easy.
@@scottt.shellcontinentalger2464 Thanks; it wasn't, but now that I've done that I have far more control over my drinking than I ever have. I've found that through sacrificing to the gods, ancestors and land spirits; that there is as much benefit to myself and my personal growth than there is to the entities that I'm offering to. (not animals obviously >_< but bits of food and other things of value) It's hard to offer up a whole half bottle of whiskey. I'm nowhere near rich! I believe that I've become a much less materialistic person since doing these things. And this segways back into oaths. People back in the day valued oaths much more over some rich lord or king that came along and tried to buy them off. Values, ethics, principles and morals. These things end up meaning so much more when you're not tied to materials.
Severely underrated channel. A true treasure in Heathenry.
Valuable content, thank you
If an Oath requires work, so be it. He is defined by it. She will be judged from it. It is never broken so as long as He and She do not quit.
Excellent video!
Great video
Best not to swear an oath if you have no intention to keep it …
That looks like an AFA pin...based?
Does the group name Sviar have anything to do with swine eaters?
have the Hati ever been conflated with the hate wolf of fenrir?
Not that I'm aware of. I'm also not sure how Fenrir would fit into the picture. MAYBE, albeit very unlikely, you could make an argument for "hateful ones," but it doesn't have anything to do with Fenrir.
I believe it must be essential in the natural order of things that the only permissible reason to break an oath is exploitation and abuse of that trust!
Chrisholm - 110.
I know that Odin swore an oath on a ring,
How shall his troth be trusted?
He robbed Suttung and took his sumble.
To Gunnloth he brought sorrow
The saying today is, its not a lie if you dont get caught.
Bring back love, the world needs it
Since when did the world have more love in the past than it does now?
@@WestlehSeyweld Unfortunately, Love has become a buzzword used by folks that want to push whatever sort of agenda they have, attaching it to an otherwise beautiful emotion. Love should be reserved for special people, family, life partners, close friends, etc. To reduce love a wholesale value is to depreciate it's value and meaning, which is far worse than not seeing enough love just freely spread amongst the world.
Find it within your own local tribe, kin, and family first. Like I said, the only way to have any impact regarding the oath is to build it from the ground up.
This video is weirdly replete with social commentary that doesn't sound academically sound. It's quite the stretch to argue that promise-keeping was valued more in a historical society based on written accounts, which condemn oath-breaking, with the claim that oaths given today are commonly broken.
You go in with the bias that today, oaths are broken only because in your experience false testimony is often given in court, despite oath-takings.
You don't have the historic analogue to demonstrate that oaths were routinely kept. You only have evidence for admonishment for oath-breaking.
But anyone who only has access to a court record would similarly be impressed by how high we value oaths, because the oath-giver is reminded immediately that oath-breaking will be punished severely.
An outside observer with very limited access to other sociologic data migh similarlyt look at a group of a thousand new physicians reciting their oath in unison (as I did) and conclude that oaths have special significance to this culture.
What evidence would you need to deny it? What evidence could support that idea? Do we have that sort of evidence for Germanic peoples of old?