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Maybe what you also need to consider is which back swing is more comfortable for you and more importantly which back swing can let you prep fastest before the forward swing. For me, I prefer an easier way to prep faster, which is naturally letting the arm bent a bit as opposed to straightening the arm.
I agree, D. Theim's method of hitting the one handed backhand with straight arm is more better and give good consistency because it does not give any extra momentum to the ball which can get generated when the bent elbow becomes straight, hence the hard hitting on the ball can be avoided and the focus can be kept only in generating the top spin on the ball.
Wow this improved my BH immediately. Very consistent and clean power. I think the only time I will use more of a bent elbow is for approach shots as we need the flexibility to hit the ball with spin and pace (and the right finesse) at a shorter distance since we’re closer to the net. Thoughts on that?
Totally agree. I try hard to have a straight arm for the reasons you give. My family is naturally prone to getting tennis elbow and I'm pretty sure a straight arm stops the friction on the tendon that comes from straightening into the shot. Straight arm is simpler - mathematically so, from a complexity of mechanics - and so is more consistent. Also, bending the arm can lead to opening the face on the backswing - ie 'opening the face' - which is another complication a club player just doesn't want (irrespective of how easily Roger dealt with it)
One of your best lessons. Very clear teaching. I like your method: back hand to back knee! I going to my TopSpin Pro right now to try this. What does your right wrist do at ball impact? Stay bent or straighten (flatten out)?
@@glenross3093 wow thank you so much!! The wrist will flatten as the racket drops to the face closes. That’s how you spin up the ball up the ball for topspin. Don’t think of flattening the wrist at contact. But rather, flatten the wrist as the racket drops to the left knee so that the face closes to allow a low to high swing impart topspin. Thanks!!
Some say if you go too much low to high with the arm you loose power, it should be done with the legs mostly which you are also doing here. Using the topspin pro may reduce power. Maybe.
I personally don't like this method it's too stiff and rigid. I prefer the Rodger Federer method versus The Dominic Theim method. But do whatever works for you.
Mouratoglou’s technique is with arm bent and this is how it’s done : ua-cam.com/video/gfAP3CaVUug/v-deo.htmlsi=qOuNSqBq92XDZFGT I really benefited from his technique. Works for me very well…
@@danhogan7156Yes because he claims that straight arm is preferable to bent elbow. I pointed out that it’s not a shared opinion by Mouratoglou. Also most big one backhander players do bend the elbow. There must be a good reason for that don’t you think ?
@@robertl.6919 The best single handed backhand is Wawrinka. I never paid attention to this aspect before. It appears Wawrinka has a straight arm long before he hits the ball. As the arm crosses the body the arm straightens. The bad technique seen here with 2MinuteTennis example is the arm does not straighten till the it hits the ball which makes it more like a flick. 2MinuteTennis does a take back with a straight arm but Wawrinka does not but Wawrinka's arm gets straight immediately after. ua-cam.com/users/shorts2ZpVLep6qcM
@ Well good example. You can clearly see that his right elbow is bent when his left hand pulls the racket back. Fed, Dimitrov and Gasquet the same. None of them pulls the racket back with a straight elbow like Thiem does. That’s what Mouratoglou teaches in my example. They all use the added acceleration from the straightening of the elbow combined with shoulder rotation to hit with a straight arm. That is the whole point of the bent elbow.
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Maybe what you also need to consider is which back swing is more comfortable for you and more importantly which back swing can let you prep fastest before the forward swing.
For me, I prefer an easier way to prep faster, which is naturally letting the arm bent a bit as opposed to straightening the arm.
I agree, D. Theim's method of hitting the one handed backhand with straight arm is more better and give good consistency because it does not give any extra momentum to the ball which can get generated when the bent elbow becomes straight, hence the hard hitting on the ball can be avoided and the focus can be kept only in generating the top spin on the ball.
This was literally my issue. Thank you! I’m practicing the down to up motion in the backhand for top spin
@@peerguy so glad to hear this video will help you!
Wow this improved my BH immediately. Very consistent and clean power. I think the only time I will use more of a bent elbow is for approach shots as we need the flexibility to hit the ball with spin and pace (and the right finesse) at a shorter distance since we’re closer to the net. Thoughts on that?
Always excellent Coach! 💪🎾💯
That's exactly my problem. I always wonder why my backhand has no topspin. Will give it a try next time to stretch my hand back.
Totally agree. I try hard to have a straight arm for the reasons you give. My family is naturally prone to getting tennis elbow and I'm pretty sure a straight arm stops the friction on the tendon that comes from straightening into the shot. Straight arm is simpler - mathematically so, from a complexity of mechanics - and so is more consistent. Also, bending the arm can lead to opening the face on the backswing - ie 'opening the face' - which is another complication a club player just doesn't want (irrespective of how easily Roger dealt with it)
One of your best lessons. Very clear teaching. I like your method: back hand to back knee! I going to my TopSpin Pro right now to try this. What does your right wrist do at ball impact? Stay bent or straighten (flatten out)?
@@glenross3093 wow thank you so much!! The wrist will flatten as the racket drops to the face closes. That’s how you spin up the ball up the ball for topspin. Don’t think of flattening the wrist at contact. But rather, flatten the wrist as the racket drops to the left knee so that the face closes to allow a low to high swing impart topspin. Thanks!!
@2MinuteTennis Thanks so much Ryan for answering my wrist question!
@@glenross3093 happy to help Glen!
Yep makes sense. I've been using bent arm but doesn't feel very solid. Going to try out straight arm
Some say if you go too much low to high with the arm you loose power, it should be done with the legs mostly which you are also doing here. Using the topspin pro may reduce power. Maybe.
Straight or bent, depends which pro player u like more. 😉
excellent topic. thanks
Hey thanks so much!!
Far more important is rotation of upper arm at the shoulder level.
Yeah
Justine Henin was neither bent "L" or straight, slight bend in racket arm
I personally don't like this method it's too stiff and rigid. I prefer the Rodger Federer method versus The Dominic Theim method. But do whatever works for you.
@@Deryee123 thanks for your thoughts!
Mouratoglou’s technique is with arm bent and this is how it’s done :
ua-cam.com/video/gfAP3CaVUug/v-deo.htmlsi=qOuNSqBq92XDZFGT
I really benefited from his technique. Works for me very well…
@@robertl.6919 I’m well aware of what he teaches.
But the kid he showing as an example is doing it in the way described here. Straight arm.
@@danhogan7156Yes because he claims that straight arm is preferable to bent elbow. I pointed out that it’s not a shared opinion by Mouratoglou. Also most big one backhander players do bend the elbow. There must be a good reason for that don’t you think ?
@@robertl.6919 The best single handed backhand is Wawrinka. I never paid attention to this aspect before. It appears Wawrinka has a straight arm long before he hits the ball. As the arm crosses the body the arm straightens. The bad technique seen here with 2MinuteTennis example is the arm does not straighten till the it hits the ball which makes it more like a flick. 2MinuteTennis does a take back with a straight arm but Wawrinka does not but Wawrinka's arm gets straight immediately after. ua-cam.com/users/shorts2ZpVLep6qcM
@ Well good example. You can clearly see that his right elbow is bent when his left hand pulls the racket back. Fed, Dimitrov and Gasquet the same. None of them pulls the racket back with a straight elbow like Thiem does. That’s what Mouratoglou teaches in my example. They all use the added acceleration from the straightening of the elbow combined with shoulder rotation to hit with a straight arm. That is the whole point of the bent elbow.