Why does Ontario publicly fund Catholic school boards? Here’s a brief history

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  • The debate around whether Ontario should have a publicly funded Catholic school system was renewed after the York Catholic District Board voted not to raise the Pride flag at its education centre this week. So, why does Ontario fund Catholic school boards? Marivel Taruc explores the history behind the two-tiered system.
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  • @jptrainor
    @jptrainor Рік тому +19

    When I voted in my last municipal election, I was required to declare, out loud, at the polling station desk, which school board I supported before they could hand me a ballot. Which I thought was ridiculous.

    • @jptrainor
      @jptrainor Рік тому +6

      @seandowney6216 Yes, I sent an email to the local election and they explained it to me. Nevertheless, I don't remember ever before having to declare aloud my school board affiliation. Personally, I found it quite objectionable. It felt like a violation of the principle of blind/secret voting since one must publicly announce a personal affiliation in order to get a ballot.

    • @firefox39693
      @firefox39693 Рік тому

      Why still no response?

    • @jadealexander8233
      @jadealexander8233 Рік тому +1

      @Socialism SucksCorrect me if I'm wrong, but I think Jim is saying it really shouldn't be a thing period. We don't want an explanation from the stand point of it exists, so here's how it works. We want it not to have to be part of the process.

  • @markg7508
    @markg7508 Рік тому +25

    Church should pay for its own school system. End of story

    • @AZ-bp5zo
      @AZ-bp5zo Рік тому +2

      We do through are taxes!

    • @jeanbolduc5818
      @jeanbolduc5818 Рік тому

      Canada should be laic ... no religious sign

    • @johnnygoodman2003
      @johnnygoodman2003 Рік тому +1

      ​@@AZ-bp5zo no. I pay for Catholic school and I'm not Catholic. I don't want to pay for something I don't support

    • @AZ-bp5zo
      @AZ-bp5zo Рік тому +1

      @@johnnygoodman2003 Dido

    • @johnnygoodman2003
      @johnnygoodman2003 Рік тому

      @@AZ-bp5zo 👍

  • @levnazarov
    @levnazarov Рік тому +22

    Sounds like a payback for not flying the flag.

    • @Alowolodu
      @Alowolodu Рік тому +4

      Yes it is. Catholic School Boards are getting cancelled, that's scary.

    • @johnnygoodman2003
      @johnnygoodman2003 Рік тому

      Where is the payback for Catholic school killing half million native children.

    • @Meyers1793
      @Meyers1793 Рік тому

      Publicly-funded Catholic schools should have been abolished decades ago, the recent flag debate is just ne example why they should be defunded.

  • @SuperStratosfear
    @SuperStratosfear Рік тому +2

    As a taxpayer that doesn't share the government's beliefs I believe that my tax dollars shouldn't pay for public school boards.

  • @thomasross6974
    @thomasross6974 Рік тому +9

    Cuz it's better quality education...everyone knows that.

    • @johnnygoodman2003
      @johnnygoodman2003 Рік тому

      it's funny for anyone to hear Catholics call gays "pedophiles" when the catholic church and Catholic school system have spent millions to hide the pedophile crimes of priests and teachers. The severity and mass recurrence and obstruction of justice in the Catholic community should legally allow canada to cause all Catholic institutions to loser their religious status.

  • @SnowWhite-hr4ho
    @SnowWhite-hr4ho Рік тому +23

    I send my kid to a catholic school and we are not catholic. They were great for the most and supportive of his learning disability.

  • @goodnight360
    @goodnight360 Рік тому +36

    there should always be a seperation between church and state. using government funds for religious schools should be illegal. why should my taxes go towards religion when i myself don't believe in religion.

    • @GJhg-zj3xk
      @GJhg-zj3xk Рік тому

      Are you joking? Do you think other people believe in your intersectional racism LGBTQABCDE+ nonsense? Yet my taxes go towards that. Grow up.

    • @SnowWhite-hr4ho
      @SnowWhite-hr4ho Рік тому

      Religious people have rights just like atheists do.

    • @mck59er
      @mck59er Рік тому

      Your tax dollars go towards lots of things you probably don't believe in. Wake up!!

    • @momtur4875
      @momtur4875 Рік тому +4

      You are 100 % right

    • @StonedViper
      @StonedViper Рік тому +8

      I agree. And why should my tax dollars go to public transportation or libraries when i don't use them. Make everything user pay.

  • @jadealexander8233
    @jadealexander8233 Рік тому +3

    I think all schools should be publicly funded. Education should be just as accesible as Health care. Everyone deserves decent education, and a decent chance of making something for themself. Don't punish kids for your political agendas.

    • @Meyers1793
      @Meyers1793 Рік тому +4

      The public should not fund ANY religious schools. Separation of Church and State.

    • @isaacorganist
      @isaacorganist 20 днів тому

      Found the American.​@@Meyers1793

  • @susanb4816
    @susanb4816 Рік тому +11

    Catholic schools were not government funded until the 1970s so idk why she keeps saying 1867

    • @jordanwilkins5965
      @jordanwilkins5965 Рік тому +1

      Its the CBC they neither share facts or news

    • @Meyers1793
      @Meyers1793 Рік тому

      Catholic schools were publicly funded up to grade 10 (I think it was 10), but it has only been since the 1970s or 1980s that they have been funded all the way to OAC, now grade 12.

    • @susanb4816
      @susanb4816 Рік тому +1

      @@Meyers1793 i was born in 1960. I did not go to catholic school because it was not free in toronto (riverdale)

  • @HuskerFox
    @HuskerFox Рік тому +9

    That sneeze at 1:55 was epic. The music didn't cover it at all🤣😂

  • @christiand1244
    @christiand1244 Рік тому +8

    Finally, someone showing courage in Canada to stand up for what’s right.
    Good job York Catholic school board.
    You can’t bring down the Catholic school board based off a couple people whining, because parents know if it’s the only sane education their kids are going to get today. The alternative is homeschooling. You’ll end up getting like 3 kids at a public school hehe the hippie teacher and the kids whose parents hate them.

  • @TheRandomView
    @TheRandomView Рік тому +20

    DEFUND Catholic Schools! One school board for all. Or pay for private. Two boards is a waste of money.

    • @thesweetone
      @thesweetone Рік тому

      My taxes go to catholic schools. Defund you, your family, your profession

  • @jadealexander8233
    @jadealexander8233 Рік тому +5

    I went to Catholic school in Canada and there is very little Catholicism being pushed in the school. The focus is on education and not the Catholic faith.

    • @Ucantfindme2247
      @Ucantfindme2247 Рік тому +1

      Very true it is watered down to accommodate all people

    • @acdc30450
      @acdc30450 Рік тому +3

      I would take Catholicism over marxism any day of the week.

    • @johnnygoodman2003
      @johnnygoodman2003 Рік тому

      After killing all the native children there isn't much else about Catholicism you need to know

    • @steventalik4782
      @steventalik4782 Рік тому +3

      That is such a lie. I went to a catholic school in Ontario and wow the propaganda was insane. They make you read the bible in grade 9 and my religious teacher told the whole class you are going to hell if you masturbate. That teacher literally disappeared the next year. Grade 12 religion was the worst they pushed all there political ideology onto you. At the time I was just a high school student and I believe everything they told me. As I went to university and got an actual education I realize what these religious teacher are doing. We are literally publicly funding to push catholic ideology onto grade 12.

    • @steventalik4782
      @steventalik4782 Рік тому

      @Smozzle19 the courses at university teach you actual anatomy, real research data and not based on opinions. I build my own opinion based on what I learned. Grade 12 was all opinion based information where they tell you what is right or wrong. Catholic are clearly indoctrinating your kids.

  • @cgash1
    @cgash1 Рік тому +19

    People are getting sick of hearing about these alphabet soup people.

    • @bradcanning875
      @bradcanning875 Рік тому

      People are sick of hearing from you haters who always have the most perverted secrets and end up getting caught trying to do the babysitter.

    • @AZ-bp5zo
      @AZ-bp5zo Рік тому +1

      Alphabet people are the nazis 2.0.

    • @Dark_Force_Of_Wishes
      @Dark_Force_Of_Wishes Рік тому +1

      ​@@AZ-bp5zo The Nazis Were As Far Right As Possible. I'd Say The Alphabet Soup People Are Communists 2.0

  • @Harris-un5qq
    @Harris-un5qq 10 місяців тому +1

    Why not? Binary Christian tax payers are funding LGBTQ+2 and Muslim kids at school too.

  • @acdc30450
    @acdc30450 Рік тому +5

    As someone who worked in education for a number of years, believe me when I tell you that your kids are in much better hands in the catholic school board than in the public school boards run by marxists. Even if you are not religious, if you care about having an objective and balanced education system fight like hell to keep funding for the catholic boards. In regards to not flying the pride flag, section 2(A) of the Canadian Charter of rights and freedoms guarantees Canadians the right to freedom of religion and freedom of conscious.

    • @ahhmm5381
      @ahhmm5381 Рік тому

      'Run by Marxists'.... what do you mean?

    • @steventalik4782
      @steventalik4782 Рік тому

      As someone who was in the Catholic schools system from kindergarten to grade 12 I have to disagree. In grade 12 political catholic ideology was being taught. Only one sided perspective on different topics and this is publicly funded. I didn’t chose to be in a catholic school my parents force me to be in one.

    • @steventalik4782
      @steventalik4782 Рік тому

      You are also force to take religion class every year in high school. I wanted to take an algebra course in grade 12 but I couldn’t because I already took all science, math and computer science you can take except algebra. You have to take English, because that is what university looks at but I couldn’t take algebra because I was force to take grade 12 religion that forces catholic ideology about society topics down your throat.

    • @steventalik4782
      @steventalik4782 Рік тому

      @RanStuff Grade 11 world religion. But, there was grade 9, 10, 12 religion class that was specific for catholic religion. What province are you from? I wanted to take it during summer time so I can take algebra but they didn’t offer it, they make you take it during school term.

    • @Meyers1793
      @Meyers1793 Рік тому

      Imagine thinking CATHOLIC SCHOOLS provide an objective and balanced education. LOLOL GTFOH.

  • @discerningdilemmas4680
    @discerningdilemmas4680 Рік тому +8

    Why don’t we merge all school boards with representatives from each school with a core curriculum? We need more money spent on students and not administrators 🤨🤨💔🇨🇦

    • @acdc30450
      @acdc30450 Рік тому

      Like hell we want the communists who run the TDSB to educate all of the kids in our province.

    • @danielchaput884
      @danielchaput884 Рік тому

      Because to the Left, it would mean Catholic schools would have a say. It's why they want to do this.
      It doesn't help that this would be Toronto dictating the defunding of the Catholic schools to the Northern countryside, which has more Catholic schools than in Toronto. And the French Canadians, which most of them send their own kids to Catholic schools would be screwed over by Toronto, again.

  • @social3ngin33rin
    @social3ngin33rin Рік тому +2

    damn, a formal amendment >_>
    good luck to everyone D:

  • @danny7954
    @danny7954 4 місяці тому

    This funding will have to end at some point. Soon I hope.

  • @DavidSmith-in5if
    @DavidSmith-in5if Рік тому +6

    Interesting article. It’s in the Constitution exactly to protect a minority, Catholics, who, with apparently good reason worried that the majority would take away their ability to educate their own children.

    • @CantHandleThisCanYa
      @CantHandleThisCanYa Рік тому +1

      No one has ever stopped a parent from educating their child in their own home. Religion ONLY belongs in your brain, in your house, and in your church. It belongs nowhere else. Your delusions need to be kept private.

    • @bradcanning875
      @bradcanning875 Рік тому +2

      We don't have a constitution.

    • @leilaabouzeenni3580
      @leilaabouzeenni3580 Рік тому +3

      Now we have so many different minorities, we don't have a distinct majority, it doesn't make sense to keep this school board. It would be impossible to give each minority their own school board. So the best plan of action is to give everyone the same.

    • @jeanbolduc5818
      @jeanbolduc5818 Рік тому +1

      Religion is a personal choice ...education is not personal a society needs schools ... no religion sign is the solution

    • @bradcanning875
      @bradcanning875 Рік тому +1

      @Smozzle19 We have a Charter of Rights and Freedoms. You must have gone to Trump's school.

  • @stoephead
    @stoephead Рік тому +3

    ontario should publicly fund all school boards. Ontario is trying to minimize it's responsibility towards education and this discussion, causing resentment can only cause resentment that will facilitate unrest. Why does Ontario insist on copying issues from south of the border?

    • @msmichelle2196
      @msmichelle2196 Рік тому

      Some schools don't want funding which is right because they have full autonomy..... American has the right idea because they understand some systems don't want to be compromised.... Canada is passive and they are upset about many of these things cuz they don't understand how the systems work, anytime you take something from someone you owe them it's a principal of life and that will never change.... specialized schools that are being created in Canada are not taking funds so they can keep morals, values, policies that they desire instead of it being political like it is under public funded systems

  • @acdc30450
    @acdc30450 Рік тому +1

    Section 2(A) of the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms guarantees freedom of religion and freedom of conscience. Section 2(B) of the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms guarantees freedom of thought, belief, opinion, and expression.

    • @johnnygoodman2003
      @johnnygoodman2003 Рік тому +2

      Great. When do we start paying for Jewish and Muslim schools. ??? Freedom doesn't mean my tax dollars have to pay for it.

    • @danielchaput884
      @danielchaput884 Рік тому

      @@johnnygoodman2003 Are you sending your kids to Catholic school? No? Then they don't.

    • @Meyers1793
      @Meyers1793 Рік тому

      Defunding catholic school is not a violation of Section 2(a) because that section does not provide a right to publicly-funded religious education.

  • @HAL-su8uc
    @HAL-su8uc Рік тому

    Tax-payers should not be forced to support religious oppression.

  • @pocahontasseguinart7099
    @pocahontasseguinart7099 11 місяців тому

    All those schools mistreated my grandmother . She was badly abused.

  • @marlapineda9049
    @marlapineda9049 Рік тому

    I went to a Catholic school and it was Hell. I have psychological problems to deal with because of that. I didn’t understand why I should learn the teachings of the church and I don’t understand the Catholic faith. I don’t understand the Bible either. I went through Hell all my life. When I was a kid I didn’t want to go to church, I wanted to play outside or read a book. As a teenager I became irreligious, loved listening to music and watching videos about celebrities.

  • @winghoy8277
    @winghoy8277 Рік тому +1

    Money

  • @AeiSedai1976
    @AeiSedai1976 Рік тому +6

    And it must END the practice asap😊

  • @zochbuppet448
    @zochbuppet448 Рік тому

    Cant hear as the music is more important than what the reported is saying. CBC is now hiring 20 year old UA-cam video makers to edit its video
    Its not about the content as with everything on youtube the background music is more important.

  • @troyzieman7177
    @troyzieman7177 Рік тому +6

    I am an atheist . So I think any religious funding of schools is inherently flawed . However , the timing of this discussion is interesting to say the least . They won't fly the Pride flag so we are talking about defunding them . I am against flying the Pride flag at schools for the same reason I don't like religious schools .
    I have a crazy idea , how about schools teach kids the skills like writing , reading , math ....I know it's old fashioned but maybe don't have ideological agendas

    • @jeanbolduc5818
      @jeanbolduc5818 Рік тому +1

      So you are against any religious sign ....

    • @Meyers1793
      @Meyers1793 Рік тому

      Education always has an ideological agenda. People have been talking about defunding Catholic schools for decades, the recent flag debate just illustrates why it needs to happen.

    • @Maxmulham
      @Maxmulham Рік тому

      Completely agree as someone who is not religious myself. The CBC are still butthurt over the flag issue so they'll do a story like this.

    • @troyzieman7177
      @troyzieman7177 Рік тому

      @@Maxmulham I have no problem with how people want to live . I just don't want it all shoved down my throat . Schools are failing kids on providing the skill sets they need

  • @mikemeigs6862
    @mikemeigs6862 Рік тому

    U want to get mad at someone on behalf of the indigenous community get mad at peta who destroyed tgere fur trade so they had to look for help Instead of thriving like they were

    • @johnnygoodman2003
      @johnnygoodman2003 Рік тому +1

      Residential school killed nearly a half million indigenous children. You are comparing that to peta????

  • @scasey1960
    @scasey1960 Рік тому

    There’s no separation of church & state outside the US

    • @jeanbolduc5818
      @jeanbolduc5818 Рік тому

      Quebec is laic ..no religion at school, municipalities and government

    • @georgek3398
      @georgek3398 Місяць тому

      You got that back to front

  • @thatonesqueakerkid4975
    @thatonesqueakerkid4975 11 місяців тому

    I am a Catholic and I have attended Catholic schools my whole life, I am in my 2nd last year of high school . I pray, I attend my church, read my bible, pray some more. I don't believe schools should push agendas. From experience Catholic schools are not pushing any agendas down kids throats. They teach them the bible and how to read it but they also teach them about Islam, Buddhism and other religions. They teach them Catholic values (which in my opinion are every humans' foundation of morals) So I find it quite shocking to hear that people want to defund a Catholic school board. Just because you don't want your kids to learn some good morals, doesn't mean you have to destroy it for everyone else because if I grow up in a nation without these schools. I am homeschooling

  • @jasonbenoit2277
    @jasonbenoit2277 Рік тому +2

    Would love to have Stephen Lecce pull the plug on Catholic education. I am a Catholic educator. The Catholic system as it is now, does nothing but serve the interests of the government.

    • @johnnygoodman2003
      @johnnygoodman2003 Рік тому

      And the catholic school staff embezzled all the money.

  • @mrsuperger5429
    @mrsuperger5429 Рік тому

    The Vatican is a foreign country, one of the richest on the planet. Why are Canadian taxpayers paying for another country's education system.? Do they also pick up the tab for German or Spanish schools.? If not, why not.?

  • @Brian-dg3gh
    @Brian-dg3gh Рік тому

    Pull the funding for all the schools and let them all be private, then give parents school vouchers.

  • @pavel0900
    @pavel0900 11 місяців тому

    Seems like the only schools still worth funding in Ontario these days. I would not send my kids to a public school. #1Mmarch4children

  • @buglenny
    @buglenny Рік тому +9

    U mad because there not pushing the agenda

    • @CantHandleThisCanYa
      @CantHandleThisCanYa Рік тому +1

      We are mad because Catholics have the highest rate of molesting children. Putting children in a school run by a bunch of molesters is probably not a good idea

  • @djayjp
    @djayjp Рік тому

    Public money for public schools, period.

    • @jeanbolduc5818
      @jeanbolduc5818 Рік тому +1

      Ban religious sign in school ...meaning hijab as well

    • @djayjp
      @djayjp Рік тому

      @@jeanbolduc5818 Well especially teachers

    • @danielchaput884
      @danielchaput884 Рік тому

      @@djayjp what of the North that has lots of lower class kids from French Canadian homes, with schools that are packed with about 20-30 kids in a classroom? About a third of them would be able to afford the education for all their kids, and the rest in already crammed public school classes? Ready to have 50 kids in an already crammed public school classroom?

    • @djayjp
      @djayjp Рік тому

      @@danielchaput884 Convert religious and private schools to public upon banning them.

  • @test40323
    @test40323 Рік тому +1

    Disappointingly the YCDSB fail to stand against hate, embrace tolerance, acceptance and love leaving minority children vulnerable in this divisive political climate. Not offering sanctuary and safety of the minority betrays the spirit under which charter rights granted the Catholics school board's existence.