Now this makes sense. Totally understand the poke comment, understand now. Honestly there are 4 great set ups if youre lucky to to get the azerite traits for them, can have top damage for all situations. Like the storm bursts to the 100 instant lava bursts.
Is it worth taking natural harmony traits if you are not running icefury? Should you drop a non empowered frost shock to maintain the buff if you are not using icefury and still took the trait? Great guide and exactly what I was hoping to find.
Benthic boots are completely BiS. I got a pair of 450 socketed bracers that don't surpass the 425 socketed benthic bracers, so they are basically BiS as well. I just got the gloves socketed as well and those are a bit more even with other loot, but generally 1% extra damage it seems like. Just throwing my support behind these claims for all to see.
I still use 420 Head and Chest Piece, the raid pieces I have had so far, are complete garbage compared to them. I find it disappointing though, how bad the traits are on most raid pieces, apart from the shoulders from the first boss, which I'm wearing.
@@aelorgames2627 - Also big RNG right. Almost all the good drops for Elemental come from the first 3 bosses. There is only like the one Azerite head from Queen's court that's anything really worthwhile from Ashvane to Azshara. And that ain't too fun either. I don't really have high hopes about our slow raid progress for a bunch of useless bosses for me. Regarding Ele though, I think the shoulders from first boss, chest from second (Radiance) and head from Queen's court is fine for azerite luck from a raid. 3 igneous, 1 NH, 1 undulating tides and 1 SS.
@@MrZeuz666 I haven't been lucky with them for me to drop though did get other azerite gear, and they were ready for the thrashbin :-D . I still do ok with the other pieces, but obviously I'd do better with 430+ head and chest piece :-D . I do have the trinks from the first and second boss though (HC), so am quite happy wiith those. We aim to do first 3 bosses on Mythic soon as well.
Am coming back to bfa after leaving when azar dalor raid came out. So thats quite a while. Truth be told am kinda lost. Bin getting some essences and am on the new islands but gold to see this guide and love that its so i depth. U plannning on doing these also for 8.3? And shadowlands?
Is there an addon that shows which gear is better regardless of il? For example I see ppl using a I'll 400 over 430 bc its better... how can you tell which outweighs which??
Amazing video! Good to have most info in one place. What I would still like to know (in a future video or through comments) is the traits for the Vision of perfection build, and how to best utilize the shiver venom relic trinket? I'm not sure it's worthwhile using it in m+/aoe.
So like, regarding the vision-build, would the top sim still use 3 igneous traits? Or would getting rid of all igneous traits in exchange for more stat traits like blightborne, natural harmony, synapse shock, ancestral resonance and lava shock be better? Changing rotation and using earthen rage instead would seem to make the build smoother and maybe more efficient.
Don't know about the traits for vision yet, but likely the same as the other build but without IP. As for the trinket, use it at 5 stacks as often as you can, in m+ if a pack is dying fast just use on the target with the highest stacks before they die
@@Naesam "Without IP", Oke. Sounds like what I was suggesting I guess. And been using the trinket sort of like that. You think Shiver is worth it in m+? When you could use like the Ashvane trinket or some titanforged m+ trinket? Thanks for the response! :)
great vid. but it took so long, that i figured out all the stuff on my own :D. at least i know now that i did it right. =) thx and keep the good work up
Hey man, great video! But i have one question, i cant get either the empowered elemtals spec or the frost shock spec to do more dps than surge of power on single target. Like im not sure what im doing wrong, when running the frost shock spec, should i try to just press them out or use them as and "end of another cast"? Like casting a LB and at the end pressing frost shock? I obviously use the lava surges procs inbetween but its the hardcasting between im confused about :) Hope it made sense, im really tired over here lmao :D
Brutalitet idk if it’s useful to you this late, or if you’ve already seen it. But he’s got a video link in the description about the Icefury rotation. He goes pretty in depth and the guide really helped me out
Thanks for the guide but, i still don't understand why is not viable to use totem mastery on m+ instead of aftershock. Honestly, I prefer the extra haste, % to cast free lava burst and regenerating per sec of maelstrom, than 25% of refunding the maelstrom used in lava shock and earthquake.
Oh btw, something no one kinda explained to me, but how do you use the shiver venom trinket correctly? Assuming they play different in m+ & raids both would be helpful
Have you tried simming your potion? I'm comparing unbrideled fury to intellect one and in a burst window intellect one sims higher. I think its cause we dont have to many hits on the boss in that burst window.
nice comprehensive guide, but I kinda wish you gave more personal experience and reasoning behind decisions. You pretty much just read the shaman guide and bloodmallet and turned it into a video..
Today I used aftershock as well in our raid, we do heroic runs, not in a mythic raid guild, but it did feel good. There's quite a few fights where a lot of walking is involved, then totems is useless. I do still use 415 head and 415 chest, since I haven't gotten any 430's with Ign.Pot. on it. What you recommend I'd do? This is my profile: worldofwarcraft.com/en-gb/character/eu/lightbringer/kudir . lastly, and I had already thought about that, using the Operation Mechagon Essence, is that really worth it? I admit, I love playing with Ice Fury. But not sure I'm losing DPS using the build I'm playing at the moment. I do love aftershock though, also with master of the elements. Last questions, AoE wise, what I do is, I try to keep FS on 3 mobs, I cast LvB when it's usable, or when it procs, chain lightning, then earthquake. Is it worth it casting (if possible) LvB before CL and also before EQ for MotE, or you don't do that? Or you only buff a Stormkeeper CL, never a normal CL? You only buff the EQ?
Mote EQ>SK CL> Instant CL proc. I wouldn’t hard cast LB for a reg CL because you could be working on another Mote EQ since maelstrom gen on multitarget is high.
That being said if you have like no maelstrom and you get LS with echo talented you might want to LB a CL to not miss another LS opportunity. Especially when you Multi FS. If you are at 30 maelstrom, you may want to hold the LS to after CL because an overload on either will let you Mote EQ
they usually take a couple seconds to become active so you can just stand on the spawn and not get hit, every once in a while it decides to slap you immediately though
Thanks a lot to you and the S,E&L team you guys rock
Now this makes sense. Totally understand the poke comment, understand now. Honestly there are 4 great set ups if youre lucky to to get the azerite traits for them, can have top damage for all situations. Like the storm bursts to the 100 instant lava bursts.
Is it worth taking natural harmony traits if you are not running icefury? Should you drop a non empowered frost shock to maintain the buff if you are not using icefury and still took the trait?
Great guide and exactly what I was hoping to find.
Benthic boots are completely BiS. I got a pair of 450 socketed bracers that don't surpass the 425 socketed benthic bracers, so they are basically BiS as well. I just got the gloves socketed as well and those are a bit more even with other loot, but generally 1% extra damage it seems like. Just throwing my support behind these claims for all to see.
On the good side the bracers you got can be BiS for anything else (m+, PVP, etc).
Eduardo Rodriguez - Yes indeed. ;)
I still use 420 Head and Chest Piece, the raid pieces I have had so far, are complete garbage compared to them. I find it disappointing though, how bad the traits are on most raid pieces, apart from the shoulders from the first boss, which I'm wearing.
@@aelorgames2627 - Also big RNG right. Almost all the good drops for Elemental come from the first 3 bosses. There is only like the one Azerite head from Queen's court that's anything really worthwhile from Ashvane to Azshara. And that ain't too fun either.
I don't really have high hopes about our slow raid progress for a bunch of useless bosses for me.
Regarding Ele though, I think the shoulders from first boss, chest from second (Radiance) and head from Queen's court is fine for azerite luck from a raid. 3 igneous, 1 NH, 1 undulating tides and 1 SS.
@@MrZeuz666 I haven't been lucky with them for me to drop though did get other azerite gear, and they were ready for the thrashbin :-D . I still do ok with the other pieces, but obviously I'd do better with 430+ head and chest piece :-D . I do have the trinks from the first and second boss though (HC), so am quite happy wiith those. We aim to do first 3 bosses on Mythic soon as well.
Awesome guide! Where are those shoulders from?
Am coming back to bfa after leaving when azar dalor raid came out. So thats quite a while. Truth be told am kinda lost. Bin getting some essences and am on the new islands but gold to see this guide and love that its so i depth. U plannning on doing these also for 8.3? And shadowlands?
Yup, I plan to always have an updated ele guide on the channel if I can
Is there an addon that shows which gear is better regardless of il? For example I see ppl using a I'll 400 over 430 bc its better... how can you tell which outweighs which??
Amazing video! Good to have most info in one place.
What I would still like to know (in a future video or through comments) is the traits for the Vision of perfection build, and how to best utilize the shiver venom relic trinket? I'm not sure it's worthwhile using it in m+/aoe.
So like, regarding the vision-build, would the top sim still use 3 igneous traits? Or would getting rid of all igneous traits in exchange for more stat traits like blightborne, natural harmony, synapse shock, ancestral resonance and lava shock be better? Changing rotation and using earthen rage instead would seem to make the build smoother and maybe more efficient.
Don't know about the traits for vision yet, but likely the same as the other build but without IP. As for the trinket, use it at 5 stacks as often as you can, in m+ if a pack is dying fast just use on the target with the highest stacks before they die
@@Naesam
"Without IP", Oke. Sounds like what I was suggesting I guess.
And been using the trinket sort of like that. You think Shiver is worth it in m+? When you could use like the Ashvane trinket or some titanforged m+ trinket?
Thanks for the response! :)
great vid. but it took so long, that i figured out all the stuff on my own :D. at least i know now that i did it right. =) thx and keep the good work up
Thanks alot for this. Great video!
Hey man, great video! But i have one question, i cant get either the empowered elemtals spec or the frost shock spec to do more dps than surge of power on single target. Like im not sure what im doing wrong, when running the frost shock spec, should i try to just press them out or use them as and "end of another cast"? Like casting a LB and at the end pressing frost shock? I obviously use the lava surges procs inbetween but its the hardcasting between im confused about :) Hope it made sense, im really tired over here lmao :D
Brutalitet idk if it’s useful to you this late, or if you’ve already seen it. But he’s got a video link in the description about the Icefury rotation. He goes pretty in depth and the guide really helped me out
Thanks for the guide but, i still don't understand why is not viable to use totem mastery on m+ instead of aftershock. Honestly, I prefer the extra haste, % to cast free lava burst and regenerating per sec of maelstrom, than 25% of refunding the maelstrom used in lava shock and earthquake.
Aftershock is better at AoE but TM is an option that isn't far behind if you prefer it
Oh btw, something no one kinda explained to me, but how do you use the shiver venom trinket correctly?
Assuming they play different in m+ & raids both would be helpful
Use at 5 stacks as often as you can. in dungeons if a pack is about to die just use on the target with the most stacks imo
@@Naesam do you have a good addon/WA to track the stacks on nameplates?
very helpful, thanks!
great vid!! what transmog set you use?
Legion season 1 elite pvp set
Great guide! Thanks
Do you have a macro to drop EQ on target? If so, what is it?
I use /cast [@cursor] Earthquake - it doesnt drop at the target, it drops where your mouse is without the extra click
Naesam got it, thanks!
@naesam hey dude, Im soon gonna hit the 65 neck lvl, any tips for second minor essence? Thanks!
Don't they recommend Worldvein?
@@aelorgames2627 yeah they do on bloodmallet but I saw so many posts regarding thst its bugged and not working as acording..
Thanks you man, u are awesome
Great video but a small piece of advice. Slow down your speech just a small bit so you don't stumble over words.
Have you tried simming your potion? I'm comparing unbrideled fury to intellect one and in a burst window intellect one sims higher. I think its cause we dont have to many hits on the boss in that burst window.
Nice video, but why tauren female? 😄
old question but my guess is because of how close the races are in dmg so they may just like the cow more then a troll/orc.
what's the point of you reading us someone else guide?
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nice comprehensive guide, but I kinda wish you gave more personal experience and reasoning behind decisions. You pretty much just read the shaman guide and bloodmallet and turned it into a video..
I did that more in previous guides this expansion but very little has changed so I wanted to make it a little more to the point this time.
Today I used aftershock as well in our raid, we do heroic runs, not in a mythic raid guild, but it did feel good. There's quite a few fights where a lot of walking is involved, then totems is useless.
I do still use 415 head and 415 chest, since I haven't gotten any 430's with Ign.Pot. on it. What you recommend I'd do?
This is my profile: worldofwarcraft.com/en-gb/character/eu/lightbringer/kudir .
lastly, and I had already thought about that, using the Operation Mechagon Essence, is that really worth it? I admit, I love playing with Ice Fury. But not sure I'm losing DPS using the build I'm playing at the moment.
I do love aftershock though, also with master of the elements.
Last questions, AoE wise, what I do is, I try to keep FS on 3 mobs, I cast LvB when it's usable, or when it procs, chain lightning, then earthquake. Is it worth it casting (if possible) LvB before CL and also before EQ for MotE, or you don't do that? Or you only buff a Stormkeeper CL, never a normal CL? You only buff the EQ?
Mote EQ>SK CL> Instant CL proc. I wouldn’t hard cast LB for a reg CL because you could be working on another Mote EQ since maelstrom gen on multitarget is high.
That being said if you have like no maelstrom and you get LS with echo talented you might want to LB a CL to not miss another LS opportunity. Especially when you Multi FS. If you are at 30 maelstrom, you may want to hold the LS to after CL because an overload on either will let you Mote EQ
This is confusing because it mostly stream of conscious.. It's like he's just rambling.
What mog is that?
legion season 1 elite pvp set
How the fuck are u ignoring radiance tornadoes?
they usually take a couple seconds to become active so you can just stand on the spawn and not get hit, every once in a while it decides to slap you immediately though
Nice level 59 neck sham haha
Is this game fun yet