If someone is sexually predatory towards one woman he will be with others -that IS a safeguarding concern. Sexual assault and harassment is more then an issue with boundaries
@ajons190 it has a management structure, loads of assets revenue, employees, a PR department, a predatory business model & even colludes with government - just like corporations.
Bishop John has the right to innocence until proven guilty and as it stands he has not been proven guilty. There have been several cases in the UK where women have faced legal action for making false allegations of rape or sexual assault. One of the most high-profile recent cases is that of Eleanor Williams from Cumbria. She was convicted in 2023 of perverting the course of justice after falsely claiming she was raped and trafficked, even injuring herself to support her claims. Her accusations had serious consequences for those she accused, including wrongful imprisonment and suicide attempts. We need to acknowledge that such cases exist, although remain rare, studies suggest that 4% of reported sexual violence cases are found or suspected to be false. We need to allow for the law to do what they are made to do before he is prosecuted by the court of public opinion
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Cottrell surely can't continue as lead Archbishop? Poor decision after poor decision. Bishops must also be subject to the same rules of suspension as any other clergy: it really shouldn't be up to a Bishop to step aside voluntarily.
The catholic and Anglican churches of the United Kingdom are empty. We are also in the ME-2 era of the church, at this rate there would be no Archbishops/bishops left.
Catholic churches in densely populated area of the UK are full for 4 or 5 masses every Saturday/Sunday and get the usual smattering of elderly, unemployed and shift workers at the 9.30 weekday masses. In less densely populated areas, or areas with fewer catholics, the numbers are reflected in mass turnout. I can't speak about Anglican congregations, but you're ill informed about Catholic turnout.
That “safeguarding bishop” is standing there, in black shirt and white collar, trying to answer the question of whether there needs to be an independent investigative body for the church. And this lady has the audacity to try to act like her role, and that of this department she works in, IS independent!! She answered: “The work I’ve been leading, in terms of independent safeguarding, is about setting up a proper body for scrutiny and audit and complaints.And the possibility of full independence around operational safeguarding. That’s what’s coming to general synod in February. And I’m really glad were taking that so the whole synod can take ownership of that.” So you wanna have “ownership over safeguarding” or do you wanna do the RIGHT thing and hand it over to an independent third party?!!
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“The “archbishop’, who is already under fire for previous safeguarding failures…” well what were THOSE?!!! What other “safeguarding” failures was the “archbishop” being criticized for?!!!
He turned a blind eye to hundreds of historic and current allegations of a powerful and wealthy lay leader who enacted beatings and torture on young boys at his summer camps. Both Cottrell and Welby failed to act, though warned back in 2013. They simply moved his “charity,” to Africa, where his abusive behaviour continued and resulted in the deaths of 2 boys. Welby recently resigned but Cottrell did not.
I cannot accept that any bishop can feel 'utter devastation' when they learn about yet another abuse scandal in the church. The feeling of devastation should be because it's either been covered up or it has not been thoroughly investigated at the time. As always, the victims are treated like criminals.
We all appreciate when these assaults occur, it’s not easy for the victim to report this kind of behaviour. The problem continues that the Church overall still thinks it’s untouchable. If you apply for a position within a company or charity etc your asked to provide a DBS history - it seems this isn’t the rule here. This Bishop should be suspended immediately and be investigated and if guilty brought before the courts. How many more sad reports are we going to witness.
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She should have said, "Alleged victim and survivors" I am a sexual assualt survivor myself but I believe that it is important impartial language is used until an investigation has taken place.
Hopefully in 50 years time the church will have been scrapped. The ENDLESS examples of cover ups of horrific sexual abuse prove that the church couldn't care less about the vile behaviour of these monstrous predators!
Quite a shock really. I thought they preferred them a lot younger. Nice use of language there with the "learning outcome", and "unboundaried behaviour". Yet another example of the church refusing to accept what's before their eyes. It's a shame for the believers. No moral compass to be found here.
Over 50% of scientists also believe in god/some type of creator. Most of the greatest ideas/theories were attributed to god lol. Do some research into how many scientists were involved in the research of the paranormal…… and believed fully in spirits and entities…. You’ll be very surprised I’m sure
@@vancarbus didn’t say there was a god, I just find it funny that some of the greatest minds who ever lived believed in such a being. Einstein believed in god also, as did newton 🤷♂️
outsourced to whom??? to human beings with the same frailties and weaknesses??? this anchorwoman thinks perhaps she is immune from such frailties and weaknesses??? let the Church of England deal with these issues, but keep tabs on them to make sure they are doing their job. otherwise, is Channel 4 ambitioning to be the Orwellian BIG BROTHER of English church and society???
@Boltmotivationm There's always a pattern. Saville, Edwards, Glitter and the list is endless. But the white party tends to not be aggressive in wording their disgust. But when it's a person of colour, they want them hanged.
Jesus is not the minister of sin. God is not the author of confusion 1 Cor 14:33. God bless. Philip Norman Bradley. Ambassador for Christ in Australia.
The Safe guarding Bishop was the most forthcoming and did not try to skirt around the questions. I think that she could not be more direct or blunt for fear of being moved from her post at a time when more significant changes that she is proposing are pending at the next synod. I pray that she gets to complete that task so that healing and reform can begin in the C of E.
The Creator is Allaah Exalted and Most High to whom belongs all Worship and Everything comes as the Creation. We have to know who the One God is and the One Path not many paths so the Worship is how he taught and wants from the Son of Adam. Prophet Ibraheem was the Father of the Prophet's and The Prophet's were Paternal Brothers so no exemption can be made, even with the Final and Seal of the Messengers. Prophet Muhammad. Peace be upon them all and families.
Yes disgusting but seems you've really dove into this would be great if you put the same effort into Islamic cases too wich your very quiet on how strange its not like there's not plenty to go on no 🤔🙏
If someone is sexually predatory towards one woman he will be with others -that IS a safeguarding concern. Sexual assault and harassment is more then an issue with boundaries
The church should lose their seats in the Lords and pay corporation tax!
The church isn't a corporation. Nothing like a little vitriol though. Did the vicar drop you in the font?
@@ajons190 because my statement disagrees with your world view it is vitriol, and I am brain damaged?
No you just are brain damaged
@ajons190 it has a management structure, loads of assets revenue, employees, a PR department, a predatory business model & even colludes with government - just like corporations.
Should be sacked along with the failing Archbishop of York
Safeguarding should be outsourced to an independent body. The only reason it wouldn’t be is fear of the outcome.
They'd do a much better job of covering it up if it was the responsibility of social services and the police!
@@luddaite And the Home Office.
Bishop John has the right to innocence until proven guilty and as it stands he has not been proven guilty. There have been several cases in the UK where women have faced legal action for making false allegations of rape or sexual assault. One of the most high-profile recent cases is that of Eleanor Williams from Cumbria. She was convicted in 2023 of perverting the course of justice after falsely claiming she was raped and trafficked, even injuring herself to support her claims. Her accusations had serious consequences for those she accused, including wrongful imprisonment and suicide attempts. We need to acknowledge that such cases exist, although remain rare, studies suggest that 4% of reported sexual violence cases are found or suspected to be false. We need to allow for the law to do what they are made to do before he is prosecuted by the court of public opinion
Yeah. Good luck with that. Maybe he could convert to Islam.
Fair point. But bear in mind one of the complainants is a Bishop...
It does look like the women are on a mission.
All a bit irrelevant really.
he looks foreign so not surprised, deport him
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There is going to be no one left!! He ahold stand down while this is investigated . Cover ups all over the place
I'm more interested in how their religion and race is not being used to describe their crime.
Religion is coming into it and race is irrelevant -there are sexual predators of every race!
Interesting how the msm reports this but not Muslim gangs. Both are equally disgusting
Well said! 👏🏼👏🏼
Because it doesn’t say nowt about bumming kids in the bible laa 👀
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Cottrell surely can't continue as lead Archbishop? Poor decision after poor decision. Bishops must also be subject to the same rules of suspension as any other clergy: it really shouldn't be up to a Bishop to step aside voluntarily.
The catholic and Anglican churches of the United Kingdom are empty. We are also in the ME-2 era of the church, at this rate there would be no Archbishops/bishops left.
The church’s I go to get a decent congregation size
That’s a good thing, they should be held accountable
Please explain what you mean thanks
Catholic churches in densely populated area of the UK are full for 4 or 5 masses every Saturday/Sunday and get the usual smattering of elderly, unemployed and shift workers at the 9.30 weekday masses. In less densely populated areas, or areas with fewer catholics, the numbers are reflected in mass turnout.
I can't speak about Anglican congregations, but you're ill informed about Catholic turnout.
@paddyireland4657 the Romans Catholic Church ruined Ireland
Not step down. Dismissed
The police took no further action sounds about right for cops in Britain he’s not the pope!
That “safeguarding bishop” is standing there, in black shirt and white collar, trying to answer the question of whether there needs to be an independent investigative body for the church. And this lady has the audacity to try to act like her role, and that of this department she works in, IS independent!! She answered: “The work I’ve been leading, in terms of independent safeguarding, is about setting up a proper body for scrutiny and audit and complaints.And the possibility of full independence around operational safeguarding. That’s what’s coming to general synod in February. And I’m really glad were taking that so the whole synod can take ownership of that.” So you wanna have “ownership over safeguarding” or do you wanna do the RIGHT thing and hand it over to an independent third party?!!
at least it wasnt little boys this time
Being groped between 2019 and 2023 is definitely not somewhere anyone would ever wish to be groped.
I lold
What an appalling allegation about a Bishop no less. Suspend immediately
At least this bishop doesn’t have under eights after dinner 😂😂😂
What about the police officers that are suspected? What about David carol who did this for 50years? Or ALL the others ?! Who are protected,by police.
one night i was scrolling through my phone, feeling like i’d never figure out why some people just seem so magnetic. then i came across this book, Vibrations of Manifestation by Alex Lane, and something about it caught my attention. reading it was like turning on a light in a dark room. it’s not about pretending to be someone you’re not; it’s about unlocking the energy you already have. trust me, this book is worth every page
“The “archbishop’, who is already under fire for previous safeguarding failures…” well what were THOSE?!!! What other “safeguarding” failures was the “archbishop” being criticized for?!!!
He turned a blind eye to hundreds of historic and current allegations of a powerful and wealthy lay leader who enacted beatings and torture on young boys at his summer camps. Both Cottrell and Welby failed to act, though warned back in 2013. They simply moved his “charity,” to Africa, where his abusive behaviour continued and resulted in the deaths of 2 boys. Welby recently resigned but Cottrell did not.
What a bad witness. So glad they don't mention my saviour at all.
The longer we hear excuses & clever talk the church is covering allegations that are too serious to ignore & not take action immediately
The ministry of Liverpool = The ministry of Darkness
Its always the usual suspects
Why this but no pics of the 2 ex policeman accused.
Bishop accuses Bishop of sexual abuse aka no man woman or child is safe in Britain !
I am shocked...! Do you mean to say that sexual abuse goes on in the Church of England???!!!
I cannot accept that any bishop can feel 'utter devastation' when they learn about yet another abuse scandal in the church. The feeling of devastation should be because it's either been covered up or it has not been thoroughly investigated at the time. As always, the victims are treated like criminals.
He's a man of God. Leave him alone
he's a foreigner and a menace
We all appreciate when these assaults occur, it’s not easy for the victim to report this kind of behaviour.
The problem continues that the Church overall still thinks it’s untouchable.
If you apply for a position within a company or charity etc your asked to provide a DBS history - it seems this isn’t the rule here.
This Bishop should be suspended immediately and be investigated and if guilty brought before the courts.
How many more sad reports are we going to witness.
Usual suspects.
Where is EDL?😂
And elon musk and reform and tories oh wait they don't care
Verbal abuse?
The CofE out of the frying pan...
And then back into the closet….
i remember feeling like i was always the one fading into the background while others stood out effortlessly. it was frustrating and made me doubt myself a lot. then i came across this book, Vibrations of Manifestation by Alex Lane, and it showed me things i’d never even considered. it’s not just a self-help book; it’s like a guide to understanding your own energy and using it to connect with people. if you’ve ever felt like you’re not seen, this book might change everything.
She should have said, "Alleged victim and survivors"
I am a sexual assualt survivor myself but I believe that it is important impartial language is used until an investigation has taken place.
*the unnamed vicar with red hair
Hopefully in 50 years time the church will have been scrapped. The ENDLESS examples of cover ups of horrific sexual abuse prove that the church couldn't care less about the vile behaviour of these monstrous predators!
The church may be. The mosque won't.
islam will be banned in europe first thank god
the people of liverpool wont allow him to stay unlike people of rochdale
Quite a shock really. I thought they preferred them a lot younger.
Nice use of language there with the "learning outcome", and "unboundaried behaviour".
Yet another example of the church refusing to accept what's before their eyes.
It's a shame for the believers.
No moral compass to be found here.
Not just the Catholic Church then. I have always said that the C of E ministers were as bad. Who can you trust these days?
90 percent of the people on this planet believe in some god,,,,how scary is that. To me, its the same as believing in father christmas.
Over 50% of scientists also believe in god/some type of creator. Most of the greatest ideas/theories were attributed to god lol. Do some research into how many scientists were involved in the research of the paranormal…… and believed fully in spirits and entities…. You’ll be very surprised I’m sure
Erm...Santa was a real person, you know ?
@@kylegill4932 There is no god,, simple
@@vancarbus didn’t say there was a god, I just find it funny that some of the greatest minds who ever lived believed in such a being. Einstein believed in god also, as did newton 🤷♂️
Not sure them two believed in a god in the sky, everyone back then believed,,,,,,,,,,Every culture was taught in some god or another.
outsourced to whom??? to human beings with the same frailties and weaknesses??? this anchorwoman thinks perhaps she is immune from such frailties and weaknesses??? let the Church of England deal with these issues, but keep tabs on them to make sure they are doing their job. otherwise, is Channel 4 ambitioning to be the Orwellian BIG BROTHER of English church and society???
Why don't these religious figures just gets jobs within academia, where there's no accountability whatever - no matter how many pandemics you trigger.
At least they’re leaving the kids alone.
Why do so many of these monsters have the same beard.
Seems like a lack of reliable talent within the CoE to manage the ongoing situation.
Usual milky bar suspects.
White
@Boltmotivationm There's always a pattern. Saville, Edwards, Glitter and the list is endless. But the white party tends to not be aggressive in wording their disgust. But when it's a person of colour, they want them hanged.
Nasty works...
I've not been to Liverpool in a while. Blimey, their accent has changed a bit.
HENRY V111 said goodbye as a Catholic ~~ He Knew !! 🏴✝️🏴
Seems like a Christian problem to me!
not british is he
Don't mock God.
Jesus is not the minister of sin. God is not the author of confusion 1 Cor 14:33. God bless. Philip Norman Bradley. Ambassador for Christ in Australia.
Another bishop bashing story
Was he raised his voice against Israel or spoke the truth about Israel 🇮🇱?
Then you know , how they will take people down who spoke the truth
And they criticise Islam 😂😂😂😂
The Safe guarding Bishop was the most forthcoming and did not try to skirt around the questions. I think that she could not be more direct or blunt for fear of being moved from her post at a time when more significant changes that she is proposing are pending at the next synod. I pray that she gets to complete that task so that healing and reform can begin in the C of E.
Nice to work for a God who forgives all your sins. 😂
These women in dog collars look utterly silly.
They don't look like perps, though, Do they?
Absolutely…. Surely there should be a female equivalent?
@@helveticaificationno but they do look a few slices short of a full loaf.
So you want to be taking for a walk then I put a lead on you and take you for a walk
they should just convert to Islam than channe 4 defend them , accuse the "far-ight" and Labour will make the honorary party members
you poor puppet
You are a sheep.
...but would they still be able to partake in the Resurrection if they were to do that?
О Гаврило! Морате побољшати правопис свој на енглеском... 😮
Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world
The Creator is Allaah Exalted and Most High to whom belongs all Worship and Everything comes as the Creation. We have to know who the One God is and the One Path not many paths so the Worship is how he taught and wants from the Son of Adam. Prophet Ibraheem was the Father of the Prophet's and The Prophet's were Paternal Brothers so no exemption can be made, even with the Final and Seal of the Messengers. Prophet Muhammad. Peace be upon them all and families.
Yes disgusting but seems you've really dove into this would be great if you put the same effort into Islamic cases too wich your very quiet on how strange its not like there's not plenty to go on no 🤔🙏