1964: Philip LARKIN and John BETJEMAN on Poetry | Monitor | Classic arts interview | BBC Archive

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  • @hilaryepstein6013
    @hilaryepstein6013 2 роки тому +34

    Delightful to listen to. Two giants of modern English poetry just chatting. I wonder what they'd make of the modern world.

  • @FOXHOUND4143
    @FOXHOUND4143 7 місяців тому +6

    He said something important here. He could only write the most genuine authentic poetry because he had another means of income, as a librarian. This is important, because too often we take our work too seriously. Work should be a means to an end sometimes , affording us the freedom to do what we really want to do in life.

    • @nspector
      @nspector 7 місяців тому

      Yes. Good point.

  • @davidbowey1784
    @davidbowey1784 9 місяців тому +4

    Philip larkin is the poet I've enjoyed reading more than any other JB wa a fav of mine as well its great to watch two giants of poetry discussing poetry

  • @petergivenbless900
    @petergivenbless900 2 роки тому +7

    I fear I have no ear for poetry, yet when time's spent in it's company, I seem to see it everywhere.
    No Stillettos Aloud

  • @hellie_el
    @hellie_el 2 роки тому +11

    so wonderful it breaks your heart.

  • @U24B6
    @U24B6 2 роки тому +21

    I absolutely loved this conversation. Thank you!

    • @maullinp
      @maullinp 2 роки тому +4

      I wish there was more of it -Love Larkin's poetry. Just quiet, modest conversation between two brilliant minds. Love the settings as well.

  • @patrickcrowther9195
    @patrickcrowther9195 2 роки тому +8

    Studying Larkin’s ‘The Less Deceived’ at school was one of the few things I enjoyed of the experience.

  • @adig2414
    @adig2414 4 місяці тому +3

    Larkin is hands down my favourite poet, along with Yeats.

  • @heresjohnny602
    @heresjohnny602 2 роки тому +13

    I hear my own national dialect so little these days that these videos warm my nostalgia.

  • @danslider9014
    @danslider9014 2 роки тому +13

    I'm sat watching this at the Hull Uni bar
    (Now a wetherspoons) on a smart phone. I wonder what Larkin would make of that...

    • @whywhywhy9659
      @whywhywhy9659 2 роки тому +5

      Watching it on lunch as a civil servant on my phone, pretty sure Larkin would hate me, which only seems right.

    • @jonharrison9222
      @jonharrison9222 Рік тому

      You can guess what Larkin would use a smartphone for, so…

  • @markriley5863
    @markriley5863 2 роки тому +5

    Larkin is my favourite poet. I love Going Going, High Windows, Dockery and Son, Money, This be the Verse .. I could go on.

  • @andrewelliott4436
    @andrewelliott4436 3 місяці тому

    Very sympathetically filmed.
    No extreme angles, unnecessary zooms, fast edits or intrusive music. The subject has the room to breathe - and the viewer has the room to think.

  • @hayleyanna2625
    @hayleyanna2625 Місяць тому

    Wonderful to see these two magnificent poets.❤

  • @sonofode902
    @sonofode902 2 роки тому +8

    Love it. Love the content of the channel. Like finding gold.
    Thank you for sharing these old videos.

  • @JamesTilsley1
    @JamesTilsley1 10 місяців тому +4

    We'll never see their like again.

  • @KajiCarson
    @KajiCarson Рік тому +1

    Very nice restoration of this interview, thank you for taking the trouble in doing it. Larkin, warts and all, was a very decent fellow.

  • @paulschlitz5256
    @paulschlitz5256 9 місяців тому +2

    I’m an American who loves the verse of both of these characters!

  • @kpb96m
    @kpb96m 2 роки тому +9

    Philip wears his suit so effortlessly. I would love to be so comfortable in a suit that I could sit in the grass, walk in the drizzle, lounge comfortably at home and ride a bicycle without worrying about wrinkles, stains or damage to the attire. How did they do it?

  • @OccamsEraserhead
    @OccamsEraserhead Рік тому +11

    Remember when the BBC showcased culture and intellectualism, rather than recoiling from it as if it were some contagious disease?

  • @roderickdewar1064
    @roderickdewar1064 9 місяців тому +2

    I imagine adding Ted Hughes, Benjamin Zephaniah and John Cooper Clarke into that conversation. I would have loved to listen to them.

  • @jdm65
    @jdm65 2 роки тому +6

    This is rather wonderful (although it could also be the lead into a Fast Show sketch)

  • @borderlands6606
    @borderlands6606 2 роки тому +12

    Talk of distant Victorian death, from an equally distant land of cod and cough sweets, and stiletto heels.

  • @davidtexmex1616
    @davidtexmex1616 2 роки тому

    Interesting conversation with these two, always was a fan of Reasons for Attendance

  • @DaraM73
    @DaraM73 2 роки тому +10

    A shame it had to finish.

  • @markpalmar70
    @markpalmar70 2 роки тому +1

    There's that rabbit again. An absolutely splendid film.

  • @jamesgale2147
    @jamesgale2147 Рік тому

    where Larkin was first strolling, is doubtless now a line of wharfeside line of cafes and bistros

  • @liverpix
    @liverpix Місяць тому

    It seems that John Betjeman has read Philip Larkin's poems but not vice versa.

  • @markbumford8076
    @markbumford8076 2 роки тому +2

    In my ignorance I know nothing of these to gentleman and feel my ignorance has left me missing out?
    Can anyone recommend any of their works please.
    Many thanks

    • @maullinp
      @maullinp 2 роки тому +3

      I Highly recommend 'Whitsun Weddings' by Larkin.

    • @markbumford8076
      @markbumford8076 2 роки тому +1

      @@maullinp thank you so much Paul.

    • @hilaryepstein6013
      @hilaryepstein6013 2 роки тому +3

      I would suggest "Summoned by Bells" by John Betjeman, but I love most of his poetry. He also made documentaries for the BBC, some of which are on BBC iPlayer (UK only) and UA-cam.

    • @markbumford8076
      @markbumford8076 2 роки тому +2

      @@hilaryepstein6013 thank you Hillary for you suggestions

    • @nigecheshire9854
      @nigecheshire9854 2 роки тому +2

      Whitsun weddings is something I would recommend

  • @joeoconnor5400
    @joeoconnor5400 2 роки тому +3

    I saw this programme on BBC 4 last night. Two giants of 20th Century poetry musing together. Larkin's views on Ted Hughes were interesting. Hughes was not aware Larkin had been asked first to be poet laureate

    • @jonharrison9222
      @jonharrison9222 Рік тому

      In fact, he guessed (correctly) that Larkin had been offered the post and turned it down.
      Reading Larkin on Hughes, Heaney or RS Thomas and you sense jealousy at work rather than intelligence.

  • @begratefulx8386
    @begratefulx8386 8 місяців тому

    💎

  • @depniff
    @depniff 2 роки тому

    Interesting views on critics. They felt the pressure but I wonder how they would get on nowadays where everyone can be an instant critic. Some UA-camrs spend yoo much time being concerned about a minority who don't agree with them and should get their views into perspective like Philip.

    • @jonharrison9222
      @jonharrison9222 Рік тому

      Philip’s sense of perspective usually involved swilling gin and casual racism, in fairness.

  • @Veni_Vidi_Vortice
    @Veni_Vidi_Vortice 2 роки тому +2

    Good job he wasn't wearing stiletto heels in the library. That might have been awkward.

    • @nspector
      @nspector 7 місяців тому

      That was something, wasn't it.

  • @_PoeticJustice_
    @_PoeticJustice_ 10 місяців тому

    Please check out the following video for more content about Philip Larkin: ua-cam.com/video/waMQYg8c8lM/v-deo.html

  • @johnmc3862
    @johnmc3862 2 роки тому +3

    Real men
    Lol.

  • @iansmith9125
    @iansmith9125 7 місяців тому

    Now we have a horrible trend of people spewing out two line self help soundbites & it’s understood to be poetry.
    It’s usually lamenting an ex or affirming how unbelievably strong (& yet vulnerable) the writer is.
    It’s utter horseshit & anyone who likes it is an idiot.
    Larkin had insight & talent, skill.
    Betjeman had a great generosity of spirit & an understanding of the form & figure of the poem itself.
    Facebook poetry, instagram poetry, cheapens the real thing & dupes the innocent into accepting fakery when the solid, real artifact is available.
    Rant over 😂

    • @bettinggetter
      @bettinggetter 5 місяців тому

      Horrible poetry has always existed, but back then the most offensive thing one could do is to tear it out of the scrapbook where it belonged and pin it up on some public board. Now it's easier still to type up and hit send. This concept can be mapped onto all forms of art I'd suppose, and there are fortunately ways to filter through the noise otherwise life might be unbearable.

  • @buxvan
    @buxvan 2 роки тому +2

    Larkin could be Jacob Rees mogs father.

    • @esc6786
      @esc6786 2 роки тому

      Simon Raven has a character in his Arms of Oblivion series who is based on him...

    • @johnsheppard7935
      @johnsheppard7935 27 днів тому

      No i don't think so Jacob Rees Mog is the devils spawn!