Veteran Abrams Cutout and Final Thoughts (with Motorcycle Tire)

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  • @cneal15
    @cneal15 Рік тому +12

    I think it’s important that everyone knows that the wheel works perfectly fine with the new firmware update. I’ve owned one for a couple months now. Put over 300 miles on it, and pushed it up to 44 mph with zero issues

  • @RobUKTH
    @RobUKTH 2 роки тому +31

    Glad you're ok Adam. Be interested to hear about the cause, when identified. Stay safe! 👍🙏

    • @macswanton9622
      @macswanton9622 2 роки тому +5

      I hope Veteran doesn't blame the crash on an 'unauthorized tire'

    • @mangotail6808
      @mangotail6808 2 роки тому

      I,m also glad Adam is alright, falling from a EUC with speed of 50-60 km/h sure is scary, just thinking about it.

  • @yusufcanaktas6929
    @yusufcanaktas6929 2 роки тому +27

    That is just heartbreaking, as far as I have seen from your clips you really enjoyed riding this wheel although it was never perfect from the start. Glad to see you are okay, hope you get better soon.

  • @Ubeogesh
    @Ubeogesh 2 роки тому +13

    it was clear from the very beginning that the Abrams has these kinds of issues. I think we have enough coverage in the community to "separate the wheat from the chaff" at this moment. Thanks for contributing to it, Adam!

  • @thoughtsalad1629
    @thoughtsalad1629 2 роки тому +11

    Thank you so much for the blunt honesty, in all you videos. Whether good or bad you are direct with your praise and criticism; extremely insightful and valuable! If my motorcycle locked up engine at random that would be a dealbreaker too! Cheers, stay healthy!

  • @privileguan9127
    @privileguan9127 2 роки тому +7

    Thanks for your service as crash dummy, Adam.
    Safety gear and beta wheel tested to the max. Hope you are recovering soon, these "little" wounds are quite annoying.

  • @NuggetHe17
    @NuggetHe17 2 роки тому +3

    I love watching your videos while eating grapes, love the quality, love the voice. And you even made me buy a sherman, using code wrongway of course 😎

  • @billybonapartejr.2205
    @billybonapartejr.2205 2 роки тому +2

    Thanks for taking one for the team.. Glad you are ok.. Gear is good…

  • @GoG6138
    @GoG6138 2 роки тому +10

    Thanks for beta testing for us Adam. I don't always entirely agree with your reviews but I always appreciate the effort and the content.

  • @daley1985
    @daley1985 2 роки тому +3

    As a youtuber i value ur commitment to the cause and speaking fearlessly about these unsafe products.It adds more credibility to the channel when u can point out the shortcomings of such wheels instead of giving a glowing review to hopefully snare one of the new demo wheels going around.,Keep up the good work and atgatt saves the day!

  • @arevee9429
    @arevee9429 2 роки тому +3

    Glad you are OK, Adam. And good thing you weren't riding in traffic. I've had cutoffs and they are not fun.

  • @haroldsmith45302
    @haroldsmith45302 Рік тому

    Thank you for reporting and describing this event, Adam. I am sorry you got hurt but very glad you did not suffer major injuries.

  • @gir_bot
    @gir_bot 2 роки тому +5

    7:17 "The rim was made out of sh*tanium" 😂

  • @longzero
    @longzero 2 роки тому +1

    That's so terrible! Glad you're still alive and hope that injury heals quickly.

  • @elliotbrittain2064
    @elliotbrittain2064 2 роки тому +3

    Thank you for sharing and your contributions. Scary to see these things but a good reminder to me to keep geared up. A tip about your side wound, since I had a very similar one after a motorcycle crash: I would use some gauze that has petroleum jelly with it. I have some medical grade patches now like this but man I wish I did back then😅! Twice a day I cleaned and redressed the ouchie.. but dried blood likes to fuse with the dressing. Once scabs form I used Neosporin and finally scar cream if you want. Disclaimer: I'm no medical professional but maybe someone will verify or edit, ty.

  • @CarlosGarcia-dr7bd
    @CarlosGarcia-dr7bd 2 роки тому

    FROM TIMES SQUARE NEW YORK CITY !!! WOW. NO GOOD. Be safe. 1 LOVE & PEACE

  • @EdLrandom
    @EdLrandom 2 роки тому +3

    even outside of the large city you have bike lanes? that's so cool!

    • @Ubeogesh
      @Ubeogesh 2 роки тому

      he was riding on the street most of the time there because there was no bike lane

  • @ZeroAlligator
    @ZeroAlligator 2 роки тому +1

    Glad that you’re ok Adam

  • @electroncycles
    @electroncycles 2 роки тому +6

    What type of hardware or software can we install to avoid cutouts? We need to create a failsafe system that makes wheels ultra safe. I agree this is 100% unacceptable and we have the technology to fix this

  • @MathieuTechMoto
    @MathieuTechMoto Рік тому

    Glad you weren't injured, i'll try one next week so we'll see if it's really fixed (hopefully yes)

  • @fujio001
    @fujio001 2 роки тому

    Oh man. I am so glad that you are safe!

  • @andrewwalsh2755
    @andrewwalsh2755 2 роки тому +1

    Honest video. A reminder that reliability is everything in a wheel.

  • @darkhorseeuc
    @darkhorseeuc 2 роки тому

    Glad you’re ok. Thanks for publishing this as well, these companies need to up the safety.

  • @renedugas2396
    @renedugas2396 2 роки тому +1

    what you should do Adams when you communicate with the Chinese manufacturer is to ask him for a safe speed chart recommend according to the battery charge, example between 80% and 100% of the battery the speed must be lower than 60 km/ hrs between 70% and 80% of the battery the speed must be less than 50 km/ hrs, between 50% and 70% of the battery the speed must be less than 35 km/ hrs and less than 50% of the battery the speed must be less than 25 km/hr. maybe he would accept. it is certain that indicating that the recommended speed is 25 km/hour at all times clears it of any recourse by the user against his product.

  • @seewaldsja
    @seewaldsja 2 роки тому +6

    my wife got mad when I told her that I hit 31 miles an hour on my king song 16X today. Im only about 1 month into learning but I did invest in good safety gear. And the stomach gash is kinda my big fear myself.

  • @idowheelie8598
    @idowheelie8598 2 роки тому +1

    Really would like to see someone setup euc self build kit. Build quality is something no one wants to see is lacking on an item that cost thousands.

  • @Hellknight27
    @Hellknight27 2 роки тому +28

    After a couple of years of watching your content, this is what has stopped me from buying one yet. Glad you have good gear to survive your beta testing these days at least Adam.

    • @-meganeura
      @-meganeura 2 роки тому +7

      I wrote a poem about this and goes like:
      " If four wheels move your body and two wheels move your soul, then an electric unicycle move your body and soul into, another world..."

    • @greenwave819
      @greenwave819 2 роки тому +2

      @@-meganeura good stuff!

    • @Ubeogesh
      @Ubeogesh 2 роки тому +2

      If you follow the community, it is really clear what wheels shouldn't be bought to avoid serious issues. Right now it's Nikola, Abrams and V12. Everything else - don't worry about a cutout man. Word spreads really fast these days.

    • @Hellknight27
      @Hellknight27 2 роки тому

      @@Ubeogesh I am a reasonably big, tall guy, so I don't trust any of the entry level wheels that weren't designed with the likes of me in mind, and I am not about to pay the big money for the higher-end models that could support me adequately, just to potentially find it isn't something I enjoy, as reselling where I live wouldn't be easy. I have never even seen someone riding one here. I wish the likes of Yamaha (who are now making e-bikes) take a crack at making one in the future.

    • @Ubeogesh
      @Ubeogesh 2 роки тому

      @Hell-Knight If you don't mind the lower range\max speed, I recommend V11. We have heavy riders in V11 telegram community (130 kg or more) using it without an issue. It has a no-axle design (pedal hangers bolted directly to the stator) so the weight of the rider is not an issue. It's reliable and time-tested at this point. I own it, done a few amateur-quality repairs on it so the wheel is far from perfect condition (i have an earlier revision with bearing issues, so I had to replace the bearing - now the stator is not aligned perfectly, the driver board has restored traces and a replaced capacitor from physical damage) yet it rides like a charm for the past half a year.
      As for the Abrams it was clear from the very first community media coverage that this wheel has issues with overpowering and\or cutouts.

  • @jashton8710
    @jashton8710 2 роки тому +1

    For that kind of money, this should be flawless. I'm a beginner and toying with the idea of buying my first wheel, but when I see stuff like this I take a step back.

    • @Ubeogesh
      @Ubeogesh 2 роки тому

      Just gather more info man. Very few people bought the Abrams and even Adam has noted at 1:57 there were 5 cutout reports. Get a more time tested wheel and you're going to be fine.
      I can personally recommend either V11 (if you are fine with its lower performance and range) or Sherman (if you don't plan on abusing it with bumps and you are not very heavy - the wheel is known for its less durable axle and rim).

    • @jashton8710
      @jashton8710 2 роки тому

      @@Ubeogesh I'm actually quite drawn to the S18.

  • @FALKONDX
    @FALKONDX 2 роки тому

    Thank you Adam, for your reviews, and your effort and risk. cheer up and good luck mate!

  • @KiwiMark67
    @KiwiMark67 2 роки тому +1

    Looks pretty good, I like the stability of the bigger wheel and the better seated comfort. I might consider buying a version 2 of this wheel if the cut-out issue gets properly resolved.

  • @elgringodelasscooters9616
    @elgringodelasscooters9616 2 роки тому +1

    This could be the batteries BMS i discovered if you give small impact hit on just about any BMS they reset, Or cutout, all tho refering to your cutout remember as the battery gets lower you must drop your top speed bro your prolly asking too much power from the motor with battery at 70% wind and hills plays a factor too, drive an e-scooter since you can full throttle it with no cutouts you will notice how it gives less and less top speed each time as battery is been depleted also higher temperatures will also steal power away wich also plays a factor the hotter a motor is = less power. But still gives everyone the benefit of the doubt it could also be manufacturing probelms of the board or motor or BMS.

  • @arthurrobey4945
    @arthurrobey4945 2 роки тому +20

    It is not surprising that the engineers began by asking questions; that is how I would have responded.
    First gather the facts then form a hypothesis, test it and only then implement a solution.

    • @weberito
      @weberito 2 роки тому

      Would you deliver unfinished product? I guess not.

    • @DonalRomano
      @DonalRomano 2 роки тому +4

      Exactly 💯 as an engineer it's what I do daily, I need to know the conditions in which failure accrued, not just doesn't work went bump bang!

    • @Kekafuch
      @Kekafuch 2 роки тому +3

      @@weberito was his wheel a production one or pre production sample that is being sent around for testing?

    • @kmg501
      @kmg501 2 роки тому +5

      Good point, engineers are interested in understanding the problem. If they don't understand the problem they can't devise a solution.

    • @arthurrobey4945
      @arthurrobey4945 2 роки тому +1

      @@weberito
      It is the nature of engineering that progress is evolutionary.
      Was the model T Ford a finished product?
      Possibly, but we have moved on. (Some might say backward )

  • @leadsled8961
    @leadsled8961 2 роки тому +1

    When you turn and ride the side of the tire the wheel the diameter descreases and the wheel needs to speed up for the same speed and that is what causes the peddle dip ( twisting of the wheel perpendicular to the rotation).

    • @JonahHax
      @JonahHax Рік тому

      peddle???
      Do you mean pedal?

  • @reitze01
    @reitze01 2 роки тому +3

    At 0:37, I wonder what the current draw at that same speed and the stock tire were. I removed an Shinko SR-244 from my MSX because it had way too much rolling friction, made that wheel feel like it was fighting tread like wind over 20mph (on that 43 mph wheel). I replaced it with the Shinko SR-241 (a dual use tire) and it was/is fine 2000 miles later. The tire on the S20 is lower knobs and softer than the Shinko and other moto tires.

  • @robinblackman4509
    @robinblackman4509 2 роки тому +14

    Seems like things is going backwards,, technically and that.
    My V11 is still going strong.....over 2500 miles now ...ride the beeps constant, even got volume completely down.
    STILL NO CUT OUT 👍

    • @terkelalgevind529
      @terkelalgevind529 2 роки тому +2

      Same with my v8f... Running beeps 90% of the time.. same range.. Nó issues.

    • @jamesordwayultralightpilot
      @jamesordwayultralightpilot 2 роки тому

      ExN outruns me everyday

    • @YoungNeo777
      @YoungNeo777 2 роки тому +1

      Hope you knocked on wood...lol jk

    • @CaptainCandycorn
      @CaptainCandycorn 2 роки тому +3

      I have a v11 and I'm always terrified when it beeps. Is it really that safe?

    • @TechMan042
      @TechMan042 2 роки тому +1

      @@CaptainCandycorn yes

  • @acidicjew2242
    @acidicjew2242 2 роки тому +1

    I sincerely hope you are ok. I respect you and your work.
    If you change stock components on a vehicle without following a service manual, the manufacturer shouldn’t be held responsible for the potential impact on safety.
    Recommended PSI on tires is usually more specific in the manual than the range listed on the sidewall of a tire. It is possible that when you hit the bump, deforming the tire, making the upper half make contact with the wheel well… thus the cutout, same as if you got debris stuck in there. Having to overcome that friction is what I would guess is why the wheel was overpowered and cut out.
    It is possible that the wheel is simply faulty, but the circumstances of your crash seem to indicate otherwise.

    • @whatsupbudbud
      @whatsupbudbud 2 роки тому +1

      That bump wasn't a bump though, mostly flat. The argument regarding deformation seems plausible nonetheless.

  • @vnmnavarro71
    @vnmnavarro71 2 роки тому

    Glad that you are OK after the crash. Ride safe. Nice video again, straight forward. Looking forward to that Sherman video with a different tire.

  • @renedugas2396
    @renedugas2396 2 роки тому +2

    seeing you ride this wheel (except for the crash) just makes you want to go buy one at the store. it looks like you're flying down the road ..;)

  • @claudioagmfilho
    @claudioagmfilho 2 роки тому +2

    🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷👏🏻, I'm glad you're okay Adams!

  • @landocycle
    @landocycle 2 роки тому

    That sucks, dude. Glad you’re ok!

  • @BrianScheuring
    @BrianScheuring 2 роки тому +1

    Glad you’re ok. Unfortunately I really don’t feel there’s much R&D with some manufacturers and if there is they just aren’t testing enough.

  • @vikbanerjee9226
    @vikbanerjee9226 2 роки тому

    I'm glad you are okay.

  • @Ubeogesh
    @Ubeogesh 2 роки тому +1

    Hey did you see Hagov's (Euc.sale) video where he claimed to have modded the Abrams and fixed the issue?
    Their shop in LT replaced hall sensors and some minor electrical components and it made the wheel much more powerful.

  • @glennevangelista
    @glennevangelista 2 роки тому

    Just new to your channel. I enjoy your insightful feedback. Sorry for the accident but good to know your ok.

  • @-meganeura
    @-meganeura 2 роки тому +7

    After my comment on your last video, this video just proves my point on EUC´s, I´m sure this can happen on any model or make!
    Machines are not perfect, and when you depend on electrical components with no redundancy, to be able to balance itself, no mechanical forgiveness to catch you... brother... you are going down.
    Please be careful, life is too precious.

    • @Ubeogesh
      @Ubeogesh 2 роки тому

      While this "can" happen on any wheel, it really doesn't. Time proves that only certain models are bad, others just never cut out. Thousands of riders can confirm that.
      And with Abrams this issue was known since the beginning (Adam even told about it in the video but he dismissed it).

    • @-meganeura
      @-meganeura 2 роки тому +1

      @@Ubeogesh @Ubeogesh I would love to believe that, but facts point the other way, ex:
      Sherman ua-cam.com/video/LT-PuLerm_U/v-deo.html ua-cam.com/video/_w8PQqokgj4/v-deo.html
      MSP V2 ua-cam.com/video/oopPNGKtbUI/v-deo.html
      Gotway Tesla ua-cam.com/video/OBhoSBDUPsU/v-deo.html
      EX ua-cam.com/video/76QUV7ezgMs/v-deo.html
      Monster ua-cam.com/video/u2CNjxLijZw/v-deo.html ua-cam.com/video/RwcxT4lOnpo/v-deo.html ua-cam.com/video/mxei12VNXX0/v-deo.html
      King Song 16X ua-cam.com/video/KafDBcP-dno/v-deo.html
      Inmotion V11 ua-cam.com/video/RTM9RuSV__g/v-deo.html
      Sherman explodes ua-cam.com/video/Hre7iRQyGlU/v-deo.html
      This is just a example list, i´m sure I can find many more. And cant ignore the ones that were not recorded.
      EUC´s are dangerous and not fit for road use. It is evident! But many people ignore, or/and trick themselves/others

    • @heymelon
      @heymelon 2 роки тому +2

      Suuure, and you should always be prepared for this mentally and with gear. That said there are wheels that are more reliable than others, that rarely get user reports of cutouts that aren't caused by the driver or for no real reason we can externally measure. And I guess the only way to gauge that is to never buy the newest models before they have been around in the wild for a while and you can see if you find any scary trends in the feedback on it.

    • @AuRowe
      @AuRowe 2 роки тому +1

      @@heymelon exactly never buy the newest batch, and dress for the slide not the ride. The rate of failure is an issue but op comment is claiming that having failure however rare it may be inherently flaws euc compared to other pev's. It's just the risk IF it breaks on you is higher because you will fall off when theoretically a scooter you could glide to a stop if it breaks. That's not a solid argument against EUC's, it's a solid argument that we the consumers need to pressure the companies to prioritize the safety feature on all wheels over more and more powerful everything. Inmotion cutouts do happen too but overall I just trust their quality so much more than any other brand. Hoping V12 HT has minimal cutouts.

    • @heymelon
      @heymelon 2 роки тому

      @@AuRowe yeah that's all fair. But if you never do anything because of the worst-case scenario that you can protect yourself from very well then yeah not my kind of life I guess. I've had a regular bike split in half when I was riding it normally of flat tarmac as well. Wasn't my fault but I still continued biking :)

  • @phizicks
    @phizicks 2 роки тому +1

    seems like bad connection which leads to cut out. check for heating up of connectors or any dry joints on pcb somewhere.

  • @justinoldham121
    @justinoldham121 2 роки тому +1

    I agree. That cutout is unacceptable. The city I live in has roads designed with a lot of the manholes in the path of car's tires... a flaw in steet design... and hitting them at any speed is a hard bump.
    So, I've learned to be attentive to manholes, and deliberate in my steering. When I drive a car or ride a bike, I avoid manholes. I'll do the same with an EUC.
    I think anyone who drives or rides will agree that's a no brainer.

  • @pandabike3826
    @pandabike3826 2 роки тому

    I appreciate you Adam! Glad you're ok. ATGATT =D

  • @todoanteojos8060
    @todoanteojos8060 2 роки тому +1

    I went through the same on a V12 inmotion. 76 % battery, 92 volts brand new wheel (only 86 km), but this time i was riding only up to 20km/h and after a bump wheel cut off

  • @mrmaxfield67
    @mrmaxfield67 2 роки тому +1

    Adam, thanks, great work as always. I’m curious about your safety gear. Have you done a video on that subject, and what specifically are you wearing in this vid?

  • @adamd8326
    @adamd8326 2 роки тому +1

    Do you think it could have something to do with your pedal dip being set at -5 leaning you to far forward. I wonder if setting it a 0 would eliminate this problem
    I have a veteran Sherman and setting mine at -5 would definitely make me fall off, this would also affect the gyro to some point, making a lean cutoff limit shorter then when set at 0 …. Thoughts ?

  • @LemonySnicket-EUC
    @LemonySnicket-EUC 2 роки тому +2

    Does the tire have anything to do with it ? Asking for a friend 😁 I does handle like a Z10 now from my perspective.

  • @adamguzik9350
    @adamguzik9350 2 роки тому +1

    @Wrong Way , I think I can reproduce the cutout. Set the Abrams to Medium, slow approach a curb and go at it. So far I got it to cut out 2 out of 2 tries. If I set it to STRONG, it will not cut out. Adam, what mode were you in when the wheel cut out?

  • @Ubeogesh
    @Ubeogesh 2 роки тому +2

    I think EUC companies should encourage riders to use advanced logging\telemetry (like we have in EUC world), and even make it work without an app connected (not everyone is eager to launch an app every time the start a ride) - i.e. the wheel should have an internal always running "black box" logger like airplanes do.
    Implementing such a system will slow down the momentum at which the industry is progressing but it is absolutely needed to keep improving the reliability and trust in the devices.

    • @-meganeura
      @-meganeura 2 роки тому +1

      I agree, logging and more redundancy, small consumer drones have been doing this for years now, with machines like this, it is even more important!

    • @Ubeogesh
      @Ubeogesh 2 роки тому +2

      @@-meganeura do you have an idea how there can be 2 independed driver boards where if one short-circuits the other can keep driving the motor? sounds super complicated, although this feels like the holy grail of EUCs

    • @-meganeura
      @-meganeura 2 роки тому +1

      @@Ubeogesh Commercial Drones have tons of redundancy, from the double flight controllers to simply having more motors/rotors and batteries.
      I can see two motors built in one wheel (EUC) with two synchronised controllers. maybe it´s the way to go...

    • @Ubeogesh
      @Ubeogesh 2 роки тому

      @@-meganeura there is IPS S5 that advertises 2 motors and drivers. But the problem is, if 1 driver short circuits it locks up the motor, so the other won't be able to spin.

  • @marcelhagener6825
    @marcelhagener6825 2 роки тому +1

    Hi Adam,did you watch the video from EUC upgrades and the loose fuse connector nuts on the Sherman? I am so going to wear more safety gear from now on. You were so lucky!

  • @Roskellan
    @Roskellan 2 роки тому +2

    The criticisms keep piling up for this wheel, for all the good points.

  • @LaMereACaniche
    @LaMereACaniche 2 роки тому +1

    Does the Sherman / Sherman max also have cutout issues? That's the wheel I was about to purchase. I'm mainly looking for range and reliability, not insane speed.
    Glad you ride with all that safety gear, stay safe out there!

  • @GeorgeWaltzer
    @GeorgeWaltzer 2 роки тому +1

    ooo, just great 😟. I also changed my tire to this one a month ago. But 70/90 -17 (also, 2.75, not 3", for less weight than with kenda and its blue garbage inside, also

    • @whatsupbudbud
      @whatsupbudbud 2 роки тому +1

      No idea regarding the electronics but I did have a lot of issues with a brushless motor with hall sensors on an electric skateboard. The company (Yuneec) just couldn't fix it no matter how hard they tried.

  • @yevhenii.n
    @yevhenii.n 2 роки тому

    Thank you for useful information!

  • @TheDownloader86
    @TheDownloader86 2 роки тому +1

    I ride my Begode T3 and I am using EUC world and I have warning at 20% of safety margin (whatever than number means I do not know :D) and I limited my speed to 40km/h (that is ussually more then 20% of safety margin). Safety first :).

  • @MikaelLevoniemi
    @MikaelLevoniemi 2 роки тому +1

    Cutting out in a bump? Hm. That would suggest either an accelerometer issue or electrical contact issue. If you know anyone who can dissect electronics i think it would be beneficial for everyone if the boards could be checked for cold welds.

  • @ratmanmurray7137
    @ratmanmurray7137 2 роки тому +1

    Glad you are ok Adam... thank goodness you wear gear. On the tire thing, I wish that experienced riders could buy wheels as a package, but incomplete. I have 3 EUCs, an MCM5, Nikola plus and Sherman... I have after market (Chicway) pedals on all three, the Nikola tire is horrible and needs changing, the Sherman street tyre I don't like so really needs changing... I don't like the stock Sherman pads, don't like the normal oval pads on the Nik or MCM5.... I think that experienced riders should be able to buy wheels with no tyre installed, the motor in place but not tightened (for easy removal) no pedals and no pads. That way, when you order the machine, you order the tyre you want, the pedals you want and the side pads you want... and you don't pay for the parts you are not going to need anyway. I have a drawer full of stock pedals and pads that will never be used and when looking at other new wheels to buy, I know there will be another set of each in the drawer... and additional expense of buying after market things I want. I hate buying an expensive new wheel only to have to pull it apart and fit decent tyre/pedals/pads... if one didn't have to pay for the rubbish they come with ,,, so a lesser buy price, it would be better imo

    • @banzaibob6569
      @banzaibob6569 2 роки тому

      Completely agree and I'm in the same boat. Notably, automobile manufacturers don't sell just one model of car or truck with all the exact same options. Apparently, all Chinese EUC manufacturers thing exactly the same with ZERO marketing.

  • @YaBetterHide
    @YaBetterHide 2 роки тому +12

    I really hope word gets out on this. This is incredibly dangerous. Deeply disappointed in Veteran.

    • @Ubeogesh
      @Ubeogesh 2 роки тому +1

      The word was already out, as Adam mentioned on 1:57.

    • @mangotail6808
      @mangotail6808 2 роки тому

      I think even Veteran engineering team doesn't know what happened, that is why they had more questions than answers

  • @supercurioTube
    @supercurioTube 2 роки тому +3

    Hi Adam!
    Did Leaperkim ask you to share the wheel data from the ride so they can look into it, or nothing at all?
    Also, from the people who got in touch with you about their own Abrams cutout, could you see any pattern?
    If you can share some more details, it would be good for the community to look into it as well (like in forums)

    • @Kekafuch
      @Kekafuch 2 роки тому +4

      I am hoping Adam can use his clout to pressure LeaperKim in making a statement. It would give me piece of mind as I have an Abrams with 700kms. From what I gather online… The cut outs so far seem to be from Europe. USA looks like they received Abrams in the last few weeks and will be interesting to follow any incidents. I have emailed LeaperKim requesting an explanation and they just ask for my motor code and told me NOT to update my firmware.
      The Sherman will cut out if someone is fiddling with the rear 5V light connector and shorting it. EUC Upgrades has shown that the Abrams rear light is not sealed and water ingress. I am wondering if water ingress into the Abrams rear light can cause a short and cut out the wheel like on the Sherman?!?
      Hopefully Adam can consolidate all the cut out info and come up some more information for the public! It would be greatly appreciated.

    • @Mourdraug
      @Mourdraug 2 роки тому

      @@Kekafuch yeah, I have the Abrams with similar mileage and when riding it I feel at the same time very confident since the wheel rides extremely stable, and scared af since I'm afraid of cutout. I did update mine without asking LK, but EUC Adventures had similarly random cutout on stock 2.0.2 firmware so I really doubt that would cause it.

  • @71Dana
    @71Dana 2 роки тому +1

    "Lets ride on the streets where the Abrams shines".
    Embossed "Offroad" on side panels, "Am I a joke to you?".

    • @privileguan9127
      @privileguan9127 2 роки тому

      "Yes", but a nice marketing boost nonetheless.

  • @JesseGarnier
    @JesseGarnier 2 роки тому +2

    Very sorry this happened to you Adam. Also very disappointed in Veteran, their quality and their response. Nearly everyone who buys a Veteran does so for the brand's high-speed capability. I am thankful I have not experienced issues with my Abrams but it is a hard wheel to trust with all the problems.

  • @bensacheri
    @bensacheri 2 роки тому +1

    Have you considered getting a helmet camera like the Maxto M3? For all the riding you do it's continuous recording capability is cheap insurance.

  • @battletoad01
    @battletoad01 2 роки тому

    What are you using for a camera. It has a selfie stick shadow but i dont see u holding anything. And the way it zooms in ive never seen anything like that

  • @tellusaboutthatboxing
    @tellusaboutthatboxing 2 роки тому +2

    Glad you're okay but no footage of the cut-out? Seems odd as you were doing a video at the time with new motorcycle tire, no? Speedy recovery.

    • @MyFaithShines
      @MyFaithShines 2 роки тому +2

      I think it took place after he finished recording

  • @ChrisH0Y
    @ChrisH0Y 2 роки тому

    In one of your previous videos, titled "EUC Companies - This needs to change" you had this Abrams in the foreground.

  • @StarrDust0
    @StarrDust0 2 роки тому

    If one was to take personal transportation and boil it down to the simplest elements, you'd get the monowheel. Originally I wasn't too impressed by these things, esp. when they first came out. I saw the risk for accidents and back then they were under-powered. But they've come a long way. Imo this is the height of modern tech. You have this small little wheel that rides as fast as most cars. In comparison I think bikes give you more stability and safety but nothing is as portable as a monowheel so I think I will seriously be buying one of these in my future.

  • @olympA310
    @olympA310 2 роки тому

    Bonjour Adam et bien encore une belle vidéo dans ce monde de fous 😜😋🛴

  • @macswanton9622
    @macswanton9622 2 роки тому +1

    I think greater diameter reads as a lower speed, atbe.

  • @kosk5394
    @kosk5394 2 роки тому +2

    I find your vids very informative, i'm a big fan. Please keep it up. The wheel didnt turn off after the cutout? Does that mean that you could ride it after? Is that a normal cutout vs having a mosfet issue and then a bricked wheel?

  • @JokoKangaroo
    @JokoKangaroo 2 роки тому +1

    You're not the first one to have this happen.. Our colleague from Russia had the same.. abrams turned off at a speed of 60-70 km

  • @mikefarnkopf9813
    @mikefarnkopf9813 2 роки тому

    One thing I find very cool, is that you cannot see your camera stick on video.👍

  • @venjsystems
    @venjsystems 2 роки тому +1

    since this video there has been 2 firmware updates, can anyone i the community confirm/deny if this has fixed the issue? The Abrams ticks quite a few boxes for my use case and in Australia wheels are hard to get, most of the best models are sold out everywhere.

    • @spartan0du017
      @spartan0du017 Рік тому

      hi had 15 000 km on mine today and never had cutt out ( 4500 km with old firmware ( 2500 km with first batch motor then put new one with upgraded sensor because i broke the rim ) and 11 000 with new one )

  • @ghostshadow1191
    @ghostshadow1191 2 роки тому

    hi,i have a cut off on abrams after last firmware update.last saturday i was driving the abrams, and the engine started sobbing, until it dropped me, the wheel continued for 50 meters until it cut-out and destroyed

  • @connectvanplans
    @connectvanplans 2 роки тому +4

    Glad you had the gear to deal with this crap!
    I find it really weird that many of these Chinese companies seem to plateau in terms of quality and safety and either stay at the same level or regress in newer models. It's almost like there is a block preventing lessons learned from carrying over or perhaps even an active refusal/denial to improve in areas other than performance, at least performance on paper. It's strange, I wonder if it is an ingrained cultural thing?
    Just speculating, it could be that their more effective designers and/or engineers have moved on and didn't bother to document lessons learned for future employees or something like this. Supply chain factors and using inferior components, perhaps even accidentally, could be contributing as well. Hard to say.
    After all of these issues across brands in the last few years, as a customer it's clear to me that no one should have any brand loyalty whatsoever and treat all wheels with skepticism until their reliability is mostly proven, preferably by others. Even batch or generational differences is something to be highly sensitive to.
    Bottom line: I really don't care about new wheels, there are plenty of proven older gen wheels that still provide fantastic riding experiences.

    • @privileguan9127
      @privileguan9127 2 роки тому +2

      It is called capitalism.
      Better engineers, better materials, more testing and quality control.. is just too expensive.
      On top, if the low quality breaks down sooner it is possibly more money made. Unless it is so horrible that peoole won't buy again.
      (Which does not happen enough, is negated because of huge profit margins and a steady flow of new buyers or simply ignorance)
      We need a higher quality western market, but Europe pretty much falls away because of retarded regulations and the US does either not care or can't compete with chinese prices (since most parts are imported anyways)

    • @banzaibob6569
      @banzaibob6569 2 роки тому +1

      @@privileguan9127 ...or are the Chinese attempting to pick us off, one EUC rider at at time.....?

    • @whatsupbudbud
      @whatsupbudbud 2 роки тому

      @@banzaibob6569 lol

  • @Stefonewheel
    @Stefonewheel 5 місяців тому

    Great video as always. Question which wireless microphone are you using on your insta360 camera?

    • @mr_wrongway
      @mr_wrongway  5 місяців тому

      Thanks! I used rode wireless go. I believe it was connected to the go pro this time around and then I synced the clips. I do have an audio adapter for the insta though.

  • @LaggerSVK
    @LaggerSVK 2 роки тому

    From what you have said I would bet the wheel just had not enough torque to balance you after that bump. Either the wheel just underperforms (there is not enough safety margin for some reason) or the bump was too big, wind etc. Have you compared the motocycle tire with the original tire? What if the motocycle tire has just too high of a rolling friction and could be a contributing factor?

  • @davidroberts6594
    @davidroberts6594 2 роки тому +1

    Euc, fun riding but after a few months I had to give it up. Had lots of falls, one mid speed fall, big bruises, one overextended my thumb (a month to heal) and the last one was a hit on my left shoulder, small fracture where my collar bone meets the rotator. 3 months later and my shoulder still hurts but have full movement. This was a permanent injury, so I gave it up. This was also full gear. Gonna stick to scooters.

    • @Ubeogesh
      @Ubeogesh 2 роки тому

      Shame, you waste such valuable experience - instead of learning lessons and improving you give up.
      I've broken both forearms at the same time when I just started in 2017. Left didn't heal perfectly, it is a bit limiting when exercising. I learned what I could from that accident and proceeded riding. Had a few minor issues\crashes since then but still, every time I learned the lesson and became a better\safer rider.
      As for scooters, I am not convinced in the slightest that they are safer... maybe only the slower scooters are safer (because they go slower, duh)

    • @renedugas2396
      @renedugas2396 2 роки тому +1

      @@Ubeogesh it makes you think, hurt despite the protection

    • @renedugas2396
      @renedugas2396 2 роки тому

      I do not understand why the protection does not include protection for the shoulders. it is stupid, during a fall what touches the ground are the extremities of the body

    • @Ubeogesh
      @Ubeogesh 2 роки тому

      @@renedugas2396 why doesn't it? there is shoulder protection, usually called motorcycle armor

    • @renedugas2396
      @renedugas2396 2 роки тому +1

      @@Ubeogesh I believe that if you go faster than 20 kilometers per hour, you must have motorcycle gear. I think it's more dangerous than a motorcycle. I'm going to lose weight to fit into my leather motorcycle pants and I'm going to see if I'm afraid of falling. 3 years ago I remember that while riding on my motorcycle dressed in leather I even wanted to try to fall so much that I felt protected to see what it looked like. if it gives me the same feeling and I've managed to lose weight, I buy one. if my project fails, I don't buy it. I believe that falling by putting the foot on the ground accelerates the fall, I believe that it is better not to try to resist

  • @spartan0du017
    @spartan0du017 Рік тому

    i just hit 15 000 km with this wheel , she's so good and new firmware solve cutt out problem , u need to make an update video adam ^^ =)
    i only change bearings at 2400 km and the bottom parts of the frame at 10 000 km by renforced one making by russians guys, it litteraly change the wheel because now she don't make random craking noises and u can make one foot with , in 2 week i will put new tyre ( michelin city extra ) , just wait for new trolley because handle is broken and trolley stuck .

  • @markyoung1622
    @markyoung1622 2 роки тому +1

    nice to see someone say garbage is garbage. the abrams was/is an attempted cash grab from those that want it all for the prices charged. moving in the right direction

  • @SONICCRX
    @SONICCRX 2 роки тому

    Ask a question get a question I remember when a professor said that, I thought about getting it cuz I have the veteran Sherman, I still use it everyday back and forward to work, I have to say I got lucky, I got a Good wheel

  • @v1991c
    @v1991c 2 роки тому +1

    Adam its been some time since i checked your videos: given all the wheels that you have now, if you had to choose ONE wheel and you'd have to sell the rest - which one would it be?
    Im glad you're ok!!

  • @RodrigoSalfer
    @RodrigoSalfer 2 роки тому

    The update addressing this problem was release today v2.0.11

  • @PusTIP
    @PusTIP 2 роки тому

    Previous video was about cars and motorcycles. So that's why most of the people rides conventional vehicles. Euc always will be a niche product. Hope u well, and basically u're lucky enough not to get serious injury. EUC have big downside. You need to be completely packed in armor, and during summer this is a joy killer. Sad but true, EUCs still far from perfect way of transportation, but they're fun. That's why we're riding them.

    • @privileguan9127
      @privileguan9127 2 роки тому

      Same goes for motorcycles. Still, people ride them.
      If inner/intercity roads would be improved and EUCs rode at 30-35 km/h on well regulated lanes the accidents would probably decrease drastically.

  • @Index-o1234
    @Index-o1234 2 роки тому

    That's ashame for Veteran Sherman bad enough there are imperfections in the road one must avoid but cut-out take the danger risks to a higher level..When is the V-13 Review coming out? Supply chain issues have really delayed it.

  • @billybonapartejr.2205
    @billybonapartejr.2205 2 роки тому +1

    I don’t have a EUC but I am going to buy my fist soon.. trying to decide between a Inmotion V12 or a before RS torque.. any recommendations.

    • @Mars_Bless
      @Mars_Bless 2 роки тому +2

      Wait before buying a V12, until they fix the mosfet issues.

    • @-meganeura
      @-meganeura 2 роки тому +2

      @@CaptainCandycorn No EUC is safe dude. xD

    • @martinsaunders2942
      @martinsaunders2942 2 роки тому

      Both of those will be hard work to learn on, they are both heavy. Maybe think about a V10 or similar to learn on…and after your first 1500 Kms move on to something bigger and more powerful.

    • @billybonapartejr.2205
      @billybonapartejr.2205 2 роки тому

      @@martinsaunders2942 I have a real unicycle with pedals it’s a schwinn.. any thoughts on the Nicola AR edition.. it should be safer right it’s older so more battle tested…

  • @coverup7428
    @coverup7428 2 роки тому

    Hey sorry to hear circa your accident; hope you are Ok . Dam this is worrying as in traffic it can rapidly become a life /death situation. Leaperkim must identify cause of these otherwise any goodwill they built wit vet will quickly dissipate. Take care Adam.

  • @renedugas2396
    @renedugas2396 2 роки тому

    displacements in euc whatever they are are forced to be carried out at less than 30 km / hour both by their physical design limit and by the infrastructure which receives them in collaboration with other modes of displacement, in particular those of automobiles which are the main reason for it. pass this speed the physics of the elements in place, both that of the product and that of the infrasructure in place orders to pass to another type of vehicle or means of transport unless you want to serve as human betta test of a currently unattainable ideal

  • @onmywheel
    @onmywheel 2 роки тому +1

    The more I see criticism on the new wheels, the more I realize the lack of professionalism of these companies and given the money we have to spend to acquire one of those, I feel wise to stick with my Sherman.

  • @LeandroLoan
    @LeandroLoan 2 роки тому

    Do you think EUCs can be influenced by eletromagnetic or sonic interference? Intentionally or not.

  • @clobbyhops
    @clobbyhops 2 роки тому

    They’ll get the veteran Abrams perfected by 2023, so have faith their listening to everyone’s dislikes

  • @slidersgliders5516
    @slidersgliders5516 2 роки тому

    I feel it's still a gotway wheel. It is their X engineers that is building this wheel...
    I was going to get a veteran Sherman Max but I think I'm just going to wait and stick with the s20 eagle. I'm gambling with the V12 now 🤞 hopefully it is ok at 1200 miles.

    • @eheas320
      @eheas320 2 роки тому +1

      I swapped my first v12 board at about 150 miles, after I fried it with an accidental spin test. I picked it up while it was on, and then set it back down while it was spinning. Dead. On my new board, (same specs, just replacement November 2021) I have 1800 miles

    • @AuRowe
      @AuRowe 2 роки тому

      @@eheas320 dope I'm getting the V12 HT. Inmotion still seems the safest despite recent cutouts

  • @electric_rider2044
    @electric_rider2044 2 роки тому

    Do you think it got something to do with the hall sensors?

  • @theraid100
    @theraid100 2 роки тому +1

    Kinda glad you didn't show the crash

  • @wheeliebrady9294
    @wheeliebrady9294 2 роки тому

    Were you standing or seated?

  • @BrockJudkins
    @BrockJudkins 2 роки тому

    I have that tire on my Sherman and also like it, but it catches a little more air on bumps at 40 psi than I'm used to. Were you running high psi?

    • @ivanmorales3265
      @ivanmorales3265 2 роки тому +1

      He said about 2.5 bar. That's about 36 psi