Kingdom Come Deliverance 2 Spiritual Reflection
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- Опубліковано 10 лют 2025
- While the world of KCD2 is compelling despite the drama, there's another aspect which the controversies seem to have overlooked.
Referenced WAB vid (please do not pester Mac):
• kingdom Come Deliveran...
This is why Christians need to start making games about Christian history.
@RichardCheese-o2m imagine making an open world game where you play Barabas, lock eyes with Christ as the crowd screams for your release and his execution... then have the player choose whether or not to follow Jesus...
If the player makes Barabas a follower of Jesus post crucifixion, he becomes a key figure in sneaking the letters and communication of the early church.
If the player chooses to not follow Jesus, barabas becomes a central leader in the rebellion against Rome that leads to the destruction and annihilation of Jerusalem in 70 AD.
There is incredibly compelling game play behind every aspect of Church history.
@RichardCheese-o2m I think with today's technology there's no particular reason a decently funded studio couldn't go after an open world experience but I have some ideas for pixel art / 2d stuff too, would be less directly "Christian" as most of those ideas would be in a fantasy or science fiction setting, but it would have some Tolkien and Lewis like escapism, eucatastrophe and moral story telling aspects.
The Crusades would be an interesting subject, or the Eastern Roman Empire (Byzantium) which was Christian and tried to hold out against a certain religion swept out from the Middle East and destroyed the civilization of Late Antiquity, raiding, plunder and converting by coercion - which plunged the known World into the Dark Ages (this was the cause of the Dark Ages, not the Fall of Rome two centuries earlier where the management changed but the culture and knowledge were mostly left intact).
Someone tweeted at the game's director and asked why all the churches and cathedrals are inaccessible, even though in the first game they were a strong feature.
The director replied that they just didn't have enough time to do it "the right way".
But they had time to make a whole mission about defending a synagogue from evil Christians.
Unbelievable.. just, unbelievable. I was so hyped for this game when it was announced man. Such a heart breaking thing this turned out to be.
and also a muslim who lectures the player about how much more moral and advance islamic civilization is
Christians attacking Jewish synagogues definitely happened in Middle Ages Europe. I find it adds to the realism I thought that’s what we wanted
@@Akesiosjj-k6o What's the issue with that? Ever heard of lying?
@@Akesiosjj-k6o bro he gives his opinion on Christianity its not a lecture its a character with a worldview. Also, they're literally making a dlc entirely focused on a monestary
Hi Father, Having no Church to enter in KCD2 is not only Lazy, but also disgusting. The Church was the community center of people in 1403, architectural wonders that people visit from far and wide. Especially the Church in Kuttenberg. You could visit all the churches in KCD1, even the Kickstars got their OWN chapel. Like seriously, what happend to pilgrims and Sunday service? Have a blessed day
Not really all of them in the 1st game. Thas small church at Rovna was ou of limits. Nevertheless I agree with You.
They said they would love to but they don't have enough time. Im guessing its not a simple thing to create the church, specially when its design is very unique compared to other in game houses, probably have to carefully examine the interiors of the church IRL to create it.
@ no mate, that’s not the case to be honest. Even KCD1 had a lot of small churches that you can enter. No cheap excuses please, it’s part of the world they created. Europe during that time was religious, and missing out on a place to worship is very sad to be honest. Even a small chapel would worked. No, they wanted to create a fantasy world without the history and culture part of the place they recreated. It’s sad.
@@johnofbrabant You could enter them yes. But Henry couldn't do much more than enter, maybe donate to the church, maybe give a quick word of prayer and meet the church officials, and move on. One of Henry's last tasks within the game, was sneaking into a church under a fake name to gain info he shouldn't have exactly had, which is also where he happened to meet his first gay person. I'll say the world would feel much more realistic with those elements, something feels off hearing that these things are missing, but I've not played the game, so I can't confirm they do or don't exist. Just realize you were never forced to go into churches a lot outside of stories, besides a dev saying Henry was Christian and the few times he himself had said so.
@@SkrumpGang they promoted the game INSIDE a Church 🤯
they have a prayer mechanic in this game, there is aspect of repentance in it and people tend to treat each other better based on how you treat others. i've played this game for at least 6 hours and by greeting and praying, others have been kind to me.
the fact that it is optional to be kind is quite great.
@RichardCheese-o2mI remember in Vampire The Masquerade Bloodlines, and in Fallout New Vegas that most people couldn't be bothered remembering your name until after you did them a solid. Which typically meant engaging them in dialogue with fairly long conversations and completing a long, relatively complex sidequest for them that is to their favor.
Modern so-called """""RPGs""""" today don't even have a Faction Reputation system for general groups to like or hate you based on your actions towards them. And completing basic fetch quests give out so many mechanical and material rewards but the character *_writing_* is just bland and shallow.
I mean ist still a Game and its Not Like being Christian and faithfull IS rewarded that much in this world
@@laisphinto6372that's because being a good person isn't rewarded in a time of war, that's the whole point of the game. The game is set during a time of chaos where any new face you see could be your last
@RichardCheese-o2m well no duh, I meant externally rewarded. Honour in war will quickly lead to your death unless you're incredibly skilled and in a good socio-economic position. When your enemy will win at any cost (as war brings out the worst types of people that shouldnt be a surpris), being a good person doesn't pay off. It may nontheless be good to be honourable in war, but that's a far harder road covered in almost insurmountable obstacles and is in fact a way you can play the game, it Is how I am playing the game, but inevitably being a good samaritan is unlikely to be rewarded when the man you're helping Is a cutthroat mercenary
@RichardCheese-o2m and then a turk raiding party comes into your trust based general command and kills everyone.
Just wanted to say as a fellow catholic family man and gamer with 3 little gamers, I greatly appreciate what you're doing here on UA-cam and love the insights you put into every video and review. God Bless!
3:25 Looks like father Padre has some repenting to do with all those red hand icons on his loot. 🤣
Well, I have mentioned before that my favorite game ever is Thief: The Dark Project :)
@@Pixel_Padre Still remember that jumps scare at the Moira Asylum.
@@Pixel_PadreIncredible, I love the Thief series
The game accurately reflects the paradoxes of medieval re-enactment in the Czech Republic and elsewhere in Europe. The reenactor scene is still stuck in the 1990s. Most reenactors are enthusiasts for the material side of medievalism, where they keep improving and their creations look impressive. This, however, also means that the vast majority of reenactors are only technically and craft oriented people. When it comes to the social, political, philosophical and religious side of the Middle Ages, these enthusiasts are mostly semi-educated and content with superficial clichés. Mr. Vávra is a very good example of such a semi-educated enthusiast from the 90s who has fulfilled his dream of a game set in the Middle Ages. As a result, the characters in the game are mostly modern caricatures of "typical medieval characters" and the plots are similarly silly. But despite of this the game is visually very pleasing and entertainig. As to the amount of woke content the game reminds me somewhat of the Robin Hood movie with Kevin Costner and Morgan Freeman.
An insightful take on things. The best 'invention' of the Middle Ages in my opinion is not an item, but 'defenestration' (look it up !) of a corrupt political class :) Development of the Scientific Method in the West was also a game changer - replacing the primacy of axiomatic reasoning from Greek philosophers to the empirical reasoning of 'natural philosophers' (that we now call 'physicists', 'chemists' etc).
This is honestly such a perfectly balanced good review.
I think the writers don't know how to portray sincerely religious people.
It is quite apparent in the first game, they are not big fans of Christianity. I think there was only one slight hint in the entire game (the walking pilgrimage) that Christianity is being portrayed as positive in some way. Otherwise it is always shown as oppressive, corrupt, ignorant, etc.
I was disappointed playing KCD1, hearing that it was a "Christian Game" but then realizing that while it takes place in a Christian cultural setting, the writing and thematic commentary is far from "Christian."
@@AgentEarth-r1h "Christian" game wouldnt be set in that period in first place. Its short time before hussites and medieval period is worst period to show positive aspects of christianity unless game is about building cathertrals and churches or hospitals or saving books
Christian game would probably be set in times of persecutions of Christians by Romans. Would show pagans as cartoonishly evil and corrupted (its not dificult looking at roman history xD) and christians as innocent and hope of the poor or something like that.
Sounds like good idea for non combat oriented rpg tbh
That’s because secular ideas are all routed in self interest, so they can’t believe someone might not think that way
They turned our boys Henry and Hans into British cigarettes and locked us out of the churches. This was meant to insult and offend Christians.
And Henry 27 enters Hans' 15 year old back door. The game even says Hans is "underage" and 15 years old at the start date of the game.. The dev's response on X was well, people married 12 year old girls back then too..
@@hotchowderI always thought the argument "it was legal back then" so weird. They completely ignore the creepy aspect of a grown man watching such a scene, and worse, being responsible for animating such a scene knowing they are underage...
@@hotchowder 1. Henry's not 27.
2. Hans isn't 15, he might be 15, or not. But the game clearly treats him as an adult.
@@forests.9597Lol! In the previous game characters outright say hans is a minor... Cope harder, f slur.
@@basedshaman6183 actors arent underage to be fair
Thanks Father. Great points. I’m keeping my wallet shat for this one as it’s full of that subtle wokism.
My god he has a persecution complex so sees messaging everywhere. People aren't overly nice to eachother bc the game is set during a time of chaos. It's like going to Yemen and complaining about people not being nice to you, bohemia is at war with itself and a foreign king. It's not subtle woke messaging its depicting a time of horror and chaos as a time of horror and chaos. War is hell and no religion or social contract will ever change that
@@beggerinohio2200 if you're blind, it doesn't mean everyone else is.
The game touts its "historical accuracy" but the historical accuracy seems to start and stop at the combat, and general aesthetics. It seems like the storyline reads less like something that happened back then and more like a hollywood script larping as a shakespearean comedy. It feels too "safe". Nothing to feel attatched to the characters.
In the review where Vávra talked about critical drinker and asmongold, he did compare this game to movies quite a lot. In another review, he also talked about this game having a a really long script and compared it to tv series. And having played just 35 hours of this game so far, it seems like he is trying to be a movie director lol. The game is still great, I just wish it didn't feel like hollywood so often.
correction: it wasn't a review actually, it was a podcast
Sounds like a personal problem
@patrik6933 oh shut up bro fight me bro fight me
Not even the general aesthetics. Nobody even has medieval haircuts.
Spot on. This will probably be the next strategy for woke: stop with the forced inclusion for a while, and focus on the demonization of the opposite side.
It's not new tho: they did that with christianity in movies from the last 60 years. Those films, novels, games, had much more quality, but the bashing of conservativism, christianity or any traditional value was there, and was FAR MORE EFFECTIVE and smart on their part.
I think they will just return to that for a while. Post 2015 wokeness exposed itself too much and was eventually punished for it (even if they also reached the peak).
Now they'll do a tactical retreat and use more smart tactics. This game will probably teach them a lot.
I'm not disagreeing with the overall point - maybe that will indeed be the strategy moving forward - but where do you see the "demonization" of Christianity in KCD2 specifically? In what specific ways does the game demonize Christians?
@@johndeighan2495 It is said in the video: The society depicted in KCD2 is very christian and people are very shitty. So the message is: look how hypocrite christians are! They go around saying "Jesus Christ be praised" but stab each other constantly and doesn't follow the teachings.
I don't know if it's something of KCD2, but in the first one this wasn't a thing. Sure there were awful people, but there were also a LOT of good ones. Like it should be in every society.
@@johndeighan2495 Christians have a persecution complex bc most of them are somewhat psychotic (you have to be to listen to the voices in your head lol) but the game depicts a time of chaos and war, so while it may depict some Christians as bad people its because they have to be to survive or the person they just trusted could turn out to be a roaming bandit
@@johndeighan2495 You are forced to join the Jews and defend them from Christians and a Muslim from Mali keeps yapping about how barbaric and stupid Christians and white people are while you can only apologies to him for the "stupidity" of your own people.
@johndeighan2495 ya I have to say this game seems to actually lean positive to Christianity overall even if thru a post Christian libertarian lense with tons of negative leaning too.
As a Christian who enjoys playing videogames this channel is marvellous to me.
You are the only person who managed to say his views in a polite way father. Everyone is so blinded by hate that they themselves don't realize it blocks your way into heaven. I have bought the game and do not regret it, but I agree with your video, simoly because you chose your words and managed to keep your emotions back for the glory of God. Bless you
emotions can be useful. Have you heard of righteous anger? This situation calls for it.
@Wilantonjakov this is a video game, its fiction, its just a line of code. You are doing a witchhunt that you gain nothing from. Its pointless about a game as if it hurt you or your family directly. You want to justify anger? Look outside your window, where the real problems are. You have to move on with your life, and try doing something good in real life. Pray, confess, help the poor, talk to a loved one. I will pray for your soul because Christ will win in the end
@@AB-bg7os The idea that it's "just a game" and not what it actually is (propaganda) is laughable.
@@AB-bg7os Many said so when communist took power and pumped many pamplets etc... Many priest took the price as many of their followers for that ignorance. Look at middle east, first it was only some guy that claimed to be a new prophet then later turned out be an warlord that cleansed almost all of Christendom from the middle east. Dont forget that new and old testament is inline with each other. God never allowed evil be among his people even it is just an animal that was uncleaned or sacrilige.
@DruuzilTechGames The extent you delude yourself into believing you're doing anything productive or beneficial is what's laughable.
Whether you'll admit it or not, you're just desperate for things to be angry about because it makes you feel something. Same with everyone obsessed with outrage these days.
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The jabs taken at the Catholic Church are the most eye rolling for me. In the first game I was always sighing and saying "that's not how you become a Benedictine monk", or "that's not how the Inquisition acts in a backwater village in the middle of nowhere", or "Churches didn't have that at that time", or the priest who is a drunk and has a concubine being a fan of Jan Hus (because of course Jan Hus had to appear somewhere).
In this second game it seems they toned it down a bit. But you can still find phrases like "one can certainly pray without precious ornaments" description on a crucifix item.
The thing is, we are so used to the caricatures and straw-men people make of the Church that I don't see complaints about this. Sure, it's FAR from the caricatures people make of the Church nowadays. But to see such care given in some aspects but then little jabs thrown just for the sake of throwing jabs.
I love the first game, and I'm loving the second one even more. But that's just something I had to get out of my chest.
Anyway. I'm praying for all of you. I'm happy that Father brought this community together. Please pray for me.
tbh it is beeing slavic foult. if you come to our countries you will see that we are like that. and the czech especialy since they had one of the first protestant movement. i belive it is based on that and the everyday life of the tram since they are czech
@@MilesDei95I’m from a Poland and I don’t even understand what you wanted to say. Slavic Christians are highly orthodox.
@@PLKinka yes but if you are around not so beliving ones you wll hear how they talk about the church. in czech republic it is way more common to hear it unfortunetly, so it will seap into their game
@@MilesDei95 The Czech republic is totally fallen though, you´re broken it seems if there´s nothing that´s not dragged in the dirt and no striving to betterment.
@@Br1cht unfortunetly but that is a big reality. i personaly was a atheist for a long time. and after my conversion i have started to see it. everywhere ppl make fun of priests, Christians etc. some they have a good reason, some just hate it. Czech republic is indeed in a very bas state, but one can pray for it to change. Ppl assumed kcd2 will be a Christian game, but they forgot that rightwing ppl are also secular. i personaly was very interested in ability for henry to pray etc
Given the inspiration behind the games, the most sympathetic Vavra will be to "Christianity" is to the Hussites.
In other words, he'll be extremely anti-catholic.
That's the Czech thing to do. They're very proud of their rebellious and protestant history.
Sigismund is the bad guy. And Sigismund was at the Council of Constance when Jan Hus was condemned as a heretic.
And Jan Hus is a national hero.
But that love of Hus has little to do with love of God and genuine faith, and more to do with the love of personal liberty and love of country in the face of a supposedly tyrannical and oppressive Church.
It is important to remember that while Christians are called to avoid sin. No Christian has been successful at avoiding sinning all together.
Clearly doesn't apply to the devs since they did it on purpose.
@@iamnottheplayer6445 did what on purpose? Depict a time of WAR AND CHAOS accurately? 1403 was a time of war and chaos, its not depicting normalcy in christendom but a period of chaos, that's why a lot of people are paranoid and malicious, bc otherwise they'd be dead
Very true. One of the CONSTANT attacks on Christianity, is pointing out an (allegedly) sinful person who identifies as Christian, and then trying to say that it shows the hypocrisy and futility of Christians.
It's like they are holding Christians to the literal standard of Jesus. People are Christians because they WANT to be good, not because they are already angels.
@@beggerinohio2200 who hurt you? Have you considered prayer to calm down?
This is a really good distinction that we should be wary of. A lot of people fighting against the woke culture are in the end just as secular as their opponents, and don’t give a whit about anything further than media not having identity politics. I’ve even heard people call Christians “the original woke” on account of the moral panics of the late 20th century, and if anything would be glad to see more games like KCD2. We can only pray that in the end our favorite pastime is not hollowed out into the banal waste people used to accuse it of being, but healed and given a new life that speaks of The Good like we know it can be. God Bless!
I have said this everywhere I can... it's not even about the gay scenes so much as how nudity and gratituitous violence themselves do nothing to tell good stories.
@@spartakos3178oh my god, the game is set during a WAR, the land is AT WAR WITH ITSELF, villages are constantly being raided and bandits litter the countryside, nobles have taken sides and brutally fight, as historically wars went. The game never claims to be portraying christendom as how it normally was but how it was during a time of war, no religion will change the paranoia and horror caused by warfare
7:22 is when the title discussion starts
The stories of King Arthur and Robin Hood are really more indicative of what life was truly like. Because those stories of chivalry, even if mythological, spring from what the culture was really like. Basically, this game has very little chivalry.
Concerning the going in the churches I was rather surprised to find you can’t visit them especially the churchc in kuttenburg which was said to be a peace of the game in its first reveal trailer. It confused me as the churches of the period where the best of architecture of the time and was a huge community centre for the populace.
Thanks for adding your voice to games father us Catholic gamers appreciate it.
What KC:D had going for it at times was that it had genuine RPG elements. You could choose different paths to solve, or exacerbate, certain scenarios and that had consequences. During my first play through, I was the aspiring knight. A friend of mine instead played as a rogue and scoundrel, even had a specialty in stealing from churches!
thanks for the video, Father
The messages get significantly more blatant in the latter half of the game, I'm thankful to have been spoiled about it. Henry gets a great deal of lecturing by an Islamic fella and several Jews about the barbarity of Christianity and Europe and it's so absurdly on the nose it could be mistaken for satire. I will not put up with a second of it, what a shame.
Well, the result of that "barbarism" was the creation of evangelical churches (Martin Luther...) and christianity getting slightly more liberal/open minded and reformed...
Whereas islam went the exact opposite way, got several "prophets" who turned their views more backwards and extreme resulting in Taliban, Al Quaida and Isis of today.
Similar with certain jewish groups today. Just look at Netanjahu and his political group to see the jewish version of Taliban.
For the time period the game is supposed to be in though it's mostly correct.
your barbaric and irrational beliefs are ruining your life and the lives of your children
I know hwy you may have opion like it, but... Is it accurate to have a buffon of Islamic fella and several Jews which talks this way? They are talking like it, coz they want to preach it is better, no matter how it is in reality.
Total historical revisionism. but it makes sense once you dig deeper into the making of this game
For most of human history, people have viewed Europe and Western/Central Europeans as unwashed barbarians. The Greeks, Romans, Arabs, Persians, etc. They all had that view. It's only really in the past few hundred years where that perception has changed.
Daniel Vavra and WarHorse Studios should be investigated for including Man on Child sodomy. Saying that its optional is not an excuse.
there is no child sodomy stop spreading that lie
@@milliondoller06 no you stop Vavra's simp-bot and PDF apologist. Hans is 15 yo, it's literally in the Codex: born in 1388. game year is 1403.
So he's around 15 - same as Vavra's bots I. Q. lol
@@bdleo300 If your dumbass actually played the game codex is actually based on the real life person of history and Hans is actually age up in the story and not directly the same person
The other priest is propably only person who didnt go insane while doing the sasau monastery quest.
@@borecsalat6101 I loved that quest
It has been noted by the developers that the roadmap for releases in DLC include one DLC centered around the church. They just aren't ready yet. People need to stop complaining about this.
On top of all the historical inaccuracies and lack of christendom, the codex in the game claims that Easter, St. Walpurgis Night, Christmas, All Souls' Day, and Advent are just renamed pagan traditions, despite the fact there's no historical evidence to back that disrespectful claim against our traditions.
¿You think you invented the wheel?
Really? Surface level pop history nonsense in a game that claims itself to be historically accurate is quite ironic.
You do realize several days of the week are named after several pagan gods. These holidays didnt pop-out of a vacuum. They were gradually formed in a previous pagan culture. Sure, why we celebrate them is Christian, but allot of the aesthetic of these holidays are pagan in orgin, which is ok. It's like a glimpse in history. You aren't committing a sin when you put up a Christmas tree on Christmas. God will, often turn a previous evil into a good. See it less like a mockery of Christianity and more of a conquering of good over evil.
They also say infant baptism started in the late middle ages, lol. Ya the in game encyclopedia is trashy.
@@basedshaman6183 Days of the week with demonstratible pagan roots even in their etymologies =/= Christian traditions that have no evidence of pagan roots
Father Pixelman! I don't know how I was so lucky to find this channel. You are the only one who has said what I have been ranting to the internet for the last several years! KCD1 WAS NOT A CHRISTIAN GAME!!! It was CRITICIZING AND MOCKING faith!!!
Although I will say, you are veiling this point somewhat - and fair enough, perhaps only those who understand really need to hear it.
I just hope the people who hear your commentary, have the discernment ability to work out what you are saying about propaganda and ideological/spiritual warfare.
Thank for the review, Father. Despite the encroachment of unnatural and untruthful woke narratives into games the majority of people want to play not only heroes instead of scoundrels, but very morally upright heroes too. For example, in Baldur's Gate 3 the most popular class (apparently by far) was the Paladin - the players not only want to be powerful, they also wanted to to Good (otherwise they could have chosen the morally-neutral Fighter class). The wokesters ('Post Modernists' whose ideology rejects the Christian morality in 'Modernism') are actually massively outnumbered, and they know it. Unfortunately those that are either actively or at least culturally Christian don't seem to realize our huge numerical advantage. Fortunately, political developments are leading to defunding of global propagandists who portray the tiny number of wokesters as more significant in society than the tiny, weird fringe they actually inhabit.
I really liked the Mad Men comparison, Father.
For me the biggest problem is with the developer trying to hide or deflect the issue when asked about it before and during launch of the game . Developers can make games the way they want it, they just should give honest answers to the questions. The behavior of the developers in thi case indicate ill intention on their side, cause they sure were afraid of loose sales if they were forthcoming with the issue raised by gamers.
Haven’t played this or the first game (I’ve watched my husband play the first one) but I find it shocking how this game seems to get a lot wrong with how good the first game seems to be. Probably trying to chase more mass appeal I’m guessing.
No no no this guy is genuinely just wrong. The game depicts a time of chaos and war, people are paranoid and mean to eachother bc any new face could be a hidden bandit or the sign of an invading army. The game portrays war as war, a horrifying act, just play the game its writing is actually great
@@beggerinohio2200stop this shit spam.
You didn't finish the first game? I'm calling the Vicar!!!
Thank you so much!
Nobody is asking for a perfect idyllic version of medieval Bohemia, but there is no denying that the game has degraded the Christian aspect compared to KCD1. It might be a good game per se but the unnecessary same sex twist, probably done to please corporate sponsors, is in the first place out of canon related to Henry of the first game, second it is thoroughly disgusting (I mean, even very woke games usually don't show porn) and it is complicated by the fact that Hans the gay lover is 15 YEARS OLD.
Hans isn't 15, he was historically but both he and Henry are in their early 20s in the game
Considering his stated date of birth in the game and the year the second game is happening, he's 15.
@@charlesduke9750 historical date of birth /=/ in game date of birth
@@charlesduke9750 Henry himself is like 15/16 in theory
@ Yeah... Actually a 15 year old in any era including the medieval was hardly fit for warfare, especially melee in heavy armor as Henry and Hans do. Regarding sexual debauchery hetero or homo I also find it dubious for 15 year olds in Medieval times.
basically every woman in the game is portrayed as a sex object. I never pre-ordered the game. I never fell for the propaganda. Biases aside, it is incredibly boring. The hype will ware of and people will realize it for what it is, probably. There is nothing worthwhile about this game, besides the graphics.
almost like the first game
@@milliondoller06 nonsense... the first game was much better, even looks better than this cartoonish sIop2
Another solid video, Father! Keep up the great work!
You know back in the day I did use to write gaming reviews for christian web service. There are lots of things to talk about, and even more get lost to. I mean there are many talking points, and maybe for the sake of reflection it doesn't need to be same than everyone else is steaming about. These kind of games invite us to talk about topic of game and differences between world views. Medieval mindset is set apart from our own and hence it really merits some reflection. Like what 'God be with you' means, in todays secular world we might not understand it, and take it as pushing some agenda rather what it really ment for medieval people.
Thanks Father for making alive the words of Benedict XVI "...digital continent, like geographical ones, requires the commitment of the faithful to evangelize this new mission territory..." and Gaming imo, is a place full of people looking for It too! I consider KCD I a hidden gem (with its flaws especially in terms of QoL...btw I'm trying to complete it these days... don't want to be part of the heretics 😂) and (even if still haven't played yet) I believe that KCD II will be a master piece and a great opportunity for many to realize or re-discover that Medieval Age was one of the best period in our History!
Thanks for the great first impressions on the game and the citation of Gothic and Skyrim together with your advice show your huge and long experience on the field! Jesus Christ be praised!😉
Will you play Gothic 1 Remake when it comes out?
First one was in my top 3 favoritr games, but with all the forced changes in KCD2, I will not buy or play it. I am not interested in it anymore
Oh and I strongly recommend the polish mod Archolos for Gothic 2, since you mentioned it. No forced changes paid by big companies in there
Thanks for reviewing this Father so I don’t have to play this woke mess, to completely leave out the church in this game and to make the main character have homosexual tendencies is disappointing, and I can’t bring myself to play this. Maybe I’m wrong but that’s what I heard
The developers said they'll be adding churches in later, it's a LOT of work to accurately model the inside of the churches in the region and there are plenty of shrines, a prayer mechanic, even a pilgrimage mechanic. Sexual fluidity was generally a lot less frowned upon in the time period the game was set, it wasn't liked, and if it got in the way (stopped marriages, happened between nobles and so on) it would be suppressed but the homosexuality is actually really sensibly done. I thought they'd have it be very obvious and in your face but it really isn't, it's depicted how it was, out of sight, subtle, and generally intentionally ignored
Playing the game now, I'd say there is more than a fair share of characters who will act nobly and more is hidden behind speech checks, I haven't felt the usual heavy-handed manipulation at least. The features - from greetings to indulgencies (basically an alms box) or pilgrimages - incorporate religion on a surface, observer level, but from what I've seen so far, the general portrayal of these seems to be that of acting in good faith. In Czechia where I'm from, the period is traditionally presented with the official church corrupt (indulgencies, wealth & secular power, martyring Jan Hus) but the resulting reformist movement is integral to the national identity so it's hard to imagine what I see as a patriotic game to go out of its way to paint Christianity as such in a negative light.
But it doesn't portray Christianity in a negative light it portrays a time of war and chaos in the country, any time of war and chaos will degrade any religion or social contract
@@beggerinohio2200 Absolutely - none of it makes it a game for kids, the violence alone takes integrity even in an adult, I'm playing a good, honest Henry, but he will still have to kill before the credits can roll. It's more about navigating the world to one's best ability I guess, same as the real world.
@@beggerinohio2200stop copy pasting your trash spam.
Its gay.
The First game had Bohemians and a few Hungarians, historically accurate to a few kilometres of Bohemia at that time. 8 hours into KCD2 ive meet Black people , Jewish people, Gypsies, Italians, people that sound Irish, even Spanish, moxed race people,Homo sexuals,,, all sorts of people that were very unlikely to be in that part of the world at that time, and impossible for them to be a few kilometres apart..Its as Diverse as California, or an Ubisoft games....Its literally everything Games Journalist's demanded from the first game and the reason this studio gained a cult fanbase because they stood up to the games Journalist's .
And that is my biggest issue, they bent the knee to the woke, gamer hating games Journalist's. They proved even the most defiant studio with common sense of their side could be manipulated and cohersed into bowing to these Woke Corperate games Media and Consultant demands. And that is so fkn depressing. No game is safe, nothing from the Western games development industry will ever be authentic ever again and even eastern games aren't safe if War Horse cucked for them.
These people hate us and they have massive control over how our games are made.
It's crazy they couldn't add churches or haircuts into the game but they could add a whole jewish quarter side quest even though there were no jews in that part of Europe until 1880
Jews lived in the area since 10th century, gypsies since 13th century. Homosexual lived everywhere back then as today and other europeans travelled to other countries.
Jews and gypsies lived in Europe(esp in Eastern and Central Europe) for centuries by that time, same with Middle Eastern travelers. American edukayshon?
The studio has a cult fanbase because they've made a great and unique game. Politics obsessed weirdos are small part of it.
@@krylotik literally not true, the jewish quarter in prague is a thousand years old
the "joker 2" of video games
just compare cinematic trailer of kcd2 and how it feels to kcd1 trailers
You cannot enter churches in the game!
Hello! Have you ever played Pentiment?
Game is just a Woke lie.. I am glad that Metro and Stalker series resist.
Thanks for the review. Ya, this game was a disappointment with all that controversy around it. Its not really overtly woke as some say (though from my limited play time), and though it portrays alot of darkness as you said, most good deeds in the game are associated with 'being a Christian.' There's even a side-quest I did where reconciling a blood feud the guy says you sound like his priest when you finally convince him to stop. Likewise, the early main villain goes on about his own atheism while torturing and has a gay lover. I have heard it gets worse as the game progresses though, but those are only online rumors.
However, there seems to be much more immorality around every corner and the association of friendship with sexuality I know is in the game even if I haven't seen it. Maybe I missed that in the first, but this is a big step in the same tired old wrong direction for 'modern audiences.'
Patiently waiting for a modder to remove the moor merchant and the jewish missions. Both are alien in Bohemia. But we all know Daniel Vavra's ethnicity and sadly he suffers from the same "revolutionary spirit" his kin possesses.
Hahahaha least hateful christian:
Jews have lived in Europe since they were booted from Palestine please get a grip. In a large city like kuttenburg they would've existed
@@HzrdHaze no surprise there. The nose always does the talking 👃
Henry max out his strength, he can kill anything in a couple of hits. He can break shields as well.
I loved the first game
I haven't played the second but I don't like the changes I've been seeing
Give it a go, the sexual fluidity Is overrepresented yes but its accurately represented. Homosexuals were not really demonised and hated as they were in the high modern period, generally at this time same sex relations were subtle, ignored and out of sight of the public, but mostly unpunished, that's how the game depicts it and it's done pretty well. The game also portrays a time of war and chaos in bohemia, so paranoia and distrust would be realistic for the time, its not "subtle messaging" it's accurately portraying hoe chaos and war degrades the foundations of society
@@beggerinohio2200stop shill spamming
Father, there is literal pedestary in this game. It should be condemned. There is a ton more heresy and blasphemy , but that one really is something else
Father might not be aware Hans and Henry are underaged teenagers. I played thru KCD1 and I thought Henry was in his 20s the whole time....
@@Bigtunaproductions09 To be fair, "teenager" is a modern concept. In the first game, Henry's mom reminds him that he is already a man AND back then, in Christendom, you were allowed to marry once you hit puberty, so, 12 for girls and 14 for boys.
@@Bigtunaproductions09 They're 27 in the game.
@@Bigtunaproductions09 They're not underaged teenagers The actor who plays Henry is 45 lmao
What he meant is that Hans is the underage one in this situation. Vavra once said in an interview that he is about 27 in the game, but his codex implies that he is about 13 to 15.
Here's the thing: the people in the game treat each other very much the way that medieval Catholics treated each other - with suspicion and an ever-present threat of violence if you dared to step out of line. You can try to sell your candy-coated rose-tinted fantasy of Catholicism, but the historical reality was very, very different.
BWAHAHAHAHA and the dark ages of portrayal of Europe is the historical reality?
As I said regarding first KCD game: its merely costume, not historical game. True historical was Darklands, main author of this title, being onself profesional historian and protestant, recreated catholic spirutual life of age. There are saints cult (almost 150 saints coming to player aid in varius manner and situations), divine favour, mass and confession (these have real meaning), virtue (character "righteness"). And this is beside how other percive player (reputation system). In KCD religious life is only some christian greetings and thats all.
Its costume game with some real artifacts, places, political events and maybe swordfights. No true deep insight in Late Medieval times
As much as I adore Darklands (I actually have an original big box copy sitting right in front of me on my desk, and to this day consider it in my top 10 games ever made), you can't say it was truly historical. It is heavily historically accurate, but there are also monstrous creatures like hellounds and demons, alchemy is practiced with very similar results and by similar means as in Kingdom Come Deliverance, you fight the dark lord Baphomet, there are endless organized satanic cults hidden all over the place, etc. The game is a masterpiece and as far as historical settings go went to great lengths to represent 15th century Holy Roman Empire far beyond most historical settings games, but it cannot be considered truly historical in the sense a game like Gary Grigsby's War in the East can. It is a historical setting plunged into a manifestation of what was in reality an amalgam of nightmares and confounded cultural artifacts with supernatural legends.
@BriteRory every "fantasy" element (alchemy, monsters) in Darklands was carefully placed, based on true grimuary books or early folklore sources. Historians views of witches phenomen or occult were explained by author somewhere in manual or guide book, he just picked up one of such views (as e.g. occultic secret society and antychrist coming to earth , well from time to time some kings or emperors were considered as antichrist- Friderick Barbarossa for instance). Game itself was also meant as history lessons teching help and such fantasy elements should be used in discussion about common mistakes regarding this matter.
Player experienced how very late medieval commoner could see world, natural and unnatural.
So fun mixed with immersion on few floppy discs. And this is historical approach not as KCD where npcs have modern mentality with maybe 1960-1970 Central Europe citizen view of things.
@@BriteRoryIts much easier to develop historical strategy game, it scopes only to warfare.
KCD tries everyday life recreation, this is mattet not every profesional historians try to master. And flops on the face- being Master of Laws myself with master thesis in history law I've wathed KCD DLC quest with "inquisition" court. Everything was wrong and completly ahistorical in this matter. And this was easiest part since courts, especially church courts were very formal back then so written sources are plenty.
No wonder that devs made costume game as historical as "Three musketers" or Ridley Scotts Crusade movie.
@ I don't know that it is much easier to develop a game like War in the East which has detail down to the granular level for nearly every aspect of the war and is known for being one of the most complex video games ever made, but in general I am in agreement with you. My only point is that Darklands is a game of historical fantasy, because the developer made the decision to represent the period as if the beliefs shared by so many people regarding the spiritual and supernatural were actual, material and made manifest. I fully understand why that decision was made and I embrace the game as a masterpiece for it. I am fond of the first Kingdom Come Deliverance game but also do not consider it a historically accurate game, despite featuring many such aspects. It is impossible for us to accurately portray the lives of people who have been dead for centuries, but Kingdom Come Deliverance doesn't try very hard to shed much of the modern perspective, where Darklands did very much so.
@BriteRory War on the East is still limted to one layer (aspect) of reality- modeling armed conflict in particular place and time with definied tools (armies, units). KCD presentation layer (3d game) itself is very demanding and there is also combat, beliveable, spontaneus social interactions, animals...
Its sooo demanding, that devs annunced no childs in game (too difficult to implement in open world game- but not for Ultima IX from 1999). Then we have true historical (non modern, oh noo) realism: there were less children (none of them) than gay and black people in Medieval Bohemia.
Vávra said on a podcast (the one where he name dropped critical drinker and asmongold) why they made the society in this game so brutal and unchristian. It is meant to be edgy because Bohemia is in kind of a dark age during this time period, and he compared it to dark agest that led to the atrocities and moral bankruptcy committed during the hussite wars (that happened about 15 years after KCD2), and the 30 years war, and he even cited a book where he got that from. It is exaggarated, but that is likely to make it not boring, as life would have been if it weren't.
I keep saying this they're depicting a time of horror and chaos it's not a subtle message about Christianity. Imagine going to Yemen and when people don't trust you you generalise that to all Muslims. Both states are in civil wars like please
@@beggerinohio2200 I would like to point out that he himself said that the ordinary life during that time period would have been really boring, had it not been for the atroscities done by the mercenaries (and mostly the f****ing mercenaires) and bandits, who did some real f***ed up stuff that you would not have dreamt of in your nightmares.
@@beggerinohio2200 yes, it's also like depicting the civil war of the US and saying: this is what the US was like
@@beggerinohio2200stop copypaste spamming.
Oh yes, furthering the dark ages lies. Really sound historic approach.
i pray thar God will allow me to start making mybown games. i always dreamed of making them anf now that i am a Christian i want to make themblike that
Mack's review disappointed me. A lot of people seem to hold the view "it's not woke if the game is good." I'm just not okay what they've done with Henry and Hans. The first game was one of my favorite games of all time, but I'll be skipping this one. Thanks for the video Father.
You're skipping this one over social issues? Even though the game is good? Genuine question, why? (I agree about the Henry and hans stuff being out of place though homosexuality wasn't super suppressed at the time so having some bi or gay characters who are subtle about it makes sense)
@@beggerinohio2200 Destroying male friendship and making love for your friends always potentially gay is one of the propaganda points that destroyed society and led to male loneliness epidemic. Me for one, I cannot stand for this.
@@beggerinohio2200 homosexuality wasn't super suppressed at the time? Are you mad?
@@Wilantonjakov yes, he is.... one of many boring Czech bots and fanaticaI Vavra's simps spamming total bs all over this comment section in defense of this mediocre woke sIop KCD2
Audentes fortuna iuvat! There one of my favorite perks as a Catholic allows you to pray the our father and Gail Mary at a shrine for protection from death. Great game so far Father. Keep in mind though, it does have adult themes.
Fellow priest here. Appreciate the calm & charitable takes!
I don't agree with either you or Max, though. The medieval Bohemia portrayed in KCD2 isn't a utopia. But neither is it a dystopia. There's brutality, yes. But there's also humanity - didn't you notice? There's sin aplenty, but there's also faith aplenty. There's no attempt to smooth out rough edges. But amid the crudeness and violence, we also find kindness, friendship and love. It's a frightening world; but it's also, in many ways, an attractive & even beautiful world. Overall, I find it captures quite accurately the political, spiritual and social mores of late medieval Europe. The charge of stealthy, indirect anti-Christian messaging is, to my mind, completely unsubstantiated.
You a Jesuit?
Thanks, brother! I do mention that Mac's words may be exaggerated, though I've also heard that things get quite a bit darker in the second half of the game. We'll have to see. Regardless, my purpose here is more to raise awareness of the often subtle way that messaging can work through negative associations.
Anti-Christian message is blatantly obvious, it's not even particularly 'stealthy' or subtle like in the first game. It's open and direct, Vavra himself basically said so....
@@bdleo300 I'd be interested in knowing where and how you think Vavra basically said so. To my knowledge, all he ever said was that it "isn't a Christian game". That's totally fine. Nobody expected it to be.
@@johndeighan2495 Vavra is a Christ killing Jew, why defend the lowest scum of the earth?
Let's talk about the cp in the game... it needs to be banned from the country.
there is no cp in the game!
Ok.... So how about the fact that the character you can have optional sex with is just 15 years old?
Hans is underage. It even says so in his bio.
Hans in the game is not the historical Hans. In actual history, Henry was Hans' uncle.
stop with that lie
bruh smh people just making shit up now, believe me i don’t wanna see no crazy scenes either but im gonna be honest and not try and pull the same shit that the woke left does and push narrative, the Hans in the game is not 15…hes based off the real Hans who might have been in real life but this is an adult character in the game
@@hihihi1q23 more this bot cringe bs. Henry is fictional, Hans was a real historical figure and in game Codex say he was born in 1388. So it's canon, game and historical. PDF apologist.
1403 - 1388 = 15
15.... same as combined I. Q. of all Vavra's bots and simps combined lol
Just a NOTE, did you realize that there is DLC comming with focus on churches? I for one hope, it will be a good reason why to play a second playthrough. 😉
Excellent reflection father, are you familiar with the Mount and Blade games? If not, I'd recommend trying them out. The gameplay is similar to the Deliverance games.
Bruh you are just being too sensitive
not as sensitive as Vavra's simps tho... KCD2 is simply bad beyond belief.
One does not find his faith challenged by a game- anonymous orthodox christian
please analyze baldurs gate 3 squirrel and bear scenes through a theological lense
You can play as a demonic offspring but can’t play as angelic offspring, demonic offsprings are shown as unjustly persecuted. Joke about shapeshifting is not a problem. The bear man ideology is.
There will be a DLC only on churches
"Jesus Christ be praised" was a common greeting in all Slavic countries since Christianization and until the early 20th century. It's not about their personal faith, it's just the same greeting, like "As-Salamu Aleukum!" become - it has lost any Religious connotations. In Western Ukraine it's common by this day, BTW.
Lol people in the comments crying many churches are unenterable, claiming it's some secret agenda when there will be a DLC focused entirely on a monastery.
So you need to pay extra for a core part of medieval life? Most of people won’t even buy it. Also monastery =/= churches.
@@PLKinka MOST PEOPLE WON"T BUYT OH YEAH SURE. 200K TODAY ON STEAM XD YOU ANTI-WOKE GUYS ARE SOOOOOOO STUPID
@@ehrtdaz7186 calm down and go svvaIIovv vavra's saaaaaausage again puny little bot lol
To be fair Padre, based on what we know about the torture devices of the time, I think it's safe to say it's historically accurate that they treated each other like garbage.
I wouldn't judge everyone of a whole time period based upon the advancement of their judicial system compared to ours. Just because in Christ's time many were executed brutally by crucifixion, doesn't mean Christ was emptyhanded for disciples.
Bro fell for 18th century propaganda
[citation needed]
After watching 12 minutes of this video, I still cant understand the point you were trying to make.
Bc you're not a schizophrenic who sees persecution everywhere
@@beggerinohio2200 but you are lol... also a puny boring bot and a PDF apologist owned by Vavra
i apprieciate your insight father but i gotta say i'm enjoying this game like i enjoyed the first instalment, rdr2, sekiro, bloodborne, tw3 etc. it has all the qualities that i respect and love about gaming and rpgs specifically, deep and fleshed out mechanics, immersive world design, rewarding progression systems, slightly crazy but still down to earth npcs, the list goes on and on.
Jesus Christ be praised.
You are avoiding the fact, the time this game is set in was really infested by war, which obviuosly made people much more decivilised. You can wiew in the sens, that Christianity gave them some little safe space.
I think if the game was set few years earlier, it would be much less violent. Or if it was set a little bit later in time, the amount of violence would go through the roof, because of continuing struggles, mainly for common folk.
I am personally not believer, but as a Czech person I am really glad, that you game this game a chance.
Have a great day!
God it’s so disgusting to see just blatant anti semitism in the game like you’re really upset about jewish people in a game that takes place in Central Europe
@@Josh-hv2ze it is definitely disgusting to see Christians portrayed as evil and j*wish people portrayed as benevolent in a game set in medieval Christendom
Just to defend KCD2 here, which I've only picked up the series like 2 days ago, homosexuality and gender fluidity wasn't actually particularly frowned upon in Europe until the late 1700's ish. It's one of these bizarre things where people have actually decided that it's bad recently, and started to paint the past like it was some form of crime to commit such actions, which yes, in some cases, it was. But typically, in most parts of Europe for the longest time, as long as you weren't being disruptive and were respectful of others, it wasn't all that bad.
To give you a famous case, Louis XIV's brother was pretty much transgender, though of course, he preferred to be called a man. However he did not act like one, he was flirtatious with men, and wore makeup and jewelry, dressed with luxurious dresses and wore shoes akin to that of modern heels and the such. There were other nobles, a duke of Northern Germany, Saxony area if I remember correctly, who were also widely known to be unconventional in the areas of gender and sexual preference.
I'm not christian, but I do have christian family and what not, I respect the christian point of view but I think it's important to add context.
God bless, or whatever you believe in (:
Stopped reading at "gender fluidity" in medieval Europe. Ha! Cringe LGBTQETC fantasies... s 0 d 0 m y was actually punishabIe by death.
Sodomy was punished by death before the 1700's, sure sounds very tolerant, you absolute tool.
calling gay people a controversy is not a good look for christian content. Everybody already thinks youre homophobic
He doesn't and shouldn't care about being called homophobic. Depending on the definition of the caller, all good Christians must be homophobic.
The culture has shifted. Take your backwards opinion, stick it you know where, and then walk yourself back to 2020 where people still put up with your nonsense.
Christians are fearful of being sinful thats true. What IS your Point ? Thats Like saying Christians are fearful of murderers,thieves and Liars yes WE are.
Christianity was never about looking good to the world but about what is true.
@@vulpesinculta9578 Then your religion won't survive. That's the truth of it.
If you have your faith challenged by a video game, you have more issues then you realize.
The tellings of true faith is one that can laugh at and question itself.
@@mikeity2009 it certainly is not a question of faith being challenged. More supporting a developer who is pushing these sentiments on the masses. It incentivises more of this antiChristian drivel.