Has Pogačar Found His Winning Formula? + Fans Need To Stop This NOW - Wild Ones Pro Show TdF Stage14
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Cmon Jimmy, Jonas was on the limit today. Tomorrow may be different, but today he didn't have more.
Jonas was able to catch Pog in stage 11 because he lucked out and had Roglic catch him on the descent off the next to last climb and Roglic basically dragged him down the descent and through the flat section leading to the final ascent. On every climb this tour where Pog has attacked on the final climb he's been able to gap Vingo and widen that gap to the peak. Look for more of the same tomorrow with another mountain top finish. Admittedly, Vingo is very likely still not 100% from his April injuries, but he also does not have the dominant Jumbo teams he had in '22 and '23 when they were able to tag team Pog and attack him relentlessly with multiple riders. Now the tables are turned and Pog has the superior support team.
This is expected! Jonas hasn’t trained for the Tour. 6 weeks ago he was in the hospital. If Pog wasn’t able to do this I would be concerned. Jonas will fade more and more.
@@Raptors0524 Pog raced in '23 with a wrist fracture and missed two weeks of training himself. It happens. It isn't like Pog is dropping Vingo over long extended efforts. He is literally dropping the guy within the first 50 meters every time he has attacked him. We are seeing a likely less than 100% Vingo and a Vingo that does not have a dominant team to soften up Pog for him. 🙂
Jonas said in Danish interviews that he actually had a great day and did solid Watts comparing to his expected bests. He acknowledged that Pogi was amazing and said that if Pogi could keep his level it will all be very hard.
@@Robert-vl3ur this is true. Good assessment! Pog is on another level. We shall see what tomorrow brings.
Jonas looked quite coocked at the end..
Just wanna say that I've been waiting for the episode every night and that you guys are KILLING IT on this series. This tour is great and so are you
True
They know very little about cycling. Worst TDF commentator's out there
@@kubackjeee They're merely offering their opinions from watching the stage. It's no different to the TdF commentators and the "analysis" that comes on the official coverage. Or the people on other cycling channels doing likewise. Or the average cycling fan doing so online or with friends in the pub.
You not forced to watch it.
Yates is the SUPER dom this tour.
Miss Kuss :(
Keep Chris around
The more the better
I have to say... with the close GC battle, and all the media trolling, i was starting to lose faith in UAE and Pogacar... but never ever lose faith in Tadej Pogacar. This was the 9th time Pogi & Jonas have finished 1-2 on a stage of the tour de France.. the most of any 2-up rivalry (even more than Armstrong-Ullrich)... the greatest rivalry of all-time... and 4-5 more days of this ding-dong battle to go.
Well said! Which ever way you root we are spoiled as fans!
@@MichaelBoogerd Never lose faith in THE KING!
@@tonyg3091 no Kuss no party!
@@MichaelBoogerd and Krujswijk and Van Baarle and in form Wout
Adam Yates deserves a credit
Same person threw chips in JV face that threw them in Pog's face. What a tool, they are not fans!
maybe he wanted to point out to remember to eat some carbs :D
tasteless joke
@@MNBKWORK surely that depends what flavor were the chips
That sort of thing can be dangerous for the riders, these people should be fined or measures should be taken to limit how close the audience can get from the riders. Hatefull act
Here's a thought. Either fence it off to further down the climb or have an electric car (because petrol fumes wouldn't be good) drive just in front of the lead rider ensuring a clear passage? They HAVE to do something
Disagree with you on this one Jimmy, all previous tours Jonas as followed all hard attacks of Pog, I think he’s missing that last few percent of fitness due to the crash which is completely understandable. I do agree it’s not over yet though
Not saying Jonas can't or won't come back and win this, but Jimmi is delusional to think Jonas wasn't going his hardest at the end there.
True. He got to the finish cooked
I think this year the situations of Pogacar and Vingegaard are the reverse of last year. Last year Tadej was coming off an injury and his team was weaker than Visma. Granted his injury was not nearly as severe as Jonas’ but it did affect his training. This year crashes and illnesses have weakened the Visma team and it’s Jonas that is coming off an injury. That has put Jonas out by himself countering Tadej just like Tadej was isolated last year.
Carbon monoxide binds hemoglobin reducing the oxygen carrying capacity of blood. Much like altitude training, that reduction will stimulate red blood cell production and perhaps improve the oxygen carrying capacity of those RBC’s. Dr. Robert Schmidt, an expert in the field, has stated it may be more effective than EPO.
This is what I'm saying Wellsaid🎉 but Jonas fans still stuck in 22-23 tdf they're so delusional.
@@michaelbantilo-kq9bgthey’re just being Vinegar thinking Jonas will improve and Tadej will be on pizza and beers.
@@black7987echo UAE and tadej is Locked in now they still doubting tadej because of the past tours
tbh I was expecting Jonas to be +10 from Tadej at this stage in TDF. From nearly dying 3 months ago to be very competative is a miracle. With that said, Tadej is very strong this year and even prime Jonas would have to struggle with him to win it.
'Tough Jimmy' intro! 🤣
Pog was actually chipping away, chipping away, chipping away in '23. chped away until lack of base from missed training caught up with him.
Only 10 seconds before the TT that year. People won’t admit it but you are correct.
as a physician, i would be critical of the idea of carbon monoxide increasing performance when it permanently binds to hemoglobin. they would have to raise their hb to make up for that and I remember high hemoglobin levels being banned by the uci. now if it was carbon dioxide, i could see how that could have potential.
This is seriously becoming better and better by the day. At this speed you guys will have 1 mil subs in no time. So hooked on listening to you every evening now. ❤❤❤. PS: Pogi for the win. It’s his year. What a monster climb today!
I concur. I jump to watch when I get the YT notification. Cheers
Jonas will be better in the really tough stuff later in the last week pogi knows this and wants a buffer.
Guys tomorrow has 5000m climbing in 30 degrees with a 45min final climb then the alps… suspend judgement still!
Today's Fluff Up of the Day was ,,,, there was no Fluff Up of the Day!
Did your guest say the last time he can think of where it was close at the end was 20 years ago? Um, in 2020 Pogacar won it on the last stage, a TT, beating out Roglic to win by 59 seconds. Not as close as LeMond's win in '89, which was only 8 seconds, but 59 seconds is still really close. It's not Pogacar's fault Roglic's helmet nearly came off his head lol.
Depends on your definition of ‘close’. If Chris thinks ~10 seconds is close (and what he was referring to), the 2020 Tour wasn’t close at nearly a minute.
6:54 Pogacar today was all race in Jonas wheel, it’s good, very good strategy.
Please do some research before you start talking about subjects like close tours. Dude says the other close tour he can remember most recently was Greg LeMond taking the yellow jersey in the time trial on the final stage. Really? You don't remember Pogačar doing the same exact thing in 2020? That would be good to remember since he is one of the guys in the race this year in the super close battle...lol.
Wasn’t as close and didn’t end in a time trial. That was stage 20. Not stage 21.
@@ChrisHallRides Pogačar won that tour by less than a minute. And he took the leader's jersey the last real racing day in a time trial on stage 20. Stage 21 was the víctory lap through Paris so it didn't really matter. I'd say it was pretty darn close when the guy who won didn't get the jersey until the last real day of racing. No need to go back over 35 years.
@@ChrisHallRides and yes that race for GC did end in a time trial. Everyone knew the last stage was a formality, not a race for GC.
Relative to the 8 seconds Lemond won by, 59 seconds is lifetime. The running clock told us it was over with 3.5km to go.
Guys these have been fantastic top work
Am I the only one that thinks that Geraint Thomas riding todays stage after saying he had tested positive for COVID in an interview before the stage was stupid and very selfish and puts all the other riders at risk?
Yes. Getting sick is a risk, but every time you get on the bike you accept a level of risk. No professional is going to quit because they are sick. MJ and the Flu game. It’s not in their psyche to quit unless they truly have nothing left to give.
I like the fact that this race is a team effort as it makes the racing far more interesting but also wonder on stages like this where a rider like POG would finish without a super domestique like Adam Yates. Is Jonas getting this level of support from Jorgenson? If Jonas can conserve energy and Visma does use tactics to cause UAE to respond with too much effort it may come down to a tour GC being determined by the final time trial IMO.
"Vingegaard all day" ??? Seems not today.... Tactics ? Tadej loves to race, tactics be damned.
If Tadej wasn’t riding to any sort of tactics, he’d have gone on the Tormalet 😅
Nice format to review the TDF. I truly enjoyed this series❤
Last week you said the Pag was over!
He’s got zero knowledge
Hello from West Virginia, USA. Just wanted to say this is, by far, the best TDF commentary out there; you have a great team!
LOVE watching Healey race, just always giving it the stick.
The fan crowding is potentially easily solved with some intimidating police on motor bikes and loud speakers riding ahead of the leads in the race announcing the limits (ie stay off the road). If a series of top riders express their frustration in an honest way in the media after such races fans will respond and self police too.
Jonas is REALLY missing Sep Kuss! His team is just not quite as strong as he needs this year. But what a performance from him and Pog! They really are the two best riders in the race by a long shout.
What would happen if Jonas attacked Yates to stay on his wheel instead? The whole situation with sending out Yates was pretty obvious.
If he attacks, Pogacar just jumps on his wheel and attacks over him a few moments later. Probably wouldn’t have changed the scenario that much.
@@KnofrisIt would have been a replay of when (Jumbo) Visma did over Tadej with Kuss and Roglic. Jonas would have gone hard to catch Yates, Tadej would have followed and then attached over the top, leaving Joas to respond to a second (and harder) attack.
4:04 Sorry Jimmy, but I have to disagree, if Jonas didn’t had enough confidence in winning he would never entered the fray, he is not in this momento worried about Evennepoel, he was in trouble and asking for help. Remco is running for a podium spot and ready to earn more if the conditions are right. I think be didn’t even tried to follow JV, he was riding his pace and it’s the smart thing to do.
jimmy’s “just vibinnnnn” 🤙🏽
long live the jimster
let’s get it on!
Interesting about this carbon story.. last year when Jonas was asked about doping.. his words were.. "I am not doing anything illegal. ".. implying he IS doing SOMETHING...
😳
They are all looking for advantages
that’s how it works
is that ethically questionable? i don’t think so
They are all doing something. There’s not human body that recover in 18h and do all what they do during 3 weeks
Somebody is “doping” for sure
What I find interesting is no interest by journalists or authorities any more
“Our sport is clean” lol
Anyone who has watched this year saw the writing on the wall. In previous years, when Pog has attacked JV has at least held his wheel. So far this year, as soon as Pog has gone, he's gone, 3 times now. Tour is over, JV just isn't strong enough or race fit enough to hold Pog's wheel or attack himself.
Lots of climbs left. Now can Pog keep pace
@@J-cz7yv yes, hes playing with the gc contenders
Another key difference is that in '22 and '23 Vingo had by far the most dominant team in the Tour. His teammates regularly tag teamed Pog and attacked him relentlessly. Now the shoe is on the other foot and Pog has the best team. Vingo is not winning this Tour. He's very likely still recovering from his April injuries, but even more important he no longer has a dominant Jumbo team that can attack Pog multiple times during mountain stages. In the past he was always protected in the mountains and could sit back watching other teammates like Roglic and Kuss attack Pog and then attack Pog himself after the others had worn him down. That game no longer exists.
@@J-cz7yv Pog has literally dropped Vingo easily on every climb that he has attacked him on in this Tour. The only climb where Jonas made up ground on him was stage 11 where Jonas lucked out and had Roglic catch up to him on the descent off the next to last climb and Roglic basically dragged Vingo down that descent and then through the flat section leading to the final climb. Every time Pog has attacked Vingo on a final climb he has gapped him pretty easily and that isn't changing tomorrow or next week. 🙂
@@Robert-vl3ur absolutely I agree! Pog can drop Jonas almost at will. It’s just keeping pace afterwards! And today he was amazing. I’m just saying that now he needs to keep pace and not get by a constant high tempo. Tomorrow is set to be hotter too
They should let the riders carry bear spray.
I rarely comment on videos but I logged in to say: I’m all in on these intros. Fire it the f*** up, Jimmy! Lets gooo
It is estimated that Pog did:
6.85 ᵉW/Kg for 27:50 min. For sea level normalised, it is 7.16 ᵉW/Kg.
These type of stats are just nerdy....and boring. Basically a w/kg contest, may as well do it on Zwift......
There is a reason MTB riders laugh at roadies......
@@WerdnaLiten don’t mean to nerdy but you can apply stats to mountain biking too. Obviously other factors but your comment that stats are nerdy is funny af.
Fuck
@@WerdnaLiten Do you also hate terms like horsepower and torque in car racing? They are terms that explain why a car was faster, or accelerated faster. Watts per Kilo is the same for cycling, and explains why no one could keep up with Pogi today.
Yes, LT giving those numbers with zero explanation of how they were calculated is… something.
For Sunday’s Stage, Bini would pull a Ewan-esque strategy, if anybody remember, there was a mountain stage in this years Giro where Caleb somehow snuck up on the early break therefore he survived the stage cause he was in the front.
I wanna believe it's a clean tour but we've not seen someone do the double for years and pog is just wiping the floor with everyone. If it's a fresh pog fine but I do feel it's suss with a giro in the same year.
You guys are doing phenomenal work with this series, the style and approach is making cycling super accessible and engaging to new as well as old cycling fans. May the channel grow!
Super fun to listen to all of you three!
Cade Media and Cris Horner the best channels
Nah, Lanterne rouge all day.
Nah @@oscardot. Cade has character. The other two though great for super indepth analysis are wet blankets. Wild Ones is like watching Pog, the others like watching Jonas. We want panache..and the wild ones dishes that shiet out in buckets
@@out_spocken Nah. Once you listen to enough of of lanterne rouge you recognise their humour. Plus yeah, their knowledge and insight is next level.
Jimmi talks nonsense. Cade would be better if he was still behind the scenes.
@@oscardot Listened enough to appreciate what they offer....and what they don't.Each to their own of course...that's the beauty of having lots of channels...I tend to watch cade, the move, lantern and horner for the whole tour...simply because it crystalises my own views and thougthts and they all have differences...which is good for us the audience and cycling in general imo 🙂
Just a bit weird you felt you needed to post what you did on this channel. Dunno. Maybe it's me..just seems a bit disrespectful just to be disrespectful...but then...you still watch so...
@@out_spocken you were disrespectful to Benji and Patrick when you called them wet blankets.
I watched the channel when it was just Francis. Stopped watching when it changed to Jimmi being involved. I watched this to see if the race coverage was good. Just more waffle from Jimmi.
Jonas looking back, most likely looking for Jorgensen. Like the way Kuss role is. Jonas knew that he couldn’t close down Pogacar, so if he had Jorgenson paced he could save a little instead of him chasing Mano a Mano. I think Jonas played it smart today.. But I’m still waiting if “lack of preparation = lack of preparation.” Jonas is showing what Tadej looked like last year. Giving a proper fight, but logically it’s still hard to think that someone who has only 6 weeks of preparation can win the TDF unless Tadej finally runs out of gas from Giro fatique.
Last year, Tadej with less severe injury, had 5 weeks training time,. We were also wondering about his form. He looked good, even dropped Jonas, before he blew up. And Jonas had been training with 2 altitude camp + race in Dauphine last year.
I disagree. JV came to the Tour thinking he could win. He wouldn’t be here otherwise.
Visma wouldnt have let him start if he wouldnt have been at 100%. I agree with you.
I disagree. He's their best hope at GC. If he starts and loses then they can blame it (quite fairly) on the insane injuries sustained by Jonas. If they win then Vin is King without any doubt, Pog is just second rate and.... they win the Tour again. It's a really lossless strategy
Ehm, what options did they have? It's a team built up for GC, just like UAE, Ineos and Quickstep.
So if Jasper Philipsen crashed out a few months before TdF, there would suddenly be a world class sprinter replacing him? Makes no sense.
@@Ca11meroexactly. They had to go with JV y Wout . Who else can win at least a stage?
How is posible that someone can believe for a second that JV can be 100%?
Did you miss the fan yanking the other fan off the road? I wish more fans would do that. It happening while the Camera was on Mathieu van der Poel in the break away talking to his team car. Someone was running on the road with a flag around his neck. Another spectator reached out and hooked him on the arm and yanked him off the road. Admittedly I was cheering!
I'm very glad I found this place. Thank you for the entertaining discussions.
When "WOPSTdF" happens again next year, I hope you guys have a fantasy league again and a part of your show use the players league update as a segue or tie ins on how the tour is doing. I find myself listening a bit more intently when I hear how your fantasy teams are doing.
Second best 20 minutes of my life 😂😉 last night's stage asidem..maybe hehe..I did jump straight on UA-cam to see your episode though...waking up to it has been a great way to start my days in Australia. Lovin you're work!
#dreamteam
Carbon monoxide treatments are not new. I give my GF a similar treatment in bed, it's called a dutch oven.
lol my guy too much 😂
I snorted ... that was too funny
How does this comment only have 6 likes
In love with these intros and this whole pro show in general!!
Stage 14 suited Pogi and he needed that win and gap as stage 15 and other mountain stages are tougher stages that suits Jonas and can make time on stage 15. Jonas said it not think. Jonas said after stage 14 he can still win the tour
They need to put up more restraining ropes to protect the riders from a-hole fans.
Jonas was looking around for help. The last time he did that, he was able to get guys to work with him which allowed him to save energy and catch Pogačar. This time, guys were too smart to help him. Remco played it perfectly by getting to Jonas' back wheel and sitting on. With nobody to help, Jonas had to work the rest of the stage. The funny thing is that if Roglic had been there, he would have been stupid enough to work with Jonas eventhough Jonas was ahead of him by a lot in the gc.
We will never know
to be fair I don't think Remco was able to even take a turn anyway haha, but even so I'm 100% sure he would not take one if he could. He did a great job of just limiting his losses and staying in his plan at the end.
I mean how much “work” can someone do for you on 10%+ grades? Aero is a very very minor factor when it gets that steep.
Exactly! That drives me up the wall as well, the spectators being so disrespectful and blocking the best line the riders wish to take. Arghh ....
Thank you all for the great no BS summaries of the races. Between you all, LR, and the Butterfly Effect, no need to watch anyone else
Lemond beat Fignon in 1989 on the last stage, which was a TT. Lemond came from behind to beat Fignon by a total of 8 seconds. It was a strange win that year, as Lemond used an aero helment and aero bars (later banned), while Fignon went helmetless and used no aero equipment. The final TT this year provides a good chance for a similarly close race for podium places.
I don't know who is going to win, but I do know that it take as much energy(burning match) for Pogi to attack and win as Jonas digging deep trying to limit the loss!
Yes Sir! Let's get it on!!!
Jimmy can be sooo delusional sometimes xD
The TDF was close when Pogi won his first
Forgetting Contador attacking a Schleck in Yellow with a dropped chain, take 31 seconds and win by that margin... 2010 I believe it was?
Of course Contador was later dispaulified, but in the road extremely close
It's my birthday today. What a great birthday gift from the riders
Great as usual. Love the coverage of women's races. More of this, please.
Pog was probably told to ride defensively and try and win the sprint. He disobeyed could not contain himself that’s why team director was evasive!
@akirasuzuki8378 said "Pogacar is the race favorite. Do not underestimate him."
The guy who said this in response, seems to really know what he's talking about:
"He [Pogačar] is [the favorite] IMO. This year Pogacar is on the best team, he has a 66 second lead, and he's better than Vimgegaard in the time trial."
He could have done a little better on spelling Vingegaard's name though and he missed the funny thing over the c in Pogačar's name.
Ben Healy has been an absolute monster this year. I love seeing a combative rider just hammering away. Also think second and third could stay as is or swap, and both of those riders will call it a victory, given their injuries.
Weird that Jonas looked around before on a stage but then caught Pog
What exactly was weird about it? Looking if someone pulls for him, then just rides looking at his power output. Please elaborate what’s weird about that?
9.02… that fan also threw crisps at JV too… at least he has full face view for the gendarme to follow up!
I’m so confused about what the current UK weather conditions are. One of the hosts is in a T-shirt. Another host is in a full winter wooly…and the remaining host is wearing a heavy room coat.
Yellow Jersey TDF Pod as always guys ( + Bella )
Wasn't that a Red Hot Chilli Peppers track ?
🎵 Chip it away Chip it away
Chip it away now 🎵
Scary thing is Chris, that Lemond Champs Elysees
🎵 Seven seconds away 🎵
Victory over Fignon ? 89 !
Fluff up of the day: the food in Emily's teeth 😂 I couldn’t look away
I somehow haven't seen this channel before. Really great content. Subbed
The winning formula: Be much better at everything than anyone else at the same time, and put in the best climbing numbers since the 1990's while destroying Armstrongs record.
A simple formula, really.
Assuming the crisps were Salt & Vingegaard
Love the show but please stop putting spoilers in your title, many people like me dont watch the highlights until 8, once again today when I turned on my smart TV it popped up with your thumbnails😢
Intro 👌 we vibin Jimmi
What is jimmy talking about. You think Jonas decided not to loose 39secs on purpose or to go into the red? Jonas was cooked when he crossed the finishline. No rider will deliberately loose GC time thinking they will gain it back in another stage. I don’t like this notion that Jonas will get stronger and stronger and pog will fade. Last year pog came into the tour without proper preparation and no one thought he will get stronger as the tour goes. But Jonas with more sever injury will?
You still haven’t learned, have you? Dissing Pog yesterday was a stroke of genius. Your podcasts should be renamed 'The Jonas Fan Club Chronicles'-with special episodes on why anchovies make the perfect podcast snack.
Carbon Monoxide ideally < 9 p per million. 800 fatal in minutes 200 fatal in hours. If you can keep it at say 20 for short periods probably safe and effective. I bet they are using it.
Hello, great content. Jonas wouldn't have started if he wanted a podium. Jonas cycles for one reason and one reason only - to win, esp. in the TDF. He will go for it in week 3.
Love your shows, can you please stop putting spoilers in your thumb nails. Some of us in the southern hemisphere have to wake up and navigate to the replays.
Jonas kept looking back because he realized he was pushing the pedals and Pogi was still away. Looking for help that never came.
aggressive intros and aggressive attacks
On the carbon monoxide training. Surely steroids are banned because they give an edge and they're dangerous so you'd assume.caebon monoxide would be banned eventually as it's performance enhancing and presumably unsafe
I’m not saying Jonas will win, but nobody should say he’s lost. Let’s not forget he put 1:38 into Pog in last year’s time trial, and then broke him completely 2 stages later. This year is very different, but don’t put it out of the realm of possibility
It looked like JV looked behind to see if one of his teammates could help him.
Jonas at best can finish half a bike length ahead. Now he needs to make up big time gaps to be in for the victory in Nice. But he is still doing well for the crash he had
I know there are 6 more stages after tomorrow - but tomorrow could be the deciding stage for the GC depending on how it goes. Tadej looked fresher than Jonas today and beat him soundly. If he does the same tomorrow, that will be it. Jonas has nothing to be ashamed of, but I think it is already over.
JV and Jumbo Lease a bike are just not a strong team this year.
Love the intros 😂
Good thing Tadej did not bonk this time
Jonas got the crisps as well
Everything is intentional, maybe not expected but definitely intentional. He didn’t attack by accident.
2020 59" Pog over Rog...not so long ago
Tomorrow is the real test…
Today’s stage favoured Pogacar… only 150km and the last “climb” had low incline and even downhill in the final 3ks.. and was low altitude… this was absolutely a Pog stage!
Tomorrow is a Vingegaard stage… this has to be the day they drew a circle around on the calendar… 200km long… more climbs, 1000 MORE ft of climbing and the final climb is 5km longer and pretty much 8% + ALL the way up… no downhill in the climb… [AND high, high altitude]!!
AND it’s not about burning matches per se… it’s being smart and burning the F out of matches when it MAKES SENSE to burn some matches when the probability of return on those matches is good!! Pog used his team well and was smart today 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
I hope you are convinced now. Sorry
@@segdoc it’s not about being convinced or not convinced… it’s about looking at the available evidence and analyzing what is possible or probable…
I said “Tomorrow [now today] is the real test…”
And it was… still another hard week and anything can still happen… but after this clearly Pogacar has the legs and has shown it’s his Tour to lose… this invalidates absolutely nothing I’ve said though.. nothing!
Thanks for the clarification. Just goes to show nothing is set in stone in sports, even based on t the abundance of evidence. Both are great and both are limited for this tour. One is just better right now and barring any mishap he will win. Chapeu to JV and RE.
@@segdoc 🍻
Tomorrow is when Visma will miss Sepp Kuss
Even a bad manager can make a good decision one in a while.
I think by the law 2 years of TDF we can safely say UAE are director is not one of the better ones in the peloton.
Hope this year they can improve a don't loose the race again.
Tadej? Defensive? He loves to race, he tries for everything, even the sprints. He makes cycling more exciting for the fans. The reason we love to watch him. Win or lose.
Thumbs up
It is been profiles so far. Tadej is piling up the seconds on the flat and down hill. The difference so far in comparison to the last years has been that JV can't follow the attacks immediately, but he cuts into those gaps everytime as soon as TP settles in after going into the red. So far the profile of the race just fits TP better because there have quite honestly only been two real high alpine climbs. Today's final climb levelled off dramatically in the last 4kms. That is exactly where TP started to pull away again, because he obviously is a better classics rider than JV.
The tactics of attacking on the steepest part of the climb which so far remarkably has always been perfecty close to the summit of the climb or - today - just ahead of the levelling. Hats off to TP because it works perfectly. We'll see on how this works on actual mountain finishes like tomorrow.
I hope your analogy is right. I really hope so for your sakes