Doubles click is interesting I guess?….But Dualtron is going to have evolve out of that EY3. I’m not dropping $4.3k for some relic display. Kaboo listened 🦻
I have a queastion.. how much better is a torque/acceleration on Thunder 2 compared to original Thunder? I can not find an answer anywhere. There are last original Thunders in stock, cause they are discontinued. So I have to decide quickly... Thank you so much!
I've just ordered dualtron thunder 2 a couple days ago (pre ordered) it's not in stock yet. But I've been informed it's currently at sea and will arrive in the second half of this month. I'm so excited I cant wait!!! It looks amazing, I have no experience on one of these so I will take my time on it until I get better.
Solid review! I’ve had mine for all of a month now! Loving every bit of it as it’s an outstanding Upgrade from my Kaabo Wolf Warrior. Only drawback is the creaky stem sounds!😖 I have to get around to fixing that!😅🤙🏽
I've done it like 3 times now, before I realized the worst sound came from where the two rings are, stem still gotta be fixed though, just make sure and use silicone spray and teflon tape... PS I also live in the bay (Daly City) and I've seen all your videos here too, those at the bay Bridge are impressive, maybe we can race one day 😁
@@JoyRideJay11 Let's do it man 🤣, I've been trying to find people with big scooters to go on long rides with, cause I've seen a few videos of people gathering at twins peaks here in SF and looks like they all ride together, just yesterday I rode all the way to the embarcadero (Giants stadium) and got it up to 55+mph for the first time, but I realized I do need a damper, just ordered it last night too, and I've been waiting for the seat and fingerprint reading lock which should be shipped out in the next week or so...
Getting my thunder 2 soon plus I already got my thunder 1 which is good . Yep I love these two scooters, they’re both good looking scooters. Thanks for the review bro 😎
This. A LOT of wheel spin. I have a riding buddy that owns the Thunder 2. On the lowest setting he's always peeling out. Glad I decided on the Eagle Pro which allows adjustment on the fly between single or dual wheels or settings 1-3 and eco/turbo. Love it.
I just bought the thunder 1 for $3300 brand new at Steve scooters here in Miami fl by Wynwood and let me tell you the experience I’ve had so far is by far the best. The speed, mobility, battery life, the range is mind blowing. I mean it has 3 speeds and I can only use 2 because the 3rd speed is way to fast for me. I like going mid 35mph to 40 after that is just feels to fast. I would recommend it to anyone. After having it for just 3 days thinking of upgrading to the thunder 2 already. Mini motors take my money 💰 ❤
@Dom Dizzle it just stays stable at any speed sometimes at lower speeds i can pick up a phone call and only drive with 1 hand i wouldn’t recommend doing that tho 😅
Great comparison! Not a fan of flashy lights, but they can be turned off. How do you feel Thunder 2 compares to Bronco Xtreme 11 in overall value?? Bronco has steering damper and sinewave controller.
Good question. I haven't ridden a Bronco yet, but am a big fan of sinewave controllers, steering dampers and shocks with adjustable damping. My main concern with owning a Bronco is that I'd be nervous about the company being around a few years from now to supply parts. I guess I could have the same concern about the NAMI, now that I think about it. -Paul
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide Very true, but from all of the reviews i have seen bronco looks to be a quality build and i feel company will be around for a while. Patiently waiting to have mine delivered.
Hi Alon, It can be double-clicked right at launch or once fully underway. In the acceleration graph ua-cam.com/video/JN-L4tolGeQ/v-deo.html , the middle curve is where I double click at 50mph, and the top curve is where I double click right from the start. If I had more time before the review, I would have done some testing to see if you can double click at a stop and then sit there for a minute and still get the effect. And then, of course, how long it persists. I'm still really curious about it. -Paul
Hi picked up a Thunder 3 last night I ordered from a NYC shop, charged it all night & wanted to lift stem to find metal part that hold silver locking pins $ set screws missing metal on both sides, does Minimotors have a return policy, this looks extremely dangerous???
Nothing is as bright as the headlight on the Wolf scooters! :-) The headlights are down low and not super bright. It would need an extra light for fast night riding. turn signals are definitely only in the back. -Paul
The main thing is throttle response. Scooters with sinewave controllers tend to have much more gradual throttle response at low speed which helps a lot on 72V scooters. We end up fiddling around with P-settings a lot more, trying to find a happy medium for throttle control and acceleration. With the sinewave controllers, setting all output to max is fine because you can still easily control everything with the throttle. -Paul
Square wave is a little more abrupt right when you first poke the throttle. Here's a demo I did on the Wolf King (Square wave) and Wolf King GT (sinewave) ua-cam.com/video/7oousNwubV8/v-deo.html -Paul
Hi, greetings from peru 🤗. Guys what would you recommend? Dualtrom victor, kaboo wolf warrior x pro or vsett10+? Please i really want your opinion, best of luck in your future videos 🤗
It's truly hard to go wrong with any of these three. Just depends on how you wil use it. The Victor is amazing speed range and portability. We prefer the Warrior X base over the pro because it has a sinewave controller and better throttle control than the X Pro, Victor or Vsett. The Vsett is beautiful and arm-yanking fast at take off. They are all really great scooters, and honestly all scooters I would be happy to own. -Paul
A 100lb scooter? No thanks. Haha. I'm more the portable/reasonable speed person. If you live downstairs and absolutely need such top speeds (who really does?) it seems really nice. Online forums are filled with people going way too fast on these kinds of scooters, and bragging about their mad max "gear". A few months later they usually upload their hospital photos. Haha Great review. Well built and nice scooter.
The mad max gear is because they're going to be taking huge risks! I on the other hand plan on CRUISING through neighborhoods, bridges and states! Its not about the speed but the range for my use!
What do you think of the double click throttle? Game Changer? Nice to have? Or gimmick?
Doubles click is interesting I guess?….But Dualtron is going to have evolve out of that EY3. I’m not dropping $4.3k for some relic display. Kaboo listened 🦻
I have a queastion.. how much better is a torque/acceleration on Thunder 2 compared to original Thunder?
I can not find an answer anywhere. There are last original Thunders in stock, cause they are discontinued. So I have to decide quickly...
Thank you so much!
I've just ordered dualtron thunder 2 a couple days ago (pre ordered) it's not in stock yet. But I've been informed it's currently at sea and will arrive in the second half of this month. I'm so excited I cant wait!!! It looks amazing, I have no experience on one of these so I will take my time on it until I get better.
Chuck great review as always! Very interesting the traction test. Greetings to the ESG team
Thanks so much. Yeah, we measure everything :-) -Paul
Everybody keeps talking about steering dampers, I don't know why they don't just include it in the original...
Solid review! I’ve had mine for all of a month now! Loving every bit of it as it’s an outstanding Upgrade from my Kaabo Wolf Warrior.
Only drawback is the creaky stem sounds!😖
I have to get around to fixing that!😅🤙🏽
Thanks so much Jay!
Oh, yeah it's amazing that they all squeak. A little lithium spray grease makes quick work of it though. Enjoy :-)
-Paul
Thats right Jay! Whenever I move the stem forward or back it feels like a loose tower with a cranky sound! The Thunder 2 is awesome regardless!
I've done it like 3 times now, before I realized the worst sound came from where the two rings are, stem still gotta be fixed though, just make sure and use silicone spray and teflon tape...
PS I also live in the bay (Daly City) and I've seen all your videos here too, those at the bay Bridge are impressive, maybe we can race one day 😁
@@pulpinho21 Yoo what’s good bro!? I’m in Oakland, We should link and make some content!😎😅
@@JoyRideJay11 Let's do it man 🤣, I've been trying to find people with big scooters to go on long rides with, cause I've seen a few videos of people gathering at twins peaks here in SF and looks like they all ride together, just yesterday I rode all the way to the embarcadero (Giants stadium) and got it up to 55+mph for the first time, but I realized I do need a damper, just ordered it last night too, and I've been waiting for the seat and fingerprint reading lock which should be shipped out in the next week or so...
Getting my thunder 2 soon plus I already got my thunder 1 which is good . Yep I love these two scooters, they’re both good looking scooters. Thanks for the review bro 😎
Im about too buy a thunder 1 how many kilometres can you get avg 50-60km/speed
@@adrianspence8944 yeah you can average way more speed
If only vsett had those rubber tires. Flats would be a thing of the past
For Sure. I'm curious if they will start using this stuff in tubes as well as tubeless tires. -Paul
One big difference that wasn’t mentioned was that you can toggle between rear and all wheel drive on the Thunder 1, the Thunder 2 did away with that.
Probably because it puts a lot of stress on the controller from what I've heard.
This. A LOT of wheel spin. I have a riding buddy that owns the Thunder 2. On the lowest setting he's always peeling out.
Glad I decided on the Eagle Pro which allows adjustment on the fly between single or dual wheels or settings 1-3 and eco/turbo. Love it.
Thunder 2 vs. Nami? Which would you recommend? Any news if Nami is getting 21700 battery in 2022?
I just bought the thunder 1 for $3300 brand new at Steve scooters here in Miami fl by Wynwood and let me tell you the experience I’ve had so far is by far the best. The speed, mobility, battery life, the range is mind blowing. I mean it has 3 speeds and I can only use 2 because the 3rd speed is way to fast for me. I like going mid 35mph to 40 after that is just feels to fast. I would recommend it to anyone. After having it for just 3 days thinking of upgrading to the thunder 2 already. Mini motors take my money 💰 ❤
Glad you had a nice experience! -Vosk
Imma bout too get a thunder 1 how many kilometres can u get out of it going 50-60km/speed
I have a steering damper on mine its such a difference it accelerates so hard on max performance mode
Nice! I'll have to try a damper at some point. -Paul
@Dom Dizzle it just stays stable at any speed sometimes at lower speeds i can pick up a phone call and only drive with 1 hand i wouldn’t recommend doing that tho 😅
Dom, the 2nd gen also doesn't come with a damper -Paul
Yo man you got insta or discord?
@Wezlee ??
Great comparison! Not a fan of flashy lights, but they can be turned off. How do you feel Thunder 2 compares to Bronco Xtreme 11 in overall value?? Bronco has steering damper and sinewave controller.
Good question. I haven't ridden a Bronco yet, but am a big fan of sinewave controllers, steering dampers and shocks with adjustable damping. My main concern with owning a Bronco is that I'd be nervous about the company being around a few years from now to supply parts. I guess I could have the same concern about the NAMI, now that I think about it. -Paul
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide Very true, but from all of the reviews i have seen bronco looks to be a quality build and i feel company will be around for a while. Patiently waiting to have mine delivered.
Let us know! If you happen to be in the Berkeley CA area, I'd love to see it when you get it. :-) -Paul
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide Will do! I live in Surprise AZ so only a 10 hour drive.😉
Ha ha! That's a lot of re-charging! -Paul
This is my next scooter!!! This will def cure my upgraditis......I hope, lol.
Nice! Let us know if the cure works! :-) -Paul
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide Paul, I ordered it! My cure is coming, lol.
Not when solid state batteries come out. Lol.
Please make a video about the new Dualtron Storm Limited
The double click needs to be prior to taking off or during the ride?
Hi Alon,
It can be double-clicked right at launch or once fully underway. In the acceleration graph ua-cam.com/video/JN-L4tolGeQ/v-deo.html , the middle curve is where I double click at 50mph, and the top curve is where I double click right from the start. If I had more time before the review, I would have done some testing to see if you can double click at a stop and then sit there for a minute and still get the effect. And then, of course, how long it persists. I'm still really curious about it.
-Paul
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide great thank you! I’ll try it tomorrow
Hi picked up a Thunder 3 last night I ordered from
a NYC shop, charged it all night & wanted to lift
stem to find metal part that hold silver locking
pins $ set screws missing metal on both sides,
does Minimotors have a return policy, this looks
extremely dangerous???
Is it true that the turn signal is only on the back? in front is not there ?
Then what about the headlight? is it as bright as kaboo wolf gt?
Nothing is as bright as the headlight on the Wolf scooters! :-)
The headlights are down low and not super bright. It would need an extra light for fast night riding.
turn signals are definitely only in the back.
-Paul
What’s the difference between the square wave (thunder 2) and the sine wave in the others
The main thing is throttle response. Scooters with sinewave controllers tend to have much more gradual throttle response at low speed which helps a lot on 72V scooters. We end up fiddling around with P-settings a lot more, trying to find a happy medium for throttle control and acceleration. With the sinewave controllers, setting all output to max is fine because you can still easily control everything with the throttle. -Paul
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide alright cool! So square wave is not smooth?
Square wave is a little more abrupt right when you first poke the throttle.
Here's a demo I did on the Wolf King (Square wave) and Wolf King GT (sinewave)
ua-cam.com/video/7oousNwubV8/v-deo.html
-Paul
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide ah thank you Paul, that was just what I was looking for 🙏😃
No problem!
-Paul
Kick Gas!!
Deck-to-grips distance please ?
37.5 inches (0.953 meters) -Paul
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide Thank you 👍🏻
IPX water resistant rating next. Please Minimotors.
Hopefully they will do that very soon!
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide
Hope so too. It sucks that my dualtron is only a two-season scooter.
@@rxonmymind8362 which one is waterproof and water-resistant?
@@souiritv8355
No scooters are waterproof.
Water resistant maybe a few. A splash here or there but not in downpour.
@@rxonmymind8362 what about kaabo wolf king? They say it is better in water resistance
I Love my Varla eagle one aka zero 10x but I wanna go 55+ in my next scooter been looking at this one hmmm 🤔
Hi, greetings from peru 🤗. Guys what would you recommend? Dualtrom victor, kaboo wolf warrior x pro or vsett10+? Please i really want your opinion, best of luck in your future videos 🤗
It's truly hard to go wrong with any of these three. Just depends on how you wil use it. The Victor is amazing speed range and portability. We prefer the Warrior X base over the pro because it has a sinewave controller and better throttle control than the X Pro, Victor or Vsett. The Vsett is beautiful and arm-yanking fast at take off. They are all really great scooters, and honestly all scooters I would be happy to own. -Paul
Give it a revin Kevin.
Hello! Do these no flat tires prevent flats only for 24 hours? And after you need to replace them?
The true puncture proof tires protects the tires fully to keep the PSI in line
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide thank you !
Hello how is the suspension on the dualtron thunder is it really stiff or its nice in the middle ? And where can I get the flat proof tires from?
It’s on the stiffer side to be honest but they do sell different cartridges for it
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide is it too stiff or its comftable to ride ? And do you think it's better than the ultra 2?
With it folded up, can it fit in a trunk of a car?
Depends on which car
So what’s the top speed with the doble click??
55+
@@rxonmymind8362doesn't make being that it already goes 60 before double clicking
I dont understand why electric scooters is so much more cheaper than same power electric bikes?
What is eco mode and ong mode?
Omg*
Eco is the lowest setting that gives you least power and speed
-Vosk
So basically double-clicking doesn't really do too much
Not much!
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide thanks I feel scammed lol
Well its still a Wobbletron, stemwobbles, speedwobbles. Stop using Collar Clamps! This is the worst design ever from an engineering standpoint
Id rather get the dualtron compact.. tired of getting flat tires and stranded in the middle of nowhere
What do you think about the "flat proof" tires of the Thunder 2? -Paul
A 100lb scooter? No thanks. Haha. I'm more the portable/reasonable speed person. If you live downstairs and absolutely need such top speeds (who really does?) it seems really nice.
Online forums are filled with people going way too fast on these kinds of scooters, and bragging about their mad max "gear". A few months later they usually upload their hospital photos. Haha
Great review. Well built and nice scooter.
The mad max gear is because they're going to be taking huge risks! I on the other hand plan on CRUISING through neighborhoods, bridges and states! Its not about the speed but the range for my use!
Thanks Joey! -Paul
“No flat tire” damn that sticker is ugly
This one also has a little styrofoam packing material stuck in it, which I should have dug out before the photo was taken. -Paul