It's okay to criticize Frye, the reason they're desperately in need of portal O-linemen is because he doesn't bring in enough quality bodies in the recruiting cycles.
This is the podcast I needed. Sometimes the propaganda from our fan base is too much to ignore, they may be right, but you can’t make a judgement before the process is ongoing. We have done ptsd from the mizzou game
Remember before Seth got hurt the O-line was in the running for the Joe Moore award and may have won it especially if Simmons had been healthy. It's not Frye's fault the two best linemen got hurt.
Why do we even bother with recruiting if we can't develop players. I'm tired of listening to y'all saying our players are being developed. Only those getting playing time are improving, Simmons got better because he was playing every game. He wasn't developed here. CJ Stroud wasn't developed by Day, he won the elite 11 before he came on campus. McCord, Howard, even Brown could be interchangeable. This year, if Nolan or Sayin had started, we'd be where we are right now. Maybe even in a better position. If we're even considering going to the portal for a veteran QB, tells me Day and Kelly aren't developing anyone. Same can be said for our corners. Burke has taken a step back, and Igbinosun is a mauler, which is great rushing a QB, not so much guarding a WR. I thought Sabin was building a program in Bama, but I see they're only as good as their head coach was. Same with Day, he has the opportunity, but I question if he has the foresight. He's only a couple of coaches away from greatness. I hope he sees it.
I agreed. Playing times, paid private training sessions, and self-training programs are what make players improve. These days players have to come in ready to start.
The fans want the offensive line to be borderline elite Ohio state should always have a top 10-15 offensive line on a bad year anything other than that isn’t gonna fly
@@bucknuts247sports3 Zen Makowski stepped in and was literally a turnstile. The MTA wanted to hire him to check fares. A teams line is only as good as its depth and Justin Frey put out crap every year.
@ I think it’s more so Michigan can run the ball at will or that’s what it seems like and the fans in general compares Ohio States line and I think it’s more so of that cuz it’s like they get 200 yards on the ground whenever they want and we can’t I think it’s a lot of that going into it
It's all about evaluation just look at Harbaugh's class last year at Michigan 18 people went to the NFL and they weren't five stars or even four stars. They had two years in a row of Joe Moore Award winners and last year their defensive line destroyed Washington's Joe Moore award-winning offensive line in the championship game.
Mark the NFL especially OL has a lot of excelent players who are not 1st rd picks quite often they are grinders- tough guys who get the job done and get you Nattys.
Putting tackles at guards is done for one reason hypothethicly theycare better pass protectors. But you do lose toughness in an ally fight give me 5 guards against 5 tacjles and we'd stomp them Ohio st loses to nichigan not because they are better but because they are the tough boys and we are soft they kick our butt's.
On the defense of Justin Frye, this isn’t a this year only scenario and give Justin Frye some grace because of injuries. The offensive line has been getting pushed around by far lesser talent and teams for years. Anyone that has watched OSU for the any amount of time knows this. It is completely understandable that there is a drop off when starters get injured and you have to go with backups. But the drop off should be this drastic if players were being developed properly. Players that Frye has recruited and developed are not able to play at the level they should be at OSU. Period. You can say the same thing for QB development. Ryan Day was supposed to be this master QB developer. He has not proven that as of late. He recruited McCord, Brown, Lincoln Kienholtz, Air Nolan, and brought in Howard. None of them have been developed to play at this level. How many swings and misses is too many?
The rate at which these fans and online pundits critic n ridicule this team nobody will want to play for the Buckeyes…it’s super toxic! Instead of building your house you are online tearing the coaches n the players down.. why woo these players leave?
The system is broken because there are no speed limits no paramartires no portal cops. Who can fix this ? Diloes the NCAA have any power left any credability left ? And if they do why haven't they stepped in with rules this is truly the wild wild west trusr me the fabs notice and we are pissed off. Why should a team like Kanas st. Continue to play in this system they have .5 % chance of a Natty it is disgusting the highest bidder gets the player.
Losing Devin Brown will be regrettable… these fanatical critics may all have to suit up n play. Tearing their team, coaches n players daily.. ridiculous expectations. Other teams are enjoying n working to beat this team n they will! Ridiculous! All these players will all hit the portal
Ohio State is really starting to feel like a second tier program in terms of being able to get guys out of the transfer portal and get guys in recruiting, especially on the offensive line
They need to try and talk brown into coming back. Love the fire and grit that kid has. Sayin is very talented but he needs to develop physically. The kid is barely 6 foot in cleats on his tippy toes. He needs to put on considerable size to hold up for a big ten season
Isaiah World doesn’t have Ohio State as a choice. He is rated higher than any names you said. Lol smh terrible scouting. I don't even usually talk about who they get. The need OTs not no OGs.
Blah blah, on what bs you all said about Air. None of you know what was going on. Sayin hasn't shown anything when he got in games. All this practice pushing stuff of him pushing is weird to me. He does not step into his throws. Which is why they are always short.
@JimGrahamsr I agree but I don't think the coaching staff is going to go after him at all. They want a roster QB to start. Eventually you have to start using roster QBs or highschool QBs won't sign with you anymore. Plus he can go somewhere he knows for sure will pay and play him
This coaching staff is absolutely horrible. Not defense…Hopefully air won’t bite us in the butt like burrow and I hope sayin is the real deal for Ryan sake. It’s amazing how this guy destroyed this program and all it took was 1 bad hire. Unbelievable!! then they blame fans for blowing them when they put a shit product on the field.😂
The rate at which these fans and online pundits critic n ridicule this team nobody will want to play for the Buckeyes…it’s super toxic! Instead of building your house you are online tearing the coaches n the players down.. why woo these players leave?
Was it toxic when they were winning beating their rivals? Are fans supposed to accept this mediocrity after the standard was set so high? Alabama fans are the same way. Only differences is that they win big games. Without the fans, no one would give a shit about the games. They are getting paid now. They need to put a better product on the field. End of story.
@@freeone5534 they’ve (bama) literally missed the 12 team playoffs…I honestly believe the toxicity is due to Social Media and ppl ability to have a voice to reach out and touch other ppl they would have never touched
Watch Air go to the SEC and tear it up. Wish him the best.
Then why didn’t he stay and compete with Saying?
Lincoln on his way out the door wishing him well
Just amazed at how bad of a recruiter Justin Frye is
It's okay to criticize Frye, the reason they're desperately in need of portal O-linemen is because he doesn't bring in enough quality bodies in the recruiting cycles.
Now Luke Montgomery is playing left
Guard, where has he been all year?
We’re not mad about one loss to michigan. It’s 4 years in a row with a following loss to an SEC school (except for a shootout to Utah).
SUBBED! THANKS FOR ALL YOUR HARD WORK!
I believe World has eliminated OSU. Frye keeps bringing in these OL guys and is asking them to change positions on the Oline.
What price, Urban Meyer?
This is the podcast I needed. Sometimes the propaganda from our fan base is too much to ignore, they may be right, but you can’t make a judgement before the process is ongoing. We have done ptsd from the mizzou game
Wish him the best
Air noland looked at the numbers and said to himself i won't play here.
Smart kid
Remember before Seth got hurt the O-line was in the running for the Joe Moore award and may have won it especially if Simmons had been healthy. It's not Frye's fault the two best linemen got hurt.
Yes it is frye fault, he hasn't developed crap in the 3yr players
Joe Moore award is for the best offensive line not even close just ask Judkins he'll let you know the truth.
Most fans think BIG means good when it comes to the O-Line.... BIG doesn't equate to GOOD!
Why do we even bother with recruiting if we can't develop players. I'm tired of listening to y'all saying our players are being developed. Only those getting playing time are improving, Simmons got better because he was playing every game. He wasn't developed here. CJ Stroud wasn't developed by Day, he won the elite 11 before he came on campus. McCord, Howard, even Brown could be interchangeable. This year, if Nolan or Sayin had started, we'd be where we are right now. Maybe even in a better position. If we're even considering going to the portal for a veteran QB, tells me Day and Kelly aren't developing anyone. Same can be said for our corners. Burke has taken a step back, and Igbinosun is a mauler, which is great rushing a QB, not so much guarding a WR. I thought Sabin was building a program in Bama, but I see they're only as good as their head coach was. Same with Day, he has the opportunity, but I question if he has the foresight. He's only a couple of coaches away from greatness. I hope he sees it.
I agreed. Playing times, paid private training sessions, and self-training programs are what make players improve. These days players have to come in ready to start.
So osu goes after 3stars if they are not in state ? They cant be choosie at this point
Mark they give Sayin his position he didn't earn it. Sayin is scary and he won't hold up
Frye has to go, the Rice tackle said he talked to him about guard and now we aren't in his top 3. Frye is a clown!
The fans want the offensive line to be borderline elite Ohio state should always have a top 10-15 offensive line on a bad year anything other than that isn’t gonna fly
By the numbers this line qualifies for top 10-15. Fans want a DOMINANT o line. This group hasn’t reached that level.
@@bucknuts247sports3 Zen Makowski stepped in and was literally a turnstile. The MTA wanted to hire him to check fares. A teams line is only as good as its depth and Justin Frey put out crap every year.
@ I think it’s more so Michigan can run the ball at will or that’s what it seems like and the fans in general compares Ohio States line and I think it’s more so of that cuz it’s like they get 200 yards on the ground whenever they want and we can’t I think it’s a lot of that going into it
Awesome as always thanks guys go bucks appreciate the coverage!❤
In the few years frye has been here he has maybe developed simmons thats it, guys developed elsewhere don't count
It's all about evaluation just look at Harbaugh's class last year at Michigan 18 people went to the NFL and they weren't five stars or even four stars. They had two years in a row of Joe Moore Award winners and last year their defensive line destroyed Washington's Joe Moore award-winning offensive line in the championship game.
The /results/ for the offensive line is that at the end of the year when we need it most it’s inept
That lose to Michigan was all on offensive coaching and play calling.
Da Chippah wrecked the Eagles. His fingerprints are all over this crime scene. We Eagles fans lived his nightmare.
Mark said it We put lame on the coaches when they develop players get hurt. It’s no fun being a coach these days.
Mark the NFL especially OL has a lot of excelent players who are not 1st rd picks quite often they are grinders- tough guys who get the job done and get you Nattys.
Putting tackles at guards is done for one reason hypothethicly theycare better pass protectors. But you do lose toughness in an ally fight give me 5 guards against 5 tacjles and we'd stomp them Ohio st loses to nichigan not because they are better but because they are the tough boys and we are soft they kick our butt's.
Mariotti needs replaced also
On the defense of Justin Frye, this isn’t a this year only scenario and give Justin Frye some grace because of injuries. The offensive line has been getting pushed around by far lesser talent and teams for years. Anyone that has watched OSU for the any amount of time knows this. It is completely understandable that there is a drop off when starters get injured and you have to go with backups. But the drop off should be this drastic if players were being developed properly. Players that Frye has recruited and developed are not able to play at the level they should be at OSU. Period. You can say the same thing for QB development. Ryan Day was supposed to be this master QB developer. He has not proven that as of late. He recruited McCord, Brown, Lincoln Kienholtz, Air Nolan, and brought in Howard. None of them have been developed to play at this level. How many swings and misses is too many?
The rate at which these fans and online pundits critic n ridicule this team nobody will want to play for the Buckeyes…it’s super toxic! Instead of building your house you are online tearing the coaches n the players down.. why woo these players leave?
Everywhere you look, its doom and gloom fror the Buckeyes.
Ive listentining for yrs the ads are killim me ffs!!!!! I kiss the Gods when it was jus you guys. It sucks balz
In California you can pay highschool player's. Not ruining anything just changing things
The system is broken because there are no speed limits no paramartires no portal cops. Who can fix this ? Diloes the NCAA have any power left any credability left ? And if they do why haven't they stepped in with rules this is truly the wild wild west trusr me the fabs notice and we are pissed off. Why should a team like Kanas st. Continue to play in this system they have .5 % chance of a Natty it is disgusting the highest bidder gets the player.
Losing Devin Brown will be regrettable… these fanatical critics may all have to suit up n play. Tearing their team, coaches n players daily.. ridiculous expectations. Other teams are enjoying n working to beat this team n they will! Ridiculous! All these players will all hit the portal
Ohio State is really starting to feel like a second tier program in terms of being able to get guys out of the transfer portal and get guys in recruiting, especially on the offensive line
They need to try and talk brown into coming back. Love the fire and grit that kid has. Sayin is very talented but he needs to develop physically. The kid is barely 6 foot in cleats on his tippy toes. He needs to put on considerable size to hold up for a big ten season
Go vols , watch that Michigan flag at mid field
Isaiah World doesn’t have Ohio State as a choice. He is rated higher than any names you said. Lol smh terrible scouting. I don't even usually talk about who they get. The need OTs not no OGs.
Blah blah, on what bs you all said about Air. None of you know what was going on. Sayin hasn't shown anything when he got in games. All this practice pushing stuff of him pushing is weird to me. He does not step into his throws. Which is why they are always short.
They been gaslighting Sayin and he looked like trash in the spring game
No need to trash a kid leaving smh
How did they trash him?@@bryande2014
No need to trash a kid leaving...exactly why Day is running this team into the ground
John Mateer
Not a chance here. He wants to start now
@@allensaunders449 he would start, Sayin backup then St Clair
@JimGrahamsr I agree but I don't think the coaching staff is going to go after him at all. They want a roster QB to start. Eventually you have to start using roster QBs or highschool QBs won't sign with you anymore. Plus he can go somewhere he knows for sure will pay and play him
@@allensaunders449 They need to go with Julian Sayin IMO
This coaching staff is absolutely horrible. Not defense…Hopefully air won’t bite us in the butt like burrow and I hope sayin is the real deal for Ryan sake. It’s amazing how this guy destroyed this program and all it took was 1 bad hire. Unbelievable!! then they blame fans for blowing them when they put a shit product on the field.😂
The /results/ for the offensive line is that at the end of the year when we need it most it’s inept
The rate at which these fans and online pundits critic n ridicule this team nobody will want to play for the Buckeyes…it’s super toxic! Instead of building your house you are online tearing the coaches n the players down.. why woo these players leave?
It’s gotten worse over the years. Time to clean the Petri dish
Was it toxic when they were winning beating their rivals? Are fans supposed to accept this mediocrity after the standard was set so high? Alabama fans are the same way. Only differences is that they win big games. Without the fans, no one would give a shit about the games. They are getting paid now. They need to put a better product on the field. End of story.
@@freeone5534 they’ve (bama) literally missed the 12 team playoffs…I honestly believe the toxicity is due to Social Media and ppl ability to have a voice to reach out and touch other ppl they would have never touched
Bama was the first team out and they lost Saban this year they'll be back.