I've known the Chesham branch all my life. I remember the Chesham Shuttle, with the tank engine and three Ashbury coaches running a push-pull service to Chalfont & Latimer. I recall the installation of the bay, and now it's gone! Sad. Good to see the signal box and water tower remain. I remember the two evening trains from London hauled by a Fowler tank (latterly a Metropolitan electric loco) with dreadnought stock - one rake of coaches remained at Chesham overnight, and formed an early morning train into town. In the evening, the earlier rake of dreadnoughts returned to Chalfont, and beyond, with a steam loco (latterly an electric loco) at either end.
I didn't get to Chesham until 1967 living off White Hill. By then it was electrified with a four coach shuttle and daily two morning/evening 8 coachers to/from Liverpool St. The two 8 coachers were held in sidings just past the buffers at the current end of the station each morning. I caught the 8:02 to Moorgate which left just as soon as the shuttle arrived and pulled in to the bay. I had a season ticket Chesham/Moorgate/Putney Bridge, as after work I would go rowing at Putney and return via Chalfont & Latimer to pick up the shuttle. This ticket also gave me access to all the tubes in the centre of London for free. Now Liverpool St. bay is gone, Chesham bay and sidings are gone, Chalfont & Latimer bay is OOS. But we do have a through the day 8 car service Chesham to Aldgate, although now even the fast ones stop at Harrow on the Hill ( we ran through in my day). Great memories.
Essentially all lights are flickering all the time. Electricity in the UK and Europe operates at 50 hertz, so lights are oscillating 50 times a second. In the US, it's 60Hz and because of Ameri-centrism, this camera records at 60 frames per second, so it'll capture the instances that in between oscillations.
Quinn Hue What do you mean “American centrism?” Buy British and get 50Hz devices. I am American and own nothing that records at 50. Whine, whine. Get a backbone.
@@rubyait Because the majority of devices worldwide only record at 60fps and don’t have an option to change it. That’s exactly what Ameri-centrism is you genius
28:29. interesting jawjacking, especially about the fools who jump across the tracks. In Adelaide Australia many years ago I saw 2 youths cross 2 tracks from one platform to the other. they may have wanted to catch the approaching DMU? Well, it nearly caught them. By they time the 2nd guy had his legs up on the platform the train was less than 100 feet away, not stopping & doing 55 MPH.
Metropolitan line has many branch lines compared with other London Underground’s line. It seems complicated operation that trains have different destination.......
@@siroofing5610 The Metropolitan, the District and the Northern all branch in 4 places. The Central branches in 3 places. The Piccadilly branches in 2 places. And the Bakerloo, Hammersmith and City, Victoria and Jubilee don't branch at all.
@@paulkennedy8701 k but the met line only starts to come off in different branches when it gets to the north west near the end of the line, whereas the district line branches off into 2 at earls court, near the middle of the line, and at turnham green for the richmond branch, making that a total of 5 branches.
@@siroofing5610 Actually, I miscounted. The Met has only 3 places of branching. That is 5 ends of line. The District has 6 ends of line. (However, Kensington Olympia is part-time only.) What the Metropolitan has, uniquely I think, is express running. It has both fast and slow services.
LT Lied when they said that the new Met trains would be faster. This train took 1m 45 secs to go between Willesden Green and Neasden the last A Stock train special did it in 1m 09 secs. S8 you snail.
The tracks were relaid in CWR probably 20yrs ago now. That and the S Stock have lost all the line's bouncy charm!🤣 Signal aspects routing you to the NB Main from Watford South Jn are interesting: I hadn't twigged before that on LUL you get G > YY >R stepping up to green plus feather, ie no single yellow.
No. You never get G > YY > R. North of Harrow-on-the-Hill there is 3- and 4-aspect signalling and it works exactly the same as on the mainline. 3-aspect: G > Y > R. 4-aspect: G > YY > Y > R. However on the Local Lines (which we are on in this video) it is standard LUL 2-aspect signalling. Green/red only. But with repeaters. If the next signal (or signals, some repeaters apply to more than one signal but let's not over-complicate it) is red its repeater will be yellow. If the next signal is green the repeater will be green. Repeaters are provided as required and are not always there. On the other hand some signals have more than one repeater. Sometimes a stop signal and a repeater are located together on the same post. But it works the same way. It will show only red if the stop signal is red (the repeater is not illuminated). It will show green over yellow if the stop signal is green but the next signal is red and green over green if the stop signal and the next signal are green. What you saw at Watford South Junction was not a YY, it was a standard LU green over yellow signal. The signal we passed was green, the next one was red at the time, hence green over yellow.
“Fifty nine years old and coming to the end of my life” I can’t believe the driver said that. Going by recent stats he could have at least another twenty years ahead of him.
The chat in the cab on this is just wonderful!
I've known the Chesham branch all my life. I remember the Chesham Shuttle, with the tank engine and three Ashbury coaches running a push-pull service to Chalfont & Latimer. I recall the installation of the bay, and now it's gone! Sad. Good to see the signal box and water tower remain. I remember the two evening trains from London hauled by a Fowler tank (latterly a Metropolitan electric loco) with dreadnought stock - one rake of coaches remained at Chesham overnight, and formed an early morning train into town. In the evening, the earlier rake of dreadnoughts returned to Chalfont, and beyond, with a steam loco (latterly an electric loco) at either end.
I didn't get to Chesham until 1967 living off White Hill. By then it was electrified with a four coach shuttle and daily two morning/evening 8 coachers to/from Liverpool St. The two 8 coachers were held in sidings just past the buffers at the current end of the station each morning. I caught the 8:02 to Moorgate which left just as soon as the shuttle arrived and pulled in to the bay. I had a season ticket Chesham/Moorgate/Putney Bridge, as after work I would go rowing at Putney and return via Chalfont & Latimer to pick up the shuttle. This ticket also gave me access to all the tubes in the centre of London for free. Now Liverpool St. bay is gone, Chesham bay and sidings are gone, Chalfont & Latimer bay is OOS. But we do have a through the day 8 car service Chesham to Aldgate, although now even the fast ones stop at Harrow on the Hill ( we ran through in my day). Great memories.
Thank you very much indeed... nice ride anyway.... regards from Jakarta-Indonesia..👍👍👍
This is like a real life soap opera!
better than the rubbish that's on TV these days!
@@stephthestar90 when you have to pay overpriced TV licence
4:32 you can see the track recording train!
i know
Underground 20
I love your posts I enjoy your banter in the cab as well! QUESTION: why do the signal aspects sometimes flicker?
William H. Baird Oh, it's just the camera. In real life they don't flicker.
Essentially all lights are flickering all the time. Electricity in the UK and Europe operates at 50 hertz, so lights are oscillating 50 times a second. In the US, it's 60Hz and because of Ameri-centrism, this camera records at 60 frames per second, so it'll capture the instances that in between oscillations.
Quinn Hue What do you mean “American centrism?” Buy British and get 50Hz devices. I am American and own nothing that records at 50. Whine, whine. Get a backbone.
@@rubyait
Because the majority of devices worldwide only record at 60fps and don’t have an option to change it. That’s exactly what Ameri-centrism is you genius
@@KasabianFan44 Good start, then ended like an asshole.
literally going into the woods this cab...
Sounds like Ricky Gervais is filming lol
It does actually. Who's he filming with
28:29. interesting jawjacking, especially about the fools who jump across the tracks. In Adelaide Australia many years ago I saw 2 youths cross 2 tracks from one platform to the other. they may have wanted to catch the approaching DMU?
Well, it nearly caught them. By they time the 2nd guy had his legs up on the platform the train was less than 100 feet away, not stopping & doing 55 MPH.
I once saw a driver walking across the Met track.
Does anyone have any info on Prestwood or Chesham in the 80s?
Lots of history of these stations on Wikipedia
@@eulero75 You won't find anything about Prestwood station!
@@peterharris3006 Oh, I don’t know... I have deeply studied the history of Chesham :)
What are the back to back signals for at 41:15?
not sure signal's for the Chesham breach
What's the linespeed north of Finchley Road generally.
25MPH then 50MPH
chesham is not in london
It Metroplitian its a fast train that can go outside london like Watford and Uxbridge for exmaple
Chesham indeed is not in london. It's in Buckinghamshire.
and your point is??
@@MS46532 Uxbridge is in London but not Watford /chesham/amersham
@@jerryfairgrieve7136the borough of Middlesex doesn't exist anymore
Metropolitan line has many branch lines compared with other London Underground’s line. It seems complicated operation that trains have different destination.......
if you think thats a lot of branches then take a look at the district line
@@siroofing5610
The Metropolitan, the District and the Northern all branch in 4 places. The Central branches in 3 places. The Piccadilly branches in 2 places. And the Bakerloo, Hammersmith and City, Victoria and Jubilee don't branch at all.
@@paulkennedy8701 k but the met line only starts to come off in different branches when it gets to the north west near the end of the line, whereas the district line branches off into 2 at earls court, near the middle of the line, and at turnham green for the richmond branch, making that a total of 5 branches.
@@siroofing5610
Actually, I miscounted. The Met has only 3 places of branching. That is 5 ends of line. The District has 6 ends of line. (However, Kensington Olympia is part-time only.)
What the Metropolitan has, uniquely I think, is express running. It has both fast and slow services.
LT Lied when they said that the new Met trains would be faster. This train took 1m 45 secs to go between Willesden Green and Neasden the last A Stock train special did it in 1m 09 secs. S8 you snail.
they will be faster soon as the new signalling system comes into used CBTC/ATO
I thought you rode the Black Cab
what do you mean
well, how do you name the black taxis in London?
I know it's unlikely anytime soon but I would absolutely LOVE to see finchley road-harrow on the hill go CBTC/ATO! The speeds would be amazing!
The tracks were relaid in CWR probably 20yrs ago now. That and the S Stock have lost all the line's bouncy charm!🤣 Signal aspects routing you to the NB Main from Watford South Jn are interesting: I hadn't twigged before that on LUL you get G > YY >R stepping up to green plus feather, ie no single yellow.
No. You never get G > YY > R. North of Harrow-on-the-Hill there is 3- and 4-aspect signalling and it works exactly the same as on the mainline. 3-aspect: G > Y > R. 4-aspect: G > YY > Y > R. However on the Local Lines (which we are on in this video) it is standard LUL 2-aspect signalling. Green/red only. But with repeaters. If the next signal (or signals, some repeaters apply to more than one signal but let's not over-complicate it) is red its repeater will be yellow. If the next signal is green the repeater will be green. Repeaters are provided as required and are not always there. On the other hand some signals have more than one repeater. Sometimes a stop signal and a repeater are located together on the same post. But it works the same way. It will show only red if the stop signal is red (the repeater is not illuminated). It will show green over yellow if the stop signal is green but the next signal is red and green over green if the stop signal and the next signal are green. What you saw at Watford South Junction was not a YY, it was a standard LU green over yellow signal. The signal we passed was green, the next one was red at the time, hence green over yellow.
@@LUAu101
Thanks.
“Fifty nine years old and coming to the end of my life” I can’t believe the driver said that. Going by recent stats he could have at least another twenty years ahead of him.
he Left the Underground in 2017
Is anyone allowed in the driving cab these days? Sounds like quite a crowd
Don’t know
Wow your lucky.
Great to hear such amazing words about Boris Johnson ;)
If only the rest of the country felt the same way...