The BEST Racing Shoe Of 2022?? (Endorphin Pro 3) | FOD Runner
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- Опубліковано 10 лип 2024
- The BEST Racing Shoe Of 2022?? (Endorphin Pro 3) - welcome back to another video and today I am talking about possibly the best racing shoe of 2022 in the form of the saucony endorphin pro 3. I have now taken this shoe out on a speed test and put a monster long run in of 2 hours and 40 minutes meaning testing is complete. Today I share my thoughts on the saucony endorphin pro 3 and why I feel this could well be the best racing shoe of 2022!
What are your thoughts on the saucony endorphin pro 3?
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00:00 - Intro
01:12 - Speed Test
03:28 - Long Run Test
05:56 - Overall Thoughts - Спорт
Thanks for the review
Great review as always. Sports direct have some sizes of the next % 1 on line and discounted.
I’m absolutely loving mine! Intervals are insanely fast and I’ve PB’d my local Park Run in them! The speed seems to come out of no where which has really surprised me,it takes no effort at all.Super comfy on long runs and I’m also going to favour them over the Vaporfly on my next race…Saucony have made a 100% improvement on the Pro forSure 🚀
Love seeing you and Lee running together pal.
I'll send this one to Lorenzo as he'll get the shoe in a week.
I chant to Chris, he's one of our own, he's one of our own! That boy Andy Raynor is one of our own! Best of luck to you and your pursuits. Wish I could watch more, but my schedule is bonkers.
Thanks mate, we haven’t run together in so long as he had a summer of ultras but it’s nice to share some miles with him lately!
Appreciate it mate, I’m always there watching how the team are doing and supporting them… you’re doing a brilliant job with you running considering your schedule, I still am in awe of that 15:30 5K in the middle of a 20 minute run!
Love mine! Good review big boy
Cheers buddy 💪
I have Melbourne Mara in 6 weeks and did a 36km long run in mine on the weekend. I loved them too! Soft, stable, plenty of pop and just a joy to run in. They really bear no resemblance to V1 and V2. I ran on gravel paths with plenty of sticks and potholes so was worried about stuff jamming in the exposed carbon on the outsole but had no issues with them. I still plan to run the marathon in Alphafly’s though atm.
Yeah a massive upgrade from v1 and 2 for sure 👌
Thank you for your review. Planning to use these for a 200-mile rails-to-trails race this November. Unless I get giant rocks jammed in the sole cavity, should work well: great foam, stable for a super shoe, smooth even at low speeds, and feels very light for all that comfort ;-)
Great to hear they’re wide. Very tempted by these!
They’re amazing 👌
Pro3 are my choice for Amsterdam Marathon…loving them, just effortlessly quick, smooth and soft. Such a big update to the 2. I plan to give them the first race out for the Big Half soon.
Awesome! Best of luck at the big half!!
6:00 pace for me is VO2 work :). Year 3 of running for me though 😂. Most interesting super shoe to me on 2022, this and the adios pro 3. Love all the videos Andy!
Keep going! 6:00 will soon become 5K pace, then 10k pace…. Keep up the grind!
@@TheFODRunner there's no stopping, it's a part of me now!
I knew you will love them. Soft light and good energy return and wide 😁. Your remark on the Alphafly.. I just don't get used to them.. Strange pains (Achilles tendons.. Or side of the calf) after every run.. I think that the front (Air Pods) are so unstable that they injured me every time. I guess I am to slow for what they are made for. Endorphin Pro 3 is excellent from 10 min mile to 6 minutes.. Recovery to Tempo.. But much like the Speed 2.. My favourite shoe with the Hyperion Tempo.
Yeah I had a feeling I’d like the too, so glad I’ve got to try them out! Yes the pro 3 I think is more versatile than the alphafly… the alphafly is definitely “get up to speed and hold it”, that’s this main job… this is better at a range of paces
@@TheFODRunner I have now put the Alphafly V1 in the box for storage. When I get colder temperature (20°C) I have will use them. It is now 28°C even in the evening with 90% humidity. OK for slow runs but my HR goes to high if I push it. Even 45 minutes of easy run I am wet like I fell in the pool... Need the wife to help pull my singlet off.. Sauna 🙄
pro 3 is my winner winner chicken dinner for the Half marathon i've got coming up in October! I knew you would enjoy the hell out of this shoe!!!
Awesome! I’ll be using mine in a race soon too! Can’t wait 💪💪
Loved it and I guess I need to buy it.
It’s a fantastic shoe 💪
Beautifully constructed shoe, and the most comfortable racing shoe I have. Especially with my flat feet. But I’m wondering about the outsole. Doesn’t seem great on damp pavement and if the toe off portion smooth out, might it become an issue as the speed roll puts a lot of wear in that area?
Yeah I mentioned the same actually in my first impressions video… it felt a bit slick… still an area to improve on for v4!
I’m hearing good reviews of the PRO3’s, very interested but Bought Alphafly’s v1 for £133 saving for Chester Marathon and doing long runs in my older race day pair of Alphas. Physio went well my right side is over compensating and all main muscles had contracted. Loosened off and feeling easier, doing the rehab to build up left side but back training and feels way better.
Glad training is back on track for you! Alphas for £133 is a bargain, can’t go wrong!
Great video, Andy. I didn't know that Asics doesn't make racing shoes in your size. Crazy! Bummer too because the Metaspeed Sky/Edge are super fun to run in. Have you ever thought about trying a half-size down to see if they'll work out for you? I think most vendors have a good enough return policy that if you take them for a spin and they're just too small/tight you can send them back. Just a thought.
Yeah sad isn’t it! Sadly they only do size 12, not even a 12.5 otherwise I’d probably try… I can’t go a full size down sadly!
@@TheFODRunner right, a full size down is too much. Bummer.
I tried the Alpha 2's, but they simply did not work for my low arches - big blisters. I just ordered the Pro 3's and am super excited to give it a try. I use the original Pros for speed training and Metaspeed Sky for racing currently, but I'm looking for this to become my new marathon shoes. Thanks for the good review.
Awesome! Shame about the alpha 2s… I prefer the alpha 1 to be honest! But hopefully the pro 3 will be the answer for you 💪
I've just received the Pro 3. If you had blisters wearing the Nike, I would recommend to watch my video.
I cannot wait to try this. My heart is in the adios pro 3 but I am open.
They’re worth a go if you can grab a pair!
I'm more of a half marathoner but damn i put in 30k today in these and it was a pleasure.
Best running shoes i have had to date.
For me it's the puma elite nitro fast-r, light, grippy, comfy and fast like it makes you want to go for it.
Went out yesterday with no break in, and smashed my previous tempo by three minutes for a 6k.
These really caught me off guard.
Nice! Great to hear your thoughts on this shoe!
How would you compare this shoe to the Alpha Fly 2, specifically for the marathon? Great review and thanks.
I wasn’t a fan of the alpha 2, it wasn’t really an upgrade from v1 and I felt it was too big and clunky, this is much more like the vaporfly instead, lighter and faster with great cushioning!
Sounds great. I need a shoe a bit more stable (could not run at all with Alphafly) and a little more drop due to fragile ankle and achille. This is a 8mm drop is there anything else ? Maybe ASICS?
This could be a good option yes!! I haven’t tried the ASICS shoes sadly as they don’t make my size 😞
They are pretty amazing..... the tongue is the only thing I have trouble with. It needs some padding...at
least a little at the top.
The tongue on mine keeps falling down below the top lace.
Otherwise, the best I have in my large collection.
Love the colorway.
Yeah it could do with being a cm it 2 longer couldn’t it…. Otherwise it’s fantastic!
I have the V2. I usually been getting them when the new version comes out so they are half price. I really want these and might break the trend of penny pinching after this reveiw.
This is a big step forward from the previous versions 👌
I've burned through 3 pairs of the speed 2s and 2 pairs of Triumphs over the last year. Saucony work for my feet so now they have a banger of a racing shoe I might to have a go in them myself :o If the overdraft allows that is lol
Yeah saucony are producing some amazing shoes at the moment aren’t they, up there for brand of the year!
Just FYI on the next% 2 the Zoom X is different according to colorway. I know that sounds odd, but I have felt them in the store and some colors have softer foam and others firmer. It’s strange but true.
I agree, I have 2 pairs of V2 and not only the foams feel different but performance-wise they're different. The consistency is not there unfortunately or maybe its a commercial decision to use cheaper/ lower quality Peba foams
Hi Andy. I would love to give these a go BUT, I bought the previous version and the absolutely kill my calf muscles. Quite likely it's the 8mm drop. I'm using the Puma Velociy Nitro 2 now with the 10mm drop just got another pair for London.
If you’ve found something that works, stick with it! I really should try the puma racers….
I thought I were the the only person feels Next % 1 is bouncier than Next % 2. Thanks for sharing!
No, they changed the foam for sure!! Not just you!
Great video! I just picked up Alphafly 1 for US$ 160. Would you recommend pro 3 over Alphafly 1? Thanks
Wow that’s a brilliant price!! I’ll be sticking with my alphafly v1 for London but I’ll test the pro 3 soon in a race and let everyone know!
It's an awesome shoe, I will run a marathon in it next week, only problem is the lock down and the sliding tongue. Did you use the last eyelets?
I haven’t used the last eyelets no, I’ve not needed too, I hope you can get the lockdown sorted!
What is better in this V3 vs V1 and V2? . Just seeing you singing its praises (reminds me of you praising the Novablast 1) already made me want to buy a pair at retail price ; Saucony rarely has discounts in my country.
It really feels like a totally new shoe compared to the v1 + 2 I think. They are softer, more responsive, more stable, better grip, still with the same speed roll feel (but now better!).
I also think now the gap between the Speed and the Pro is much more obvious and the pro3 is now right up there with the best racing shoes.
I agree with Vince, it really does feel like a new shoe, the 1 and 2 are very similar but the changes here are noticeable!
I have issues with the tongue moving down and inside towards the instep. The smooth sizing label on the tongue causes it not to grip the socks on that side. Also, if you want next % version 1 you can still get them from Nike outlet stores. I picked up a pair a couple of weeks ago and they had loads of pairs.
Oh wow, I might have to take a visit to my local Nike outlet!! Sorry to hear about the tongue slippage, i was told by a couple of people they had this issue
@@TheFODRunner I got them from the Cannock outlet.
Great review!! Pro 3 must be an amazing long run trainer, kind of Iam using NB RC Elite 2. I would like to know which one is the most responsive. For race day I wouldnt give away Alphaflys
Pro 3 is more responsive than RC Elite v2.
@@MarkSmith_Best-Athletics wow!!! Thanks! Do you have Metaspeed SKY plus ? If you do , What about them in comparison to endorphin pro 3?
For me the Pro 3 and RC Elite V2 are the best option for long runs. They are quite similar.. Not shoes for PB. For that Alphafly V1 or Vaporfly.. I hate Nike for this 😁
@@ricardoreis3844 Yes I have Metaspeed Sky+ and the Sky (First Version which I currently have Marathon and Half Marathon PB's in). The Sky+ feels like it would be better at the back end of a Marathon than the Sky. Both versions of the Sky, especially the Sky+ feel quicker to me than the Pro 3 but require better running form to keep at quicker paces maybe, hence my comments about Pro 3 perhaps being a safer option to run in when my form might go over closing miles of a Marathon. To me the Sky+ has a better upper than the Pro 3. The Pro 3 definitely holds on to water around it's heel collar and around the sides of the tongue if you get it wet, as I did during a 20.5 mile training run recently - where I sandwiched a local Half Marathon ran at aim MP in the middle - getting my feet soaked running through a couple of hosepipe showers and tipping a few cups of water over the back of my neck. I know that I would 100% favour the Sky+ over the Pro 3 in any race if it were wet. In a Marathon if my feet couod be kept dry then it maybe a closer run thing. With regards speed then the Sky+ definitely has the edge for me.
@@MarkSmith_Best-Athletics Many Thanks Mark! I appreciate a lot your regards about those attractive super shoes. Good trainings for you!
Which one has a wider toe box? The Pro 3 or the RC Elite 2?
I haven’t tried the RC elite 2 sadly!
I struggle to buy racing shoes as I need a UK14 or 14.5 & the only ones I can buy is Nike & Saucony. Not a fan of Nike shoes, just didn't work for me but do love the Saucony Endorphin Speed & Pro. Done my HM PB's in the Speed 2 & currently have the Pro2 which I used for a marathon. Have been looking at the Pro3 but just bought a discounted Adidas Pro3 as they had them in my size. Interesting to see how they plan out in my upcoming HM's & decide whether to go for SE Pro3 or Adidas for Rome marathon.
Yeah when you get up into our sizes it’s tough to get stock isn’t it… I’m the same really but I can get hoka too in a 13! Good luck with the adidas!
I only have one 7mi run in mine cos I've been working out the kinks of the alphafly 2..in that 1st run it was very apparent that the saucony pro3 is nothing like the alphafly 2..it may be more like the alphafly 1..it is smoother than either of them and a lot bouncier..will try it on a long run this week..for me the real test is if the bottom of my feet hot get..only to date the alphafly has been able to prevent that..
Give them a good long run test, I was 2 hours 40 mins and no hot spots 🤞🤞
Endorphin Pro 3 is good but sadly I think I'm faster and feel better support in On Cloudmonsters. And noticeable wear on the Endorphin Pro 3 after just two practice runs. Think I will be going with the Cloudmonsters for my first half marathon.
Really good run-down!
I'm thinking about getting this also. My speed 2s are going strong so not sure I need though 🤔
Enjoy the alphafly 2 but worry about wearing it out too quick so maybe get the pro 3.
Also really interested in the new balance elite 3 but not sure how long the wait will be.
Too many good shoes😢
Way too many good shoes, it makes the choice very tough!!
Hi! Would you recommend these as an upgrade? I currently have an endorphin pro 1!
Oh yes, for me these are better than the v1!
@@TheFODRunner awesome, I love the v1 and the reviews for v3 are stellar. Gonna have to head down a store to try it out soon. Thanks so much, keep up the good work! 👍🏻
Saucony Pro3 my choice for NYC Marathon in November...... as fast as the Nike AFN%2, more comfortable and as/more stable when the old pins lose form when the hurt is on, it's just a lot less intrusive on foot than the Nike....the only question was if it is a VERY wet day, the traction is not as good and man does it squelch when it gets wet! Completely different feel/ride than the speeds and the Pro2's......They've knocked it out the park!
They have indeed mate! I’d take a backup shoe incase it is raining but if it’s dry then I totally get why you’d choose them!
@@TheFODRunner yeh Andy..have decided on AFN%2 if wet..Pro3 if dry 👍👍💪🏃
Stop it you lot 🙄 Stop praising this shoe 😂 I am now less than 5 weeks out from Warsaw Marathon and still considering buying a second pair of Pro 3 in the Night Lite version to get a few miles in them prior to racing. Current Hot Pink pair have already hit the 200 mile mark in training and will likely have 300+ in them come race week (so I can't really wear and expect top performance out of them come race day). Do I stick to the original plan and just wear the Sky+ (which I would have to wear if it was wet anyway), or do I order another pair of the Pro 3? Decisions, decisions are driving me nuts 🤔 Still feel like the Sky+ is the quicker shoe that will work better for me on race day if everything clicks, but that it's less supportive and likely to lead to calf issues over the later miles (if I am struggling during the back end of a Marathon then maybe added comfort from Pro 3 is the safer option if it stays dry)? Also going to need another training shoe soon (and love the look of the Pro 3 Night Lite version which I think they are trying to hold the drop on until autumn but already available from one place). Know that I will probably want to try out the NB SC Elite when that drops to see how it compares to the RC Elite v2 too.
@@MarkSmith_Best-Athletics that's the way I feel about the Nike AFN%2....feel is slightly faster, but in the end, I think the Pro3 will be the safer bet for comfort and will punish less when the form goes towards the end,,,,,and in the GMP sessions, I've been hitting similar times, so the faster part is probably more psychological than reality.... Metaspeed sky just rips my calfs up :( .....The Pro3 is the nearest to the plushness of the RC elite V2 with way more give back.....Like you, I think It's a shame they didn't release the SC Elite sooner ....Good luck in Poland!
I used the Alphaflys V1 for a 10mile race at the weekend. And while they performed well my legs were completely beat up afterwards and for a few days after. Was going to use them for upcoming Dublin Marathon but not so sure anymore now. Maybe the Pro 3 are more forgiving? Was also considering the Adidas Pro 3.
I'm surprised to hear that your legs were beat up after running in the Alphafly, personally I found them to be a miracle shoe, I did all my marathon training in them, ran the marathon and then 2 days after running a marathon I ran a half marathon and all this was possible thanks to the Alphafly looking after my legs beautifully 👌🏻 I'm yet to try the Pro 3 but seeing lots of good reviews about them so no doubt I'll end up getting them 😁
@@paulmulks Well I’ve just gone and ordered the Endorphin Pro 3 so we’ll see how they perform!
@@eoincasey5461 Looking at the majority or the reviews you've got a good shoe coming 👌🏻 I'm in the market for the new Saucony endorphin edge so once I've got them then the Pro 3's will be next, the wife is already going mad 🤣 I hope they work for you, if ya get chance come back to this post amd let me know how you find them 👍🏻
@@paulmulks The trick to keeping the wife happy is always order something for her at the same time you order something for yourself, that way she can’t complain about you getting something. 😜
@@eoincasey5461 That is very true ha-ha I might do what she does and buy them, then when she realises I'll deny all knowledge and claim I've had them for ages 🤣
If I could get a pair overnight or two days for Santa Rosa, I would. Alas I'll wait until CIM December. Until then Zoom Fly it is (for the stability in the later miles).
Best of luck for your race in 2 days time!!
Andy...Did you have any issues with the heel collar rubbing your Achilles?
Not at all buddy 👌
@@TheFODRunner excellent....decision made...tnx Andy
I have the Endorphin Pro 3 and love them, but I have had problems with them rubbing my achilles and giving me blisters
@@andrewwhite1972 wear higher socks
Hi Andy ...what i really disliked in the v1 was the steefness of the plate. my feet didn't work enough in these shoes...is v3 more like the RC Elite V2 or the Alphafly interms of softness and bounciness? I just bought another pair of AF v1 (woman version lol ) for 149€ ..fit exactly the same as man version in the same size (last purple colorway 😍) 👏👏👏😁🇫🇷
Yes much softer than v1, it’s very similar feeling to vaporfly v1/alphafly v1 foam, much bouncier!
This is my shoe for London 💪🏾
Fantastic!
5k up to HM..... Vaporfly V1 (which I know you love) or these? Or Alphafly V1? What's your favourite?!
I do mate, love v1! These pro 3 have that same squish as the v1…. It’s the closest I’ve found… gonna race in them soon and find out! Alpha v1 for London though regardless 💪
@@TheFODRunner might have to buy myself a pair soon to see! Still got a pair of unopened Alphafly V1 and Vaporfly V2 mind 😂
How many miles/kms do you think you can get out of the Pros before they start to lose their effect?
No idea, I need to put more miles in these, I wouldn’t like to guess either!
So r u considering to wear it on London marathon?
I’ll stick to the alphafly for London but I’ll use these in my next race to test them out!
this is one of the few times, that i regret to do almost no racing......but i still might buy a pair some time next year just for the fun of it.....one of the very few 2022 releases, i might buy ( besides the novoblast 3, fuji lite 3, ride 15 and the adios 7 wide)
Don’t worry about racing in them, just training in them is a joy!
@@TheFODRunner oh boy, those shoes are really intriguing
My pink color is shift off after 40 km
It’s a lot of money, and I am enjoying the speed 2 and pro 2. But there is a high chance that the pro3 will arrive. Just tried it on, in the running store. Should not have done that ;)
Haha if you try it on and love it, you’ll buy it 😉
I like them but honestly feel no different to my speed 2.
Interesting to hear! I had the speed 1 normal version and speed 2 runshield plus the pro 1 and these are much better for me!
I sent them back because they were very similar to the Speed 2 and got the Speed 3 which is a daily trainer. Excellent shoe. The Pro 3 is WIDE and very comfortable but not a racing shoe for PB where Vaporfly is still nr 1. Long runs at any speed Pro 3 is amazing. If I had to do an Ultra with one shoe it will be the Pro 3. If with 2 shoes then I will add the Speed 3.
@@i.p2088 yes the pro 3 feels good at all paces even slow and easy.
Is it better (faster) than vaporfly 2?
Let me race in them and I’ll let you know!
So…you don’t like them much! 😂
On the fence to be honest 🤔😉
Looks to be a super trainer then Andy 👌😀Did you manage to get entered for this Sunday on the Bridge 🌉?!
I did!