I enjoyed it immensely. About the same as I did the first two. All in all its good. Won't pretend it's perfect but I smile while watching and I love the world building.
My opinion I would say like the leader or kingpin or the a character you said on this video but to be honest the reason I'm hoping the leader cuz again they haven't done anything with him when they set them up way earlier on the MCU so they should at least do something with them and it would fit his storyline for most the like you know by the original incredible hulk show he spent most of the show I believe trying to get the hulk's powers so it could just be him trying to take She-Hulk Powers instead
Could be "The Leader" ... he's the only other person that was interested in studying Hulk's blood, besides Ross. But I was thinking it may be Ross and the Wrecking Crew got their weapons from a governmental superhero weapons lock-up.
I guessed either Kingpin or the Leader! Either way would love to see either come. But yeah Kingpin makes most sense! Can’t wait for episode 4! Woof Woof! 🐶
I'm hyped to see what we're getting next week. Kingpin was already a surprise villain for Hawkeye, and he's gonna be in Echo and the new Daredevil series. I think the Leader is the more plausible candidate considering the emphasis on Jen's blood, the ties with TIH, and how Mr. Blue was messing with Banner's blood. With Shulkie going public, she'd definitely be on his radar.
I can see a way they could still use the terms of Blonsky's release to strong-arm him into the Thunderbolts. His release conditions are that he never changes into the Abomination again and wears an inhibitor (probably like the one Bruce had) that keeps him from transforming in perpetuity, but what if he still wants to be able to turn into the Abomination? I find it dubious that Wong actually forced him to leave his cell in the first place, but regardless of the exact truth they could easily write in a motivation for him to want to be able to use that power, especially now that he's learned how to control it. Val could offer joining the Thunderbolts as a legally sanctioned way for him to get to use his powers. Or they could just be real dicks and use their pull in the government to extralegally alter his parole conditions so he has to be on the team if he wants to remain free. They have options to make it work out in an interesting way, should they want him on that team.
I like the Kingpin idea a lot... I was kind of hoping for the Leader to be behind it and set up World War Hulk, but Kingpin makes more sense and it would be great to see him built up over the Multiverse Saga
Episode 3 was actually pretty entertaining to watch and I actually think that Blonsky could be faking him turn good but there’s actually a good side which would make him just a pay guy for a big bad
Ngl when I heard the crew talk about their boss I immediately thought of the leader. He is known to be after the hulks blood. Makes sense for him, they also get a chance to address the Incredible Hulk movie. And finish it where they left off.
I have my eye on the Leader as the boss only because he was always trying to get the Hulk's DNA to make himself more powerful. But, that doesn't mean that somehow General Thunderbolt Ross is not involved as well.
I’m glad that you focused on the likable parts of episode 3. I felt like episode 2 was a long cold open for episode 3 so the combination of the two episodes were my favorite episode.
The whole Wong breaking Abomination out of prison just to fight him in some tournament is truly asinine. First, in tournaments of any kind, you don't get to pick your opponent. Second, why do they have to enter a tournament to spar anyway? They could have just gone to an empty field somewhere. Third, Wong doesn’t need to risk getting into trouble with the law to break Abomination out of prison because there are tons of other people/creatures/things out there in the different dimensions who are just as strong as (if not stronger than) Abomination to square off against. It's just plain dumb.
i agree i guess people don’t want comedy i don’t know i’ve been watching the mcu since i was a kid and i still enjoy it. it’s just overwhelming sometimes
Not everything needs to be like this though. Like why can’t we get darker stories too? Look at the success of Daredevil. One of the most watched shows on Netflix
@@Kangaroo27 I know but it’s a weird pick because he said was daredevil is in it that means kingpins in it and the weird mashup especially because she hulk can easily beat up kingpin
That line was cut because they realized it was a timeline error for him to say that. Multiverse of Madness doesnt happen until AFTER the events of She-Hulk which is confirmed to take place just after Shang Chi which was in April
Could the boss actually be the Leader? I also think a Kingpin involvement is possible because of Daredevil's appearance. I also thought it might be Val trying to make the Red Hulk for the Thunderbolts.
Are you talking about Wrecker? Because Wrecker is the leader of the Wrecking Crew, and Red Hood is Batman's 2nd Robin. He's a DC character, I think you lost me there.
3:23: You goofed here because Hawkeye takes place Christmas of 2024. She Hulk takes place at least 5 months before it. Originally accoding to She-Huk writer Jessica Gao, She-Hulk takes place right after Shang Chi which was April of 2024 (because the Chinese holiday Qingming festival was mentioned in the movie and Bruce's arm was still in a sling) Of which then Bruce went on a road trip with Jen, the car crashed and Jens's origin as She-Hulk began and she trained with Bruce in Mexico And since that was a flashback scene since in episode 1, Jen said "a few months ago", we then fast forwarded to 'current' She-Hulk story time, which is after Eternals (which was in July of 2024 due to Tiamat being shown in a news article on Jen's laptop) Therefore She-Hulk is taking place after July 2024 but not Winter time obviously since its NYC no snow no one walking around in winter gear etc and defintely not in 2025 either (Moon Knight was early 2025; Ms Marvel was June 2025) One thing I'll note: despite Jessica Gao writer of She-Hulk, herself confirmed the show starts off just after Shang Chi, the Disney+ channel website for some reason, has it listed taking place just before Ms Marvel, which took place June of 2025 (because of the Hala guy's food truck permit saying March 2025, and becausa Kamala's family and community celebrated Eid Al Fatr holiday which lands on June of 2025). However this makes no sense and contradicts what Gao said not to mention the events in the She-Hulk show. It cant take place in 2025 that is a year after Shang Chi not months. Besides, that Dieney+ site also has the timeline for Spider-Man Far From Home placed wrong. They have it before Shang Chi which is impossible because Shang Chi took place within March and April of 2024 and Peter Parker went on a Summer school class trip to Europe in July. So I wouldnt use Disney+ website timeline as a base; since it contradicts itself. . So it could still be Kingpin, but not for the reasons you suggested because She-Hulk factually takes place BEFORE Hawkeye, therefore Kingpin's eyes are just fine right now because Echo has not yet shot him in the face. 12:14 Thats not the Peter Parker memory erasing event. Thats the memory erasing event Strange talked about to Wong in No Way Home regardng that huge party they had. Wong warned Strange not to use that spelll which means it has been used before and Wong probably knows how to do the spell himself. And that makes sense because Wong is telling Jen here in this episode about that spell. He knows about it because he is thr Sorcerer Supreme. Not that Peter's spell happened yet. So once again, this does NOT take place after Spider-Man No Way home. In that office scene, shown in the trailers, they even had a bit where Wong mentions the Book of Vishanti to Jen, which is referencing Dr.Strange and the Multiverse of Madness,. but they cut that part because they realized Wong shouldnt be mentioning that book because MoM hasnt happened yet. Also 8:17 wtf bro why you dissing Incredible Hulk movie?? "We dont dont talk about that movie" ??? That movie was good the hell yo. Much better than some of the newer trash movies MCU has farted out in Phase 4 (ahem Love & Thunder ahem Black Widow ahem Eternals)
For the 2nd time in the past few weeks, I read yesterday that Eiza González is gonna play the MCU'S Elektra which is amazing news because she is an amazing actress but that a lot of ppl have a huge issue with it because she's Mexican playing a Greek person but maybe everyone should realise that obviously doesn't have an issue with it because she's obviously agreed to it and has obviously signed the contract - if she had an issue with it she would have just told Marvel no.
The person that want's She-Hulk blood is The Leader from The Incredible Hulk movie. He does to study people with Gamma Ray irradiated blood, why & how they survived that, how they have these specific superpowers, & maybe want's to know why he doesn't have superhuman strength, stamina, etc.
He only got a drop of Bruce's blood onto the wound on his head Blonsky got a whole blood transfusion. Jen SHOULD HAVE also gotten a whole blood tranfusion (as that was her origin story in the comics; Bruce gave her a blood transfusion to save her life from a gunshot wound to the back from the mafia) but the writers here are retarded so they changed it to "Bruce made an inhibitor device so he can stay in human form since apparently the only way for him to start the process of actually healing his arm from the Snap, is to heal.....in human form. Even though its long established that the Hulk's healing factor is SO much faster and better than human form that Bruce could eat a bullet to the brain and Hulk out immediately and heal from it and spit the bullet out .....buuut the She-Hulk writers needed a contrived plot device to explain why Jen didnt need to be saved by Bruce, so they have a Sakaar spaceship come out of nowhere, scare the shit out Jen who wasnt paying attention to the road anyway while talking about Steve Rogers sex life, crash said car over a cliff, get out of said car with arm wounds, pry open the passenger door and pull Bruce out of the car (making it look like SHE is the hero saving HIM, then he is bleeding so his blood gets on her forearm wounds and she transforms into She-Hulk). And then Bruce says to Jen he 'cant' make her an inhibitor (even though we know he made one for himself within the 5 months after October of 2023 (Endgame) to when he was speaking to Wong & Shang Chi remotely at the end of SHang Chi movie (which was confirmed to be April 2024) ugh
ross's actor is dead, so itll be hard for them to do any kinda of origin of red hulk keeping him as ross, might just be easier to either have chris evans come back to lead the team as old man red hulk and cure him, or have kingpin accidently become the red hulk and recruit him for the thunderbolts. or heck, just leave him alone as we already have a hulk type guy in abom
They refuse to recast T'Challa (to exploit Chadwick's death for profit) But they could recast General Ross despite William Hurt passing away. They could reuse Sam Elliot from the 2003 Hulk movie who played as General Ross but he is 78 yrs old so I dunno
Especially since he was so adamant about using Bruce's blood despite Bruce telling him to burn down and destroy all the samples (which makes you wonder if he did or if SHIELD did).
There were 2 red hulks in Marvel. General Robert L. Maverick can take over for Thunderbolt Ross after he dies off screen, naming the team in his honor, and become Red Hulk
Im on Team Leader, seeing as the World War Hulk is not likely happening. Having the wrecking crew start out as thugs and slowly getting stronger, they probably would be giving a boost the next time they deal with a hulk. And a Hulk story that could work are Gamma World (like in the Earth's Mightiest Heroes episodes) or introduce Leader and the Intelligencia and do a Fall of the Hulks story.
I loved the argument set fourth to the court about abomination it was a excellent argument. Then the breaking out of jail lol 😂 but it being all wong, at least the court scenes are intelligent and actually have some backbone to them.
Everything is proved with a montage of images and explanations or hints. I got the Bathroom scene in She Hulk, Hulk's foreshadowing, the Baxter building, characters foreshadowing. This is all serious work and I want everyone to know what I have discovered. All I ask is first: to be able to send my research and you judge if it worth it or not. I know it worth it and I know that everybody wants to know too. Second and last: I want to be named on my work you will present. That's it!
Kingpin is possible but I feel like it’s gonna be the leader. One reason is because of the small comment that was made in episode one when emil said he went on a rampage back in 2008 because of the governments serum. We know that’s not entirely true since he fully became abomination after samuel stern helped him. And then after that comment Jen asked a question with her being confused that it was the government which cause his full abomination turnout, but that specific question was never answered at that time… it’s a long shot but I felt like this was a tease for the leader’s return
It was definitely left vague for a reason. Think it could be a number of people, the Leader, Kingpin, Holloway, the Powerbroker or even damage control. The hood is definitely a good idea too, tying it together nicely with iron heart. Kingpin would also be great as a large villain for the street level Disney+ hero’s to face. Sharron Carter could have even been working for him, bringing falcon and the winter soldiers show into it as well
I think everyone is forgetting in the first Incredible Hulk movie the leader was introduced and he got to be the leader through Hulk s bloodThey might bring him back
my possible true theory about boss behind wrecking crew attempts to take she hulk blood is valentina trying to use she hulk blood to experiment on ross so that he becomes red hulk and recruited to thunderbolts but also kingpin could be behind it so that he upgrades his strength and become big bad for spider universe
I honestly don't see how Kingpin is part of getting She-Hulk's blood. It doesn't make any sense. I can see Ross so he can be Red Hulk or Leader so he can use it for himself. And I think the Wrecking Crew are being set up by Dr. Doom or Titania. Can't wait for more episodes!!
Wong definitely still knows Peter Parker is spider man, in NWH when Strange told him his plans Wong said "whatever you do just leave me out of it" and I think strange did not include him in the spell
Cosmic Wonder fucked up. She-Hulk takes place after July 2024 (the flashback of how she became She Hulk was "a few months ago" aka immediately after the end of Shang Chi which is confirmed to be April 2024 because the Chinese holdiday QIngming Festival is April 4th 2024 and that was mentioned in Shang Chi in the final battle) Eternals took place early July 2024 an a news article of the frozen Celestial Tiamat is mentioned on Jen's laptop below the article about "Man with metal claws fights in a bar" . Spider-Man No Way Home took place when Peter got back from his summer trip (Far Fom Home) and started school and it lasted through to Christmas of 2024 just before the events of Hawkeye (another thing Cosmic Wonder got wrong because he thinks this show takes place after Hawkeye. It doesnt.) and as we know, Dr. Strange 2: Multiveverse of Madness, took place right after No Way Home (but before NWH's Chrismas epilogue when Peter got his new apartment and made a new sut) Lastly, She-Hulk writer Jessica Gao herself confirmed She-Hulk takes place right after Shang Chi. So nobody knows Peter Parker is Spider-Man yet. as he hasnt even fought Mysterio yet in Venice Italy. And Kingpin has not been shot in the face yet by Echo. Current MCU timeline is actiually post June 2025 (Ms Marvel and Thor Love & Thunder), with Moon Knight taking place early 2025,. so this entire She-Hulk show is set in the past one year before those events.
Wouldn’t wong know simply based off of the fact he told strange not to do the spell it borderlines both realms etc. i forgot exactly what was said and that he wants no part of it, an leaves. He also would of seen the sky opening up and the multiverse coming threw, thus him feeling, strange told him he was doing the spell, and then the sky. I’m sure he would of remembered what a mess it was and has caused since
I think the recking crew is going to get there powers from sharing a blood sample of she hulk and that’ll start them I think just need a reason to go after her so that’s where the boss comes in might just be a miss lead
She-Hulk takes place before Spider-Man no way home. Wong was referring to something else talking about a memory spell because the event in Spider-Man hasn't happened yet. Get your timeline correct LOL. This takes place right after shang-chi, Maybe midsummer. No way home is school year 2024, shortly after far from home that summer. Pretty sure
don’t know if anyone else has made this hot take but their boss could also be Sharon looking for a new type of super soldier serum👀 (idk how much i believe that but jus a new thing that could make sense)
i feel like blonski is actually reformed. theyre gonna use that meditatio retreat to reform villains and make a possibility for them to become heroes. West coast avengers but in a roundabout way. Val may try to recruit abom, but i think that may be a mislead, remember that tim roth isnt necessarily quoted as saying he wants to remain in the MCU
In "Spider-Man: No Way Home," Wong apparently makes a passing comment about a party in which the forgetting spell was used. Evidently, the party was before the events of NWH.
You are correct,. Wong indeed was referring to that party when he spoke about using a forgotten spell.; not the time Dr. Strange used it for Peter. Cosmic Wonder got it wrong. She Hulk takes place canonically just after Shang Chi which was April 2024 and through to July/August 2024. because of the Easter Egg of Eternals Tiamat Celestial beiing in the Indian Ocean on Jen's laptop. Soon, the events of Spider-Man Far From Home and Falcon & the Winter Soldier will happen (as they were confirmed to take place 9 months after Avengers Endgame which took place October of 2023) The events of Spider-Man No Way Home, Dr. Strange Multiverse of Madness, and Hawkeye all take place from Sept of 2024 to Christmas of 2024 (in that order) And then after that, in early 2025, Moon Knight happened, then around June of 2025 Ms Marvel happened, then some time after that or during, the events of Thor Love & Thunder happened because Jane asked Thor "how long has it been?" (since they last seen each other) and Thor blurts out 8 years and something something which then dates it back to 2017 just before the events of Thor Ragnorok in which we had learned Jane dumped Thor.
I thought that was kingpins henchmen right away. Episode 3 could have been worse but it also could have been better, I preferred the 1st 2 episodes but I still enjoyed episode 3, I definitely prefer Deadpool's breaking of the 4th wall, Jennifer Walter's breaking of the 4th wall isn't that great but it's still pretty cool to reference Deadpool.
Wong is a Skrull for sure. I’m surprised there aren’t more theories about who might be Skrulls, but I’m pretty sure Wong is, which might be the way Marvel can get that title moved over to Strange, once they clue in
I be really enjoying this series, the episode seems to fly when Im watching, hopping we got to see daredevil soon really what to see his yellow suit in action
In the first episode, Bruce mentioned that he and Jen had rare genetic dna while could process the gamma radiation to turn them into hulks. If Kingpin wants Jen's blood to be super strong or create strong hencemen, and possibly Titania wants it also, does that "rare genetic dna factor" get thrown out the window. She-Hulk beat Titania in seconds in the court room scene, clearly Titania is under powered compared to the comics and needs a power upgrade from Jen's blood if it is possible. The wrecking crew were also a bit weak in this episode (compared to the comics where they have fought Thor.) Other than that, the courtroom scenes with Abomination were great viewing!
I dont think that no way home has happened while in this show. The memory wiping thing might be a hint that dr. Strange was saying to wong about some party in no way home that wong had wipe memory of others before. Not to mention that here wong said he wiped the memory but in no way home strange was the one.
What I still don't get is that Daredevil and Kingpin are in NY. She-Hulk is in LA. Does Kingpin really have influence in LA? I can't wait to see exactly how Daredevil and She-Hulk cross paths when they live on opposite sides of the country.
I didn't like the first episode as much but with each episode I really have started to enjoy it also the latest post credit scene had me dying even though ik it gets hate
What did you think of she hulk episode 3?
My least favorite one...
But I'm convinced that the remaining eps will be WAY better than todays ep🔥👍🏻😀
Woof woof!
I enjoyed it immensely. About the same as I did the first two. All in all its good. Won't pretend it's perfect but I smile while watching and I love the world building.
After every episode of different shows, everyone says this is my fav episode
My opinion I would say like the leader or kingpin or the a character you said on this video but to be honest the reason I'm hoping the leader cuz again they haven't done anything with him when they set them up way earlier on the MCU so they should at least do something with them and it would fit his storyline for most the like you know by the original incredible hulk show he spent most of the show I believe trying to get the hulk's powers so it could just be him trying to take She-Hulk Powers instead
Could be "The Leader" ... he's the only other person that was interested in studying Hulk's blood, besides Ross. But I was thinking it may be Ross and the Wrecking Crew got their weapons from a governmental superhero weapons lock-up.
But he already got his blood in the hulk movie
Maybe they got wrappons from the tinkerer who was set up in homecoming
If it's Ross who is playing him in place of the late William hurt rip
@@tuff5262 well the leader may want she hulk's blood to help synthesize his gamma radiation better
Ehi a whole il secchio e il pene escono Bitcoin lockdown in shock
I guessed either Kingpin or the Leader! Either way would love to see either come. But yeah Kingpin makes most sense! Can’t wait for episode 4! Woof Woof! 🐶
I'm hyped to see what we're getting next week. Kingpin was already a surprise villain for Hawkeye, and he's gonna be in Echo and the new Daredevil series. I think the Leader is the more plausible candidate considering the emphasis on Jen's blood, the ties with TIH, and how Mr. Blue was messing with Banner's blood. With Shulkie going public, she'd definitely be on his radar.
They quickly realised it was a bad idea as the leader yelled "bad idea!" - Truer words have never been spoken Warren LOL. Love your channel
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For sure I think the “Boss” that the Wrecking Crew has to be the Leader , I think it’s a good idea , it’s very intriguing to see this happening
Seems like its Titania
I can see a way they could still use the terms of Blonsky's release to strong-arm him into the Thunderbolts. His release conditions are that he never changes into the Abomination again and wears an inhibitor (probably like the one Bruce had) that keeps him from transforming in perpetuity, but what if he still wants to be able to turn into the Abomination? I find it dubious that Wong actually forced him to leave his cell in the first place, but regardless of the exact truth they could easily write in a motivation for him to want to be able to use that power, especially now that he's learned how to control it. Val could offer joining the Thunderbolts as a legally sanctioned way for him to get to use his powers. Or they could just be real dicks and use their pull in the government to extralegally alter his parole conditions so he has to be on the team if he wants to remain free. They have options to make it work out in an interesting way, should they want him on that team.
Technically, he shouldn't transform till further notice. At least till his parole comes to an ends or a world ending disaster is about to happen
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I don care about kingpin if unless was an hamburger 🍔 in that context I would care very much
I really hope the boss is gonna be Kingpin! 😯👍🏻
So that they can Set up Echo with Daredevil AND Kingpin appearing in this show🤙🏻😁
They talked about erasing everyone's memory from the party they had. Wong might not be talking about the events of NWH.
I like the Kingpin idea a lot... I was kind of hoping for the Leader to be behind it and set up World War Hulk, but Kingpin makes more sense and it would be great to see him built up over the Multiverse Saga
Episode 3 was actually pretty entertaining to watch and I actually think that Blonsky could be faking him turn good but there’s actually a good side which would make him just a pay guy for a big bad
Ngl when I heard the crew talk about their boss I immediately thought of the leader. He is known to be after the hulks blood. Makes sense for him, they also get a chance to address the Incredible Hulk movie. And finish it where they left off.
I kinda think that the “boss” might be the leader
Just my thought
That’s what instantly came to my mind
I have my eye on the Leader as the boss only because he was always trying to get the Hulk's DNA to make himself more powerful. But, that doesn't mean that somehow General Thunderbolt Ross is not involved as well.
I’m glad that you focused on the likable parts of episode 3. I felt like episode 2 was a long cold open for episode 3 so the combination of the two episodes were my favorite episode.
The blood doesn't have healing properties, the fact that Jens blood processes gamma "better" was healing.
He said “leave me out of it” aka the spell. He still knows everything
The whole Wong breaking Abomination out of prison just to fight him in some tournament is truly asinine. First, in tournaments of any kind, you don't get to pick your opponent. Second, why do they have to enter a tournament to spar anyway? They could have just gone to an empty field somewhere. Third, Wong doesn’t need to risk getting into trouble with the law to break Abomination out of prison because there are tons of other people/creatures/things out there in the different dimensions who are just as strong as (if not stronger than) Abomination to square off against. It's just plain dumb.
The show is so funny. I don't understand the slander
i agree i guess people don’t want comedy i don’t know i’ve been watching the mcu since i was a kid and i still enjoy it. it’s just overwhelming sometimes
Toxic "fans" who are never happy.
Not everything needs to be like this though. Like why can’t we get darker stories too? Look at the success of Daredevil. One of the most watched shows on Netflix
@@crossbonez1028 I sure want darker stories. But I think She-Hulk is fine as it is. But Daredevil should be more serious.
@@crossbonez1028 completely agree with this, a diversity of genre in the MCU would be awesome.
Here are the four possibilities I think the boss could be:
A: Titanium
B: The Hood
C: Kingpin
D: The Leader
E: Valentina
Valentina?
@@bigrandom100 forgot to add her
Kingpin?
@@Blacktears999 that’s what he said in the video I don’t think it is him though
@@Kangaroo27 I know but it’s a weird pick because he said was daredevil is in it that means kingpins in it and the weird mashup especially because she hulk can easily beat up kingpin
She-Hulk: "I do things by the book"
Wong: "The book of the Vishanti"
Yea that’s what they said I guess
wasn't in the show weirdly enough tho i really think it was a funny line in the trailer
@@notBrocker yep yep , just a throwaway line from the trailer
@@notBrocker
I think it is apart of episode 4
That line was cut because they realized it was a timeline error for him to say that. Multiverse of Madness doesnt happen until AFTER the events of She-Hulk which is confirmed to take place just after Shang Chi which was in April
Could the boss actually be the Leader?
I also think a Kingpin involvement is possible because of Daredevil's appearance. I also thought it might be Val trying to make the Red Hulk for the Thunderbolts.
Their boss would be someone who knows the fact that hulk's blood can create more hulks 👀
The Leader/Samuel Sterns would be another possibility, since there was an unresolved set-up at the end of The Incredible Hulk (2008).
That was a great movie
@@kiwiangeldust6912 I dont like Cosmic Wonder dissing that movie in this video. Not cool.
I like the kingpin theory especially since Wong mentioned Spider-Man
Really enjoyed this episode! It was a good balance of fun to seriousness.
Are you talking about Wrecker? Because Wrecker is the leader of the Wrecking Crew, and Red Hood is Batman's 2nd Robin. He's a DC character, I think you lost me there.
His name is the the hood and he is called red Hood sometimes
Best MCU TV single show so far! Loved it!!!
Honestly that post-credit scene is definitely the best one in the MCU to date.😂😂😂😂
3:23: You goofed here because Hawkeye takes place Christmas of 2024. She Hulk takes place at least 5 months before it.
Originally accoding to She-Huk writer Jessica Gao, She-Hulk takes place right after Shang Chi which was April of 2024 (because the Chinese holiday Qingming festival was mentioned in the movie and Bruce's arm was still in a sling)
Of which then Bruce went on a road trip with Jen, the car crashed and Jens's origin as She-Hulk began and she trained with Bruce in Mexico
And since that was a flashback scene since in episode 1, Jen said "a few months ago", we then fast forwarded to 'current' She-Hulk story time, which is after Eternals (which was in July of 2024 due to Tiamat being shown in a news article on Jen's laptop)
Therefore She-Hulk is taking place after July 2024 but not Winter time obviously since its NYC no snow no one walking around in winter gear etc and defintely not in 2025 either (Moon Knight was early 2025; Ms Marvel was June 2025)
One thing I'll note: despite Jessica Gao writer of She-Hulk, herself confirmed the show starts off just after Shang Chi,
the Disney+ channel website for some reason, has it listed taking place just before Ms Marvel, which took place June of 2025 (because of the Hala guy's food truck permit saying March 2025, and becausa Kamala's family and community celebrated Eid Al Fatr holiday which lands on June of 2025).
However this makes no sense and contradicts what Gao said not to mention the events in the She-Hulk show. It cant take place in 2025 that is a year after Shang Chi not months.
Besides, that Dieney+ site also has the timeline for Spider-Man Far From Home placed wrong. They have it before Shang Chi which is impossible because Shang Chi took place within March and April of 2024 and Peter Parker went on a Summer school class trip to Europe in July.
So I wouldnt use Disney+ website timeline as a base; since it contradicts itself.
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So it could still be Kingpin, but not for the reasons you suggested because She-Hulk factually takes place BEFORE Hawkeye, therefore Kingpin's eyes are just fine right now because Echo has not yet shot him in the face.
12:14 Thats not the Peter Parker memory erasing event. Thats the memory erasing event Strange talked about to Wong in No Way Home regardng that huge party they had. Wong warned Strange not to use that spelll which means it has been used before and Wong probably knows how to do the spell himself.
And that makes sense because Wong is telling Jen here in this episode about that spell. He knows about it because he is thr Sorcerer Supreme. Not that Peter's spell happened yet.
So once again, this does NOT take place after Spider-Man No Way home.
In that office scene, shown in the trailers, they even had a bit where Wong mentions the Book of Vishanti to Jen, which is referencing Dr.Strange and the Multiverse of Madness,. but they cut that part because they realized Wong shouldnt be mentioning that book because MoM hasnt happened yet.
Also 8:17 wtf bro why you dissing Incredible Hulk movie?? "We dont dont talk about that movie"
???
That movie was good the hell yo. Much better than some of the newer trash movies MCU has farted out in Phase 4 (ahem Love & Thunder ahem Black Widow ahem Eternals)
For the 2nd time in the past few weeks, I read yesterday that Eiza González is gonna play the MCU'S Elektra which is amazing news because she is an amazing actress but that a lot of ppl have a huge issue with it because she's Mexican playing a Greek person but maybe everyone should realise that obviously doesn't have an issue with it because she's obviously agreed to it and has obviously signed the contract - if she had an issue with it she would have just told Marvel no.
I agree I think it's Kingpin or some kind of Justin Hammer like villain. Would make sense with DD reappearing in SheHulk.
The person that want's She-Hulk blood is The Leader from The Incredible Hulk movie. He does to study people with Gamma Ray irradiated blood, why & how they survived that, how they have these specific superpowers, & maybe want's to know why he doesn't have superhuman strength, stamina, etc.
He only got a drop of Bruce's blood onto the wound on his head
Blonsky got a whole blood transfusion.
Jen SHOULD HAVE also gotten a whole blood tranfusion (as that was her origin story in the comics; Bruce gave her a blood transfusion to save her life from a gunshot wound to the back from the mafia) but the writers here are retarded so they changed it to "Bruce made an inhibitor device so he can stay in human form since apparently the only way for him to start the process of actually healing his arm from the Snap, is to heal.....in human form.
Even though its long established that the Hulk's healing factor is SO much faster and better than human form that Bruce could eat a bullet to the brain and Hulk out immediately and heal from it and spit the bullet out
.....buuut the She-Hulk writers needed a contrived plot device to explain why Jen didnt need to be saved by Bruce, so they have a Sakaar spaceship come out of nowhere, scare the shit out Jen who wasnt paying attention to the road anyway while talking about Steve Rogers sex life, crash said car over a cliff, get out of said car with arm wounds, pry open the passenger door and pull Bruce out of the car (making it look like SHE is the hero saving HIM, then he is bleeding so his blood gets on her forearm wounds and she transforms into She-Hulk).
And then Bruce says to Jen he 'cant' make her an inhibitor (even though we know he made one for himself within the 5 months after October of 2023 (Endgame) to when he was speaking to Wong & Shang Chi remotely at the end of SHang Chi movie (which was confirmed to be April 2024)
ugh
Not Fisk it’s probably ross
Well it’s probably Ross either cause the actor is dead so it’s probably going to be someone else
ross's actor is dead, so itll be hard for them to do any kinda of origin of red hulk keeping him as ross, might just be easier to either have chris evans come back to lead the team as old man red hulk and cure him, or have kingpin accidently become the red hulk and recruit him for the thunderbolts. or heck, just leave him alone as we already have a hulk type guy in abom
They refuse to recast T'Challa (to exploit Chadwick's death for profit)
But they could recast General Ross despite William Hurt passing away. They could reuse Sam Elliot from the 2003 Hulk movie who played as General Ross but he is 78 yrs old so I dunno
We also have Shang chi sister lingering with her starting her own organization.. you never know in the MCU!
I want The Leader behind this Wrecking Crew. I also imagine The Leader as a captive scientist special active working for General Ross.
Especially since he was so adamant about using Bruce's blood despite Bruce telling him to burn down and destroy all the samples (which makes you wonder if he did or if SHIELD did).
There were 2 red hulks in Marvel. General Robert L. Maverick can take over for Thunderbolt Ross after he dies off screen, naming the team in his honor, and become Red Hulk
Its definitely the Leader, not Kingpin.
Im on Team Leader, seeing as the World War Hulk is not likely happening. Having the wrecking crew start out as thugs and slowly getting stronger, they probably would be giving a boost the next time they deal with a hulk. And a Hulk story that could work are Gamma World (like in the Earth's Mightiest Heroes episodes) or introduce Leader and the Intelligencia and do a Fall of the Hulks story.
I loved the argument set fourth to the court about abomination it was a excellent argument. Then the breaking out of jail lol 😂 but it being all wong, at least the court scenes are intelligent and actually have some backbone to them.
I enjoyed it, it's funny. Definitely a change of pace.
It's either the Leader or Valentina. She is building a super squad for the Gov. She has Secret Agent and her Black Widow.
Everything is proved with a montage of images and explanations or hints. I got the Bathroom scene in She Hulk, Hulk's foreshadowing, the Baxter building, characters foreshadowing. This is all serious work and I want everyone to know what I have discovered. All I ask is first: to be able to send my research and you judge if it worth it or not. I know it worth it and I know that everybody wants to know too. Second and last: I want to be named on my work you will present. That's it!
The postcredit scene was by far the most groundbreaking I have ever seen. It completely revolutionized the MCU for years to come
Kingpin is possible but I feel like it’s gonna be the leader. One reason is because of the small comment that was made in episode one when emil said he went on a rampage back in 2008 because of the governments serum. We know that’s not entirely true since he fully became abomination after samuel stern helped him. And then after that comment Jen asked a question with her being confused that it was the government which cause his full abomination turnout, but that specific question was never answered at that time… it’s a long shot but I felt like this was a tease for the leader’s return
That guy with the purple armor from the wrecking crew looks familiar. It looks like something from the Spider-Man Miles game.
We did not dislike the show because she hulk was a woman. We did because apparently her being female means all men need to kneel before her
It was definitely left vague for a reason. Think it could be a number of people, the Leader, Kingpin, Holloway, the Powerbroker or even damage control. The hood is definitely a good idea too, tying it together nicely with iron heart. Kingpin would also be great as a large villain for the street level Disney+ hero’s to face. Sharron Carter could have even been working for him, bringing falcon and the winter soldiers show into it as well
i think it would be dope if marvel casted Ted Levine as the new Thunderbolt Ross. He has the look and for sure the personality
I think you mean The Hood… although seeing red hood in a marvel project would be interesting!!😂
This one was better than the other 2
Kingpin does have super strength in 90% of his appearances
I support this 💪
Doesn’t make sense
Yeah at first I was skeptical but if we see op kingpin like in the animated spiderman show i am all for it
@@foamfan7593 Just imagine Spider-Man 4 being full of savage bare knuckle fights like at the end of No Way Home with Kingpin 😩👌
@@LeonYT. yeah especially if they show off his martial arts skills. He'll be a very deadly foe for anyone who unfortunately crosses his path.
I think everyone is forgetting in the first Incredible Hulk movie the leader was introduced and he got to be the leader through Hulk s bloodThey might bring him back
Boss is gonna be crusher creel, not kingpin
my possible true theory about boss behind wrecking crew attempts to take she hulk blood is valentina trying to use she hulk blood to experiment on ross so that he becomes red hulk and recruited to thunderbolts but also kingpin could be behind it so that he upgrades his strength and become big bad for spider universe
I honestly don't see how Kingpin is part of getting She-Hulk's blood. It doesn't make any sense. I can see Ross so he can be Red Hulk or Leader so he can use it for himself. And I think the Wrecking Crew are being set up by Dr. Doom or Titania. Can't wait for more episodes!!
I wanna see Kingpin become a Hulk
The Wrecking Crew addition was pretty cool for nostalgia considering they get a buff lol
Wong definitely still knows Peter Parker is spider man, in NWH when Strange told him his plans Wong said "whatever you do just leave me out of it" and I think strange did not include him in the spell
Cosmic Wonder fucked up. She-Hulk takes place after July 2024 (the flashback of how she became She Hulk was "a few months ago" aka immediately after the end of Shang Chi which is confirmed to be April 2024 because the Chinese holdiday QIngming Festival is April 4th 2024 and that was mentioned in Shang Chi in the final battle) Eternals took place early July 2024 an a news article of the frozen Celestial Tiamat is mentioned on Jen's laptop below the article about "Man with metal claws fights in a bar"
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Spider-Man No Way Home took place when Peter got back from his summer trip (Far Fom Home) and started school and it lasted through to Christmas of 2024 just before the events of Hawkeye (another thing Cosmic Wonder got wrong because he thinks this show takes place after Hawkeye. It doesnt.) and as we know, Dr. Strange 2: Multiveverse of Madness, took place right after No Way Home (but before NWH's Chrismas epilogue when Peter got his new apartment and made a new sut)
Lastly, She-Hulk writer Jessica Gao herself confirmed She-Hulk takes place right after Shang Chi.
So nobody knows Peter Parker is Spider-Man yet. as he hasnt even fought Mysterio yet in Venice Italy.
And Kingpin has not been shot in the face yet by Echo.
Current MCU timeline is actiually post June 2025 (Ms Marvel and Thor Love & Thunder), with Moon Knight taking place early 2025,. so this entire She-Hulk show is set in the past one year before those events.
Dr.Doom could also be behind this🤔
“The Boss” = The Leader
Wouldn’t wong know simply based off of the fact he told strange not to do the spell it borderlines both realms etc. i forgot exactly what was said and that he wants no part of it, an leaves. He also would of seen the sky opening up and the multiverse coming threw, thus him feeling, strange told him he was doing the spell, and then the sky. I’m sure he would of remembered what a mess it was and has caused since
That makes sense but I think it's leader
I think the recking crew is going to get there powers from sharing a blood sample of she hulk and that’ll start them I think just need a reason to go after her so that’s where the boss comes in might just be a miss lead
She-Hulk takes place before Spider-Man no way home. Wong was referring to something else talking about a memory spell because the event in Spider-Man hasn't happened yet. Get your timeline correct LOL. This takes place right after shang-chi, Maybe midsummer. No way home is school year 2024, shortly after far from home that summer. Pretty sure
don’t know if anyone else has made this hot take but their boss could also be Sharon looking for a new type of super soldier serum👀 (idk how much i believe that but jus a new thing that could make sense)
In the comics, the Absorbing Man was the leader of the Wrecking Crew....
i feel like blonski is actually reformed. theyre gonna use that meditatio retreat to reform villains and make a possibility for them to become heroes. West coast avengers but in a roundabout way. Val may try to recruit abom, but i think that may be a mislead, remember that tim roth isnt necessarily quoted as saying he wants to remain in the MCU
In "Spider-Man: No Way Home," Wong apparently makes a passing comment about a party in which the forgetting spell was used. Evidently, the party was before the events of NWH.
You are correct,. Wong indeed was referring to that party when he spoke about using a forgotten spell.; not the time Dr. Strange used it for Peter. Cosmic Wonder got it wrong. She Hulk takes place canonically just after Shang Chi which was April 2024 and through to July/August 2024. because of the Easter Egg of Eternals Tiamat Celestial beiing in the Indian Ocean on Jen's laptop. Soon, the events of Spider-Man Far From Home and Falcon & the Winter Soldier will happen (as they were confirmed to take place 9 months after Avengers Endgame which took place October of 2023)
The events of Spider-Man No Way Home, Dr. Strange Multiverse of Madness, and Hawkeye all take place from Sept of 2024 to Christmas of 2024 (in that order)
And then after that, in early 2025, Moon Knight happened, then around June of 2025 Ms Marvel happened, then some time after that or during, the events of Thor Love & Thunder happened because Jane asked Thor "how long has it been?" (since they last seen each other) and Thor blurts out 8 years and something something which then dates it back to 2017 just before the events of Thor Ragnorok in which we had learned Jane dumped Thor.
I like how they made the gossiper reporter look like Wendy Williams.
The Wrecking Crew secret boss could be the kingpin or Valentina Allegra de Fontaine
Can’t wait till episode 3
I think The Leader is a bigger villain at She Hulk: Attorney at Law.
I thought that was kingpins henchmen right away. Episode 3 could have been worse but it also could have been better, I preferred the 1st 2 episodes but I still enjoyed episode 3, I definitely prefer Deadpool's breaking of the 4th wall, Jennifer Walter's breaking of the 4th wall isn't that great but it's still pretty cool to reference Deadpool.
Wong is a Skrull for sure. I’m surprised there aren’t more theories about who might be Skrulls, but I’m pretty sure Wong is, which might be the way Marvel can get that title moved over to Strange, once they clue in
Imagine if Marvel bought back ROM Space Knight from Hasbro so we could get Dire Wraiths
also Micronauts so we can get Baron Karza
I be really enjoying this series, the episode seems to fly when Im watching, hopping we got to see daredevil soon really what to see his yellow suit in action
I don’t know how they’ll adapt that without it looking corny
Maybe that is why born again has so many episodes cuz its actually defenders
Maybe they all work for the leader
I think it is the power broker
In the first episode, Bruce mentioned that he and Jen had rare genetic dna while could process the gamma radiation to turn them into hulks. If Kingpin wants Jen's blood to be super strong or create strong hencemen, and possibly Titania wants it also, does that "rare genetic dna factor" get thrown out the window. She-Hulk beat Titania in seconds in the court room scene, clearly Titania is under powered compared to the comics and needs a power upgrade from Jen's blood if it is possible. The wrecking crew were also a bit weak in this episode (compared to the comics where they have fought Thor.) Other than that, the courtroom scenes with Abomination were great viewing!
It was so funny I had to pause it twice I was laughing so hard.
it's the leader
I dont think that no way home has happened while in this show.
The memory wiping thing might be a hint that dr. Strange was saying to wong about some party in no way home that wong had wipe memory of others before.
Not to mention that here wong said he wiped the memory but in no way home strange was the one.
it's a bit of a stretch but the boss could also be the power broker
I thought the boss would be Matt but never thought of fisk. If this theory comes true,it would be ultimate!!!!
Matt???
my mind went exactly to this, when i saw it
It's Samuel sterns also known as the leader
Red Hulk is going to make his appearance before the season ends
I think Wong is running the Thunderbolts or training them for someone.
What about the guy from The Incredible Hulk? I think his name was Brainiac? Be cool if they brought him back.
that’s a dc character 💀💀
@@stacyfearlicia lol
Thats Dr. Steven Stern aka the Leader
When did Feige say Spider-Man and Daredevil would team up? I would like to hear your source
Marvel confirmed the leader to return for captain America world order with the same actor reprising the role,so it’s possible now!!!
It would be cool if Kingpin & Titania get samples of her blood, employee The Leader, and then he transforms them into their comics accurate forms.
I was personally thinking it was general ross trying to get it, I know in real life he's dead but doesn't mean anything
My theory is what if the wong we got in shang chi and in she hulk is actually a skrull who is lying that he needed the abomination for practice
If they recast William Hurt I think Gary Oldman would be great
What I still don't get is that Daredevil and Kingpin are in NY. She-Hulk is in LA. Does Kingpin really have influence in LA? I can't wait to see exactly how Daredevil and She-Hulk cross paths when they live on opposite sides of the country.
I didn't like the first episode as much but with each episode I really have started to enjoy it also the latest post credit scene had me dying even though ik it gets hate
No Fr 😭😭😭 I was laughing and shit
To enjoy you have to understand the tone for sure
@@GXDPLUTX32 I wasn’t. It was disgusting
That was disgraceful
@@kiwiangeldust6912 which part
I think if it was the leader as the big bad would be cool.
No not kingpin. He already has lackeys in the godawful tracksuit mafia.