This is the end of an Era
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- Опубліковано 28 кві 2024
- The Tampa Bay Lightning just lost their NHL playoff series to the Florida Panthers in Game 5. We'll talk the game and look at Steven Stamkos as we recap Tampa Bay Lightning Florida Panthers Game 5 on today's 2024 NHL playoffs video
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I truly think Stamkos takes a team friendly deal to retire a Bolt.
he has too! tampa need a reset,yiserrman is gone need a new idenity
He will unless Breezy tries to outsmart everyone again like he did when he gave up 5 picks for Jeannot.
hopefully
@@Wayf4rer wonder if jeannot wasnt allowed to fight in this series bc of injuries didn't see him do anything trades looking pretty bad now
regardless of what team he'll play on
where he'll BE is in the Hall of Fame when he's all said and done
Stamkos is a franchise player; he IS the face of the Lightning. I am not a Tampa fan, but I hope they do the right thing to honour the man that brought so much success and excitement to the fans, and the franchise.
It all depends on how much he wants. This is eerily similar to St. Louis's situation, and they let him walk. This Tampa team needs to reload and can't afford to give Stammer a big contract if it means scuttling changes to get the last few players needed to get this team back to the playoffs; don't want to end up like the Leafs with too much cap space eaten at the top and nothing left for the bottom.....
@@brandt0it's nowhere near the same situation. The lightning gm at the time and st louis had issues due to st louis exclusion from team Canada for the Olympics
St. Louis was traded, he didn't walk..... Lol.
I hope a deal happens and he retires in Tampa. I graduated high school June 1st of 2004 and 6 days later I was outside the arena with thousands of fans watching game 7 against Calgary on the parking deck wall via a projector. It was awesome. Took a while to get back to the finals and even longer to win again but the core of Hedman, Stamkos, Kucherov, and Vasi have been so much fun to watch the last 10 years. Nothing lasts forever but I really want to see Stamkos retire a Bolt, it hurt too much seeing St. Louis and Lecavalier leave.
The 2nd no goal was ridiculous
According to the technical rules, it’s no goal, but I agree with you about it being ridiculous. That should be a goal
@@NathanLipetzWhy? What’s the point of having a crease then. If you want your goals to count, stay out of the damn crease.
@@DeannaGilbert616 I'm literally saying it's no goal by the rules. Don't know why you are arguing with me. The no goal call was correct
@@DeannaGilbert616 He couldn't get out of the crease. The panthers player was holding and pushing him into the crease. Before the panthers player was contacting him, his skates were outside of the blue paint.
@@MichaelBelseyHe performed a spin move into the crease. If he allowed himself to just be pushed in, it probably is a goal. But his actions made it a no goal.
Stammer is going to make an elite salt lake super soaker
He is gonna retire lol
@@Horsewrangler780 no hes not hes 34 and healthy
@@Horsewrangler780why would he
He actually would. Him and Marner
@@JustaComment93 😭💀
Honestly loved the choice to keep the net open until nearly the very end. If the games been basically decided, then you might as well keep it high stakes hockey for the fun of it.
Since hockey has embraced gambling, this is not a good optic.
@@whysoserious8666because most hockey fans aren't thinking about that, they are seeing playoff hockey
I don't think it was for the "fun" of it rather than the.. "We need to score several times or we go home" of it.
Either way, the right way to go about it. They just didn't get themselves set up in the offensive zone well enough to do it.
As a Bolts fan, I'm just glad I was able to witness a decade of dominance and success. 4 cup finals with this core, including 2 championships. I'll take that over anything that comes our way now. I rest easy knowing that this team brought home the hardware necessary to prove that they were one of the greatest runs in the salary cap era
2 cups in 3 straight trips during a flat salary cap and an expansion draft...Dominance. Two large mechanations of the league made to prevent that kind of dominance and the Bolts ignored both and just owned the East and West for a long time.
Now you know how it feels for those in Chicago and Pittsburgh.
Kuch did not drop 130 points this season just to get dominated in the first round
As a bolt diehard lightning thrive on open ice when the don't have that an have a man or two in there faces they panic lose hockey IQ and make a lot of mistakes kuch hedman point stamkos all need open ice and if they get hit especially kuch they shut down
@@worldneedsmorelove4465oof, that's rough afff. I respect you recognize your teams flaws and don't try to sugar coat what's what. On another note, I'm an avs fan, but who do you think should win MVP? I actually think Kuch should get it cause he brought his team to the playoffs, but it's a hard call
He did, as many bolts fans saw coming.
Testament to the Florida defense really. They are showing that they are the best team defensively.
You could say that he pulled an Ovechkin.
I'd rather have 2 Cups and be on the downswing than 0 and not getting worse. Pittsburgh is in the same boat.
prolly would be 3 had the lightning won game 7 in the conference final in 2016 instead of pittsburgh too
He is not leaving, like does the media have nothing better to do
Well he didn’t get an extension when everyone else did and he was upset about that.
There is a chance he leaves
I bet we'll see a picture of 7 year old Stammer in his Maple Leaf pajamas this summer LOL
@@davidkruse4030 that was the medias narrative. He and his agent knew that the salary cap would go up this summer. He could take less salary to sign early this season or wait till the cap goes up this summer, complete a good year on the ice and get more. I'm sure he and his agent were smart enough to know that. Not to mention if your looking to sign a final deal you want to see what the GM is going to do to make those final years successful and worthwhile.
By June 29th I'm sure JBB is going to present the vision to him knowing how the Crunch did this year, how the draft went and probably offer a competitive salary. I think only the Panthers and Preds can offer potential success and money similar to the Lightning but I don't see him leaving for either.
As a Lightning fan, I thought we played well all series, but simply got outshot, out-toughed, and outplayed by a superior team. I think we'd be up on a lot of other teams in the playoffs, but the Stanley Cup is tough to win and Florida in particular has had our number the whole year. Having watched this team's hot streak the last few months, I wasn't expecting this flat of a response to adversity come playoffs.
Nothing to be salty about but our own play. Florida is on a heck of a run.
To imagine Stamkos anywhere else...it's weird.
I remember when people said the same thing about Ray Borque and Mike Modano.
@rorybiller that's red wings legend Mike Modano
Just like Kane
They left to get cups tho. Stammer has his rings@@rorybiller
I could see him in a sabres jersey
I’m surprised Eck didn’t drop a vid on that Nashville Collapse against the Canucks
later tonight
Late as shit 😭
@@safejewel2072 it’s chill for us Vancouverites over here ✌️
@@safejewel2072douche
@Commander-Appo Im a Rangers fan and I picked Vancouver to get to the Finals against the Rangers in my brackets. Hopefully '94 all over again 🙏
The comms talked about Stamkos' contract like he was dying tomorrow, as if there's no possibility of him signing back with the Bolts. It's a huge mistake to not resign your 40 goal scoring captain, proven to be the heart of your franchise - what will that mean for the rest of the locker room?
Cats fan here, and I don't like the language myself of "passing the torch," either. At the very least, we need to make another Finals run this year for there to even be consideration of the idea that the torch has been passed. Looking forward to another exciting series against (probably) the Bruins, though.
Props to Vasilevskiy, though; he really was the reason those first three games especially stayed as close as they were. Bob just outdueled him in the moments where it mattered most.
Vasi was the better goalie but bob had the better defense
Good luck to you Cats. Die hard Bolts fan for life, but I hope you all take it. Something about the league not taking hockey in our state seriously for so long makes me want one of us to always be doing well haha
@@lowprime I can agree with that overall, absolutely. When I'm talking about the outdueling, I'm very specifically talking about it in the key moments throughout the series, where the Lightning really had opportunities to break a game open and get on the board sooner than in Game 4.
@@brian_of_farce Crossing fingers! It's been fun to have a few years of real progress and success down in Sunrise. Here's to many more years of heated series. Much respect.
as a lightning fan this game broke my heart to watch especially towards the end
As a Leafs fan, you don't understand heartbreak lol😊
Similar to how I felt as a Panthers fan in 2022.
@@people3865we might not understand what it’s like to experience seemingly unending pain and torture like your team has given you over the last 20 years, but yes, we understand heartbreak.
It was heartbreaking to see Jon Cooper pulls Vas so early… I really hope Stamkos stays though.
@@Computer3478game was already lost when he pulled the goal tender just couldn’t have timed it any better lol throwback to the Philly vs Washington game 82 😂😂
i think the goaltender interference drama makes sense but i also think if you allow a little contact to the goalie infront of the net guys are gonna be trying to skirt the line and "accidentally" bump the goalie the way we have it now isnt the best but atleast its clear just dont touch the goalie in the paint
except he didnt even touch him
@@clark85 you can see moves bobs glove when he spins around it isn’t much but the rules pretty clear
Absolutely. The rules as is are intended to reduce grey areas in interpretation of the rules. You can't be on top of the goalie or making contact in the blue paint and expect your goal to count.
If the rules are changed to make goalies have to fight more for space and positioning in the crease then teams will do their best to take advantage of that and you'll get a lot more situations where it comes down to a ref's interpretation of the rules. Rules in sports are always best when they are black and white, it's when grey areas get introduced to rules that you end up with controversial situations where one night the goal counts and on another it doesn't.
Tampa just needed to stay out of the blue paint on those goals and it's possible at least one goes in and potentially changes the outcome of the game.
@@TheZombiemofowell put. Also, the defining difference in both those no-goals was 10 & 71 went into the blue paint all on their own.
They have all that ice to work with out front, goalies only have the blue, yet both want to stand one or two feet in it. The call is simple and clear. Coopers crying about it was epic. I'm sure all teams try to overturn every goal anytime it seems they can. You don't want the reversal? Stay out of the blue, or make sure you're being forced in.
Go in on your own, make contact = no goal.
@@clark85 yes he clearly does bump him any slight contact takes the goalie off his angle, which is goalie interference, its his crease not the skaters, if he's outside the crease its fair game, or wait till the puck enters the crease
You guys won back to back cups. Any other franchise and their fanbase would be thrilled to have that.
(and 3 straight finals)
Meh, Covid Era shortened season bubble cups. Should have * next to both of em.
@@PeppermintPepperoni not to mention the ridiculous manipulation of the salary cap... only Las Vegas has an argument for being more fraudulent with their success.
Still a back to back no matter what cherry picking you wanna cope yourself with
Should the asterisk say, “the pandemic changed the 2019-20 and 2020-21 seasons for all teams. The Tampa Bay Lightning, who had the best record in hockey the previous normal season (2018-19), tweaked their roster following an embarrassing first round exit in 2019 and won back to back cups. The next season (2022-23), under normal conditions, the lightning, despite losing significant depth players from each previous cup run, won the eastern conference and 2 games of the Stanley Cup final series before falling to Colorado in game six. The Lightning have a track record of success before and after the 2020 bubble which demonstrates the legitimacy of their championship victories.
The fall of a dynasty:
2021 Defeated the Habs 4 games to 1 to win consecutive Stanley Cups
2022 Lost to the Avalanche in Stanley Cup Final
2023 Upset by the Leafs in Round 1
2024 Outplayed by state rival Panthers in Round 1
GM Julien BriseBois has a lot of work this offseason to retool an aging team.
Stamkos won't go anywhere. These big-name potential free agents rarely ever leave their team, it's always a letdown.
Stamkos staying on the ice soaking it in.. speaks of true leadership
I don't understand how Tampa wouldn't resign Stamkos. Sure, maybe a shorter term deal but if you look at his production in a vacuum that doesn't include age, the man scored 40 goals this season. Although I am sure he takes a team-friendly deal, it's not like we're talking about Matt Cullen in Pittsburgh or Rolston in New Jersey for fuck's sake. Stamkos isn't a spring chicken but the guy is still killing it and producing at a very high level.
Because in the end, what does that matter? There comes a time when sacrifices have to be undertaken; where the most difficult decisions have to be made in order to to ensure that there is a change; that there is a step forward. Yes, Stamkos will forever be a legend in Tampa Bay, but the time has come for him to move on, and for the Bolts to move on from him. Sooner or later, everyone, much like everything, has an expiration date. Everyone is replaceable, no matter how good or bad they are. And considering Stamkos has spent an incredible 16 seasons with the Bolts, I think he's achieved more than enough in his career.
@@conorcahill5422 Is this chapter 1 of your thesis?
@@braddyboy82 No, that's just a fact of life you just have to take on board. Or don't. That's your loss.
@@conorcahill5422he’s saying you yap to much. We all know what happened the last time stamkos had a contract up. He came onto Tampa radios and announced he’s back. He’s not leaving. I think he’ll retire before that happens
@@conorcahill5422 I'm not a fan of the Lightning and have only a passing interest in their team.
bout time you brought it up
Hopefully he comes back to us ! He played his heart out ⚡️⚡️
Tampa is a good example of why depth is so important. Look at all the guys they lost from the actual Cup-winning teams. Killorn, Palat, Goodrow, McDonagh, Blake Coleman come to mind.
Johnson...
Pat Maroon as well.
dont forget guys like maroon, gourde, paquette, callahan or girardi
It’s really sad how time flys
*flies
flies*
It was nice to see Kucherov, Mr. I don't care about the fans at the all-stars--got stripped of the puck in a critical situation. Bye.
For the two disallowed goals which are very questionable to me, it leaves a sour taste even though Florida was the better team in this series and deserved to go through.
As for the future, Tampa in last year playoffs and in this year was forming new defensemen younger who were a lot less experienced and it showed in terms of the amount of turnovers. That being said, Lilleberg (23), Crozier (24), Perbix (25) and Raddysh (28) have all learn to play better hockey and reacted well under pressure so no matter what happens with Dumba and De Haan, Tampa's future on the short term is set at the defense and we can expect these guys to get more responsible as they get more ice time and learn. A year without any new acquisition at the defense and without too much injuries in which these guys could just play together and learn from Hedman Sergachev and Cernak would help and would stabilize the defensive play. The transition following the departures of Bogosian, McDonagh, Cole and Rutta took time but I feel like will be completed next year until Hedman leaves which is not for now.
On the offensive side on the other hand, this is where the Lightning have to make the transition. Point, Kucherov, Cirelli, Hagel, Paul are staying no matter what. Stamkos I think will finish his career in Tampa. It's the other 6 for the next 3-4 years which is concerning. If Duclair wants to stay, Tampa would keep him. But the thing I'm still not seeing is which young players can replace in the lineups the Killorn, Palat, Perry, Maroon and Bellemare that played a great role in the Lightning two stanley cups. Motte is playing great, Glendening why not. But where are the youngers guys on which you're counting, they're lacking. Tampa will have to adjust its offense in the next 2 years, hopefully, after this reset, they might be a bit competitive. They're clearly going for the Boston method and not for the total rebuild. The thing is that the Atlantic division will just become more and more competitive. Detroit, Buffalo, Ottawa, Montreal. A lot of young good teams with a bright future in front of them. You look at the other teams, Boston, Toronto and Florida which are all playing exceptional hockey, you have to expect Tampa to be out of the playoffs in no time if some younger players don't come around helping Tampa score some more goals
Lightening over the past 10 years have been solid. It is a great organization and I am sure they will successfully rebuild.
Lightning gave it their all, but Bob and the Panthers were elite and took every tiny chance they had during the series. They're definitely favorites for the final.
You can't expect goalies to fight through other players, their gear makes them extremely vulnerable. The calls were correct, and ANY contact should be no goal.
Not a Bolts fan but what a hell of a player. Helped bring 2 cups to Tampa and one of the best players of this generation.
When talking about goalies fighting through a screen...I remember a time when the defenseman would absolutely clean anyone in the crease for the sake of vision. Now it seems they're part of the problem.
Just force the forwards into the goalie and any goal scored will called back!
If there’s evidence of a Defenseman pushing a player into his own goalie it’s a goal. You can’t push a player into your goalie.
Stammer should get a contract until the end of his career.
They should keep him at all costs, he is that important to the team.
As a bolts fan of 22 years (that I am old enough to remember), I really feel like Kucherov might have cost this team at least a game 6 if not maybe even a game 7. It felt throughout this series, but especially in game 5, that Kucherov's "decision" to chase 100 assists* may have had an impact on his goal scoring. Several times especially in game 5 he had rush opportunities that old Kuch would've blasted at the net but instead he would spin, hesitate, force a pass, and then turn the puck over. The few times he did actually shoot he missed excellent shots from the slot and down low in the circle which has always been his sweet spot. It looked like that choice* to focus on assists may have at least made it easier for FLA to blanket him and led to him getting frustrating much easier and ultimately having a goalless series. I also feel like Kucherov's antics both after the cup wins and the whole all-star competition, did paint the TBL organization in a bit of a negative light. All of that being said, I do think Stamkos returns on a very team-friendly deal so he can stay in Tampa until retirement. However, purely based on value to the organization and leadership, if Tampa can't find a way to resign Stamkos I'd rather sell off Kucherov and then look for some better fwd and def depth to make Stamkos' return worthwhile. Likely an unpopular opinion, but Kuch does have a 10-team no trade and considering his antics and behavior I really wouldn't be surprised if he waived it anyway. He is seemingly more focused on stardom than winning as a team.
** chasing 100 assists: The stat line eludes it is at least a possibility... before February he would frequently have multi-goal and multi-assist games and averaged around 6.5 SOG per game. After Februrary his goal scoring dropped to single goal games and only recorded a single multi-goal game (2 goals) after he added a hat trick in mid January. His SOG also dropped, averaging around 3 SOG with numerous single shot games in that post-January stretch. Meanwhile, his assist production obviously skyrocketed with 19 multi-assist games in the last 40 games, when he only had 9 in the first half of the season.
TLDR- The stats would show Kucherov focused on assists in the 2nd half of the season, sacrificing his shot in the process which MAY have made it easier for FLA to hold him goalless in the series and led to lots of frustrations and missed shots from the lightning's top producer. IMO someone so focused on their own stardom has no space to call themselves a leader in this organization.
The camera catching him on the bench late in the 3rd....tried to break his stick and couldn't....as easily as they break nowadays..epic.
Don't let your captain walk.
Sincerely,
- Sharks fans (we're still not over it)
Right now when emotion is high, hard to tell. I think with a few lucky moves stamkos stays with us.
Stamkos had 40 and 41 this year in 79 games. Hes still a #1 center and he should get 8mil minimum. One of the most underrated #1 picks of the 2000s. 60 goals, above a ppg in his career. 5 cup finals. 2 cup wins. Really lucky to watch that guy play.
actually 4 cup finals not 5 although I firmly believe if they had won game 7 of the conference final in 2016 instead of pittsburgh to make it 5 cup finals, they prolly would've won the cup and then it'd be 3 cups. And i would say maybe $6.5-7 million cause ofc he's getting up there in age but is still producing. He frankly should've been the Ted Lindsay Award in 2012 over Malkin. I agree on Malkin getting the Hart trophy after crosby missed most of the 11-12 season absolutely I was very glad he got that award but Stamkos should've had the Ted Lindsay after putting up 60 goals on a mediocre team in my honest opinion. Guy yah is the 2nd best goal scorer of his generation and I would say top 20 goal scorer all time and top 100 player all around all time with a 60 goal season and with a career average of around 40-45. Quite impressive even after a couple significant injuries along the way
Almost every goa could be called back by those standards last night…
Exactly. The NHL has no standard and depending on the ref a new precedent is set each night.
The Lightning will have the same situation the Hawks had, except without the SA hopefully. They’ll remain competitive for a couple more years and then fall off completely
Stamkos is going to re-sign as a Bolt.
Fighting through a screen? In both replays, Bob's stick was kicked out of his hand...lol
We don't know for sure if it is. We are all hoping he stays in tampa cause the guy is the heart and soul of that franchise who single handedly revived them when he first got there in 2008 and quickly established himself as one of the most electrifying goal scorers all time and one of the best captains all time who essentially turned them into a dynasty between 2015-2022 with 2 cups and 4 cup finals and presidents trophy. He's a guy who deserves to play whole career with just 1 team. Hopefully they do maybe a 3 year extension worth maybe $6.5 million not too long or too short so he can retire a bolt since in 2027 he would be 37.
I get your point on goalie interference but those two were textbook definitions of it.
As a Lightning fan, I'm sure going to miss him a lot
Tampa didn’t have the effort you need to win, they deserved this loss. Still sad
Although we've come to the end of the road, still I can't let go. It's unnatural; you belong to me, I belong to you.
As a Bruins fan I’m going to miss Stamkos play great captain and leader 2 Stanley cups
I at least thought Tampa Bay made more of a playoff effort than Toronto is in these playoffs.
Great player and captain ,
Tampa needs some new talent to have a real cup run. They need Cap space to do it. Tampa management knows this.
3 options here:
- Stamkos gets all $ but won’t have a cup winning team.
- Stamkos get turned down and is traded.
- Stamkos takes a pay hit but has a better team to hopefully win the Cup.
That’s how I see it atleast.
I think the reason goalie interference has to be called as such, is that if there's a certain level of contact a goalie is expected to fight through, It would be hard to determine how much. It would end up being rather subjective ( more so than it already is) and we need to remember that Goalies are a non-contact position, they cannot be expected to engage in any sort of contact. " Fighting through a screen" means what exactly? Retreating deeper into the crease? Goalies aren't focused on their positioning on another player, they're focuses on the puck.
tb had their three year run. Just an older first round flame out now with no draft capital next few drafts.
Stammer is one of the best captains in the league, a true leader. Bolts would be dumb to let him go but i think he'll re-sign.
If Stamkos doesn't end up resigning to Tampa, is there a chance Yzerman gets him to sign with the Red Wings?
yes, yes, yes....Stamkos on LW, Kane on RW!!
i grew up watching hockey in tampa before the stadium rebuild and stamkos was a regular with lecavalier. He is their mascot essentially, everyone loves stamkos and it would be a franchise ending mistake to not keep him on if he wants to be there.
if you go to a lightning game you will see vassy and stamkos jerseys forever
Dont forget about those dog shit refs, thats gotta be covered.
Yep panthers didn’t get a single power play in Game 3, refs sucked in this series.
If it wasn't for the refs the Bolts win in 4!
@@jeffnossan1083 Many are saying this!
OK, Trump, if you don't win, it's fixed LO.L take your ass kicking and go back to Tampon bay
The Lightning have had a culture of domination in their play for the past DECADE. LOL. Till the Panthers win a cup and SUSTAIN that level of dominance for as long, the torch has not been passed. The Bolts are getting older and might have lost some power but they are still a team to not take lightly. From a fan of NEITHER team I love seeing this battle.
Sorry, the Torch belongs in South Florida I seen it After game, 2 Tampa knew they were done And their coach knew it also.
@@frankpropri540 As I said you need to replicate that type of dominance to call the torch yours. Lol. At least from a player culture point of view and how that translates on the ice.. Look, I’m a Flyers fan and I’d be an idiot to say that the Penguins don’t still hold the keys to the state of PA just because they’re on the down swing. They can still compete at a higher level even though their core is on the way out. Just saying
Anyone that thought this was going to be different is mistaken. Tampa’s 3rd and 4th line is not comparable. Did “BOB” play well yes but many times during games he has no pressure on him.
5 goals in 4 playoff games is what a good captain does in the playoffs. Unlike another almost 34 year old captain from the GTA who only has 1 goal and 0 assists in 4 playoff games this year.
I think it was last game with a Tampa for Stamkos…and he knows it 😢
I'm a Bruins fan, but not seeing Stamkos in a lightning jersey would make me cringe
Stamkos is a top 20 player in NHL now . Canada proud of him be nice to finish up on a Canadian team your choice of course lol. Congrats stammer
he should've been in the top 100 greatest players in 2017. What a joke he was snubbed from that list
I want him to retire a bolt but man we need him in Chicago
Funny how everyone likes Vegas for being ruthless on their roster management. But everyone else has to do “right” for their legacy players.
He’s not leaving either he gets paid a bunch of money or takes a team friendly deal with a team committment towards winning more cups
my company built stamkoses house here in tampa
He's not leaving Tampa. Infact I would expect him and Hedman to get extensions through at least 28 - 29. They are clearing retained trade salary and a bunch of LTIR this summer. I'd expect Conor Sheary to be bough out as he was a horrible fit. Maybe they move Cernak and retain some salary since he's been injured and ineffective. Depending on how the Crunch do this post season we could see a 2015 youth movement type of team to give the Bolts some speed. In such a case they can likely be relevant for 4 more years at least. They start to get more draft active in 2026... if no more picks get traded... which should help with a rebuild scenario by 29-30. Then the opportunity opens up for Point, Kucherov, and Sergachev to take the reigns with the hope they resign soon after.
Definatly a path forward here and ownership understands part of filling the building each year is having a playoff or cup capable team. If it takes buyouts or salary retention they will make it work.
In the 5 games played how many goals and assists did Kucherov have?
7 assists.
@@peterburlin8198 And that means zero goals? That is not good.
@@jamesgoertler133 well kucherov is more of a playmaker and a passer not necessarily a goal scorer like stamkos who obviously can both shoot and pass but is more known as a scorer
@@ethanparker7900 That cost his team the series then obviously because if your one of three forwards you need to put the puck in the net to win. No goals ... No wins!
@@jamesgoertler133 yes but realistically you shouldn't expect kuch to always score since he is more of a passer
how many times are you going to get goalie interference wrong? you cannot make contact with the goalie in the blue paint, unless the puck enters the crease first, then you can, if you bump the goalie in the crease no matter how slight the contact is, its goalie interference, you are preventing the goalie from freely moving in his crease if he's outside the crease its free game, if the puck enters the crease you can bump him all you want, its not complicated
If I had a nickel for every time a 500+ goal scorer on a wildcard team got eliminated in these playoffs within 1 day, I would have 2 nickels. That isnt a lot, but its more than you'd expect.
I think Stamkos will re-sign with the Lightning. It will be interesting to see how they do that with the Cap. A few players will be walking for sure. LTIR has helped the Lightning in previous years but not this year. No draft picks. The Lightning will definitely be a different team in the fall.
Thanks for the memories SteStam
I believe they find a three year final deal that works!
Wiki how article was fire
Steven for Mitch lighting?
Refs decided this game. Bolts lost the first 3 games no doubt. But the fix was in for this one.
Oh boohoo, look back to barkov getting that bs penalty last game.
@@fergar0206 Penalty is a tad difference from goals being completely taken away lol. Don't worry, the league doesn't want a FL team to win the cup. That ref love will be leaving next round.
I guess we have to get a cup now.
Still couldn't be prouder of our Bolts team. The Panthers have a really good team and we lack the depth to really go toe to toe with them and yet the games were still close. I don't believe they'll let Stammer go and if they do the fans will riot.
The Florida panthers have to appear in 3 straight Stanley cup finals (winning 2) in order for the torch to be passed to them
I just dont think the lightning can sustain another cup run unless theres some hefty changes
I agree that we're not seeing a "passing of the torch" until Florida wins a Stanley Cup, but I also think the Lightning are no longer the team that they once were. They're entering a decline phase that all championship teams eventually go through. The Lightning will probably still be good enough to make the playoffs in the next few seasons and may even win a series, but it's only going to get harder for them to contend for a Cup as other teams continue to improve and as their star players age out of their careers. Then it'll be time to rebuild.
Stamkos has the scariest slapshot in these playoff teams. Still.
coming from a lifelong caps fan, him and ovechkin are the kings of slapshots. Ofc Chara and weber too were dynamite with those but no one was ever as consistent or as accurate as stamkos or ovechkin
Any see kuch's fall 30 seconds in? 😅
The goalie interference calls were correct, technically and in all other ways. They ticked every box.
I am going to wonder if interference should be called when a teammate is contributing to the opposition interfering with the goalie.
When they are clearly pushed in, the goals count. Neither was the case in these 2. 10 & 71 went in all on their own, made contact in the blue. Any team would have argued for the same thing.
All that ice is available, but they just had to skate into the blue...it's on them.
If the money and term is reasonable someone like the ducks should be looking at him. Mentor all those young studs they have
He’s going to Montreal for his friends Marty and Vinny!
Stammer is going to Detroit 😮
5 goals in 4 games as a Toronto fan I wonder what its like to have your core produce post season. Id be alright with the losses if they could just put the fucking puck in the net.
The crease is the goalie’s full stop. If you have an attacking player in the crease (and not forced there by a defending player) and the goalie’s ability to defend his crease ***in any way*** the goal is disallowed.
The goalie doesn’t have to “fight through a screen”. The defending player doesn’t have to touch him.
You don’t want your goals disallowed? Don’t go into the crease.
Otherwise WTF is the crease even for?
Tampa will re-tool and be back in contention in a few years.
Goaltenders can just push out of their crease and trip themselves on players at this point, treated like butterflies, this is the playoffs... that outside crease should be contested, rat refs & league.
I like hockey.
" I like them french fried po-ta-ters,....uh-huh"!
blackhawks should sign stamkos (to be their captain until he retires, & play alongside/mentor bedard
You’re right the #Bolts still have a great team
POLL: does Stamkos take a discount or depart as a free agent?
What would a lesser contract really matter? I'm fairly sure he doesn't need the money at this point in his career. He fits so well with the others he has played with for so long. Why NOT take something that keeps him as captain, keeps the core team intact and doesn't financially limit the team at the same time?
It's like honor over money, greed over a legacy.
It's impressive to me, the teams that have built a roster that isn't such a revolving front door.
Pittsburgh, Boston, Tampa in particular. While others make most of their club about money, not a culture of a club. (Capitals)
I think the first goalie interference you showed was a pretty reasonable call, but that second one seemed very soft, esp for the playoffs.
They shouldn’t have gotten rid of Big Rig I tell ya!!