Don't Draw ANIMAL LEGS Like This!

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  • @wingedcanvas
    @wingedcanvas  Рік тому +110

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    • @samueljanzen2389
      @samueljanzen2389 Рік тому +2

      At 2:34 you got the ostrich leg wrong, 1 is the shin, the femur is up in a squat position, most birds have their thighs hidden, to be fair

  • @kayasadao4826
    @kayasadao4826 2 роки тому +2563

    I feel like almost everyone who makes videos like these go into a rant about something inspecific, but your videos actually help and have taught me more than any of my art teachers :]

    • @Bluemoonaj45672
      @Bluemoonaj45672 2 роки тому +41

      Agree, because it's could be someone's art style, they can draw what they would like to.

    • @anxia-tea5846
      @anxia-tea5846 2 роки тому +56

      “Drawing it this way…” *loses subject and starts ranting about personal trauma*

    • @kayasadao4826
      @kayasadao4826 2 роки тому +23

      @@anxia-tea5846 I didn't see this reply till now but literally yes, my teacher started ranting on why they started drawing and how they have a comfort style (which I completely agree me too-) but I'm just tryna learn - tell me personal stuff in free time..

    • @FunkyObjectParody
      @FunkyObjectParody Рік тому +1

      @@anxia-tea5846 exactly

    • @Cytl-bu3nq
      @Cytl-bu3nq Рік тому +1

      That's because everything is a rant that comes out here.

  • @dickish-duck1090
    @dickish-duck1090 2 роки тому +1678

    Question; would this technique apply to ducks? Just curious, no reason.
    Edit: I'm slowly losing my sanity over how many people are talking about a "Duck-Army". I honestly didn't know something like that existed until now, but you know what? I suppose it's a thing now. Anyone who wants to join is automatically considered a member. Rise-up duck army.

    • @axoltheartist
      @axoltheartist 2 роки тому +278

      *SEND ME WHATEVER CREATURE YOU MAKE I WANT A PRECIOUS HALF DUCK*

    • @saltedfissh
      @saltedfissh 2 роки тому +128

      quack quack army

    • @NeptuneSketches
      @NeptuneSketches 2 роки тому +97

      I wouldn’t mind joining said army

    • @AWild_ORCA
      @AWild_ORCA 2 роки тому +86

      Let me join the duck army please

    • @AR_Animates
      @AR_Animates 2 роки тому +50

      ducke army \o/

  • @3v1l73ddy
    @3v1l73ddy 2 роки тому +567

    I definitely think it's possible to make platigrade anthro legs work. I personally like drawing them this way, just don't ignore the heel ya know. You're basically changing out the toes for paws, not the whole foot. It weights the design more human whilst keeping animalistic features. However, if you want to weight the character more animal, go with the more animal leg proportions. I also feel like plantigrade works less for bird legs and hooved legs for some reason, maybe just cause I see it less I unno.

    • @annasolovyeva1013
      @annasolovyeva1013 2 роки тому +45

      There are humans actually capable of walking on their toes, so my answer to this is probably ballet. Just copy a ballet dancer in flats on half-points, or straight up en pointe (modern pointe shoes with wide box e.g. Gaynor minden work amazing) , and then add fluffy toes.

    • @MiniEarthmoverAriel
      @MiniEarthmoverAriel 2 роки тому +16

      I think paws are Similar to toes in a way since we are animals but I can be wrong.

    • @bluecanine3374
      @bluecanine3374 2 роки тому +14

      @@MiniEarthmoverAriel toes and balls of feet iirc. Then the arch of the foot is stretched out for animals and the heel is up in the air

    • @petrfedor1851
      @petrfedor1851 2 роки тому +12

      Funily nough I notece oposite problem in paleoart where someone drawing extinct animal that was plantigrade as digitigrade. Happens a lot with Amphicionids (aka beardogs) and Nimravids

    • @word6344
      @word6344 Рік тому +7

      Plantigrade feet rely on a wide "palm" of the foot to spread weight, rather than the toes, which digitigrade feet use.
      Bird feet are mostly toes.
      Hooves are as far from plantigrade as anatomy can get. Hooves are literally fingernails being walked on.

  • @lightningbug6234
    @lightningbug6234 2 роки тому +1619

    Zootopia does plantigrade legs. They don't get rid of the heel, they just move it to the floor. Also, you can look at real life cats. When cats stand up on their hind legs, they're temporarily "plantigrade". That's why I think the plantigrade legs are more realistic, because real animals choose to stand on their heels when they stand on two legs.

    • @MiniEarthmoverAriel
      @MiniEarthmoverAriel 2 роки тому +54

      Aren't like the mlp ponies's feet plantigrade? I'm not very good at sketching while drawing and doing the lineart first instead of sketching. I want to make animation similar to mlp with my animal characters.

    • @LeRouxFilms
      @LeRouxFilms 2 роки тому +126

      Yeah, that's what I was saying. If an animal is going to stand upright, technically it would have evolved into the plantigrade form. The heel isn't going anywhere, it's just in the same place ours is

    • @guizintheinsect5022
      @guizintheinsect5022 2 роки тому +58

      Hey,Just discovered that if an human stands on four(in some specific ways,no,not that way,okay,both erotic and normal ways)it turns into an digitigrade,so,you're correct

    • @batwolfy7044
      @batwolfy7044 2 роки тому +93

      @@MiniEarthmoverAriel I believe horses have a different thing going on. Which is unguligrade.They just basically walk on their toenails.
      Sure, knowing horse leg anatomy can be useful for drawing ponies. But it's not a necessary thing to know.
      Some people have a different way of drawing mlp pony legs. Like more horse-like. And some people just stay closer to the official mlp art.
      That's just kind of an artstyle thing I guess.

    • @MiniEarthmoverAriel
      @MiniEarthmoverAriel 2 роки тому +27

      @@batwolfy7044 I draw most of my animals platigrade half of the time except my dolphins/orcas, some of my birds, and Raptors/dinos. I'm not really a mlp fan but that's nice to know horses actually walk on their toenails. I have horse therapy and Its cool.

  • @luco663
    @luco663 2 роки тому +295

    For plantigrade legs with paws you can extend the paw a bit so you can still have the heel, and then have the fluffy toes and toe beans. Ive seen ppl do it and it actually looks good if done right.

  • @Styxintheriver
    @Styxintheriver 2 роки тому +893

    "legs should match the body they are attached to"
    Not necessarily, my mom's dog is a really unluckily bred mutt who's got a super chonky barrel-like body, and basically toothpicks for legs. He does have issues with his joints.

    • @vaporean_boylove.0w083
      @vaporean_boylove.0w083 2 роки тому +146

      Guess this is a Majority Rule. There are some exceptions with the depending factors.

    • @salty_3k506
      @salty_3k506 2 роки тому +124

      It always depends on the context. If you make the conscious choice to draw the legs way too thin because you think it's more funny and/or because there actually are dogs like this, it's okay. But mostly, people draw legs just because they don't know any better which isn't good.

    • @Thomas-rt7do
      @Thomas-rt7do 2 роки тому +11

      Well, in compensation I bet he's adorable

    • @alink2dfuture504
      @alink2dfuture504 2 роки тому +1

      Fun fact: nature did not make dogs, humans did. That's why they're pretty much almost always fucked up in some way or another, because We Don't Know What We're Doing™️

    • @KaliTakumi
      @KaliTakumi 2 роки тому +6

      You say "not necessarily" while also ignoring the word "should" in the original quote

  • @ratgoblin5011
    @ratgoblin5011 2 роки тому +222

    This helps me a lot since I’m working on a humanoid species and most of em are built for running around doing violence and hunting, and the making the bird feet larger helps with one of the sub species I’m basing off of birds that dive after fish. Thank you.

  • @dreamt0wn739
    @dreamt0wn739 2 роки тому +223

    Weird to point out I think, but in personal experience, furry art (especially art closer to realism) is a really good reference, since theres a pretty large range of animals you can find, and considering that many furries are digitigrade animals, and walk on their hind legs (usually), it’s good for reference! You could even find actual fursuits and reference real life pictures! =)

  • @alsiredwood5642
    @alsiredwood5642 2 роки тому +731

    No but why was this, deadass, THE most informative video I have seen yet?? Like not only is the art style absolute eye candy, but the way you edited the video as you explained was possibly the best I've ever had _anything_ explained. Lord, if only school taught me like this... Truly astonished, well done ❤️

    • @bearythepanda6590
      @bearythepanda6590 2 роки тому +3

      Eye candy 😌💅
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    • @avi_mation
      @avi_mation Рік тому

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  • @Wolfrover
    @Wolfrover 2 роки тому +70

    Nicely done! As a side note, bears and raccoons are also plantigrade, as are skunks.
    While I don't draw, I do write, and it's important to know how the legs work when describing your character's movement.
    Digitigrade legs are made for forward movement. It's a permanent runner's stance. Digitigrade legs are wonderful for speed and rapid changes of direction -- as long as you're moving forward. Their main issue is the limited load-bearing surface, since the heel is off the ground. Just watch a dog try to walk backward sometime. Running species, such as canines and felines, are digitigrade.
    Plantigrade feet, on the other paw, are the best for supporting weight and gripping surfaces. Climbing species, from raccoons and bears to rats and squirrels, are plantigrade, as are birds to make use of their talons. (They're very talon-ted.)
    There is a third one, however: Unguligrade, the hoofed mammals. Unguligrade takes digitigrade to its logical extreme, maximizing speed at the cost of flexibility )and thus balance) and grip.
    So, realistically, both digitigrade and unguligrade bipeds will have a forward lean, due to the heel being off the ground. More realistic versions are likely to need mobility aids, such as canes or walkers.

    • @feuerling
      @feuerling Рік тому +6

      Birds (like their ancestors the theropod dinosaurs) are generally digitigrade. There are some that are plantigrade because they're specialized swimmers and aren't that great at walking.

    • @misterwu7233
      @misterwu7233 Рік тому +9

      @@feuerlingittle note: the geese are digitigrade too. The webbed part is the toes, not the whole foot. Thing is, the legs are hidden in the body, so as plantigrades we see the foot and think that the heel is the leg and the webbed toes are the whole foot.

  • @skygazer6082
    @skygazer6082 2 роки тому +105

    As someone who struggles with limbs (paws or legs especially), this is extremely helpful!

  • @pizzatimegirl1344
    @pizzatimegirl1344 2 роки тому +21

    Finally!! After so many years of research... And painful ADHD limbo I can finally say I'm learning art from a video!!
    I have finally found a channel that ACTUALLY teaches art and goes straight to the point!!!
    I'm self taught... But I only draw humans... Yet your way of teaching anatomy is so handy and accurate, as if a teacher is teaching me without the need to shove unrelated topics. I'm so glad I found this channel. I'm basically taking classes with you!!
    Thanks for your tips, you're a hero 💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜✨✨✨✨✨✨✨✨

  • @rorysteil7523
    @rorysteil7523 2 роки тому +144

    Could you possibly do a lesson on how to draw robots while still making them look cool? I keep trying to make it realistic (with their limbs being made of metal, not necessarily as flow-y looking as a human) but it keeps coming out just like stiff and bad looking :/. I think it might be good to draw it like a person wearing armor maybe? But i don’t really know how to draw that either…
    Edit: Oh wow, thanks a bunch to all who commented helpful ideas/tips! Surprised by the amount of info y'all have. To anyone curious, my robots are looking much cooler :) TY!

    • @rheafonfabre
      @rheafonfabre 2 роки тому +18

      Maybe start with the outline of a person then sort of section it off into like the metal plates or something?

    • @mimthyss
      @mimthyss 2 роки тому +38

      If it looks stiff, then maybe it's just your gesture. Start off with only a gesture drawing, as if you're going to draw a human, so that you can find a nice flowy pose without getting distracted by detail, then start building from there. If you're making it like an android anyway, if you're making a robot that doesn't resemble a human - like, it's overall a more boxy shape without legs for example - then of course it's going to feel stiff. Robots are made of a stiff metal after all lol. The only flexibility is wherever you add the joints, just like a person in that regard. Maybe you could try looking up some inspiration of how professional artists - like game designers? Concept artists? - create robots and see how they might keep it from feeling stiff. :>

    • @AtlasAttakus
      @AtlasAttakus 2 роки тому +6

      What helps me is to exaggerate size and shape to make it feel organic despite being mechanical. For example, extremely thin hydraulic limbs with large extremities or vise versa. Also, maybe try including more “joints”. There are plenty of examples of individually inflexible parts coming together to form something semi-flexible (think of the solid segments of a spine, prosthetic fingers, and hinges- although the parts of each are solid, they are connected in a way that allows flexibility). This can also lend to the illusion of organic movement. Hope this helps!

    • @annasolovyeva1013
      @annasolovyeva1013 2 роки тому +6

      For person in armour it's good to look at historical reenactment. Like "How a man shall be armed XV century" and "the Knight" videos. I'm a larper and observing knights armour helped me to fix human anatomy and proportions, especially with legs, now that i draw knees as piramids on my sketches as it's seen in armour knee plates and that helps me to figure where the leg goes, same for elbows. Drawing breastplate the way it is is also a lot better for poses then just a square. Note that breastplate is as short as a riebcage, it's just visible. I dare say that trained knights in armour are anything but square robots, they move swiftly and smoothly and the outline of a good armour is beautifully curved. It lefts possibility for lots of movement. The perfect knight's body shape is male hourglass with wide shoulders, found breast and small waist, and then hips, that helps to distribute weight more evenly, so is the silouette of an armour. I saw people doing acrobatics in their early XVI century armour replica.
      As my relatives work as space robot scientists, I actually dare say that knight in armour is totally not realistic robot portrayal at all. Actual robots don't have human anatomy and proportions. What robot hands do is that they have a lot of joints and form a beautiful chain arch shape while moving, and they're quite swift also. They typically bend in inhuman way. Real robots are closer to vehicles with long manipulators, then to humans, they're bulid on purpose.

    • @orbismworldbuilding8428
      @orbismworldbuilding8428 Рік тому +1

      I recommend looking at actual robots.

  • @CaptainFishEye
    @CaptainFishEye 2 роки тому +19

    depends on preferences there is no incorrect standerds, but for anottomy sake you cleverly simplified it pretty much which is great for beginners. i know people are too hyper critical these days to tutorial artists who usually goes with titles of "dont do this" but im gald i found your channel cause you elaborate on what you did.

  • @RayneCatwings
    @RayneCatwings 2 роки тому +37

    The second one you drew it literally one of my dogs. She's a huge fat round chonker, but her legs, instead of being fat, stretched out so now I call her "The Barrel on Toothpick Legs"

  • @italianhoundxalitoliw
    @italianhoundxalitoliw 2 роки тому +23

    dude i just found this channel and there's already so much to look forward to

  • @jazzy4694
    @jazzy4694 2 роки тому +34

    i just found this channel today but i love what you are doing!!! i love that you are helping artists and for FREE???? thank you so much!!!!!! please keep doing what you're doing!!!!!!!!

  • @kendradupree1094
    @kendradupree1094 2 роки тому +19

    the worst animal legs i saw was one this christmas candy dish it had this statuette of a lady reindeer on it, she had digigrad legs but human feet so there was her knee joint, ankle joint, another ankle joint then the toes joint (it looked like she had a broken calf bone)
    something it fell at some point and when i fixed it i took the chance to make her legs right because had been buging me for years

  • @Chrle_Gde
    @Chrle_Gde Місяць тому

    love the wings, legs, and tail of the art at 5:15

  • @Scrimgly-scrumbly
    @Scrimgly-scrumbly 2 роки тому +66

    I actually just found this channel today and the first video I watched was pretty neat so I am exited for this

  • @maddhat2393
    @maddhat2393 2 роки тому +24

    Wonderful this is helpful because I draw odd humanoid creatures and could not get the legs right. Thanks!

  • @dicerson9976
    @dicerson9976 Рік тому +4

    Both plantigrade and digitigrade could anatomically function, depending on several factors. Neither is unrealistic (though obviously a drawing that literally removes the "foot"/"heel" is gonna have issues), it just depends on what exactly the creature/person is getting out of it.
    Generally speaking, digitigrade legs are better for moving very fast- since they use the heel/foot as an extra point of leverage and push themselves with just the toes/paws. But that form of movement is alot less stable and energy efficient, making it not as good for long distance travel or endurance- plantigrade is much better for both of those things, as evidenced by our evolutionary specialization as endurance hunters. Kangaroos are weird because they get around by jumping, which is entirely different from both of those forms of movement. Though they stand plantigrade, when hopping around their legs are in a digitigrade position- in essence they are using the ludicrous leverage of their longass feet to push off as a digitigrade animal would, but at such high speed that they "stride" through the air and lose contact with the ground entirely since they do it with both legs at once.
    But, when speaking in terms of fictional anthropomorphic animal people, just about any of these could work out anatomically. Whether its regular human-like plantigrade legs and feet- just with puffy clawed toebeans instead of toes- or more "realistic" digitigrade legs with the more pronounced heel/foot joint and heavier proportions.

  • @-touya_todoroki
    @-touya_todoroki Рік тому +1

    2:51 Rabbits are also plantigrade! they follow similar body structure as kangaroos, but their front feet are more digitigrade but not by much as they often use them as hands/balancers then feet they will balance on their hands/paws to take a step

  • @LosOcmasoriginales
    @LosOcmasoriginales 2 роки тому +1

    those "don't do" drawings are literally 20 times better and more proportional dogs than I can do

  • @muted__dreamer
    @muted__dreamer 2 роки тому +4

    Amazing video! Covered a lot of the basic things when it comes to digitigrade legs on a human figure. One note I have, for more depth, is looking into unguligrade legs(hooved feet, like pigs, horses, deer, etc)
    Unguligrade is very similar to digitigrade, yet it also has the toes off the floor as well as the heel(they walk on their toenails/hoof instead of the toes)
    But yes amazing video and brings up a lot of the ignored things when it comes to legs on characters

  • @Meliatc
    @Meliatc 2 роки тому +28

    can’t wait for this to premiere. not very good at this cuz i’ve never drawn an animal before.

  • @SOLO-mimi
    @SOLO-mimi 2 роки тому +82

    Valeu cara, você me ajudou bastante! :3 apesar que eu não entenda oque você diga exatamente. Achei sua ilustração incrível :33.

    • @sucumbindo4021
      @sucumbindo4021 2 роки тому +3

      Mano, tenta usar as legendas automáticas do yt, já ajuda bastante.

  • @TheSpeculativeDoodl
    @TheSpeculativeDoodl 2 роки тому +5

    Maned wolves are so disproportionate, they are amazing

  • @jade_illustrations
    @jade_illustrations Рік тому +1

    Perfect! Awesome! Amazing! Dazzlous! Stupendous! Now time to figure out how to draw digitally 😃

  • @ramennight
    @ramennight Рік тому +2

    Funfact: While bird bones are hollow, they are also denser. This means their weight actually equals out. Also, they aren't nearly as fragile as people think. Their bones are just designed for torsion forces experienced because of flight and not blunt force from direct impact.

  • @Nyx_Moonz
    @Nyx_Moonz Рік тому +1

    I appreciate how you are the only person that will ever explain anatomy to me and I won’t get bored. I love it so TYSMMMMMM

  • @bluecanine3374
    @bluecanine3374 2 роки тому +1

    One animal you can look to are bears. They are plantihrade and have roughly same proportion thigh to calf ratio, just their hind legs are shorter overall in relation to human. I think that could be a good reference for people.

  • @JunyoungJang-r4z
    @JunyoungJang-r4z Рік тому

    Thank you for always blessing us young artists, beginners, and lost one’s with these videos helping us reach our goal for drawing

  • @realfalanuhlaalu
    @realfalanuhlaalu 2 роки тому +14

    I draw digitigrade characters a lot, even tho I might mess up to proportions sometimes I still know that it's not "backwards knees" more like an exaggerated tiptoe. works well with mammalian and some reptilian chars but I've struggled with avian ones, thankfully this video gave me some insight regarding this.

  • @littledark6498
    @littledark6498 2 роки тому +10

    Now try draw half-arachnid humans, PLEASE, I saw WAY too many anatomy inaccuracies and I hope you'll be able to fix that.

  • @nightshade5606
    @nightshade5606 2 роки тому +9

    I will be honest, I will probably never use this because I like to go by my own rules (😅), but this is certainly very informative and helpful for those who need it, and your art style is absolutely stunning!!!! 😊😊😊💖💖💖

    • @Silencer796
      @Silencer796 9 місяців тому

      I hope you learned the rules before breaking! I’m not trying to be mean, this advice just follows me now lol, first learn the rules of art before you break ‘em!

  • @TheOneAndOnlyKittyCat
    @TheOneAndOnlyKittyCat 2 роки тому +19

    Hi there!
    Don't forget that there is never a "right way" to draw things like this! Any leg type is okay to use as long as it is applied correctly. Don't let other artists tell you you're doing it wrong because you're not doing it their way!

    • @botarakutabi1199
      @botarakutabi1199 Рік тому +2

      If the goal is to be somewhat anatomically correct, and to have convincing figures, there's definitely a wrong way to do it. If there's a goal, or objective, one can make objective statements about how to reach that goal.

  • @_ANGLER
    @_ANGLER Рік тому +1

    3:50 frog legs right now! Yessss😂❤ Also I'm subbing cause I need Tutorialssss!

  • @heartfelt_hero
    @heartfelt_hero 2 роки тому +10

    I do feel like plantigrade vs digitigrade is a style difference, like it doesn't hurt to do it the scientifically wrong way

    • @bathnoodles2753
      @bathnoodles2753 2 роки тому +10

      well, yeah! pretty sure this video is for people who care about more realistic proportions. if you want to do anything in a more stylised or cartooney way, go for it!!

    • @heartfelt_hero
      @heartfelt_hero 2 роки тому +4

      @@bathnoodles2753 oh yeah, that makes a lot more sense, I do really like the videos on this channel, they helped me do snouts a lot better

    • @botarakutabi1199
      @botarakutabi1199 Рік тому

      However, if your goal is to have convincing forms that move in understandable ways, then keeping anatomy in mind is very important. I always always tell young artists that want to draw people/animals of any kind in any style, learn anatomy first. Learn to do it more realistically first, so you can understand how to make it stylized while still convincing. Making a character that works like a human in every way but their feet typically caused an uncanny valley of sorts. It's humanoid, but doesn't walk right, it's creepy. Like that one chupacabra alien movie with the backwards legs.

    • @botarakutabi1199
      @botarakutabi1199 Рік тому

      ​@@bathnoodles2753 Even if you do a cartoon style, it's best to still understand anatomy. So your characters look like they can move. And if they do, they move in ways that make sense. That way it isn't so uncanny to the viewer. Unless your goal is to creep out the audience by how the character either doesn't look like it could move, or that it's constantly in pain if it did.
      I watched some cartoons where the movement of the characters was painful to watch, because either the story board artists or the animators didn't understand how human bodies moved. They didn't understand how arms move around a shoulder, or how the body should move when people walk, ect.
      That's why I always tell young or aspiring artists to learn anatomy. If you want to draw something with anatomy, try to understand that anatomy first.

    • @bathnoodles2753
      @bathnoodles2753 Рік тому +1

      @@botarakutabi1199 if youre just a hobbyist u can really do whatever u want

  • @ftthecartoon
    @ftthecartoon Рік тому +1

    This video helped me alot when I tried to design a rabbit/frog cryptid type creature for my art class.

  • @CarlytheWolf23
    @CarlytheWolf23 2 роки тому +4

    I always thought of plantigrade animal characters as just their foot was just shorter like humans are, so idk if I wouldn't say it would be removing a joint, more of shortening a part that's attached to the joint. Oh and I'm kinda curious about in regards to birds that don't have hollow bones, as there are some like penguins, loons, and puffins. And I now also am curious about other reptilian creatures like the crocodilian family or amphibians, lizards, etc, heck even arthropods(animals with exoskeletons).

  • @Griffinsong
    @Griffinsong 2 роки тому +3

    Nice informative video.
    My only gripe is that the ostrich graphic you used is incorrect, it is not including the thigh and the knee joint [ostriches have very short thighs which are usually hidden under the feathers near the body] Ostriches are the only birds which walk not just on their toes, but only on the tips of them, and they have a fourth visible joint between the first and second phalanges of their toes, similar to the fetlock in ungulates.

  • @eliwazzhere
    @eliwazzhere 2 роки тому +2

    i discovered this from looking at my dogs, and other's art, but its really nice to see someone else explain it

  • @emilywang2153
    @emilywang2153 2 роки тому +3

    oh wow i remember seeing part of this on the video about horns and ears and snout (like above the canvas kind of cut off)

  • @BlueminNight
    @BlueminNight 2 роки тому +4

    Boi this should be interesting
    glad I found this channel

  • @hllwhalt8835
    @hllwhalt8835 2 роки тому +1

    so I've been recently trying to experiment with my art and omigods, this channel is a lifesaver

  • @fantastic_fern9135
    @fantastic_fern9135 2 роки тому +3

    3:20 that’s actually not true, bird bones are heavier than mammals of a similar side because their bones are denser. Their bones are hollow so they have air pockets to help them breathe while flying.
    Another fact about bird bones: they’re stronger than mammal bones due to being denser, as I said earlier, so they’re harder to break. However, if they do break, they shatter and splinter, while mammal bones break more cleanly, so it’s probably worse if a bird breaks its bones than a human.

  • @Nike_IV
    @Nike_IV 2 роки тому +2

    This premiers at 1am for me and I’ve got school tomorrow so I’ll have to watch it when I wake up :< even sadder because I’ve got a few OC’s with animal (mostly bird) legs.

  • @jujuoof174
    @jujuoof174 Рік тому

    You free art tips helped me SO MUCH and my art, THANK YOU!!

  • @jujuoof174
    @jujuoof174 Рік тому

    Thank you I owe you so much and learned so much from you!! Best art teacher EVER!! It's genuine so kind and sweet of you to offer all of this great knowledge for free, so THANK YOU!!

  • @beatrizferraz593
    @beatrizferraz593 2 роки тому +2

    depends on the look you're going for, you can do the whole leg, but just the foot and stylize it, like I do, if it's bunny, big feet, if it's a dog, not so much, depends on the look you're going for

  • @justarandomdepressionperso1857
    @justarandomdepressionperso1857 2 роки тому +1

    I love your work this helps me allot!
    Im a young artist I would say my age but I am under 16 but I love your work! I like studying animals and basically every anatomy and you made it match perfectly! I'd say the legs on the humans need to stay shorter or longer depends on bird or birb

  • @stormthyloach
    @stormthyloach 2 роки тому +7

    Will this video talk about 4-legged people not like centaurs like a spider?

  • @animalroleplayer8547
    @animalroleplayer8547 2 роки тому +3

    Hey for your next video can you do how to draw hair I struggle so hard on how to draw hair many short hair on guys and girls and so far the videos that I have watched have helped a lot

  • @milenartmeire2588
    @milenartmeire2588 2 роки тому +10

    This helped a whole lot! I had this man-bird hibrid character for some years now and I always struggled a lot on how to make his legs, because I just didn't know how to apply bird legs to a person

  • @KiraTheFoolOfTheFools
    @KiraTheFoolOfTheFools 2 роки тому +1

    i have a character that can partially (and fully, if they concentrate enough) transform into almost any pre-historyc animal (mostly dinosaurs) so i need to *really* pay attention to the legs
    and wings
    and horns
    and tails, many times
    but i like dinosaurs, so this is fine

  • @kennyIstired.
    @kennyIstired. 2 роки тому +12

    aa thank you! You're a life saver, I'm never able to get the hang of drawing hind legs and your wings tutorial helped me so much too! ❤️

  • @aBeerFromHere7994
    @aBeerFromHere7994 Рік тому +1

    I would say that a dog would put their heels on the ground like humans. Cats and bears is an example for this when switching from 4 to 2 legs. Kangaroos would be like a middle ground. Then they could walk more stable and shift away the weight on their toes. Birds are a different part because they already walk on 2 legs.

  • @jacksonArson
    @jacksonArson Рік тому +1

    this really helped, considering my character is half deer i never really knew how to draw animal feet and legs, but this video helped alot

    • @wingedcanvas
      @wingedcanvas  Рік тому +1

      Glad to hear this video helped you! Let us know if there's any other content you'd like to see.

  • @martlettoo
    @martlettoo Рік тому +1

    The problem with bird feet on humans is that everyone always tries to do either perching bird feet or raptor feet, neither of which are made for walking. They will ALWAYS look awkward no matter how you shift the joints around, because the feet are fundamentally NOT made for walking. People need to understand that there are many kinds of bird feet; they are just as diverse as mammals, they just don't get credit for it because people tend think bird=bird, and mammal=deer, humans, cats, dogs, hippos, possums, mammoths etc etc. This lack of understanding of bird diversity tends to show. There are many birds whose feet ARE made for walking and running that are good inspiration.

  • @Shovel________________
    @Shovel________________ Рік тому

    something i really like doing with avian legs is just exaggerating the joints in the heels a bunch. it makes them look a little daintier and its just kinda fun to do

  • @Naro_Rivers
    @Naro_Rivers Рік тому

    “All of these rules, you can keep them at your own discretion.”
    And thus is really the essence of appealing design: knowing the rules is important, but knowing when to break them and doing so with purpose is even more so.

  • @themothergoblin
    @themothergoblin Рік тому

    THANK U!!! i have a siren character that is half bird and i have been struggling with how to draw her legs this helps immensely

  • @MMetamorphose
    @MMetamorphose Рік тому

    This has been SUPER helpful, thank you! And thank you 10x more for using birds as your sample because I've been trying to find refs. for putting bird anatomy on humans and this has been so far the best I found!

  • @MrDuckDrawz
    @MrDuckDrawz Рік тому

    this is EXTREMELY helpful thank you so much

  • @SteamPoweredClown
    @SteamPoweredClown 2 роки тому +3

    I do take stylistic liberties, but I'm also coming up with an entire alternate evolution of vertebrates to justify humans having wings and arms, + dragons existing sooooo

  • @ShinGallon
    @ShinGallon 2 роки тому +1

    I didn't draw digitigrade legs until I started playing a Tabaxi in D&D and then started making a comic about her. They're super tricky to do some poses with (like laying down) but I've gotten better with practice. I draw kobolds with digitigrade legs as well (the other main character being a kobold) and now I'm not sure I could go back to "human legs with paws at the end" style legs on anthro characters if I tried.

  • @gryzziarth8288
    @gryzziarth8288 Рік тому

    I love how informational this is! I don't draw nor have I been watching any drawing videos so colour me surprised seeing this on my feed. Now I wanna try drawing...Specifically Drawing atomically correct Anthropomorphic Creatures.

  • @imafireingmylasar
    @imafireingmylasar 2 роки тому +1

    Nice video, it was fun. However 3:25 is incorrect. Bird bones while hollow the actual bone part is actually denser then many other animal bones and come out weighing more in animals of similar sizes.
    The hollowness of their bones is related to flight but it's actually for dealing with thin air at high altitudes if I recall correctly.Acting as extra lungs basically.

  • @-peachtree-7064
    @-peachtree-7064 Рік тому

    I learned so much more from her channel then I do in science class, and almost any art class I’ve ever taken.

  • @nyandoge987
    @nyandoge987 Рік тому +1

    Another big thing to note is balance. A thing i usually struggle while drawing animal legs on people is that it looks like their leaning forward or backward and like their about to fall. i like to make a part of the leg like the thigh or heel lean forward or backward a bit to account for the rest of the leg. I also draw a line running down the entire character to make sure their balanced. I hope that makes sense im kinda just running my mouth here but i feel like it couldve been something to share

  • @RedFox.Studios
    @RedFox.Studios Рік тому

    This was a very helpful tutorial, but I’m still having trouble drawing hooves and learning the anatomy. Can you do a tutorial branching from this one that explains the basics of hooves and paw pad proportions? And also one about how to add extra limbs to a anatomy, like extra arms on the body or legs?
    Also, I love your tutorials! They explain a lot of the anatomy and proportions for what you are drawing/going off of.

  • @EvelynNdenial
    @EvelynNdenial Рік тому +1

    along the lines of what others have said of cats i imagine a species developing bipedalism off digitigrade legs would rest on the heels like how humans walk and stand and pushing up onto the toes when moving more than a few steps for the extra spring and dexterity. its what digitigrade animals do when back on two legs its what kangaroos do and its what we humans even do when making quick movements side to side.

  • @crazygalemt
    @crazygalemt Рік тому

    Those kinds of legs are mainly good on bird like creatures and certain types of mechs. As that type of leg design allows mechs to handl more types of terrain. As well as having some kind of stomp or kick attack that hits hard

  • @jotanart
    @jotanart 2 роки тому +7

    Very usefull video!
    And a fun fact that i discovered recently: Rabbit legs actually have the same quantity of joints of a human leg!
    (Before i discovered this, i thought that rabbits had the same quantity of joints of a cat leg lol).

  • @Orca8484
    @Orca8484 Рік тому

    THIS MAKES SO MUCH SENSE!!! i just discovered ur channel and ur art is amazing :0 beautiful :]

  • @animegod6824
    @animegod6824 2 роки тому

    Man I love this channel! 😌 the channel is making me better!

  • @TheJadeWolfe
    @TheJadeWolfe Рік тому

    I've been able to make legs on an animal well, just not animal legs on a human great. This helped a lot!

  • @That1VideoGamer
    @That1VideoGamer 2 роки тому +1

    AAAAA I NEED THIS TO PREMIERE

  • @jaydenrichardson7243
    @jaydenrichardson7243 2 роки тому

    For someone who picked art to study in year 10 this is VERY helpfull and i dont think my teacher would even teach us this.

  • @-DumpsterFire
    @-DumpsterFire 2 роки тому +4

    my mom gave me a good tip on how the size is for the feet on the character specifically humans. the length of the foot should be the same length of the forearm. that's how it is irl

    • @mimthyss
      @mimthyss 2 роки тому +1

      Yes, that's generally true! That works for normal human anatomy, though I think what she's getting at in the video is that because you're changing the legs from plantigrade to digitigrade you'd be changing the way weight is distributed. Because gravity, of course, you need strong leg muscles and planted feet to support the human body being vertical - digitigrades are usually quadruped, and spread their weight more horizontally. So especially with bird legs on a human that aren't muscular, you can give them bigger feet to help distribute the weight. Some broiler chickens are an example of how too much body weight on little legs and feet, with fragile bones, just doesn't work.
      Whoops, went off on a tangent a bit there lol. TLDR: yep that's a great tip for human anatomy, but for humanoids with animal legs it's ok to play with the proportions a bit!

    • @-DumpsterFire
      @-DumpsterFire 2 роки тому +1

      @@mimthyss yup. also thanks for the tl;dr. I have the attention span of a flea

    • @mfThump
      @mfThump 2 роки тому +1

      (on humans) thats also equal to the height of the head :)

    • @kevingriffith6011
      @kevingriffith6011 2 роки тому +2

      "Pff... no it's not.."
      Presses foot against forearm.
      "Son of a bitch."

    • @SoggycereaI
      @SoggycereaI 2 роки тому

      that is super weird, my feet are wayy smaller than my forearm. And going off of the comment above me, my head is in between my feet and forearms, damn

  • @VlaideOtre
    @VlaideOtre Рік тому +1

    Its almost surprising to see how many people don't realize the "backwards knee" is just the ankle. Perfect example why you should always study a creatures basic anatomy/bone structure before drawing them.

  • @dragoncatsketch8195
    @dragoncatsketch8195 2 роки тому +1

    The first example you showed with the straight legs, I feel like it can be cute sometimes when your just making a little animation or something for a meme.
    Don’t you dare keep it in my presence for more than 162.9 seconds, though.

  • @catbatrat1760
    @catbatrat1760 2 роки тому +1

    Something I've been wondering for a really, really long time: What do you do with shoes on paws, hooves, etc.? Do you think they'd look different if they're not made for human feet? How would you draw that?

  • @Gigastro
    @Gigastro 2 роки тому

    These kinds of videos are very valuable resource for all of us. Thanks a bunch! Truly fantastic work.

  • @jaylinnell5251
    @jaylinnell5251 Рік тому +1

    My character is a human, but he can change forms into a Utahraptor-like animal, as well as an anthropomorphized/humanoid version of the same animal. This has almost certainly helped me with the design of the humanoid version, as I've already made a Raptor drawing before. I'll be saving this video to "Watch Later" as a bookmark, of sorts.

  • @mell2837
    @mell2837 2 роки тому

    Needed this to confirm. Thanks.

  • @mojyoqueen350
    @mojyoqueen350 Рік тому

    I was drawing a tiefling. I had no idea what it is, but I got a small guide from person who requested it - human legs with hoves. What I did was draw a normal human leg and make her hove-feet like those shoes with heels but without a heels. It makes sense for the character, because she was a perfomer actress, so she had to look very feminine and I couldn't just put heels on her hoves, so I turned the hoves into heels. And of course they were slightly bigger than normal feet. It looked amazing in the end.

  • @DitieBun
    @DitieBun Рік тому +1

    personally I think the first two just depend on what artstyle you're going for, while they're not anatomically accurate they're fine if you're going for a cartoony or chibi style (as long as you don't make the front limbs bend forwards like the back limbs do)

  • @just_ayush9479
    @just_ayush9479 2 роки тому

    Really nice job. I did so stuff with MIDI/DAW/soft banks wayyy back in like 99/00 in college and was ok at it. I bought soft soft last

  • @Ozymandias2x
    @Ozymandias2x Рік тому +2

    It kills me every time someone says "the character's legs bend the other direction". NO, THEY DON'T, THOSE ARE THEIR ANKLES.

  • @squidgamegirl9573
    @squidgamegirl9573 2 роки тому

    Fun fact: in my language (which is welsh) corgi is tiny dog cor is tiny dog is gi although sometimes it’s ci
    Also penguin is welsh for white head pen is head guin is white

  • @faxthefox
    @faxthefox 2 роки тому

    I was drawing these kind of legs in art class once for a character I had, it's fun drawing it like digitigrade. I wish my art class actually taught something though

  • @Complexicon_of_a_Startist
    @Complexicon_of_a_Startist 2 роки тому +1

    2:07 Me who can walk on tip-toe very comfortably and without struggle: _Maybe I am a digitigrade_

  • @cosmeticincantations7997
    @cosmeticincantations7997 2 роки тому +1

    I usually don't worry about legs. I know I should practice with the whole body if I want it good but I only draw the head of my character and have it protrude out of random things to it's not floating

  • @gudamgirexia1000
    @gudamgirexia1000 Рік тому

    Thanks for drawing bird feet. Now I can work on my anthropomorphic bird character but better now.
    Literally all I needed

  • @space_mushroom6842
    @space_mushroom6842 2 роки тому +2

    Question: how would you draw the different legs from the front? I just don’t get it😅

  • @kittygirlnya
    @kittygirlnya 2 роки тому

    I'm so glad I randomly found you on my home page!

  • @hlivaralexa441
    @hlivaralexa441 2 роки тому

    These are extremely helpful videos, thanks!