Best Motorcycle Riding Jeans of 2022

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  • Опубліковано 16 жов 2024

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  • @RevZilla
    @RevZilla  2 роки тому +2

    Prefer your lists in text form? Check out our Gear Guide article on Common Tread! rvz.la/3IWZ0Hk
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  • @vintagerealityvr
    @vintagerealityvr 2 роки тому +281

    pleassseeee show the insides - these jeans are 100% dependant on the inside comfort - signed, same guy who requested this last year

    • @Blottski
      @Blottski 2 роки тому +10

      Agreed. PREACH.

    • @mistahozzy
      @mistahozzy Рік тому +1

      Just buy them all on a card and return the ones you don’t like

    • @vintagerealityvr
      @vintagerealityvr Рік тому +8

      @@mistahozzy or you know, when they produce this video they can spend an extra 30 seconds on each pair of pants to show the insides instead of making the customer deal with that hassle as well as RevZilla losing money for the time they have to take the returns and restock etc

    • @samyb2834
      @samyb2834 Рік тому +2

      Agree. This video is useless. Gives me 0 idea how well they will perform during a crash/slide.

  • @VirtuosicSimplicity
    @VirtuosicSimplicity 2 роки тому +39

    00:25 That moment when you realize you’re hauling too fast into a curve.

  • @Alex__palumbo
    @Alex__palumbo 2 роки тому +18

    Thank you for including female rider options!!

  • @riderramblings
    @riderramblings 2 роки тому +18

    Motorcycle Jeans with amour and Kevlar lining used to be under $75 only 5 or 6 years ago. I'm certain that the cost of materials hasn't doubled or tripled since then. Are we motorcyclist being "taken for a ride"?

  • @jeffreyarvik5936
    @jeffreyarvik5936 2 роки тому +33

    It's awesome that RevZilla has Jen on the team. It's in all motorcyclists' best interest to have maximum interest in the sport throughout the population - male and female. I really enjoy reading her articles, and I'm sure the female audience appreciates having a woman's perspective with respect to women's riding gear.

    • @raymondjames57
      @raymondjames57 2 роки тому +1

      Literally never notice this stuff.
      You must really feel like your protecting people by being hyper sensitive to this.
      Cool thing is, now you have me Not paying attention to motorcycling, and instead viewing this via genitals.... great.....

  • @kostasgt500
    @kostasgt500 2 роки тому +11

    I have 2 pairs of the Oakland jeans. Best bang for buck. Very stretchy, good protection, but get ready to sweat... A LOT!

  • @sereneturmoil
    @sereneturmoil 2 роки тому +5

    The PMJ Deux Jeans HAVE to be top of list for any guy looking for a truly skinny fit with casual looks in a single layer, AAA rated riding jean with included, adjustable armour. At around $270 CDN I bought two pair for less than one pair of two layer Rokkertech. Oh, and every pair comes with a hand made Italian leather belt.

  • @Inline3speedy
    @Inline3speedy 2 роки тому +6

    RST kevlar pro tech jeans have been my best one. Around 200$. AAA level of abrasion protection. comes with level 2 hip and knee armor. Seems superior to the jeans in the video....

  • @wowIloveusernames
    @wowIloveusernames 2 роки тому +3

    Wow this was great timing for me! Thanks for the info you two.

  • @hammerheadcycle3097
    @hammerheadcycle3097 2 роки тому +2

    I have the Street and Steel jeans. They're well made and are so comfortable.

  • @A_Dirrty_Bird
    @A_Dirrty_Bird 2 роки тому +2

    Have a pair of the Oaklands will try to pick up another at some point. Also bought some seesmart armor to replace the bulkier pads they came with for this season. I usually used them without armor previously

  • @Sabahes_ASMR
    @Sabahes_ASMR 2 роки тому +8

    So my only question is, can I wear these to work, then complete a full work shift of manual labor in them? Or am I going to regret wearing riding jeans to work?

    • @King0fgames_
      @King0fgames_ 2 роки тому +1

      My scorpion exo ones have been my daily jeans for months, they've been great. The knee pad armor with them make kneeling muxh more comfortable.

    • @DefZen343
      @DefZen343 2 роки тому

      staining or tearing 100+ dollar jeans at work is gonna sting 😭😭😭

    • @King0fgames_
      @King0fgames_ 2 роки тому +1

      @@DefZen343 They're kevlar, shouldn't rip lol

    • @DefZen343
      @DefZen343 2 роки тому

      @@King0fgames_just the inside liner or a small percentage of the pants lol 😆 and sharp sheet metal or nails dont care about kevlar, its gonna get damaged even if it doesnt go all the way through 😂

    • @King0fgames_
      @King0fgames_ 2 роки тому

      @@DefZen343 The ones I have are a kevlar weave for the entire pant, it's not just a liner. And if they're fine against a razor blade slicing them, they should do fine against sheet metal

  • @numidian5191
    @numidian5191 Рік тому +1

    I returned the Street & Steel Oakland Jeans because there was no way to add hip armor. What's the point if you can't add hip armor, the place where you are going to slide on, and a broken hip is the worse.

  • @Kaisolostudio
    @Kaisolostudio 2 роки тому +4

    6:29 is a good example of the issues I’ve been having with riding jeans, look at where the knee armor is on the model, it’s on his shins! Manufacturers don’t make them adjustable enough, a fatal flaw… 😒

    • @sereneturmoil
      @sereneturmoil 2 роки тому +1

      I agree with you that there needs to be better adjustability built into the armour of riding gear. However, to see the knee armour below the knee while the wearer is standing is fine because when the legs are bent into the riding position the armour will likely be right where it's needed; at least that's my experience with every pair of riding pants I've owned and worn. But finding the sweet spot for that to happen can certainly be a tedious task when repeatedly taking the pants off and putting them on again to check the armour position.

  • @movingforward6099
    @movingforward6099 2 роки тому +4

    We need some choices for Dad jeans, why is everything slim?

  • @MCarmer21
    @MCarmer21 2 роки тому +1

    Prefer icon field armor under some decent jeans. Not as protective but super comfortable.

  • @wallacebrosphotography4409
    @wallacebrosphotography4409 2 роки тому +1

    Was literally searching for this an hour ago

  • @AA-ou7xu
    @AA-ou7xu 2 роки тому +2

    Doe’s anyone know what are those boots male rider wears? Thanks

  • @retiredbiker
    @retiredbiker 2 роки тому +1

    How about a hot weather category? Those of us in the hotter climates are suffering.

  • @engchoontan8483
    @engchoontan8483 Рік тому

    RokkerRokkerTech material, designer style jeans, at fashion-boutique oops price point... got to get that into mens cuts

  • @justinsane7128
    @justinsane7128 2 роки тому +6

    It's 2022 where are the crotchless motorcycle jeans?

  • @pathazeltine4753
    @pathazeltine4753 2 роки тому

    Can we get a video on plus size women's gear. I am 1 size outside of regular sizes and I am having a very hard time finding gear that actually keeps me safe.

  • @urbanstrencan
    @urbanstrencan 2 роки тому +3

    Great picks but you missed the best ones by Trilobite® motorcycle from Czech, their Parado jeans are just awesome.

  • @drjones694
    @drjones694 2 роки тому

    I did a review on 2 pairs of these types of jeans and some advice give you all are a bigger outlet
    Show the inside of the jeans to show they protect front back hip to knee
    FYI to buyers
    Price does NOT determine more material protection my most expensive pair purchased did not have nearly as much protection as a pair $50-100 cheaper

    • @RevZilla
      @RevZilla  2 роки тому +2

      We do show the insides of the jeans in the detailed breakdown videos of these products on their own. This is just an overview of awesome options in each category. If you are interested in further information, feel free to check out those videos. Ride safe

    • @drjones694
      @drjones694 2 роки тому

      @@RevZilla perfect thanks for explaining that

  • @steveaga4683
    @steveaga4683 2 роки тому

    Great review, but be aware that the "keep it on 2" fingers at the end of the video is the equivalent of the middle finger in the UK.

  • @ZildjianMan30
    @ZildjianMan30 2 роки тому

    Also, check out Saint line of pants. They specialize in full Dyneema-made riding pants. Usually around the same price as the Pando brand - $300 to $400. But, Dyneema is a pretty special thread!

    • @Hansengineering
      @Hansengineering 2 роки тому

      Dyneema is just branded UHMWPE.

    • @ZildjianMan30
      @ZildjianMan30 2 роки тому

      @Eric Hansen I don't care. I call it Dyneema. Does anyone say, "hand me the petroleum jelly, please." Nope.

    • @Hansengineering
      @Hansengineering 2 роки тому

      @@ZildjianMan30 right. The product they're talking about HAS dyneema in it. Also it isn't possible to make fabric out of JUST dyneema, as it is so slippery the seams would fray in days of use.

  • @muratismailzeren
    @muratismailzeren Рік тому

    I have 5 riderdenim jeans made in turkiye..Sastec knee hip protection and covered Aramid hakanit .Price is 90 $.Why I pay more money for others?

  • @non-wx8qm
    @non-wx8qm 2 роки тому +1

    Where did Brandon get the shirt. That's the only shirt he wears.

  • @JasKro
    @JasKro 2 роки тому +3

    As someone who has to wear a belt with my jeans I can’t express my disappointment enough in the lack of critical belt loops in the back of the jeans. Please, Please Please (manufacturer’s) add 2 more belt loops to keep my waist band from slipping below my belt. That’s the deciding factor for me and I won’t be buying any of these jeans. It seems that Carhartt is one of the few companies that gets this so that’s what I ride in!!!

    • @jj.1412
      @jj.1412 2 роки тому +1

      i'd just take them to a tailor/seamstress...

    • @kotu1111
      @kotu1111 2 роки тому

      like JJ said....for 20-30 bucks more ANY good tailor can add belt loops

  • @pandabike3826
    @pandabike3826 2 роки тому

    @RevZilla What pants would be best protection for electric unicycle riding? Cruising speed is 40-45mph. Mainly looking for hip and rear slide protection

  • @Spanishfutbol2010
    @Spanishfutbol2010 Рік тому

    How’s the slide protector on these?

  • @mayorofnow
    @mayorofnow 2 роки тому +1

    Disappointed there's no cargo category. The Uglybros Motorpool-K was a great pant, but they've never been long lasting, and durability has only gotten worse in recent batches.

  • @smackbikeNZ
    @smackbikeNZ 2 роки тому

    Seems strange you dont carry Resurgence jeans. Have 11 second slide protection with Pekev.

  • @luisoutumuro424
    @luisoutumuro424 2 роки тому

    Can RevZilla recommend brands and places that offer big & tall pants and gear?

    • @RevZilla
      @RevZilla  2 роки тому

      You can filter by size and tall option in our search bar on the website. There are plenty of brands offering larger "American" fits (aka relaxed fits) and tall options for both jacket and pants. If you need more help finding options, feel free to reach out to our Customer Service teams.

  • @Topher7527
    @Topher7527 2 роки тому

    The Pandas seem nice but I'm not sure about that sizing. My regular jeans are 30x30 and my riding stuff is 30x32 to maintain coverage while on the bike. The Pandas coming in at 30x34 (literally all sizes are length 34) I think would just be too long. I don't mind hemming but I feel like the armor would sit too low to be useful.

    • @impoppa9647
      @impoppa9647 2 роки тому

      Im pretty much the same size as you and have a pair of Pando Moto Jeans. I love them and the adjustable knee pockets help to have the knee armor sit perfect.

    • @sabref4i290
      @sabref4i290 2 роки тому +1

      Lol try not being g a size 30 so hard to find pants for bigger riders

  • @dantae666
    @dantae666 2 роки тому

    ce level one is crap. any recommendations for level 2 armour

  • @bombaya85
    @bombaya85 2 роки тому +2

    What about "plus/curvy" size for us fat bikers? Talking about 60+ inches waist

    • @sabref4i290
      @sabref4i290 2 роки тому +2

      Right! Bigger riders always get left out!

  • @1zanglang
    @1zanglang Рік тому +1

    Trilobite parado seem, to me, better than everything they showed in this video.
    It has adjustable position for kneepads, stretch zones, kevlar lining, zippered vents and it is available in several colors.

  • @chadillac171
    @chadillac171 2 роки тому

    I’ve been wearing lucky jeans this whole time. So far, still lucky. Although I wish I could get some real riding jeans, I cannot fathom the armor built inside. Feels too awkward in the knees when walking. Is there a jean that has the tough material without the knee padding maybe?

    • @kingdomcome1617
      @kingdomcome1617 2 роки тому +4

      Most of the knee pads in the jeans that I have seen are removable for washing.

    • @piersdenney
      @piersdenney 2 роки тому +1

      Get the D3O Ghost Armor - you wont know its there, and yes, if you come off the bike it'll save your ass.

    • @ZildjianMan30
      @ZildjianMan30 2 роки тому

      You gotta remember that no riding pants will protect you from the IMPACTS - the banging and bruising. That's why the impact armor is there. These protective jeans are for ABRASION resistance.

    • @Hansengineering
      @Hansengineering 2 роки тому

      Here's the thing; fabrics, ALL fabrics, only BARELY help at keeping your skin intact. Regular denim + kevlar lasts about 2 seconds of sliding. You NEED that armor in strategic places to minimize injury in any moderate to high speed crash. The other way to go is leather chaps which will protect covered areas in a slide, but still offer no impact protection.

    • @ZildjianMan30
      @ZildjianMan30 2 роки тому

      @Eric Hansen Dyneema will last for several seconds in a slide, and still be wearable. Racing leathers will be the best option.

  • @Zerbii
    @Zerbii 2 роки тому

    Draggin jeans best jeans.

  • @edfrench6095
    @edfrench6095 2 роки тому

    I’m old and have to use knee braces a lot of times, don’t see theses fitting over them

    • @Andrew_LaRice
      @Andrew_LaRice 2 роки тому

      I had an ACL repair that required an orthopedic brace for a season of riding and had good luck wearing mine under the Street and Steel Oakland pants. They have a slight bit of stretch that makes it work. Highly recommend them from a comfort/style front, though I luckily haven't yet had a chance to test their protection.

  • @mayorofnow
    @mayorofnow 2 роки тому +2

    Glad to see men's and women's selections, but would be a better video if you did all of one gender, and then the other. Half of these are never gonna fit me, so it would be nice if I could skip them altogether.

  • @8111blacky
    @8111blacky 2 роки тому

    Anyone know what them boots are the male is wearing?

  • @craigbannister7826
    @craigbannister7826 2 роки тому

    U should group them by protection. By what ones are garbage with no protection and ones that have protection

    • @RevZilla
      @RevZilla  2 роки тому

      This is the "best" that we've seen this year when it comes to riding jeans. So the ones w/o protection don't make the list in the first place. Thanks for watching though!

  • @TheWatcher2407
    @TheWatcher2407 2 роки тому

    where is the BOOT CUT ? That's what most wear ?

  • @sabref4i290
    @sabref4i290 2 роки тому +2

    Any jeans recommendations for people not size 38 lol

  • @brijohnx
    @brijohnx 2 роки тому +2

    No love for big and tall?

    • @sabref4i290
      @sabref4i290 2 роки тому +2

      Right!!! Always pants for people size 30 lol and now they’re even including women’s jeans which is awesome but if your a bit bigger sorry no such luck

  • @az_pit_viper4270
    @az_pit_viper4270 2 роки тому

    Go Brandon!!!

  • @frankmorris2603
    @frankmorris2603 2 роки тому

    In the words of Carl Baron, he's got 'no arse'.

  • @warning...notafraidtodie..9037
    @warning...notafraidtodie..9037 2 роки тому

    Did you ever think Brandon and Jen are wrong?

  • @NudaMan
    @NudaMan 2 роки тому

    Pando Moto and UglyBros are my 2 go to’s, best for urban riding/Look and they are comfortable… price is a little high but “you get what you pay for” and that’s quality but the ugly bros do rip in the crotch area for some people but you get a warranty on them and they will repair them for free.99 lol

  • @christiaanstrijdhorst7068
    @christiaanstrijdhorst7068 2 роки тому +1

    What about safety...!? Don't care about fashion, I want to be safe. Show the inside of the jeans please.

  • @stiffmeister0hYeah
    @stiffmeister0hYeah 2 роки тому

    So Brandon left Cycle Gear for Revzilla? Researching riding jeans and saw him on both. Don't care about look, care about comfort and how well they do in a crash

  • @yoloxxjd1
    @yoloxxjd1 2 роки тому

    I think ugly bros riding jeans are the best looking. The slim fit jeans you showed still look bulky.

  • @ozisharks2443
    @ozisharks2443 2 роки тому

    Where's Remi?

  • @monkeyCmonkeyDoo
    @monkeyCmonkeyDoo 2 роки тому +1

    Too bad you didn't review a jean marketed towards someone other than hipsters that wear lace up shoes. I haven't found a riding jean that fits over a real riding boot.

    • @patrickmchugh8039
      @patrickmchugh8039 2 роки тому

      What is your definition of a real riding boot? Can probably find something for you short of a JNCO jean

    • @salvadorvega9834
      @salvadorvega9834 2 роки тому +2

      i wonder what you ride..

    • @patrickmchugh8039
      @patrickmchugh8039 2 роки тому

      @@salvadorvega9834 2016 Street Triple Rx, 1983 Honda Shadow, 2013 WR250F, 2013 YZ250F, 1970 CT70. Then our fleet of vehicles at ZLA headquarters. Hbu?

    • @salvadorvega9834
      @salvadorvega9834 2 роки тому +1

      @@patrickmchugh8039 lol i was talking to OP, the real biker. 2014 Street Triple R and a 2017 Tuono Factory.

    • @patrickmchugh8039
      @patrickmchugh8039 2 роки тому

      @@salvadorvega9834 lol it’s all good, I’m just snowed-in in the NE watching the comment section. Jealous of that Tuono 💯

  • @jjmoraljm
    @jjmoraljm 2 роки тому

    Ugly bros jeans are pretty nice

  • @rjmohammad1944
    @rjmohammad1944 2 роки тому +1

    Hi, you guys promoting items are out of stock!!

    • @patrickmchugh8039
      @patrickmchugh8039 2 роки тому

      Would you prefer we promote items that are less safe just because we have stock of them? That seems counter-productive for safety ….

    • @rjmohammad1944
      @rjmohammad1944 2 роки тому +3

      @@patrickmchugh8039 No, but the common thing for a buyer is to visit your online store and place the order based on what you have promoted, specially if the promoter is sharing a link to their online store! That's why, out of stock is something weird

    • @patrickmchugh8039
      @patrickmchugh8039 2 роки тому +1

      @@rjmohammad1944 Oh 100%, and we would be happy to sell you gear if we could get the brands to manufacture it and come to the US with their inventory. Unfortunately they haven't really healed fully since that whole global pandemic thing. Luckily, you can sign up to be notified when any out of stock item returns into inventory on our product pages. So our guide will help you decide which piece of gear is the most protective, and help your shopping experience along. Basing a Guide off of what is in stock is not how we do things around here. The gear will be in stock eventually and hopefully this gear helps that decision along. Enjoy the rest of your weekend!

    • @rjmohammad1944
      @rjmohammad1944 2 роки тому +1

      Thanks Patrick, I consider myself as a loyal customer, most of my gears were bought from Revzilla, that's why my comment is form a loyal perspective with a positive confidence of your business,, cheers

    • @patrickmchugh8039
      @patrickmchugh8039 2 роки тому

      @@rjmohammad1944 No worries, thanks for the loyalty! I started as a customer 8 years ago and been with ZLA ever since. Shame about inventory too, most people don’t see that there really is nothing we can do about it. We want things in stock to sell, but brands and factories are still on the struggle-bus. Hopefully it gets better soon though.

  • @eatsleepplayrepeat
    @eatsleepplayrepeat 2 роки тому +1

    I hate how most riding jeans fit so tight.

  • @jalhusky
    @jalhusky Місяць тому

    Motorcycle jeans should all be high rise. Low rise or mid rise jeans are so painful on a sport bike

  • @805_6HUNNIT
    @805_6HUNNIT 2 роки тому

    We’ll show you how to get the correct fit…first out the gate has the bottoms cuffed 🤦🏼‍♂️

  • @dinospumoni8860
    @dinospumoni8860 2 роки тому +1

    Duluth fire hose jeans, since no one makes riding jeans for fat guys.

  • @RyGuyTheAVGuy
    @RyGuyTheAVGuy Рік тому

    yall need to get models with some shape to them lol

  • @noobmoto
    @noobmoto 2 роки тому

    Bmw City is the best….

  • @anonymousshane1198
    @anonymousshane1198 2 роки тому

    Jean's???? kevlar Jean's you mean 😁

  • @n2daair23
    @n2daair23 2 роки тому

    The best riding jeans are found at the thrift store, and they don’t cost $130+ fukin dollars. I don’t know how these manufacturers can charge such ridiculous prices! I guess cause there’s plenty of fools to buy em,🤣

  • @gabrielkopp2036
    @gabrielkopp2036 2 роки тому +2

    130.00 for jeans???

    • @DannigBB6
      @DannigBB6 2 роки тому +8

      Much cheaper than the skin graft my friend needed after he went down at 30mph

    • @gabrielkopp2036
      @gabrielkopp2036 2 роки тому

      @@DannigBB6 all I'm saying is there are way better deals out there!!! You could cut 30.00 off the price and still make a profit

    • @salvadorvega9834
      @salvadorvega9834 2 роки тому +1

      @@gabrielkopp2036 you picked the wrong hobby

    • @gabrielkopp2036
      @gabrielkopp2036 2 роки тому

      @@salvadorvega9834 says you...I've been riding for 40 years

    • @DannigBB6
      @DannigBB6 2 роки тому +2

      @@gabrielkopp2036 I don't know, $130 seem cheap to me. My non riding jeans are double that.

  • @Moonlight-hq3gi
    @Moonlight-hq3gi 2 роки тому

    ❤️

  • @jamesskeen3392
    @jamesskeen3392 2 роки тому +4

    WRANGLERS STRETCHY FIT AT WALMART!
    GOOD STUFF! $25 ! 👍

    • @jasonjulian1
      @jasonjulian1 2 роки тому +2

      But those are just going to be mostly plain, lightweight, regular cotton with some elastic. And no pockets for armor.

    • @M00SEM0T0
      @M00SEM0T0 2 роки тому +3

      Good luck when they hit the pavement

    • @jamesskeen3392
      @jamesskeen3392 2 роки тому +1

      @@M00SEM0T0 WHEN MY BIKE HYDROPLANED I DIED 3 TIMES,
      AND DID 3 WEEKS IN A COMA,
      SO JEANS WONT HELP MUCH!
      (JUST SAYIN) 🤔🤷‍♂️😂👍

    • @SM-bk4ye
      @SM-bk4ye 2 роки тому +2

      @@jamesskeen3392 how was dying bro? Like sleeping?

    • @jamesskeen3392
      @jamesskeen3392 2 роки тому

      @@SM-bk4ye 🤔I WASN’T THERE! 😂
      IT SUCKED A’LITTLE!

  • @mujjuman
    @mujjuman 2 роки тому

    damn

  • @ooyginyardel4835
    @ooyginyardel4835 2 роки тому

    All these jeans are very impractical as you can’t really use the pockets.

    • @RevZilla
      @RevZilla  2 роки тому

      Pockets are 100% usable.

    • @ooyginyardel4835
      @ooyginyardel4835 2 роки тому

      @@RevZilla: Yeah, for pocket change. Not for a cell phone or even a fat wallet, especially when you’re in a crouch. I can’t even put my BMW fob with house keys attached to it in my front pockets when riding with jeans. Everything has to go in the jacket pockets. That’s why cargo style riding pants with various leg pockets rule the day, especially for touring. So again again I say to you; jeans are very impractical as you can’t really use the pockets.

  • @jonathanfrancisco6910
    @jonathanfrancisco6910 2 роки тому

    Simple suggestion. Make a video for men, and a video for women so I dont have to fast forward every minute or so

  • @Juicetheeunuch
    @Juicetheeunuch 2 роки тому

    I miss Anthony. This music is awful, too.

  • @danmancino22
    @danmancino22 2 роки тому +4

    Chivalry is dead and feminism killed it 🤷🏼‍♂️

  • @danieledwards7178
    @danieledwards7178 2 роки тому

    All Garbage .... everyone will have a hole worn through 3 seconds after you start slidding ....

  • @porschetech72901
    @porschetech72901 2 роки тому

    yer kidding? walmart sells $25 jeans that work just fine for us normal folks who arent stoopid

    • @dank9288639
      @dank9288639 2 роки тому

      you are stoopid if you think regular jeans are gonna hold up in a fall/slide

    • @kostasgt500
      @kostasgt500 2 роки тому +2

      @@dank9288639 why ruin the surprise.. Let him find out 🤣🤣

    • @dank9288639
      @dank9288639 2 роки тому +2

      @@kostasgt500 hahaha no kiddin