RustDesk - The Self Hosted Open Source Team Viewer Alternative
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- Опубліковано 20 жов 2024
- A brief demonstration of RustDesk the Free Open Source Self Hosted remote desktop application written in Rust.
Try it for yourself
rustdesk.com/
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Finally, FOSS Scamming.
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I just want FOSS ransomware to install on linux. There just isn't enough.
GNU/Scamming
agreed! I appreciate ethical scamming!
FOSS = Free Open Source Scamming.
This is super neat, personally Teamviewer being corprate scum was the best thing that happened to me. I switched from their closed source trash to X2Go, which lead me to just using SSH, X11 Forwarding and SFTP. I dont see a use for me anymore but I love how TV's greed became their undoing.
When teamviewer decided to call me a corporate user for helping my family out once a month, I went to Anydesk
I've just continued using them with no problems for many years.
@@Ultrajamz That's odd. My pirate bay version of team viewer never asked me that.
@@LSK2K cuz it has a malware embedded in it
Wonder if they'll try calling Linus again.
I used to use Teamviewer free a few years ago. They banned me for 'commercial use' and fobbed me off when I asked for support since I didn't pay. I don't really have much need for remote desktop this looks pretty good.
Yeah those cvnts did the same to me. Insisted that I'm using it commercially when I was not. Well, they can go to hell. Not using their shit-arse products anymore. Hello RustDesk, my new baby!
It's FOSS, so tech support scammers can finally go after Arch users.
For what, their manjaro shop gift cards?
@@ouiVEVO it's a joke
@@TadanoHitohito (yes I know)
hollywood goes brrr
@@ouiVEVO nobody is that dumb.
The dude only sold me premium torrent privilege escalation, it's 100% opensource and PHOSPHOR free.
for $99.99/week
As an Indian, I can confirm we use this tool to take control over PCs.
well played, sir
Why did you redeem
I spat my coffee
Good morning sirs
These scammers are disgrace. Giving a bad name to all Indians. Non-existent cyber policing in India does not help either.
This is way better than TeamViewer because of licensing.
However in my experience: For whatever reason MANY non-tech people I know are very against installing software they fully don't understand, especially non-company ones.
Its a shame that their go to right now are proprietary stuff such as Chrome Remote Desktop
But for those who do listen to those who push open source, this is great.
"However in my experience: For whatever reason MANY non-tech people I know are very against installing software" could have stopped there hahaha, they'll install random crap from the internet, but as soon as I suggest something, they're suddenly a detective
@@ekksoku Truth
Marketing has done their job well you see. Only buy things you know anything unknown is bad familiar is good
Alot of non-tech people choose software like clothing. The more well known the developer is, the more likely they are gonna use it.
the more likely situation is that you, the tech man, help people and make them install a non-shitty software for this. people usually get TOLD to install remote desktop programs
me watching this with great interest as if I will ever need this knowledge
I'm*
Same
I've been using it for roughly 3 months, no problems so far!
I used teamviewer for a while for remote access to my own machine, which they claim is a feature supported by their free license. What they don’t tell you is that they can arbitrarily claim to detect “commercial use” on your account and lock you out. And then of course, I was left with no way to access my machine.
Thank you, teamviewer.
While I don't use TV anymore, it happened to me in the past and there was an option to contact support if I believe it was a mistake, and they unblocked my account after a couple days.
i would frequently get blocked as commercial use when connecting to my HTPC on the other side of the wall. i send them a vid or me walking from my room to the living room and how i was trying to connect to it. i said, if you can get it together, ill stopped recommending them. its been years, and haven't had TV installed on anything. now im dealing with realVNC and their money grabbing.
This is a good open source software overall, but I think you forgot to mention that the server side app used to be not free until recently, and their official relay servers are now being run by a Chinese commercial company located in Beijing. That means, according to the Chinese network security law, any data on those servers can be sent to Chinese government at any time if required. So basically it is always necessary to self-host a relay server if you care about security and privacy.
wow... just ... wow! if true, thats a game changer..... so that means the chinese ccp could have access to thousands of screens AND record it... not just for view in real time, they can actually keep it in their database all data concerning passwords, system info, and other info... if its possible to gather data on people, the chinese will do it for sure....
basically its a must, to be self hosted if you have sensitive info within the sessions... right?
as a regular user, not an expert by any means... is there any way to send the session data encrypted through their server? i guess not, since its live transmission... so stupid question, but had to ask... any chance it could be a feature in the future?
Damn, that's a pretty important thing to forget to mention...
Source? Couldn't find anything online but if true it would make the software an insane privacy issue
@@nunomaltez804 I am not sure about the detail of encryption, but at least it's safe to say that as a relay server it could always get the basic metadata such as your IP address and session token, which could be a serious concern. Besides it's impossible to tell if their relay servers are actually running the open-source version of app, but the fact is they used to be proprietary until recently.
1:25 Ah, yes, teamviewer, I was still a student back then, we were in a middle of an international festival of comics and games - I had to modify some files from my personal PC and publish new build because on android we had some issues. My account was banned immediately because I connected from my uni wifi network without commercial licence. I've written to teamviever support, they unlocked my account but after 2-3 weeks - we didn't fixed android build and we had pretty bad time during presentation. Thank you teamviewer for your "immediate" support :)
When covid hit I was working at a local IT shop, so I had to remote into dozens of machines and we never bought a commercial license. My entire day was praying I could fix their problem in under 15-20mins before teamviewer disconnected.
My primary use case is for providing remote support to 95% windows clients, though I usually work from linux. There are some issues preventing me from switching fully. Firstly, there is no "quick support" type client, only the fully featured, fully capable one, and at ~35mb it's comparatively large. You can put a key on your own server, however anyone with the client and the key can then use that client however they like via your relay. So for example, if you put the client preloaded with the key on your website, anyone could download that and then use your bandwidth to use the client for whatever other unrelated purpose. I've had some weird cases of clients being unable to connect that I was literally just connected to as well. Lastly rustdesk doesn't currently do as well as some of the commercial alternatives when it comes to controlling privileged windows and UAC.
It also lacks roles and organisational features that you may want when you are talking about managing larger numbers of systems. Functionality wise it's certainly not better than teamviewer and friends as you claimed. But I could see it becoming better quickly, it's not very old.
But anyway, I'm really hoping these things get sorted out, the performance is nice, and I've always been very skeptical of commercial solutions security. I'm looking forward to switching when I can.
Btw there is a way of embedding the key in the filename. It would also be quite trivial to compile your key into the binary.
for me, the biggest problem is, there is no quick connect solution (not having a light client is not really a problem for me at the moment). I've tried to ask for that a couple time, but their discord community is not really great. "Just ask the person to give you the pass word on the scree" I guess they never worked support. So, unfortunately, it gets buried fast, and the actual devs never see the suggestion. The second things is that there is no plugability (yet) with any SSO or a way to secure access to the relay server.
Finally I can scam without having to worry about being spied on
@Noneof Business not that i know of but u never know what could be hiding in closed source software
I’ve been using Teamviewer for the past few years just to be able to access my desktop from my phone or laptop remotely, and its been pretty useful. I haven’t had any of the hiccups regarding personal or commercial use yet, but knowing that there is a better, open-source alternative is making me reconsider anyway.
It is definitely a super slow experience when not connected to the same network, but for a open source and free service it's awesome. Going to spin up a micro server and set it up to see if it runs better.
Free relays are inevitably going to be under-provisioned and slow, especially as more users discover it. It's quite snappy from my self hosted relay that lives at my primary work location. (obviously connecting to random clients over the internet)
Thank you Mr Outlaw. I'll never pay TeamViewer again. Not because of their high prices, but because of their unfair billing. You see, when you're a customer and want to cancel your yearly subscription, you have to let them know more than a month in advance. You can't do it through their webpage like on any other online service. You have to go through their support department, which is coincidentally slow for any cancellation. Anyway, if you decline their charge on your credit card, a couple of months later, you'll be contacted by a collections agency who claim that you owe TV a service that you never received and that notified them to cancel before the renewal date.
TLDR: TV makes it a hassle to cancel when you're already a paying customer.
Love the windows xp theme on your linux desktop lol.
I was forced into TV a few years ago. I bought a lifetime license and then they went to subscription. I ran my business on it at the time. I have been waiting two years for TV to get their payback. Now its here.
I have tested Rustdesk intensely and setup the server portion and wrote up the systemd service file to run it. It does a good job. People complaining about wayland support are just premature on that. In time if wayland is that good it will be added in.
Now, If you want to get really serious about Remote Management then Meshcentral is where you should be. Reverse proxy it and its pure gold.
I’ve used Teamviewer for over 5 years to provide “tech support” to my grandmother, and to allow remote access to my “battle station” when I’m out of town. I will gladly look into any alternative!
Cool, thanks! :) I recently had my TeamViewer account marked as "commercial user", telling me that my sessions would be cut after 5 minutes, but in reality they cut them at the 1 minute mark. And after a few days of beying annoyed, I tried to find them and found the page where you can request your "commercial user" account to be reviewed and reset to non-commercial after you give them out a lot of personal details and your handwritten signature.
I gave them no private info, and I drew up a nice middle finger as my signature, and explained the situation, requesting to fix the issue. Amazingly, although it took them a few weeks, just days ago they fixed my issue. Now I also have to check it, but I didn't before seeing this video. I hope RustDesk server works on a Raspberry Pi. :D That would be awesome!
I started using RustDesk a few months ago and it’s the smoothest transition I’ve ever experienced
Thanks to rust lang mad lads we are going to get open source alternatives to everything and they will prove the value of rust.
I am india techsupport. This program is very useful thank you friends!
does my computer has virus?
@@Anonymous4045 look for the IP addresses of the hackers
@@Anonymous4045 now let me process your refund
@@Anonymous4045 herro your computerr has virus
Bitch! Do not redeem!
I've been looking for a teamviewer esque alternative that was open! I installed this in a heartbeat; it's also good it's on windows cause now I can tell my friends that are on windows to install it as well so I can still work on their PCs without all the teamviewer scumminess.
I just wanna say you were pivotal in getting me to make a complete switch to Linux Desktop, Linux Laptop, and Linux Server. Never going back.
For the normies out there just trying to help Grandma: "Quick Assist", a host and client VNC program, is installed on Windows systems by default. It's easy to use (for you and them) and it removes the step of them having to go out and install whatever it is for you would otherwise need to connect.
it just shows a blank white window and does fuck all
@@Napert mine show this BS : "TrY aGaIn LAtER" without a single fucking way to refresh it.
@@That_One_Guy... that what happens when a company relies on interns to make their 💩
I think the people replying are forgetting their donotspy10 or similar install which is probably the reason it's broken.
@@demolicous I don't have anything like that on my system yet my QuickAssist is also broken
Now this is neat as. It's incredibly straight forward to get set up, it's painless to use, there are no accounts, and it's open source so there's no funky stuff hidden in there. I love software like this.
That kitboga clip will always make me laugh HAHAHAHAHA. Thank you for putting it.
0:53 I wonder if it's a coincidence that one of the most popular/voted packages in the aur is Team Viewer...
Mesh central works great for managing a bunch of remote computers as well, also open source and self hosted.
Dude, I came online in 1995 at 38 as an M.C.S.E. I had 22 years in I.T.. Teamviewer is excellent! I've used many different RDPs since 1995. I use Teamviewer all the time with my son who lives 2,000 miles away. We both use the free version. No setting up BS Servers. No configuration at all.
Load it! provide the generated ID and Password. Hit Enter and we connected.
I'm usually hardwired to my Gateway, and my son has Apartment provided Wi-Fi. It's smooth and unlike many RDPs, Teamviewer goes full screen with just my son's desktop displayed. No task bars in the way, which reduces a desktop's real estate. My son isn't tech savvy and it was simple for him to download install, load it and give me his Teamviewer generated ID and Password, which are right in front of his face and BOOM! I'm connected and pulling maintenance in real time with almost no lag.
Can't wait to try it. Tightvnc and ultraVNC seemed to be fine, but team viewer somehow was always simpler
Saw the title and immediately clicked, finally open-source teamviewer!!
This is kind of a weird request, but I feel like the more people who cover this, the more likely change will happen. The most popular vr social platform, VRChat, has updated to require easyanticheat. You of all people know how spooky EAC is, and the entire VRChat community is pissed about this. I feel like this topic could fit your channel well, please make a video!
From what I've seen they're pissed because mods will be banned, not for some "spooky" reasons.
@@xelario While I am also pissed about mods, (I used some) I personally feel that privacy is the greater issue. Not to mention EAC kills pc performance, and VRChat was already a terribly optimized game.
How do you even cheat in a social hangout app?
@@slate5778 I understand, just your original message made it sound like the whole community is angry mainly about privacy.
@@xelario I wish they were, most of them don't know how spooky eac is
Here, I'm one of those affected by the Teamviewer's new "feature" to detect "commercial use". I live far from my parent's home and now they're screwed when they need some help which is quite often.
Thanks for sharing this solution, I think this might be what I'm looking for.
The Kitboga reference was legendary!!
I remember managing my RS bots during breaks at school using TeamViewer... good times.
Recently though I've heard Parsec was hip among the cool kids.. who sell lava pixel capes.
A very cool remote desktop solution more gaming focused is Sunshine, which basically replaces geforce experience as the host for Moonlight, but it's cross-platform, GPLv3 and works across Nvidia and AMD
in my opinion sunshine-moonlight is better than this rustdesk, however rustdesk seems targeted towards people who cannot port forward or use VPN (sunshine-moonlight remotely requires port forward or VPN)
@@tacokoneko port forwarding for remote newbie help?
F
Lotta people dont even know what a router is.
I got this running on my unraid server tonight. I use Parsec when on a PC, but I was using TeamViewer on my phone but not anymore after your video. Thanks, man 10/10
This app is like 8 years too late, but I think it's better than never.
Highly recommend this app. Seriously
For helping family/friends, I've mainly used Quick Assist that is built into Windows, i.e. tell them click 'Start', type the letter 'Q', click 'Quick assist' and type the code from my screen. Unfortunately, it is very limited, e.g. no unattended remote access, UAC prompts lock out until the other user responds and can be laggy, sometimes even a second or two between clicking/typing and visual feedback.
I gave up on Team Viewer due to its commercial use warnings for connecting to my home PC, which was all I used it for. They deem connecting over any non home ISP as commercial use, such as connecting over mobile data, public/workplace Wi-Fi, etc. I have been using Chrome Remote Desktop since. Will definitely give RustDesk a try as it certainly looked very responsive in the video for even their public server.
It's about damn time! I've used team viewer since back when you could buy a perpetual license.
I also still use team viewer because of it's ability to connect to a headless windows client. If it has a head then we use Parsec
Was just looking into it and you video just came out on time , perfect
This is great. I was looking for something like this.
Ya know i fully expected this to require more setup and was dreading it. Definitely using this to fix my moms computer when she needs it!
I was using anydesk to help my mom when she has phone issues with her android. Last miui (Xiaomi version for android) managed to screw it, can only see her screen can't control it, so I will give this a try. Has 10k downloads on google play store btw. Thanks for sharing the info.
Wow I was waiting for this to occur, I was one of the first promoters of teamviewer in Latin America, Japan, US, UK and Canada many years ago, but they got so greedy over the years that I totally changed it for anydesk and some others, even guacamole, but this alternative is pretty new for me at least and was about time for me to discover it. TV forgot we, IT are the ones who helped them spread the word and grow back in those days. Now they had to pay the price.
Rustdesk's dev is not the smartest tool in the shed, having developed a remote tool with out of the shelf parts(which isnt bad by itself, except for the part that he ignored non-x86 compatibility) and not many care with security(for reference, when the request came up for support for ARM, he literally accepted to distribute a binary hosted in baidu without any regards for its safety)
Rust is already a cargo cult of noobness. You know whenever you name a program Rust-something, you're in a cult!
@@Bobo-ox7fj They might be soy, but at least their code doesn't leak
It's open source so you can go ahead and fix it yourself
I heavily use sunshine-moonlight as remote desktop when the connection has a lot of bandwidth, and X11VNC-TigerVNC when the connection is slow and needs to be optimized for compression. both of these protocols don't have serious security features so when security is a concern or one device is on public wifi, I use them through self hosted OpenVPN.
To me remote desktop seems like a solved problem, but I suppose that it is a valid use case to need to give remote assistance to some normie without making them connect to a custom VPN, which this Rustdesk seems capable of.
Hey Babbage, go ahead & fix it, it's FOSS
Oh wait, you can't cuz you don't know shit about coding do you
But you're going to waste time crapping on it & calling him soydev
That's a great sign of patheticness
The "great" thing about TeamViewer is that with business accounts, they charge per user, even if 90% of your employees never use it / only use it onece or twice a year. If your company has ~1000 user accounts, you can be lucky not to pay ~1 000 000€/year.
They charge per concurrent connection not per user. So if you have 5 support agents and 100 users you only need to buy for the 5 support agents. At least that is my experiance from them being a commercial customer. My job uses it pretty extensively even if I feel like we could do with out it.
I’ve been wanting to get rid of TeamViewer as I only use it for cross platform connections (ie MacOS to Windows) and it’s very bloated with background processes at least on MacOS. However, I never had an issue with it interrupting sessions it thought was commercial use as you described. I’m not sure I’ll switch though considering I heard their servers are based in China, so the CCP can take any data they want.
I literally was reading about this today and the moment I got home I saw you posted 🙂
There is a old project UDT4 used for data transfer using UDP protocol. It support randevouz connection. With little help of public relay server, both sides can exchange IP addresses and then try randevouz connection (essentially punch the hole on router). After that both sides can exchange UDP messages (UDT4 library takes care of ordering and retransmission)
Such network can be very cheap to maintain.
I saved this video on my Watch Later because I have other things to do, but I couldn't not comment this:
your thumbnails are based
I used to always use TeamViewer and I liked it a lot especially when I use it on my own local network and every once in awhile I would reach out and help somebody else with their computer. But then when I wanted to purchase it it was like hell of expensive and it really is made for the Enterprise now.
I think that I'll try this software out for the fun of it
Been playing with it for a week.. lol
I use impcremote professionally. Its small. It’s available in full access and instant. It’s $30 a year. It works everywhere.
I downloaded hbbr and hbbs. Opened some ports in aws. Worked like a charm
There is also an alternative entirely coded in PowerShell called Power Remote Desktop.
🦀+🐧=ultimate combo
TeamViewer just recently stopped working on Russia, so there's quite a market for RustDesk to expand right now.
This couldn’t have come at a better time! I guess I’m gonna be a rust now.
I am kinda used in your intro "Ooh, Boy!" now
good video, love open source alternatives. 👍
I have been using this from a week to connect to my friends pc.. It works waaay better than I thought.. Only issue is it doesn't work in Wayland.. for now..
thanks for this alternative. I used teamviwer or anydesk do help friend remotely. but this soft is verry interesting
I also look for Mesh central for accessing my own computer remotely
Interesting, I've switched to AnyDesk years ago but this looks promising!
main problem with it is that it essentially behaves like malware if you install it with a Wayland compositor installed. It will try to break your system.
In what ways?
UltraVNC has been doing the job
just tried it on my void machine installing the .deb
works like a charm
This would've been THE chance for Tauri :P But anyway, haven't heard of this thought, looks pretty nice.
I always wanted an open source Teamviewer alternative.
Sounds pretty nice.
Is there some geek whos able to write a code so the password change automaticaly after a session ends? Maybe a window that pop out after the connection closed where you can select if the password should change or stay?
Also i would love to see a video where you show how to config the server/ relay and or API service?
Good. I'll consider this as an alternative along with Remote Utilities which I'm currently using.
Used to use vnc and anydesk. This seems really good
Very neat XP theme you got there, i've been thinking about giving it a try.
And what about the other tabs especially address book. Do you have to register with rustdesk and create a login?????
Hi there, new Arch user here, I really like your Win XP theme! What are you using and what DE is it?
Frankly haven't used TeamViewer since the early 2010s or so, but man. I'd _love_
for this to just _maybe_ become a number two in the space behind AnyDesk.
Surpassing it would be great, but obviously a dream. FOSS only gets financial support
from companies when they can leech off the effort, and maybe repackage it with their own brand on it
I remember not being happy with TeamViewer for some reason. Switched to Anydesk for my home network needs and never had any problems with it.
Works fine. Thanks for the recommendation.
Wonderful, thank you for introducing me to another FOSS gem!
Still looking for a good alternative to Parsec for remoting into my Home PC for gaming.
Check your analytics. You will notice something that doesn't fit the usual pattern. There will be an unusual amount of viewers in a certain country with a very large population.
I am trying to set it up on raspberrypi and also tried on cloud it always says me relay not ready yet…..
Can you please help ?
AnyDesk > TeamViewer
Can it be used for stalking?
Like, does the host get a notification when someone connects to their desktop and just look? Just asking.
"Because playing games would be silly"
Disagree. I used TV to play simple games on local PC while being away. And then TV detected commercial activity.
I guess they want the cut from all insane profits that my rimworld colony generates.
I like to watch these videos to learn about tech more
I tried it, was easy to use. However, when connecting from dwm to client with dwm, the super key wouldn't trigger in the client machine but rather on my own machine. It worked out of the box for anydesk, but I'll give this another try.
ok, but what about the AGPL here, after all it is roughly "anything made with this tool must be open source", so it can't be used for commercial purposes that do closed source work?
Is there an offline alternative? (For Android) I use Chrome Remote Desktop, but it requires an internet connection initially.
Great application, like a consumer-grade MeshCentral!
Its really convenient to control PC from mobile altough the android app privacy mode which btw turns the monitor black that setting kinda gets stuck but otherwise really good job here
and it's even available as AppImage ... yeah baby !!!!!!
google remote desktop is also a pretty neat alternative to tv.
According to their privacy policy they collect data, but it's not clear wether that's just when using their relay server. Has anyone investigated this? I'm not sure the distributed binaries actually match the source code, so I think a packet capture would be the easiest way to confirm.
My dad was using TeamViewer between his different computers in his house, but they decided it was "commercial use", then he switched to TightVNC but its just local which is fine but the option to remote in and out out of the network is nice to have. Im gonna tell him to try this instead
Is this the best option if I just want to use my pc from another room for example with a smart phone or tablet or would you recommend something else? The less lag the better.
Boy, do I remember getting the teamviewer "commercial use" ban, so I made one of these for myself which is peer2peer only needing a host for holepunching.
I don't think having a dependency on proprietary software makes a transitive dependency relation on licensing tbh, not by me, at least
If a program uses a proprietary software, that's on the proprietary software but the open source project meets the requirements that of the GPL Licensing