The Real Reason Bowery King Hates High Table - Explained

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  • Why does the Bowery King hate the High Table
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  • @shadowbeast2276
    @shadowbeast2276 10 місяців тому +8

    He doesn't need the high table. And the high table acts like they're entitled to absolute loyalty & obedience
    "UNDER THE TABLE IS WHERE SHIT GETS DONE"

  • @Forsaken76823
    @Forsaken76823 Рік тому +122

    Long live the king.

  • @sidneystoverjr.4329
    @sidneystoverjr.4329 Рік тому +51

    I ONLY HAVE ONE Thing to say Lawrence fishburn.. he played the row.. he was outstanding..

  • @trenchtierstudios554
    @trenchtierstudios554 Рік тому +144

    The Bowery King and the High Table were in a sustained cold war for a long while. It wasn't until Santino claimed a seat at the table when the status quo changed. If Santino didn't have John go kill his sister; then the cold war would have kept on going. Santino was too power hungry and would had caused a war with the Bowery King if John didn't kill him. The war would had probably caused the High Table to eventually get involved too.
    So deep down; John was able to save a lot of headaches by taking out Santino.

    • @cecejamesable
      @cecejamesable Рік тому +32

      Santino really just set off a nuke due to his arrogance, he should have just left it alone. No wonder his sister was chosen over him.

    • @trenchtierstudios554
      @trenchtierstudios554 Рік тому +22

      @@cecejamesable He thought that if he got a seat at the table; he was untouchable. He was wrong.

    • @nickrubin9589
      @nickrubin9589 10 місяців тому +3

      ​@@trenchtierstudios554So was the Marquis Vincent Bisset de Gramont😂!!

  • @TheNightWatcher1385
    @TheNightWatcher1385 11 місяців тому +31

    I think he hates the high table because he’s a, “self-made,” crime lord (who also does some Robin Hood stuff on the side) while the high table are all about pedigree and prestige.

    • @JosephDawson1986
      @JosephDawson1986 10 місяців тому +3

      To further that Idea I think that its more than just that. Bowery King believes he deserves a seat at the High Table but the only seats belong to ancient groups of assassins, hence why the Elder is Middle Eastern as the origin of assassins, etymologically and historically, is the middle east. The members of the Table we have seen are the asian Triads and Yakuza, The South American and Latin America Cartels, the Italian Cosa Nostra and 'Ndrangheta, the Russian Bratva and the Ruska Roma aka the gypsies.
      This covers all the major sources of assiassins as well as major organised criminal elements from history. There is a whole web of connections but the comment section doesn't allow for such discourse.

  • @omnione12
    @omnione12 11 місяців тому +86

    He hates them because he got sliced up for giving John Wick a gun that he had no idea that he would use it in the continental. He is actually the only character that got punished for no reason

    • @minhducnguyen9276
      @minhducnguyen9276 10 місяців тому +17

      There has always been a potential conflict between the Bowery King and the High Table. He's a rising power. It appears he was able to build his organization from scratch. Sooner or later his power will grow enough to be on par with one of the families of the High Table, even John Wick pointed it out in the second movie that it would benefit him because Santino would eventually wage war against him. The mere fact that the High Table accepted a member who double crossed his working partner alone would be a bad precedent, but yet there is no way to punish members of the high table for such action. In the end, the rules of the High Table are just a treaty. And treaties are meaningless without the power to enforce them equally to all sides.

    • @nerdthatcantfit1079
      @nerdthatcantfit1079 10 місяців тому +2

      If I remember correctly. He gave Wick the gun to kill Sanantonio… one of the heads of the high table. It wasn’t no reason and it wasn’t bc the gun was used in the continental. It’s bc of who the gun was used on

    • @johansmallberries9874
      @johansmallberries9874 9 місяців тому +3

      He got involved while knowing the consequences of getting involved. Hell, he even says he knows why he’s being punished and accepts it.

    • @jwiese100
      @jwiese100 9 місяців тому +1

      It's the fact that they came in and thought they could remove and replace him as if what he built himself was there's and not his.

    • @user-fz2ul7wl2d
      @user-fz2ul7wl2d 2 місяці тому +1

      Agreed but the question is what happened before that.

  • @midnightkitty8172
    @midnightkitty8172 Рік тому +89

    I wanted to see that Adjudicator get killed.
    Man I hate that character; she's so smug it isn't even funny.

    • @HarleyHeartless
      @HarleyHeartless Рік тому +25

      For 😂 real when I saw John Wick 4, I was mad she didn’t get killed.

    • @Martin-yh7vi
      @Martin-yh7vi Рік тому +24

      I knew she was just doing her job but I agree that she was way too smug. She got away because of plot!

    • @OLJackson
      @OLJackson Рік тому +1

      Agreed. I hate that b!+€h too she think that she make a man step down as king and there's no such thing as a woman king

    • @turbolid
      @turbolid Рік тому +15

      Perhaps the Adjudicator appears in the Ballerina movie as the main villain. If the titular character was the daughter or the niece of the Ruska Roma's Director, she will want revenge on the Adjudicator for ordering Zero and his students to kill all the Ruska Roma members of the Director's mob and piercing the Director's hands with a sword as punishment for helping John Wick. Maybe the Ballerina is the one who will kill the Adjudicator and that will explain why in the fourth John Wick movie, the High Table handed all the powers that were from the Elder and the Adjudicator into the Marquis de Gramont because the Marquis controlled the actions of the High Table like the Elder and had the power to punish everyone linked to John Wick like deconsecrate the Osaka Continental and blowing up the NY Continental like the Adjudicator.

    • @midnightkitty8172
      @midnightkitty8172 Рік тому +2

      @@turbolid Thank you for such a detailed and well thought out reply.
      To be honest, I hadn't made those connections myself but I think you're right.
      When the High Table demolished the Continental NY, I thought that they must have planted the detonation charges prior to the events in the films; perhaps they installed the charges as they made the building in the first place?

  • @ColinBurkeMusic
    @ColinBurkeMusic Рік тому +14

    John was NOT ex communicado when he came to the Bowery king injured. Just FYI 🙃

  • @robez457
    @robez457 Рік тому +17

    Simply put. He is angry that the high table thinks they own him and everything he built. Plus he just doesn’t like authority. He seems like the type to say f#ck the police to their face

  • @GoodSoulPossible
    @GoodSoulPossible Рік тому +83

    High Table is like Hydra. You can cut one head other one will emerge. You can't kill Hydra.

    • @Bejita666
      @Bejita666 Рік тому +14

      Well you can, use a Rocket launcher

    • @sakatasun6857
      @sakatasun6857 Рік тому +6

      what if you destroy the body

    • @alexsolomon8127
      @alexsolomon8127 Рік тому +3

      @@sakatasun6857 that is in fact correct, in D&D terms. or, like in the mythology, you simple sear the stumps so you can kill ALL the heads before one regrows.

    • @jannegrey593
      @jannegrey593 Рік тому +6

      @@alexsolomon8127 Yup. That's how it was done in mythology. You need fire to cauterize the places were heads were cut off and then they won't regrow.

    • @TraciPeteyforlife
      @TraciPeteyforlife 11 місяців тому +3

      You can kill Hydra, you just need to burn the necks.

  • @SlimRhyno
    @SlimRhyno Рік тому +44

    "The Bowery King" has to be one of the most boss names of any fictional crime lord! 🤙

  • @Stuart267
    @Stuart267 Рік тому +32

    The continuation of The Bowery King's story is possibly the only spin-off I'd accept & invest money in going to see & getting a Blu Ray of. King & Winston's interactions are great & would love to see more of that in a future film, as it stands the planned spin-offs hold zero interest for me personally.

    • @plummet3860
      @plummet3860 10 місяців тому

      John isnt dead though the dog confirmed this at the end

  • @malcolmr3
    @malcolmr3 10 місяців тому +14

    She didn’t call for 17 cuts, it was SEVEN cut. One for each bullet he gave John. I haven’t seen part 4 yet, but something tells me she made a mistake by mot killing the Bowery King.

    • @snatchadams69
      @snatchadams69 10 місяців тому

      I saw it and she definitely did...

    • @shadowbeast2276
      @shadowbeast2276 8 місяців тому

      It was a huge mistake on her part

  • @kangjames6227
    @kangjames6227 Рік тому +11

    I love his character... Long Live The King...

  • @user-oh3ii5nk1s
    @user-oh3ii5nk1s 9 місяців тому +1

    I love his character... Long Live The King.... Did anyone else notice Winston calling John "son" at the end?.

  • @markcraig4036
    @markcraig4036 Рік тому +6

    Bowery King got eyes n ears everywhere.

  • @lisanguyen6324
    @lisanguyen6324 Рік тому +8

    I'm assuming the High Table wiped out the original gang the Bowery King was part of through John a long time ago, and that's why he "rose" to his current position. Probably wants revenge because the reason they were wiped out was tied to arrogance

  • @michaelsarmiento3057
    @michaelsarmiento3057 Рік тому +20

    I wonder what is the Bowery King's real name. The reason I say this was because John's ally, the Bowery King, is not his real name. It is just the title but never his real name. I want to see the origin story of the Bowery King and how he became a crime boss and an ally to John Wick.

    • @SubNo1Ze
      @SubNo1Ze Рік тому

      People pl😅😊

    • @DarrinKemp-lr1cz
      @DarrinKemp-lr1cz 10 місяців тому

      Wouldn't it be cool if his real name is Morpheus?

  • @MrGCampbell
    @MrGCampbell 9 місяців тому +4

    He hates the high table because he knows they are agents of The Matrix.

  • @barrywhite8747
    @barrywhite8747 11 місяців тому +8

    I think he sees that the high table like most organizations that have existed for a long time has become corrupted and lost sight of what its main reason for existence is and that is to maintain order and stability. Santino brought about his death by forcing John to kill his sister then backstabbing him after it was done and then tried to use the rules of the high table to keep from having to answer for what he did. If the high table still cared about maintaining order in a just and fair way then they would have given John a pass given the situation was caused by one of their members and in giving him a pass they would also be demonstrating to all the other assassins that the high table is fair in how it deals out judgment and that it's willing to make exceptions to a rule being broking if the person braking it has a ligament reason for doing so. The way the adjudicator acted and how heavy-handed she and as a representative of the high table was in dealing out punishment was uncalled for. Everyone knew why John did what he did, so it would've been understandable to everyone if the high table had made an exception to the rule and they probably would have gained more respect by doing so but they went the totally opposite direction and I hope in chapter 5 that John ether brings down the high table or becomes head of it.

    • @brothersgt.grauwolff6716
      @brothersgt.grauwolff6716 10 місяців тому

      my thoughts exactly it's my belief that in the next film it'll be civil war within the High Table between those who support John and those who just want to cling to power

    • @HarmonyEdge
      @HarmonyEdge 10 місяців тому +1

      Things just moved a little too fast for the High Table to react, a part of which was the due to the help John had from the Bowery King. Had the High table had more time to keep John away from Santino, the alternative may have been a possibility, They should know who ordered the hit on Gianna, and may have refused to accept Santino's claim to her seat as well as also declaring him excommunicado, depending on the rules of succession on both the High Table and the Camorra.

    • @barrywhite8747
      @barrywhite8747 10 місяців тому

      @@HarmonyEdge I understand your point but if the high table knew that the Bowery King helped John and about the 7 bullets which didn't happen til towards the end of the movie then there's no way the High Table didn't know from the beginning that Santino was responsible for his sister's death. They just didn't care until John killed him in the Continental which is what I'm talking about. To your point, if they cared they could have had the guy who's the heard of the Contental in Rome and a friend stop him and let him know the High Table was voiding Santino's order and that John was free and clear to go home but they didn't.

    • @c.ostriker5572
      @c.ostriker5572 9 місяців тому

      @barrywh.... WELL SAID Sir, and precisely my exact thoughts on the matter. The High Table is definitely corrupted as they likely had known Santino ordered the Hit on his own sister. Had they any honor, they would have voided the debt of Wick and excommunicated Santino for good. What Santino did was as dirty and dishonorable as it gets, and surely the High Table if it adhered sincerely to maintaining FAIRNESS and order, they would have handled this a LOT differently.
      As it stands IF there is indeed a John Wick 5, I would whole heartedly accept the premise that The Bowery King, Winston and the heads of the other Continentals have had their fill of the High Table and wage war to take them down, with a returning Wick who was never dead but simply in hiding during the interim.

    • @michaelotten2724
      @michaelotten2724 9 місяців тому +2

      The smartest thing you came up with was putting John wick @ the head of the high table. John wick whole purpose was to clean up the underworld and at least some of the corruption of the high table.

  • @jermf35
    @jermf35 Рік тому +21

    I love the king. And I hope there is a part 5. Where John faked his death and come back. And John and the king take down the table

    • @shadowhell8378
      @shadowhell8378 Рік тому +2

      It's unlikely as John just got free again if john did fake his death then there will have to be a very good reason for him to return.
      Maybe cain's daughter is taken and he asks john for help but the king's ambition isn't enough for john to return.

    • @zacwicht3189
      @zacwicht3189 Рік тому +1

      we come in somewhere we see the friends daughter when she gets attacked by a high table attack team because she is not cleared a bullet hits John Wick who is checking up on her and then he destroys the hole team in self defence and learns the attack force was the tables attack group under the regular rep they send , then John lets everyone know the table has broken their word in coming after him after promising they would not

    • @andrewchin5583
      @andrewchin5583 Рік тому +3

      And that will repeat every franchise's mistake of not burying the hatchet when they should, star wars, transformers,fast and furious, game of thrones, and if they decide to make john wick 5, well, that certainly would guarantee it's place among them, good things don't last forever, to keep it that way is to not fk with it after its done

    • @shadowhell8378
      @shadowhell8378 Рік тому +1

      @@andrewchin5583 true maybe john wick 5 could be a prequel showing John in his assassin days maybe 5 haves him meet his wife and 6 has the impossible job that freed him

    • @andrewchin5583
      @andrewchin5583 Рік тому

      @@shadowhell8378 well in that case i could see it work

  • @husainaboobaker9615
    @husainaboobaker9615 Рік тому +5

    Wish Bowery King Gets Revenge On The Adjudicator

    • @shadowbeast2276
      @shadowbeast2276 8 місяців тому

      I would have liked to see John wick "pay her a visit in the night"

  • @94462
    @94462 Рік тому +6

    Morpheus introduced Neo into the Matrix and then Neo saved Morpheus from the agents in gratitude and John Wick inducted the Bowery king in his early career and then years later the Bowery king 👑 gave 7 bullets to help John Wick take out the high table x we come around full circle ⭕️ here x

  • @brothersgt.grauwolff6716
    @brothersgt.grauwolff6716 10 місяців тому +2

    it's my belief the High Table has fallen far from it origins and the Bowery King knows that he hates what it has become a mockery of itself

  • @98nh3609
    @98nh3609 Рік тому +11

    I think another piece to siding with John, it feels like a component of it is there's a blood debt in play as well

    • @nikolai6489
      @nikolai6489 Рік тому

      It’s said years ago John let the Bowery king lived before he was the Bowery king. It’s how he got one of his scars. Plus, 7 million for 7 bullets.

    • @98nh3609
      @98nh3609 Рік тому

      @@nikolai6489 i understand that, but to me a life for a life. John spared him. In the world of John Wick i think that would play a part in it

  • @ExMachina70
    @ExMachina70 Рік тому +4

    I love watching Lawrence.

  • @meldrinrojas5216
    @meldrinrojas5216 Рік тому +3

    Much better to discuss the John Wick 0: the Beginning, the Origins of Babayaga

  • @geraldwilfong7627
    @geraldwilfong7627 10 місяців тому +1

    This is the best movie so far great

  • @EzeICE
    @EzeICE Рік тому +6

    "They gotta know, that if you cut a king, you better cut em to the quick!"

  • @centurion8446
    @centurion8446 Рік тому +1

    Reminds me of Gray Fox in Oblivion, if HT and Marquis is luxury then he seems to be the homeless themed counter force revolutionary

  • @Monty2289
    @Monty2289 10 місяців тому +1

    Saying the Bowery King is arrogant. You effectively just said the High Table didn't about it. The Bowery likely exists at the opposite end of the High Table. All of society has rules - especially in a world full of assassins but I imagine these rules don't protect the homeless, downtrodden, and feeble while is why the Bowery exists. They built an empire made of scraps.
    And well when the BK helped John he was not excummunicado and it was a perfectly fair thing for him to help John if he wanted. When the BK gave him a gun its not like he told him to go shoot someone in the Continental.
    The fact is he was being targeted unfairly. "7 cuts" just seems a bit severe for helping out a legal agent under the table

  • @goodnightis
    @goodnightis Рік тому +5

    first. the king lives on!

  • @stevenaranda5111
    @stevenaranda5111 9 місяців тому

    If you heard what the Bowery King told John he said That you could have killed me right then but you gave me a choice to hold my neck and love or to die.

  • @TheTideKing004
    @TheTideKing004 Рік тому +2

    Anyone else noticed that Lawrence says "bowlrey"

  • @user-gc5ly3tz8l
    @user-gc5ly3tz8l 9 місяців тому +1

    Lol he give John a Kimber 1911…. I’m surprised it was able to fire all seven shots without it jamming. John may have been better of throwing that beautiful POS at his adversary because it would probably do more damage than that poorly made gorgeous wall hanger.

  • @xGoodOldSmurfehx
    @xGoodOldSmurfehx 10 місяців тому +1

    In-lore reason: something
    Real reason: Its Lawrence Fishburne

  • @trojanhorsechannel
    @trojanhorsechannel 9 місяців тому +1

    The high table needs to go, it keeps being shown as an awful setup that I kept waiting for John to just destroy.

  • @philheard6489
    @philheard6489 10 місяців тому

    Note To Self,NEVER,EVER Wish to be One of John Wick’s Car at ANY POINT AND TIME.That Is All………

  • @user-cr7up7vp5p
    @user-cr7up7vp5p 11 місяців тому

    Very efficient way to use the actors relationship

  • @nurkhairizadmd.zawawi9975
    @nurkhairizadmd.zawawi9975 9 місяців тому +1

    Looks like beggar gang in chinese folklore

  • @Lyndonberg_Gaming
    @Lyndonberg_Gaming 9 місяців тому

    As in chapter four it says it’s part of the old rules that seem to supersede excomnicardo, is there one for life debts to be repaid? Thus the king was in the right to pay it by answering John’s mad request with the pistol and seven rounds as it paid his debt no matter the outcome but the elimination of Santiago with keep the understanding as the king is under or affiliated with the high table as he deals in their currency and John now owes the debt back for the life save at the end of 3 as he burnt his counters witch again seem to over rule excommunicardo with the blood debts/oaths for a hand in a task (the old rules)?
    This now has Vengence to wards the high table/the high enforcer for the unjustified 7 cuts laid to rest at the end of 4 with John wick the babayayga death but not his real life / name
    The king knowing the old rules would explain why he comes with new suit turns up at the meetings ect but as he never introduced John to the life he is not under his family so couldn’t put him forwards
    Taking my veiw
    Also this explains that after the final shot ,the final scene the king is back to being relaxed sat with winston as the high table representative that broke the rules dealing his 7cuts has been removed and understanding restored and righted vengence was carried out and debts settled
    Will there be chapter 5 and will the Baba Yaga return under his mortal name or a new?

  • @yewjiaxiansam1962
    @yewjiaxiansam1962 4 місяці тому

    I also hate the high table, curse them, thank The God that this does not exist

  • @lilbakery818
    @lilbakery818 Рік тому +3

    Are you all being sponsored by the John Wick franchise? Sweet Jesus

  • @graysonschofer2242
    @graysonschofer2242 Рік тому

    Fire video bro

  • @britainlott1602
    @britainlott1602 11 місяців тому +1

    Up coming projects? Please don’t tell me the John wick franchise won’t ruin itself like the fast and furious movies going from drag racing criminals to spaceship driving agents lmfao

    • @mingdingingmasochist
      @mingdingingmasochist 11 місяців тому

      Oh it will you think it’s possible for hollywood to not turn a successful film series into a dragging dead corpse?

    • @HarmonyEdge
      @HarmonyEdge 10 місяців тому +1

      So you either die like the Matrix, or live long enough to be the Fast and the Furious... 😜🤣🤣🤣

  • @fastjazz
    @fastjazz 10 місяців тому

    Why? Because that’s what the writers decided - what massive idiocy😂😂😂😂😂

  • @thetotster670
    @thetotster670 10 місяців тому

    Where is the sound?

  • @ibarracarl9413
    @ibarracarl9413 Рік тому

    😅 I like everything you wrote on the video of another field crime

  • @brianjohnson5272
    @brianjohnson5272 10 місяців тому +1

    This is incorrect, the bowery king helps John BEFORE his excommunicado.
    Im getting rather sick of these channels that dont even watch the movies, listen to a bad highlights reel, plagiarize it, and regurgitate it wholesale as of fact.
    If your gonna talk about a movie
    1. WATCH IT AT LEAST 5 TIMES

  • @destroyerarmor2846
    @destroyerarmor2846 Рік тому

    Because the Bowery King is Morpheus

  • @kassadyne3602
    @kassadyne3602 11 місяців тому

    🔥🔥🔥💯💯💯🤟🏼🤟🏼🤟🏼

  • @jayohen5918
    @jayohen5918 11 місяців тому

    Hates the high table but all he did in chapter 4 was fetch John's suit.

  • @pickettpride6980
    @pickettpride6980 Рік тому

    Subscribed

  • @Arcadecomponentscom
    @Arcadecomponentscom Рік тому +4

    Did anyone else notice Winston calling John "son" at the end?

  • @kendalldawson162
    @kendalldawson162 Рік тому

    I ended/finished it" to Winston - the long game of the *impossible task - not to enter under the table again but someone sent Tarasov's low car theft ring for the car?...John, is everyone wants to be*? Elder position or voting elders is best seat and John's to get there? #Psyopsmatrix

  • @SteveDave211
    @SteveDave211 3 місяці тому

    Hard to feel sorry for gangtsers who do bad things. Bowery king is the exception yet bad dudes angry at bigger bad dudes.

  • @sgt.grinch3299
    @sgt.grinch3299 10 місяців тому

    Ok😊

  • @someoneperson4714
    @someoneperson4714 Рік тому

    JW5? hell no. Let it die like fast and furious should have before it becomes too...comical and "Wait till its on nighttime TV" It would be a career ender and forever typecast.

  • @cornedbeef19ch
    @cornedbeef19ch Рік тому

    morpheus

  • @conservative_Redskin
    @conservative_Redskin 10 місяців тому

    Y'all can say excommunicated you know, you don't have to butcher the Latin version.

    • @HarmonyEdge
      @HarmonyEdge 10 місяців тому +1

      That's how they call it in-movie. It means they can no longer access the Continental. Usually with a bounty as a bonus.
      Tell us you never saw the movie without telling us you never saw the movie... 😅😅😅

  • @RikMorrison
    @RikMorrison Рік тому

    What might make an interesting show would be ‘The Bowery’ there are many possibilities and stories that could be done.

  • @aljonlat5004
    @aljonlat5004 Рік тому +1

    Is the Bowery king the boogeyman?

    • @kevinwyatt300
      @kevinwyatt300 Рік тому +1

      You know what your question makes a lot of sense.... Vigo said John's not the boogyman he the one you send to kill the boogyman. So they sent John to kill him, instead John spares him he respects that ....the boogyman becomes the bowery king crime boss... And helps John whenever he needs it...

  • @thunderking8925
    @thunderking8925 Рік тому

    Get to the point. You people love to hear yourself speak

  • @IstandonFaith
    @IstandonFaith Рік тому +2

    It’s just a fukin movie

    • @doge8606
      @doge8606 Рік тому +6

      doesnt mean you cant look into the characters motives

    • @brownstarslots
      @brownstarslots Рік тому +1

      It wasn't just a dog...

    • @kevinalexander8201
      @kevinalexander8201 Рік тому

      @@doge8606 I think the point is that even though you can speculate, but some things were left vague due to time/money constraints and other things due to time.
      maybe for some of these things, there is no ONE answer. So enjoy the movie, but you won't know every detail. there might not be any more depth to be found.

  • @mrjuse5470
    @mrjuse5470 Рік тому

    John Wick 4 was a steamy pile of dog sh1t.

  • @TheJgray17
    @TheJgray17 9 місяців тому

    The Bowery is a land in what is called Ireland, an African/sponge head is not allowed to control the Bowery. And John wick did not turn him into the king of the Bowery the table did since the Ayer’s would not fold…

  • @bdcdavid83
    @bdcdavid83 10 місяців тому

    Because they both went back from the Matrix

  • @hanjudgement
    @hanjudgement Рік тому

    He side with John. Cause of the matrix