There’s a fast new code editor in town

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  • @CTSSTC
    @CTSSTC 9 місяців тому +4169

    Time to upgrade my monitor to utilize that sweet 120 FPS coding 😂.

    • @Microphunktv-jb3kj
      @Microphunktv-jb3kj 9 місяців тому +68

      lmao.. human eye cant even differentiate past 72hz

    • @CTSSTC
      @CTSSTC 9 місяців тому +200

      @@Microphunktv-jb3kj but it makes my smooth brain happy 🤤 haha

    • @chihchang1139
      @chihchang1139 9 місяців тому +40

      @@Microphunktv-jb3kj it's useful for vr devices, but 120 fps is barely enough. It's also kinda stupid to have only 120fps on a code editor.

    • @thetower8553
      @thetower8553 9 місяців тому +49

      @@Microphunktv-jb3kj The human eye can't see any hope with AI around.

    • @GetPsyched6
      @GetPsyched6 9 місяців тому +164

      ​@@Microphunktv-jb3kjI'm pretty sure that's bs

  • @abdDev_
    @abdDev_ 9 місяців тому +1122

    Can't be better than MS Word

    • @EnriqueDominguezProfile
      @EnriqueDominguezProfile 9 місяців тому +69

      I see no flaws in your statement.

    • @turolretar
      @turolretar 9 місяців тому +176

      It’s the only IDE where I can control the colour and size of each letter, which means it’s objectively the best. It’s also the only editor to have integration with Excel - coincidentally the best database management system.

    • @vaisakh_km
      @vaisakh_km 9 місяців тому +26

      There is powerpoint which is far more better than MS Word.. but i am sticking with sticky notes
      edit: i stand corrected, MS word is superior to powerpoint

    • @enkvadrat_
      @enkvadrat_ 9 місяців тому

      @@turolretar nah use libreoffice

    • @svag_g
      @svag_g 9 місяців тому +21

      Notepad Clear

  • @aleksandarstevanovic5854
    @aleksandarstevanovic5854 9 місяців тому +1395

    YEEESSSSS!!! editor in 120 fps! exactly what i was missing all these years

    • @rankarat
      @rankarat 9 місяців тому +44

      Lol, people trying to make anything an advantage.

    • @GetPsyched6
      @GetPsyched6 9 місяців тому

      ​​@@Faizan29353most time coding is spent staring at the screen and then at stackoverflow. 1wpm increase is completely useless

    • @boiimcfacto2364
      @boiimcfacto2364 9 місяців тому +194

      @@Faizan29353 Bro what exactly are you coding that WPM is a factor 💀 programming is limited by your intellectual capacity to think of solutions to problems, not by the number of functions you can write in a minute lol.

    • @iWillAvert
      @iWillAvert 9 місяців тому +7

      ​@@boiimcfacto2364Sure, but take two equally intelligent developers, and the one who can type faster will be more productive.
      I will level with you though that in the real world, it may not actually make a huge difference since you're not banging out application after application.

    • @querela92
      @querela92 9 місяців тому

      ​@@boiimcfacto2364genetic algorithms ;-)
      I write functions without thinking as fast as I can and then test which of those gets me the nearest solution. Then I need to really quickly scroll through all my code and review which worked best, to start write many more functions.
      I need FPS...

  • @AegirAexx
    @AegirAexx 9 місяців тому +324

    You had me until "A Mac only editor..." and sadly then the video was over. Well played sir.

    • @genghischan69
      @genghischan69 8 місяців тому +28

      Who even does real coding on Windows? Linux yes, but windows.. only for game development, because NVidia made it so that there's no other choice there.

    • @AegirAexx
      @AegirAexx 8 місяців тому

      @@genghischan69 One of the things I do in my day job is maintaining and developing a .NET Framework application and sadly that is rather difficult to do on other than a Windows machine. Getting everything to function with Mono is just a waste of time like ricing an Arch distro with a suckless window manger.
      Real coding? Well I get paid real money writing real code so by definition I guess it's real?

    • @MinecraftMasterNo1
      @MinecraftMasterNo1 8 місяців тому +26

      @@genghischan69 You can run Linux on Windows now. No point in using only Linux unless you really just hate Windows.

    • @kyurion_
      @kyurion_ 8 місяців тому +34

      ​@genghischan69 does every job I've ever had count as "real" coding?

    • @gadgetboyplaysmc
      @gadgetboyplaysmc 8 місяців тому

      Wait really? I bought a Mac and was planning to do game dev at some point.@@genghischan69

  • @richardbennett4365
    @richardbennett4365 9 місяців тому +70

    Atom via GitHub was also acquired by Microsoft when it purchased GitHub in 2018, six years ago. And, not surprisingly, Microsoft after first stating Atom development would continue, and it did, until it was halted by Microsoft in June 2022.

    • @ismbks
      @ismbks 9 місяців тому +3

      biggest pikachu face of my life

    • @raphieexists9309
      @raphieexists9309 8 місяців тому +4

      We need to sunrise Atom.

  • @langobardo
    @langobardo 9 місяців тому +493

    The "we are here" at 1:13 Is somewhere near Fortaleza Canyon in Cambará do Sul southern Brazil for anyone wondering.

    • @bobi7310
      @bobi7310 9 місяців тому +21

      thank you was going crazy abt that

    • @Deffinnition
      @Deffinnition 9 місяців тому +8

      Indeed, I recognized it immediately after seeing it!

    • @Japan45643
      @Japan45643 9 місяців тому +5

      Brazil ❤🇧🇷

    • @berteabdel7722
      @berteabdel7722 9 місяців тому +12

      You're gonna attract all the smooth brain Brazilians trying to speak Portuguese in the comments.

    • @ShizoMoses
      @ShizoMoses 9 місяців тому +1

      Thanks, man, genuinely was.

  • @kasper369
    @kasper369 9 місяців тому +942

    Now the natural next step is to create another text editor in Zig

    • @cherubin7th
      @cherubin7th 9 місяців тому +78

      Cool a code editor that segfaults.

    • @the_null_man
      @the_null_man 9 місяців тому

      ​@@cherubin7th brother, we used to code in C and C++ for years already, and I mean you can segfault with Rust, too

    • @ShawnThuris
      @ShawnThuris 9 місяців тому +79

      Zed would have been a perfect name for it...

    • @Leo0718
      @Leo0718 9 місяців тому +147

      …and call it Rest. To keep the balance.

    • @darkenlightmage
      @darkenlightmage 9 місяців тому +63

      @@cherubin7th Yes, because every single program written in C will segfault, and it's phisically impossible for a rust program to panic and commit seppuku.

  • @musthavechannel5262
    @musthavechannel5262 9 місяців тому +506

    launches only on mac
    "Zed's dead baby"

    • @azufendusgarendum6583
      @azufendusgarendum6583 9 місяців тому +6

      It runs on Linux

    • @azufendusgarendum6583
      @azufendusgarendum6583 9 місяців тому +3

      It also works on Linux btw

    • @BigOrangeMan
      @BigOrangeMan 9 місяців тому

      ​@@azufendusgarendum6583with only 4% > desktop market share who cares

    • @freedom4651
      @freedom4651 9 місяців тому

      @@azufendusgarendum6583 It also unstable as fudge in linux!

    • @DevilShooter_
      @DevilShooter_ 9 місяців тому

      ​@@azufendusgarendum6583how to run on Linux?

  • @dilcon
    @dilcon 9 місяців тому +117

    Extensions will probably be based on wasm to allow maximum range of languages to be written in and not only rust. Remember them talking about it in some podcast

    • @Luxalpa
      @Luxalpa 9 місяців тому +2

      Sounds nice. I got really disappointed in Helix when they announced they'd use Scheme as plugin language instead of Wasm.

    • @WiecejNoxiego
      @WiecejNoxiego 9 місяців тому +1

      @@Luxalpa they have good reasons for it and if I'm not mistaken the way they design plugins allows for multiple plugin backends.

    • @themax2go
      @themax2go 9 місяців тому

      now that(!) would be a huge step forward

    • @Rudxain
      @Rudxain 9 місяців тому

      Why not LLVM IR?

  • @matakos22
    @matakos22 8 місяців тому +13

    Feels like you shouldn't have delayed the "Mac only editor" part until 3:50

    • @sherlockmaverick
      @sherlockmaverick 8 місяців тому

      Not anymore! You can compile Linux and Windows versions yourself!

  • @the_agent_z
    @the_agent_z 9 місяців тому +851

    Zed is pretty great. The performance is way faster than vscode with almost instant diagnostics. Though it lacks features such as intuitive config menus, Extensions/Plugins support, Custom themes, Etc. But it does have support for most languages out of the box.

    • @OfficialLegend
      @OfficialLegend 9 місяців тому +66

      The features it lacks it makes up in the speed

    • @codewhiz2.0
      @codewhiz2.0 9 місяців тому +3

      I have heard people talking how great Zed is I’m gonna try it out

    • @masmeert
      @masmeert 9 місяців тому +5

      It does have custom themes since a little while

    • @ColorblindMonk
      @ColorblindMonk 9 місяців тому +111

      @@OfficialLegend End of the day, though, features matter more than speed. Zed has a long road ahead before you can call it a vscode killer.

    • @samilqs
      @samilqs 9 місяців тому +58

      zed is faster precisely because it does not have any of those dependencies that you mentioned, such as the ability to add plugins or communication with github

  • @Noritoshi-r8m
    @Noritoshi-r8m 9 місяців тому +513

    It's scary how much dev ecosystem MS owns. Don't forget your backend in C#!

    • @DemPilafian
      @DemPilafian 9 місяців тому +90

      Owns? Technically that's true, but they got there unscrupulously by acquiring and eliminating. I would have *NEVER* put my many open source projects on GitHub if it was Microsoft, yet here we are. I would have *NEVER* put my professional profile on LinkedIn if it was Microsoft, yet here we are. I would have *NEVER* used a code editor from Microsoft, but they killed Atom.

    • @vectoralphaSec
      @vectoralphaSec 9 місяців тому +15

      Microsoft owns EVERYTHING. @@DemPilafian

    • @EitanGelfgat
      @EitanGelfgat 9 місяців тому +11

      They own a lot of the windows dev ecosystem, and they own windows too

    • @neonmidnight6264
      @neonmidnight6264 9 місяців тому +28

      Funnily enough, .NET tends to be a more independent part, at least the "core" of it like language itself, runtime, sdk and etc. There was an issue some time ago for some abstractions that the Azure team wanted and the runtime team basically said "you wot m8" because it had no place being in runtime.

    • @hypnocrabb
      @hypnocrabb 9 місяців тому

      @@DemPilafian Holy fuck that's eye opening. Luckily I use GitLab instead of GitHub, at least. I also use Linux for private and work computation.
      Looks like I'll be deleting Linkedin.

  • @jakethewoz
    @jakethewoz 9 місяців тому +242

    When I used Atom, it made Visual Studio seem fast. Hard to believe the same people made a fast editor

    • @vezquex
      @vezquex 9 місяців тому +33

      Atom was actually way faster at the time than anyone thought JS could be.

    • @SuperQuwertz
      @SuperQuwertz 9 місяців тому +26

      They created Electron just for Atom. Now they leveled up and created their own GPU rendered framework in Rust. Pretty cool stuff

    • @wombat7961
      @wombat7961 9 місяців тому

      Atom destroyed my macbook pro - i had to upgrade every part. Then i realized youtube was also destroying my mbp.

    • @JohnHenryLiberty23
      @JohnHenryLiberty23 8 місяців тому +5

      @jakethewoz - you're a developer and you are surprised at a team of engineers that built something found ways to do it better? lol

  • @michealkinney6205
    @michealkinney6205 4 місяці тому +3

    A lot has changed in just a few months. They now have Linux and Extension support. Pretty cool to see the progress!

  • @AlexisDessard
    @AlexisDessard 9 місяців тому +21

    This video was supposed to make me migrate to Zed but it actually made me discover Cursor and switch instantly from VSC, thanks for helping me think less and earn more in less time 👌

    • @GamingVlogBoxStudios
      @GamingVlogBoxStudios 8 місяців тому +7

      I saw Cursor once and all the AI features needed more payment and it wasn't open source (I have an unhealthy obsession with opensourced code).
      Once I find a code editor like Cursor with free AI and open source with a VSCode styled UI I'll definitely switch.

    • @tschorsch
      @tschorsch 8 місяців тому +5

      They basically took open source software and made it closed source. They should have at least had an open source base with closed pieces. I hate all of the lock-in.

    • @airampg5031
      @airampg5031 8 місяців тому +1

      yikes

  • @scben
    @scben 9 місяців тому +421

    Another one of those neat looking code editors that will soon be forgotten

    • @lasue7244
      @lasue7244 9 місяців тому +61

      Yup, unless any editor comes with most popular extensions at launch and get viral immediately. Otherwise it will die before it reaches to vscode competitor status

    • @Hector-bj3ls
      @Hector-bj3ls 9 місяців тому

      @@lasue7244 I've been using it as my main editor for a while now. It's pretty good. It's still early days, but it's already better than vscode for 99% of tasks.

    • @transatlant1c
      @transatlant1c 9 місяців тому

      Agreed, so just use sublime. It’s basically the same speed, has been around forever and does everything this one does. Just claim the license fee as a work expense or tax expense and move on

    • @randomcontrol
      @randomcontrol 9 місяців тому +19

      Atom will never be forgotten 😢

    • @Hector-bj3ls
      @Hector-bj3ls 9 місяців тому +8

      @@randomcontrol Zed is by the same people. Or so it says on their website.

  • @ransfordarthur4418
    @ransfordarthur4418 9 місяців тому +49

    been looking for a proper non-electon based Vscode contender for a while now
    loving Zed so far

    • @mayatrash
      @mayatrash 9 місяців тому

      Does it have Julia or Jupyter support?

  • @ravinlimbu
    @ravinlimbu 9 місяців тому +523

    The performance and minimal design got me hooked. Would've definitely tried it if it was on windows.

    • @azufendusgarendum6583
      @azufendusgarendum6583 9 місяців тому +21

      It runs on Linux fwiw

    • @FriskGamer1
      @FriskGamer1 9 місяців тому +54

      Windows 💀

    • @_tr11
      @_tr11 9 місяців тому +1

      ​@@azufendusgarendum6583 ?

    • @XDarkGreyX
      @XDarkGreyX 9 місяців тому +21

      Only for the rich and wannabe-rich broke folks

    • @maukku1572
      @maukku1572 9 місяців тому +49

      @@FriskGamer1 and what's wrong with that?

  • @belalmuflih5116
    @belalmuflih5116 8 місяців тому +2

    You had me on "Hi mom", sorry for your loss but am happy you haven't forgot her. still the best easter eggs out there

  • @ReflexiaVoid
    @ReflexiaVoid 9 місяців тому +39

    The fact that it's only available for mac outweighs all of its advantages.
    Hopefully, I'll remember to check it out once it becomes available for the platforms I use.

    • @assarlannerborn9342
      @assarlannerborn9342 8 місяців тому +8

      Bro saved the most important detail for last💀

    • @squeed77
      @squeed77 7 місяців тому

      you can compile it for the platforms you use

  • @VictorGamerLOL
    @VictorGamerLOL 9 місяців тому +154

    Dev tools being made for MacOS first is like building a railway network on the moon first.

    • @azufendusgarendum6583
      @azufendusgarendum6583 9 місяців тому +5

      It also runs on Linux

    • @voxelfusion9894
      @voxelfusion9894 9 місяців тому +56

      Ikr? Either target what most devs use, Linux, or what most people in general use, Windows. Apple is just neither.

    • @happymeerkat5536
      @happymeerkat5536 9 місяців тому

      @@voxelfusion9894 a lot of developers use macOS, definitely more than windows and comparable to linux

    • @xelspeth
      @xelspeth 9 місяців тому

      @@voxelfusion9894 Mac has a very large developer user base actually.
      According to a survery asking 26000 software developers acoss 187 different countries, in 2022 windows had 61% usage, linux 45% usage and mac had 46% usage (source: statista, id: 869211)

    • @BogdanSerban
      @BogdanSerban 9 місяців тому

      @@azufendusgarendum6583 no it doesn't

  • @abdDev_
    @abdDev_ 9 місяців тому +150

    Got me at the mac only part

    • @azufendusgarendum6583
      @azufendusgarendum6583 9 місяців тому +1

      It also runs on Linux

    • @zeroespero
      @zeroespero 9 місяців тому

      ​@@azufendusgarendum6583not really yet

    • @skun406
      @skun406 9 місяців тому +40

      @@azufendusgarendum6583No it does not, why are you spamming this lie in the comment secion?

    • @reillocb
      @reillocb 9 місяців тому +3

      @@skun406 Maybe it's a bot...

    • @coldestbeer
      @coldestbeer 9 місяців тому +12

      ​@@skun406 because misinformation is the only way we have to thwart AI. It is YOUR responsibility to lie & leave as much of dummy digitsl noise as possible for the sake of humanity. Glory to mankind.

  • @livedreamsg
    @livedreamsg 9 місяців тому +10

    I've been using it as my main code editor for a little over a week now. It's pretty good. Still missing some pretty critical things for me, though, like seeing what exactly I've changed (compared to the latest commit).

  • @guest1754
    @guest1754 9 місяців тому +23

    The memes per second ratio on videos like these is outstanding.

  • @FrankHale
    @FrankHale 9 місяців тому +8

    This is not the only video that meme's "VS Code Killer" but until they support Windows and Linux it definitely will never be a VS Code killer. I think a lot of people just quit looking when they hear it's Mac only. Good thing you mentioned it at the end, that was a 10x move on your part!!!

  • @rankarat
    @rankarat 9 місяців тому +13

    How often do you start up your editor? The benefits are overlooked, while the drawbacks are significant.

  • @JohnneyleeRollins
    @JohnneyleeRollins 9 місяців тому +343

    But can it run vimscript?

    • @EnriqueDominguezProfile
      @EnriqueDominguezProfile 9 місяців тому +49

      Vimscript is passé, I went full LUA this year.

    • @azufendusgarendum6583
      @azufendusgarendum6583 9 місяців тому +10

      Unfortunately nah 😔 But the Vim support is nice and keeps getting better, they're serious about it

    • @vaisakh_km
      @vaisakh_km 9 місяців тому +11

      Vimscript this best language, after which comes microsoft VBA

    • @NovaH00
      @NovaH00 9 місяців тому +1

      I forgor vimscipt existed for a sec and thought it was a new counterpart for js😂

    • @scben
      @scben 9 місяців тому +1

      But can it embed neovim?

  • @maxkinli
    @maxkinli 9 місяців тому +59

    I typed z 10 times.. it saved me 39ms of my life

  • @Indently
    @Indently 9 місяців тому +2

    I've always wanted to code at 3wpm at 120fps!

  • @f0kes32
    @f0kes32 9 місяців тому +9

    Damn, i watched the full video only to know there's no extensions and mac only. Well played, fireship!

    • @the_mellobean
      @the_mellobean 4 місяці тому +1

      It's available for Linux now

  • @landlubbber
    @landlubbber 9 місяців тому +24

    Unsurprising that none of the performance metrics compare to Vim or Neovim since any other editor would get smoked by either of them

  • @getdonek
    @getdonek 9 місяців тому +37

    They released Extension support right after you published this, ZED IDE is 🔥

    • @MrA6060
      @MrA6060 9 місяців тому +3

      text editor not IDE 🤡

    • @getdonek
      @getdonek 9 місяців тому

      Soon to be IDE
      @@MrA6060

    • @tschorsch
      @tschorsch 8 місяців тому +1

      ​@@MrA6060 They're not that much different anymore.

    • @jadizadi7600
      @jadizadi7600 7 місяців тому

      @@MrA6060
      there is no diffrence between IDE and text editor now only if you're talking about Windows Notepad as text editor

    • @snowe..
      @snowe.. 5 місяців тому

      @@jadizadi7600there most definitely is. Even the devs of VS code call it a code editor and not an IDE, because it isn’t.

  • @LAKD
    @LAKD 9 місяців тому +14

    it has the potential to be big. But there are too many bugs atm for me to actually replace my main editor

    • @andrefig822
      @andrefig822 9 місяців тому

      YES! I tried to use it, but it's annoying as hell with -- obtrusive infinite alert windows -- with "ESLINT error" and open output that does nothing and -- ESC does not close alert --, it's an inexcusable behavior for a production ready app for targeted to tech-savvy in 2024! I mean, it's fast, not laggy as VSC, some ready preset ready to go.

  • @PianoArts2th-yo3uf
    @PianoArts2th-yo3uf 2 місяці тому +1

    Zed is now available for linux too and it rly gets me. It looks really cool and it feels a whole lot more performant than VScode.

  • @vim55k
    @vim55k 9 місяців тому +2

    Zed is fast and pretty workable with typescript!
    Now I can dive in without waiting 10s or refusing in VScode.
    Our repo is large and I have to restart vscode frequently to just make it work

  • @4RILDIGITAL
    @4RILDIGITAL 9 місяців тому +67

    Interesting take on the evolution of text editors and the role of AI. Zed presents a lot of potential. However, I agree with the limitations you pointed out such as its availability only on Mac OS, and the lack of extensibility.

    • @IllllIIllllI
      @IllllIIllllI 9 місяців тому +15

      I'm 100% sure this comment was made by chatGPT

    • @ck-dl4to
      @ck-dl4to 9 місяців тому

      It gives out a reason you should buy a Mac. We don't care about that

  • @x3voo
    @x3voo 9 місяців тому +6

    if it can view very large text files and has a hex editor, im sold

    • @PaulSpades
      @PaulSpades 9 місяців тому +13

      A HEX editor? Look at this guy, demanding a real, useful, text editor feature from a text editor. Go to bed, Grandpa!
      The children want 20 icon packs for the sidebar and microsoft ads.

    • @mileusna
      @mileusna 9 місяців тому +3

      It can’t. I have treid to open 500K or 2M text files and no luck. They still got lots of work to do.

  • @dekaaizer2550
    @dekaaizer2550 9 місяців тому +99

    So when will the Helix-editor video dropping? Maybe not as loud of a fan base but a steady growing one. 28k github stars on the repo already.

    • @tears_falling
      @tears_falling 9 місяців тому +18

      +1 for helix

    • @FlanPoirot
      @FlanPoirot 9 місяців тому +10

      helix is my goto lately, have been using it non stop for the last 2 months and still haven't found a reason to go back to my fully configured nvim setup, it's just that comfy, I don't miss anything (besides DAP but that's not THAT big of a deal tbh)

    • @filiprechtorik4938
      @filiprechtorik4938 9 місяців тому +2

      +10000 for helix

    • @theycallmesloth
      @theycallmesloth 9 місяців тому +6

      Been over 8 months since I've started using it. Never looked back.

    • @ShawnThuris
      @ShawnThuris 9 місяців тому

      I was on nvim for a couple of years until I discovered Helix -- now I've installed it on all my ssh machines (even on ARM).

  • @jarrodhroberson
    @jarrodhroberson 9 місяців тому +4

    Sublime Text still does more than what i need for a text editor. For actual coding Jetbrains can not be beat.

    • @tno2007
      @tno2007 9 місяців тому

      JB and all their IDE products is just memory hogs.

    • @rhone733
      @rhone733 8 місяців тому +1

      @@tno2007 Can't argue with that assessment. When I switch to linux only development I wanted something that felt similar to VS 2008. CLion fit the bill. I'll keep using it until I get around to writing my own editor.

  • @wiintend07
    @wiintend07 9 місяців тому +1

    Been using Zed since it was a closed beta, I love how snappy it is. Full featured without the bloat, waiting for the Windows build!

  • @urlhnd
    @urlhnd 9 місяців тому +7

    3:55 Did you just sneak a Discord notification sound in there?

  • @aproxy7263
    @aproxy7263 9 місяців тому +7

    By the time its available on Linux and Windows, VS Code will already have the main features of Zed.

    • @garretmh
      @garretmh 9 місяців тому +4

      The only feature Zed has now that VS Code doesn’t is not running on Electron so I’m not so sure.

    • @MI08SK
      @MI08SK 9 місяців тому +4

      You can't make an electron app faster than a propper native one

    • @blocksource4192
      @blocksource4192 8 місяців тому

      @@MI08SK this is why svelte somehow wrote javascript code that's faster than native javascript functions. But I get what you mean

  • @joris7571
    @joris7571 9 місяців тому +10

    "Nothing lasts forever"
    Contemplate my perfect nvim setup

    • @GreyDeathVaccine
      @GreyDeathVaccine 9 місяців тому

      Emacs is still here, 47 years and still kicking ass 🙂

    • @pointyorb
      @pointyorb 29 днів тому

      Lol same

  • @quintennn
    @quintennn 9 місяців тому +2

    I've tried it and it works really well.
    It's indeed very minimal.
    One of the things I really liked was the "onboarding" you get to pick a theme, setup a few things but most importantly choose keyboard shortcuts. You can do intelliJ, vscode and other shortcuts. So you'll feel right at home using the same shortcuts.
    Missing features for me:
    Git, seeing your git changes visually, a diff, staging unstaging etc the basic like vscode had.
    Seeing your current branc name
    Stuff like git blame
    file icon (there are file icons atm but they are again super minimal an a bit too minimal for me, I want some more color so I can easily see what kind of file it is.)
    If they would add at least the above features, I will probably switch from vscode.

  • @taureon_
    @taureon_ 9 місяців тому +4

    i like how in the performance metrics, sublime text is also a very close 2nd or even first
    makes me happy about using it :^)

    • @mileusna
      @mileusna 9 місяців тому +2

      Currently Sublime is way more superior over Zed since it is stable product, but looks like Zed got some hype. Lets see what will happen.

    • @drygordspellweaver8761
      @drygordspellweaver8761 9 місяців тому +1

      I am extremely happy with Sublime text

  • @mekafinchi
    @mekafinchi 9 місяців тому +7

    notepad++ remains my main editor, I've never really needed more

  • @meltygear5955
    @meltygear5955 9 місяців тому +8

    I like how the benchmarks omit Neovim

    • @ristomatti
      @ristomatti 9 місяців тому +3

      ...and Helix.

    • @natnial1
      @natnial1 9 місяців тому

      @@silaspy-ff2neblazingly fast

    • @julienlecoq3539
      @julienlecoq3539 9 місяців тому

      @@silaspy-ff2nedoes it takes into account the startup time of your terminal? I doubt, and if it does not, it’s not really fair saying it takes 35ms

    • @radiantveggies9348
      @radiantveggies9348 9 місяців тому

      ​@@julienlecoq3539wrong

  • @eparizzi
    @eparizzi 9 місяців тому +104

    As a +15 year software engineer myself, I don't understand all this focus on speed. If your work productivity depends on a few milliseconds of difference in inserting characters into your editor, I really wouldn't want to be you. Good software devs are not measured by their code writing speed.

    • @hanniffydinn6019
      @hanniffydinn6019 9 місяців тому +5

      Are you deaf? It needs the speed for AI integration! 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

    • @MatthewLeeCode
      @MatthewLeeCode 4 місяці тому +6

      Not always about productivity. I'd argue a responsive application is nice from a developer experience point of view

    • @enigmacanine
      @enigmacanine 4 місяці тому +4

      Developer experience.

    • @Wi8had0w
      @Wi8had0w 3 місяці тому +1

      Ur and body has evolved to notice lags of even 10s of ms .. sound mapping for example .. and snappier apps always aids thought flow

    • @Quetalocatl
      @Quetalocatl 3 місяці тому +4

      Not everyone has a fast computer for coding and vs code sometimes hangs on slow machines

  • @attilao
    @attilao 9 місяців тому +1

    This video should have started by listing the supported platforms.

  • @quintencabo
    @quintencabo 9 місяців тому +2

    I hope they also have a feature where you can connect it to your own llm

  • @ir8293
    @ir8293 9 місяців тому +16

    Meanwhile the latest Sublime Text has been released today (Dev build) and it’s running circles around Zed. Feature and speed wise.

    • @Ratchetrene
      @Ratchetrene 7 місяців тому +1

      I mean how long has sublime been around? tf kinda comparison is that lmao

  • @GuidedBreathing
    @GuidedBreathing 9 місяців тому +3

    3:28 I can make a wrapper for VS Code extensions for this one. Anyone interested? I will do a push-up for every like too. I can also fix the windows / Linux version.

  • @kaan5780
    @kaan5780 9 місяців тому +621

    Zed sucks. Sorry, but editors without multi platform support by default just sucks. Late support = less unified experience. I don't think their future Linux and Windows builds will have same features and performance as macOS. Also without extensibility you cannot gain market share from your biggest competitor, VSCode. They just focused on some second order stuff but not actual features. I don't think the plugin support will be rich as VS Code unless they don't have multi platform support.
    Devs thougth their product will be popular with macOS only support. Congrats you created another "VS Code killer" that will be forgotten with in couple months.

    • @pandres95
      @pandres95 9 місяців тому +93

      Just a friendly reminder that virtually every single modern editor began working on macOS only.
      And yes! This includes your so much beloved VSCode.

    • @BGraves
      @BGraves 9 місяців тому +20

      This video is an ad. It does the same thing as Cursor

    • @Civilization1
      @Civilization1 9 місяців тому +151

      ​@@pandres95 Ahh yes the Microsoft product originally only ran on its competitors OS. Totally believable

    • @BGraves
      @BGraves 9 місяців тому

      ​@@pandres95citr your source

    • @teaser6089
      @teaser6089 9 місяців тому +36

      They basically made a Code editor with AI features but forgot about all the fucking features that made VS code as popular as it is.
      This is a problem almost all of these AI bro startups have, they check all the buzzword checkboxes but forget about the actual product...

  • @fchild
    @fchild 9 місяців тому +3

    “Not extensible” should be the first statement in this video and probably the last.

    • @livedreamsg
      @livedreamsg 9 місяців тому

      They released extensions yesterday.

  • @snarkyboojum
    @snarkyboojum 4 місяці тому

    I compiled it for my Windows 11 machine today and it works beautifully!

  • @mok6034
    @mok6034 9 місяців тому +9

    "Only for mac" sad

    • @napuzu
      @napuzu 5 місяців тому

      only for mac, yet

    • @Shiba2137-ot7ze
      @Shiba2137-ot7ze 5 місяців тому

      You can compile it yourself, it took me 10 mins on windows

    • @youtube.user.1234
      @youtube.user.1234 2 місяці тому

      Linux support has arrived btw

  • @gadget00
    @gadget00 9 місяців тому +3

    This is an “open source” editor that ONLY launched in MacOS and NOT Linux??
    The End is Near, indeed; wow

  • @soiree7833
    @soiree7833 9 місяців тому +3

    still gonna use emacs

    • @ethanknifsend9775
      @ethanknifsend9775 6 місяців тому

      I think I’m gonna check out Adobe Dreamweaver

  • @motorparadise
    @motorparadise 3 місяці тому

    2:30 That team collab in realtime was actually my idea but I never got to work on it myself, so they did it instead. 😭

  • @atmadeeparya2454
    @atmadeeparya2454 5 місяців тому

    The reference to "zed" was so apt. I just love this guy.

  • @saccobello6516
    @saccobello6516 9 місяців тому

    With that image of the canyon in southern Brazil, you made me emotional for various reasons.

  • @AseshShrestha
    @AseshShrestha 7 місяців тому

    I am in love with this IDE. It's so fast and lightweight.

  • @zstrizzel
    @zstrizzel 9 місяців тому +1

    "it's not a motorcycle baby, it's a chopper"

  • @omarsh82
    @omarsh82 9 місяців тому +1

    This is old news it was out on Mac os last year I thought you were gonna make a video about Z being released on windows or lyrics that's 4 minutes of my life I'm never getting back thank you sir.

  • @FahimAhmed-tb8wu
    @FahimAhmed-tb8wu 2 місяці тому

    It's currently on Arch (AUR) & on flatpak
    And also can be built from source on other distros

  • @michaelsills8038
    @michaelsills8038 9 місяців тому +2

    Well damn, no extensions and no linux, I was so happy for a second :(

    • @tschorsch
      @tschorsch 8 місяців тому +1

      It apparently works in Linux if you're willing to build it yourself.

  • @alidp86
    @alidp86 9 місяців тому +2

    Nice Pulp Fiction reference there 👍 0:22

  • @Serizon_
    @Serizon_ 9 місяців тому

    when fireship uploads , i feel happy , i am watching his previous videos for getting knowledge

  • @johnbrooks7350
    @johnbrooks7350 9 місяців тому

    I learned on Atom and loved teletype for working on school projects together.

  • @Pocketkid2
    @Pocketkid2 9 місяців тому +1

    My roommate loves Zed, but he uses Mac only, I use all three (Mac, Windows, and Linux) interchangeably and so I am going to continue to use VS code until Zed comes out on those platforms

  • @steve-adams
    @steve-adams 9 місяців тому

    I legitimately like Zed.
    I recently found the Arc browser and almost accidentally switched to it. After years of using Safari (mostly for energy efficiency on my laptop), jumping into Arc felt very natural. I think it took maybe an hour of test driving to feel confident making a switch. I never looked back.
    Zed was exactly the same. Everything is clean, trim, snappy, and mostly does exactly what I need without fluff. I can't wait to see where it goes. I'd like to make a full switch, but the lack of extensions is preventing it so far. We'll get there, though.

  • @Kabodanki
    @Kabodanki 9 місяців тому

    Talking about AGI and the threat of it, it the best way for them to keep attention

  • @xc6013
    @xc6013 9 місяців тому +1

    i love atom, i still use it sometimes for old times sake:)

  • @anuttamanand150
    @anuttamanand150 9 місяців тому

    I used it. Since I am working in Java, it doesn't have much support but it's lightning fast. And do use Warp terminal by same company

  • @Alexandermeister
    @Alexandermeister 5 місяців тому

    For me it was a simple progression
    Atom --> Sublime --> JetBrains --> VSCode --> Vanilla Neovim --> NVChad (still Neovim)
    I have yet to see anything in any other code editor or IDE that is a good enough reason to leave my comfy Neovim setup.

  • @maciejbratosiewicz7453
    @maciejbratosiewicz7453 9 місяців тому

    Just tried it, it's amazing 10/10. Great design and finally I don't have 10k buttons and functions I don't need nor understand like in VS code.

  • @chinmayghule8272
    @chinmayghule8272 9 місяців тому +7

    It killed my enthusiasm when he said that it's currently only available on Mac OS.

  • @williamdes
    @williamdes 9 місяців тому +1

    Well, I run it on Linux Debian 12. Support is ongoing by great devs on their free time. For now It displays and most buttons crash the interface. Each day there is less bugs.

  • @thatpersonwithamlpiconwhos2861
    @thatpersonwithamlpiconwhos2861 9 місяців тому +1

    Awesome, this IDE looks cool, ill check it out
    Mac only💀

  • @Muzzino
    @Muzzino 9 місяців тому

    It's fantastically fast but I still have to keep VScode and JetBrains on standby for specific plugins and refactoring features.
    Zed has been my primary editor for a couple weeks now and I don't want to go back to the slugs

  • @voidpointer398
    @voidpointer398 3 місяці тому +1

    Finally available for linux!!!

  • @MildManneredBarbarian
    @MildManneredBarbarian 9 місяців тому

    Tried it out today and it's neat. Copilot integration is quick and note intuitive than my lunarcim setup. Shame some basic stuff is broke, like the eslint output window bot opening when you get an error, which is on every keystroke sometimes.

  • @Drokkstar_
    @Drokkstar_ 9 місяців тому

    That outro music always kicks off a Barry White ear-worm. ("My first, my last, my everything...") - You're welcome. ;)

  • @weeb3277
    @weeb3277 9 місяців тому +2

    I need a copilot but for writing PRs

  • @mortencarlsson2719
    @mortencarlsson2719 9 місяців тому

    AI to programming, is like the co-pilot in commercial aviation. You still need the pilots there!

  • @razorree
    @razorree 9 місяців тому

    good IDEs were long time ago, Turbo Pascal, Turbo C 2.0, Borland C++ 3.1 (build with Turbo Vision), later MS Visual Studio, Eclipse etc. ...

  • @jerrygreenest
    @jerrygreenest 8 місяців тому

    I really liked Zed on macOS, now I really want it on Windows (my main machine)

  • @eduardornh
    @eduardornh 7 місяців тому

    The image of the "plateau" is from Fortaleza national park in southern Brazil.

  • @davideographer4410
    @davideographer4410 9 місяців тому +1

    You've heard of gaming at 120fps.
    Now get ready for coding at 120fps.
    Truly the gamechanger of all time.

  • @RCHFULLSTACK
    @RCHFULLSTACK 9 місяців тому

    There will probably be more price pressure on applications in the future, which means that increasingly faster ways of coding are required. When everyone can develop pro, low no-coding. So there will also be more choice for companies and users.

  • @Filaxsan
    @Filaxsan 8 місяців тому

    Keep it crazy, Jeff, keep it crazy. All the best, brother 💪

  • @eduardjsx
    @eduardjsx 9 місяців тому

    As of yesterday, 21st of February, they have officially released support for extensions.

  • @shr4pnel
    @shr4pnel 8 місяців тому

    jetbrains webstorm will forever be my special angel.

  • @boopumer
    @boopumer 9 місяців тому

    Seeing the Hi Mom made me remember, hope you are doing well @Fireship ...

  • @mkvalor
    @mkvalor 9 місяців тому

    The final image of this video is an amazing reference.

  • @12crenshaw
    @12crenshaw 9 місяців тому

    That's basically one of the first code reports where my anxiety didn't spiked because of AI and me being programmer

  • @lostsauce0
    @lostsauce0 9 місяців тому +1

    It NEEDS something like Lua for extensions. No matter what they say, Rust is too high a bar for most would be extension developers.
    Editors live and die by their extensibility.

    • @GreyDeathVaccine
      @GreyDeathVaccine 9 місяців тому

      Emacs is 47 years old. All its Lisp code can be overwritten by the user. Sure Lisp is different than Lua, but it's not that hard.

  • @DAVIDELLIOTT
    @DAVIDELLIOTT 9 місяців тому

    This review is Phil Collins' IN THE AIR TONIGHT. 3:37 is the beat drop.

  • @adyplaygameseanimes
    @adyplaygameseanimes 9 місяців тому

    I still remember a time when Sublime was dominated the market through it's simplicity, now we're restarting

  • @alpuhagame
    @alpuhagame 9 місяців тому

    I remember how everyone complained at how IntelliJ was slow and eats a lot of RAM compared to VSCode.
    Back then VSCode was new, fast & cool, even though it had quite a bit of issues.
    I even switched to it later because some plugin or the editor itself introduced editing files remotely over SSH,
    the feature which I use massively because I don't have to remote control the company's device (usually a MacBook), when I can just edit files on it from Windows PC.
    Now, the question is... would we see the history repeat itself?